Religions > Atheism > Social Security reform is hopefully first step to total dismantlement
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"Gactimus" |
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15 Jan 2005 10:46:44 AM |
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Social Security reform is hopefully first step to total dismantlement |
Is it wise (or constitutional) for the US government to number all
youngsters and then steal their savings away for others via the so-called
"social security program?" The program would have been struck down as
unconstitutional but for the guile of one of America's worst presidents,
the socialist FDR, and a craven Supreme Court justice.
Back in 1935, the Supreme Court had a pattern of striking down FDR's
socialist scams for years. FDR was so angry that he cynically proposed a
court packing scheme to seize control of the Supreme Court. Under that
threat, Justice Owen Roberts turned his back on liberty and changed the
voting pattern of the court to submit to FDR's bidding. It was "the switch
in time that socialized nine."
As for Social Security itself, there is no "retirement trust fund" because
our so-called "contributions" are actually additional income taxes that
are deposited in the federal government's general fund, and Social
Security is nothing but a federal welfare scheme disguised as a retirement
program.
Since the federal government was never granted the constitutional
authority to force the American people to participate or contribute to a
retirement program, the only way Congress could extract the money was
through taxation.
Social Security is simply a covert way to tax the American people. Since
Social Security is a tax scheme disguised as a retirement program,
Congress can structure the rates so the federal government collects more
money in taxes than it pays out in benefits without enraging the people.
Congress can then pat itself on the back and announce to the nation that
there is a Social Security surplus for the year. This projects the
illusion that Congress is fiscally responsible and doing a wonderful job
protecting the retirement of seniors.
Social Security is one of the biggest frauds ever perpetrated, it is a
welfare scheme that steals from the neediest, and it has been a path to a
Soviet style welfare state.
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| User: "Bill" |
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| Title: Re: Social Security reform is hopefully first step to total dismantlement |
21 Jan 2005 11:37:19 AM |
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You are obviously a cruel and selfish individual that has no empathy for
others.
Social Security is one of the most successful Federal programs ever created.
It has prevented
millions of Americans from living in abject poverty in their old age.
You are correct that there is NO money in the Trust Fund, only Federal
promissory notes. The notes
incorrectly do not show up in the National Debt. This is a flaw of selfish
politicians looking for more
money to spend on frequently wasteful programs to aid in their reelection.
The flaws in the management of the Trust Fund do not justify abandoning an
excellent program.
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Bill
"natch" <jmpc@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1106246877.597237.277060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
one of America's worst presidents,
the socialist FDR, and a craven Supreme Court justice.
what a shock that you think that way
As for Social Security itself, there is no "retirement trust fund"
because
our so-called "contributions" are actually additional income taxes that
are deposited in the federal government's general fund, and Social
Security is nothing but a federal welfare scheme disguised as a
retirement
program.
uh with welfare you dont contribute first, hello!
Since the federal government was never granted the constitutional
authority to force the American people to participate or contribute to
a
retirement program, the only way Congress could extract the money was
through taxation.
you mean it comes out of our paychecks! oh my god, then who is the guy
who comes around each month
with a paper bag and asks me to put my months social security money in
there. Have I been duped!
Wait, Im looking at my check now, oh no its FICA!!!! Im double
paying.!!
Social Security is one of the biggest frauds ever perpetrated, it is a
welfare scheme that steals from the neediest
Youre an idiot, why am I bothering
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| User: "Gactimus" |
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| Title: Re: Social Security reform is hopefully first step to total dismantlement |
21 Jan 2005 11:41:20 AM |
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"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
news:j5bId.61782$w62.48193@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
You are obviously a cruel and selfish individual that has no empathy for
others.
Irrelevent. Social Security is still unconstitutional.
Social Security is one of the most successful Federal programs ever
created. It has prevented millions of Americans from living in abject
poverty in their old age.
*****. SS is only a supplement. If you only lived off your SS you would
be in poverty.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Social Security reform is hopefully first step to total dismantlement |
21 Jan 2005 09:18:00 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
"Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
You are obviously a cruel and selfish individual that has no empathy for
others.
Irrelevent. Social Security is still unconstitutional.
And you're still a kook.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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