"Carl Sagan's billions" <mm2terra@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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10 Simple Truths:
1. All religions and gods are 'man' made. Made and made up
by humans. Not necessarily to deceive but as a result
of (new) ideas and concepts that evolved, which were then
accepted as the (new) truth, the (new) philosophy of life,
the (new) gospel, or the (new) true religion.
not all God is man made there is one that made man.
Romans 1:
23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image
made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the
creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
2. The Christian concept and definition of a 'soul' is untenable.
Why? Evolution is a fact but nowhere in the long line of evolution
was the 'soul' (or something like the soul that makes us immortal)
suddenly inserted in a certain species at a discrete point in time.
Nothing evolved into some other thing.
every thing has it's own gene code from the brginning to now and
to the end.
And God breathed into them the breath of live and they became
living souls.
Genesis 2: 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
So Body plus breath equals soul. . .
If I assume that the soul was suddenly inserted in a living
being, e.g. 1 million years ago, we must then argue that his
or her father and mother did not have a soul. We cannot.
See above ^
This means:
All living beings have a soul or no living beings have a soul. As I
don't believe a worm has a soul, I must conclude that the concept
of a soul in each human being can only be a manmade construct.
A manmade construct because we have a need to believe that
we (or at least our 'spirit' or our 'soul') will exist forever.
We fear death, we fear being gone forever.
We want to deny death, we need to believe we are immortal.
We do not want to accept that we may be a fluke of nature.
We have a need to fabricate a reason for our existence.
3. There is no heaven and hell. All religions are manmade, and
the concepts of heaven and hell are manmade. They were created
when social groups evolved culturally: To keep individual behavior in
line and within boundaries - to be beneficial to the group or to
its leaders. Heaven was a carrot, hell was the stick.
4. The Christian dogma of sin, with human beings having free choice
to obey or disobey, is untenable, as 'sin', killing, fighting, etc.,
already existed millions of years before human beings
(mammals with increased brain size) came about.
It is that human choice that causes waring that is in the naturl human
or animals.
That means in the long line of evolution there was never a discrete
point where the 'first' human being suddenly had free choice to obey
or disobey. That also means the dogma of Christ's death at the cross
to atone for our sins is untenable. Human beings evolved and never
(suddenly) had free choice to obey or dis-obey (=sin).
Human being did not evolve only in thier thinking.
They are the same today as they were when they were created not
much more then 6,000 years ago.
The manmade Christian God sacrificed his son to atone for all
sins forever for all times. That brilliant idea arose from much older
pagan religions that had human sacrifices at their core. The ultimate
sacrifice for redemption was to offer your own son, as in the
Abraham-Isaac story. That's why Christ - the Son - was
offered by the Father and had to die for all mankind.
The Christ Died on the cross in attonement to put and end to the
guilt of sin and that is why natural humans are waring today and have
been in all history and that is why you also are typing untruths,
because you too have a choice and are making yours know loud and
half clear.
As homo sapiens evolved over millions of years, there was
never an Adam and Eve 6000 years ago. That means Eve disobeying
God and eating from the fruit never happened. That means the 'fall'
in the garden of Eden never happened. That also means a 'fall' e.g.
a million years earlier never happened. That means the philosophy
of Christ having to die for our original sin, for us disobeying God,
has
no basis in fact. Our ancestors millions of years ago did not
have the brains nor the choice to obey or disobey.
There is not evedence of eviloution over millions of year!
YOu too are only believing what others are telling you so
you are not practicing that what you preach as well.
5. The Christian concept that you can only be saved by accepting
Christ as your savior is untenable. As over 4.5 billion on earth are
not Christians and don't even know about Christ,
it is illogical to assume that God automatically condemns
4.5 billion out of 6.5 billion to hell = eternal suffering.
It is also untenable that there is any history to go back as long as
you claim.
It is all pure conjectures with no evedence to baak it up on iota.
6. All religions are manmade, which explains the huge variety of
religions. Any evolving human society develops beliefs about life and
death, which then often morph into absolute beliefs and then
into structured beliefs = religion. That's why there are so
many religions, so many spin-offs of existing religions, and why so
many new spin-offs and denominations are created all the time,
all over the world. There are always new thinkers, with new ideas.
You are right All religion is man made and that may have evolved into
what it is today but it is not Christian it is only Religion.
Christans only have faith not religion.
7. All religions and their spin-offs are manmade, and the concept of
'God' including the 'God' of Christianity, Islam and Judaism is man
made.
All Religions are manifest by the opposision to the Creator lord God
That only expexts us to have faith in His True hard rock facts of truth.
As nowhere in the material world we see physical acts/actions by
a 'God' on matter, there is no reason to assume that an 'immaterial'
God like the Christian God (who controls, guards, acts on matter
= interferes in our world) exists.
It is only unbelivers that are unable to see and understand that which
The creator Lord God is doing and is saying.
8. So we have to face the fact, with courage, and conclude that:
GOD IS ABSENT, IS DEAD OR DOES NOT EXIST.
That is only facts to the UNbelievers mind.
As I find it illogical that if an all powerful God existed, he would
decide to disappear from our material world = universe into some
other universe, or even die, i.e. disappear from all possible
universes, there is only one conclusion left:
There is no God applying material forces on or into our physical
environment. That means all physical and chemical occurrences
can be explained (sooner or later) without having to introduce a
supernatural and 'immaterial' being capable of and actively
acting on matter. Therefore the Christian God does not exist.
What man makes detiriorates as soon as he formulates it in concept
and material construction out of God made material he collected.
What God makes goes on for ever and is evident in how you can
not find the beginnig of it nor the end of it.
You can only exist if you are matter or tied to matter.
You only exist if you can act upon matter. When tied to matter, it
can
be observed, measured, etc., and thus be proven to exist.
All living thing were created from that what is created already
from conception to you present day age you must consume the
dust of the earth in all that you eat and consume, that too has
been created.
Example:
In the tsunami near Sumatra up to 100,000 innocent children
were killed in just one hour.
'God' did not do it.
'Satan' did not do it.
Humans did not do it.
The earth core is cooling, forcing huge plates to move,
which occasionally rupture or fracture into earthquakes,
volcanic eruptions, etc., which then can cause terrible
natural catastrophes such as this tsunami.
Nowhere did or does the 'hand of God' act anywhere.
HOw many were Christian believers and how many were non believers
is the better question but it really is not any of yours nor my business
that is up to only That Creator Lord God that also you can not see.
9. The mystery of matter and the most crucial question and
mystery of all
--- 'WHY WE (made of matter) EXIST' ----
It is too simple for you well educated mind to fathom.
"IT IS GODS WILL"!
does not mean we have to assume an all powerful being like the
Christian God who creates, controls, acts on matter,
and rules and monitors everything.
I may correct you also again; God is not the Christian God, but the
Creator Lord God of all creation.
Your best thinking is not even close to equal Gods foolish thinking.
In the last 1000 years more and more mysteries have been explained.
In the coming thousands of years many more mysteries will be
resolved. That means religious beliefs get pushed back more and
more, away from the current simple absolute religious 'truths'
and beliefs as described in 'holy' books. Religions consist of a
mixture of man made philosophies, myths, theories,
taboos, legends, laws, remnants of pagan religions, etc.,
explanations from hundreds of years or even much longer ago,
and are being pushed back or voided by science and much
more rational explanations.
If as you say things are being explained it is to God's credit to
give the answers to deep mysteries.
for the last 1500 years man has kept man from doing very much learning
It was all part of the conrols instituted by tyranical bestly hunmans in
Hight places that they set themselves up in to oversee their fellow humans
That also means a religion such as Christianity can only survive if
it develops a much better explanation and rationale for the mystery
of matter and life, and for our existence. However Christianity cannot
're-engineer' itself. It cannot offer a science-based explanation of
life, or even reform itself into a much more rational philosophy of
life.
There is only religion in the apostate church.
There is only Faith in Christianity.
The apostate church only imposses it tyranny on it subjects and is
pretending to be called christian but it is not christian at all it is
ANTICHRISITAN.
So it will remain an anti-scientific belief system based on fixed
explanations for life and death, made by men and women
who lived hundreds and even thousands of years ago.
so it is most obvious you have not really read the Books of the
Creator Lord go but you seem to assume much.
So the contradiction between what we learn from science
and the fixed explanations from hundreds and thousands of years
ago will grow. Christianity and other similar religions likely will
slowly disappear. The deep psychological human need for spirituality
will not disappear, but the dogmas and beliefs of religions such
as Christianity, Islam and Judaism will become less and less
acceptable to more and more people.
It is the Bible believing Christian scientist that have the truths to
guide them into much better findings of the earth and the universe.
10. The core issue is a direct conflict between:
o the religious/emotional/non-scientific approach or persona and
o the scientific/rational approach or persona
Religion was the most deturant to learning all through out the "Dark
ages" Also known as the Great Tribulation prophesied in the bible.
Spirituality will stay in various forms, but dogmatic religions based
on ancient beliefs will slowly disappear or remain with smaller
and smaller groups of the uneducated or un-enlightened
or the desperate or the frightened or the indoctrinated.
I must agree "religoin/s will become exposed for what it really
is.
"Apostisy to the Truth.
There may be long religious revivals and reactions but
on longer terms science and associated
education will (albeit slowly) void ancient belief systems.
However, religions can very well hang on for a long long time,
despite becoming more unsatisfactory to more people, e.g. if
and when there are no other enticing spiritual/social frameworks
as substitutes or replacements.
If it does you will have to eradicate the Apostisy from being in
control of all education and let the real Truths come shinning
through.
Even you bloging is fueling the Aposition to real Scientific truths
because you to are under the thumb of the apostate leaders of the
world that oppress any good truth findings by burying them in some
lab or musium some place, and the evidecnce needs to be rediscovered
right in the labs where they hid it.
This basic conflict is also why so many religions, including
Christianity and Islam, in their core are so anti-science. They can
never embrace a much more rational belief system that so clearly
exposes the fallacies in their inherited belief system.
Michael M. Terra
That is because they are all under the power of the Sataninc opposition
to that fact the if the truth got out they will become nothing
Know the truth and the truth will set you free.
M,
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