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20 May 2006 02:42:30 PM |
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Solving the problems of atheists |
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him. it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
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| User: "Richo" |
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24 May 2006 12:38:24 AM |
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I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God.
Well we do come here looking for compnioship of sorts.
I had a quick search for God - didnt find it - and have "moved on" to
looking for truth in whatever form I can find.
I try not to limit myself to searching for false idols to worship.
<Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you.
No. Your mind-reading abilities are not as accurate as you believe.
But oyu're afraid.
Sometimes - but not of "God" though.
That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him.
Your Lord is your own business - I dont have a "Lord".
Don't feel the need for one either.
it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
School boy taunts!
I am not impressed.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
More insults - how impressive!
By the way...
What are the "problems of atheists"?
You didnt say.
Mark.
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| User: "bob young" |
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27 May 2006 08:59:03 PM |
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Richo wrote:
carolinemoran2000@yahoo.ie wrote:
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God.
Well we do come here looking for compnioship of sorts.
I had a quick search for God - didnt find it - and have "moved on" to
looking for truth in whatever form I can find.
I try not to limit myself to searching for false idols to worship.
<Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you.
No. Your mind-reading abilities are not as accurate as you believe.
But oyu're afraid.
Sometimes - but not of "God" though.
That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him.
Your Lord is your own business - I dont have a "Lord".
Don't feel the need for one either.
The ancients, our ancestors, served under Lords, these were the provincial
or national rulers and they lived in fear of them. They also sat them on
thrones and bowed down to them, as and when required
So when these early simple humans made up an alternative to worshipping
another live living human 'Lord' by inventing gods, how natural it was to
call these gods 'Lords' - they even sat their gods on thrones!
Is a university degree necessary
to grasp this simple fact?
it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
School boy taunts!
I am not impressed.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
More insults - how impressive!
By the way...
What are the "problems of atheists"?
You didnt say.
Mark.
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| User: "Richo" |
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27 May 2006 11:21:32 PM |
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bob young wrote:
Richo wrote:
carolinemoran2000@yahoo.ie wrote:
<snip>
That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him.
Your Lord is your own business - I dont have a "Lord".
Don't feel the need for one either.
The ancients, our ancestors, served under Lords, these were the provincial
or national rulers and they lived in fear of them. They also sat them on
thrones and bowed down to them, as and when required
So when these early simple humans made up an alternative to worshipping
another live living human 'Lord' by inventing gods, how natural it was to
call these gods 'Lords' - they even sat their gods on thrones!
Is a university degree necessary
to grasp this simple fact?
I rather like the idea of going to University to get a degree in "the
bleedin' obvious"
8-)
I think I could get a first class degree!
There is something deeper about this need to find a "lord" -
social/pack animals - like wolves, monkeys, apes (including you and I)
- have a kind of *inate* desire to follow the confident, powerful,
leader - the alpha male (or female!).
Of course some of us also have an inate urge to usurp the current
leader and replace them.
To be a sniveling toady (or at least loyal follower) or coup leader?
The tension between these two processes creates the social order.
For stability most people (and wolves) will be loyal followers most of
the time.
And so this structure of the "pack" becomes ingrained in our custums
beliefs and values and is reproduced in our mythologies and continues
in our imaginations up to the gods.
It is all so obvious that its almost painful that people dont "get it".
Mark.
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| User: "bob young" |
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28 May 2006 09:19:02 PM |
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Richo wrote:
bob young wrote:
Richo wrote:
carolinemoran2000@yahoo.ie wrote:
<snip>
That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him.
Your Lord is your own business - I dont have a "Lord".
Don't feel the need for one either.
The ancients, our ancestors, served under Lords, these were the provincial
or national rulers and they lived in fear of them. They also sat them on
thrones and bowed down to them, as and when required
So when these early simple humans made up an alternative to worshipping
another live living human 'Lord' by inventing gods, how natural it was to
call these gods 'Lords' - they even sat their gods on thrones!
Is a university degree necessary
to grasp this simple fact?
I rather like the idea of going to University to get a degree in "the
bleedin' obvious"
8-)
I think I could get a first class degree!
There is something deeper about this need to find a "lord" -
social/pack animals - like wolves, monkeys, apes (including you and I)
- have a kind of *inate* desire to follow the confident, powerful,
leader - the alpha male (or female!).
I absolutely agree and from this comes our clubbish needs, it is instinctive in
us, as instinctive as a mother suckling her baby.
Of course some of us also have an inate urge to usurp the current
leader and replace them.
Again yes, but we are all different, those that would like to be leaders will
do that, but there are also the Lemmings who love to be part of the lower pack
To be a sniveling toady (or at least loyal follower) or coup leader?
The tension between these two processes creates the social order.
For stability most people (and wolves) will be loyal followers most of
the time.
Well does that not mean by being a loyal follower we are safe, safe from the
danger of others who are members of a different club and safe in having a full
stomach, I think that is also part of it
And so this structure of the "pack" becomes ingrained in our custums
beliefs and values and is reproduced in our mythologies and continues
in our imaginations up to the gods.
Yes, it is obvious when studying all of the religions, they are made up from
human ingredients, many a throw back to Stone Age times
It is all so obvious that its almost painful that people dont "get it".
Yup, that is why we atheists get a little irritable at times, but nowhere as
irritable as the fundies get when their beliefs are challenged and they realise
how easy it is to do it.
Cheers
Bob
Humanist Brit.
Hong Kong
If [the skeptic] has not proved positively that religion is not true, then he
has certainly proved that it is not necessary. Men may live decently without
it and they may die courageously without it. But not, of course, all men. The
capacity for that proud imperturbability is rare in the race - maybe as rare as
the capacity for honor. For the rest there must be faith, as there must be
morals. It is their fate to live absurdly, flogged by categorical imperatives
of their own shallow imagining, and to die insanely, grasping for hands that
were not there....
[H. L. Mencken, _Treatise on the Gods_ (1930)]
Mark.
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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21 May 2006 09:16:25 AM |
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wrote:
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God.
I'm not in search of love - not here, anyway. I
am indeed in search of god, but I've been looking
ages and I can't find the fella.
Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you.
Nothing secret about it. I'd be massively pleased
to have god confirmed to me, and have said so often
and in public.
But oyu're afraid.
Nope.
That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him.
I've never been profane about "the lord".
So basically, your theory falls down on all fronts.
At least where this atheist is concerned.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie" |
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20 May 2006 03:06:45 PM |
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I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid.
Your hatred for us is showing....
That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him.
I have never been profane about your Lord, merely variously asserted,
offered evidence and conclusively proved that he doesn't exist.
it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
I have the strength to understand, choose and form my own opinions.
What about you?
Theism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
Please go away, and when you next return, bring:
a) Evidence
b) Civility
c) Respect
May the road rise with you.
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| User: "" |
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22 May 2006 06:57:07 PM |
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wrote:
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him. it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
F**k you all. And may you perish in your ignorance. Do you think
fat and touthless Buddha will save you?
Is this why you promote Buddhism over Christianity?
When The secretary of State speaks in Europe, her words have weight
as long as George Bush is not there. The point is that George Bush
has
the last words over Ms Rice. You hear about Christ but in your
ignorance AND
hatred for Christianity, you pursue the word of Buddha, a mere man.
In your ignorance, you try to put fat and toothless Buddha on equal
footing than Christ.
Do you really know what is meant to be Christ?
YOU SHALL MEET WITH YOUR FATE AND BUDDHA SHALL REJECT YOU.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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22 May 2006 07:16:49 PM |
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On 22 May 2006 16:57:07 -0700, "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
carolinemoran2000@yahoo.ie wrote:
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him. it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
F**k you all. And may you perish in your ignorance. Do you think
fat and touthless Buddha will save you?
Is this why you promote Buddhism over Christianity?
When The secretary of State speaks in Europe, her words have weight
as long as George Bush is not there. The point is that George Bush
has
the last words over Ms Rice. You hear about Christ but in your
ignorance AND
hatred for Christianity, you pursue the word of Buddha, a mere man.
In your ignorance, you try to put fat and toothless Buddha on equal
footing than Christ.
Do you really know what is meant to be Christ?
YOU SHALL MEET WITH YOUR FATE AND BUDDHA SHALL REJECT YOU.
Did I give you permission to speak, shitbag?
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| User: "Chris H. Fleming" |
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20 May 2006 05:18:37 PM |
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I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him. it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
I have nothing but love for you as a human being. But don't believe in
Santa. It's a sweet idea though. Just isn't real.
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| User: "Nick J." |
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21 May 2006 07:00:48 PM |
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I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him. it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
Penicilin?
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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21 May 2006 08:45:07 AM |
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wrote:
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him. it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
So cure us. Prove there's a god. Prove there was a Jesus. Let's go
to it. Let's you and me formally debate your "evidence", shall we?
I'm waiting right here.
Budikka
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| User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus" |
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20 May 2006 03:34:33 PM |
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wrote:
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him. it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
Thank you for sharing this. As a result of this post I have decided to
accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Saviour.
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| User: "bob young" |
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21 May 2006 12:00:02 AM |
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Santolina chamaecyparissus wrote:
carolinemoran2000@yahoo.ie wrote:
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him. it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
Thank you for sharing this. As a result of this post I have decided to
accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Saviour.
Het let me know how you get on willya?
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| User: "George" |
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20 May 2006 03:27:09 PM |
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wrote:
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him. it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
Well caroline moron you are wrong and by your barely literate post you
demonstrate the fact..
There is no such thing as a god
Life is the disease. Death is the cure.
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| User: "Bretts" |
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20 May 2006 03:30:37 PM |
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caroline if ur femail will u b willing to let me take u out to diner &
a movie some time i want 4 2 meet a women like u
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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22 May 2006 11:07:42 AM |
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"Bretts" <brettss1967@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148157037.218436.173560@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
caroline if ur femail will u b willing to let me take u out to diner &
a movie some time i want 4 2 meet a women like u
Don't forget to wear a condom, asshat. You're both probably riddled with
disease.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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20 May 2006 09:32:53 PM |
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IS THERE A GOD?
Strong Atheism's answer.
A BASIC DEFINITION OF GOD.
The general overarching definition of god as per
the major religions of the world is:
A. God is personal, God has will and consciousness.
B. God has free will.
C. God is the creator of all.
D. God is omnipotent.
E. God is omnibenevolent.
F. God is omniscient.
G. God is that which nothing more powerful
can be imagined.
These are the basic attributes that can be claimed
for the god of orthodox Judaism, Christianity,
Islam, and Hinduism.
Omnibenevolence and omniscience are actually
logically derivable from the claimed attribute of
omnipotence and so aren't not truly independent
attributes, and may be considered special aspects
of omnipotence.
There are other attributes of god, that he is the
only such god, that he is is immortal and that
god has always existed that are not important
for this discussion and for now, can be ignored.
They are secondary arguments and are for the most
part not foundational or truly necessary, except
those that can be logically derived from the
attributes listed above.
A CLASS OF GODS
It is important to note here that this is a
definition not for a particular god, but an
entire class of gods.
Sub-theories about god are not important here.
Christianity claims one may attain salvation
only through Jesus, Islam claims the Christian
dogma that Jesus was the son of god is
blasphemous.
Ideas like this though, are of little importance
to the overarching and general claims made for a
personal, creator, omni-everything god. I have
coined a term, The Grand God of Grand Theologies
for this sort of god, this sort of theological
system of expansive claims for god.
Grand theologies are those theologies that have
adopted this class of god as their basic
attributes concerning the nature of god. But it
is important to remember here that what is being
discussed here is a class of gods, not particular
gods or specific gods.
THE FOUR GREAT THEOLOGICAL TRADITIONS
Again, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism hold
to this basic Grand God and are typical Grand
Theologies holding to this basic class of god as
their basic definitions of what god is at god's
most basic level.
A big problem with this class of gods is, it
collapses rather easily into internal self-
contradiction.
THE PROBLEM OF EVIL.
The problem of evil was first written down by
Epicurus in about the third century BCE.
Today's formulation is:
A. God is defined as omnipotent;
B. and as omnibenevolent.
C. Evil exists.
D. God therefore, is not omnipotent as claimed.
E. Or God is not omnibenevolent as claimed.
F. Or god is neither omnipotent or
omnibenevolent.
G. Or god is not existant.
THE FREE WILL DEFENSE
The free will defense of the problem of evil goes
back to St. Augustine who popularized it. It is
still popular, and is championed most notably
today by Alvin Plantinga, but also by other
theologians.
God gave man free will. Man freely chooses to do
evil. Ability to do evil is less evil than
lacking free will.
THE FREE WILL DEFENSE DEBUNKED.
God has free will.
God is omnibenevolent, he has a good nature
incapable of doing evil.
A. If god can have free will, and a good nature,
this good nature is not allowed to count
against god's free will.
B. Nor is god's lack of ability to do evil
allowed to count against god's omnipotence.
C. Likewise, man could easily have a god like
free will and a god like good nature.
D. Inabilty then to do evil would no more count
against man's free will than it does for god's
free will.
E. If so, it also counts against god's free will
and god does not have free will as claimed.
F. If god does not have absolute and total free
will, thus free will is not a true necessity
at all.
F. If god is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, and
can give man a god like free will and a
god-like good nature incapable of moral evil,
god must do so or god is not moral, not
omnibenevolent.
G. Evil exists because he allows it to.
So free will does not exist, or it does and we can
have a god like free will and a god like good
nature. Either way, free will cannot explain away
the existence of evil. This free will defense
then, is a failed argument.
OMNISCIENCE VERSUS CREATORHOOD OF GOD
God is defined as creator of all in most
religions.
And god is claimed to be omniscient, all knowing.
A. God created the Universe and all in it.
B. God is omniscient, all knowing, he knows all
in the Universe and he knows the future of the
Universe and its contents.
C. If god creates a Universe, he will know that
in 13 billion years this Universe will have a
man named John Smith in it.
D. If John Smith is good and saved, or evil and
damned, God will know that.
E. As he knows that the Universe in its present
state will have a John Smith, god may then
contemplate the future state of Smith and
decide if he will tolerate an evil Smith.
F. If yes, Smith will be evil only because of a
specific personal and will choice made solely
by god.
G. If Smith is evil, then evil exists solely
because of a choice made by god. In fact all
moral evil done by creations of god will be
evil and do evil only because of personal and
willful creations of god allowing evil acts
to be done, by direct decision of god.
H. If evil exists in a world with an omniscient
creator god, it is solely and only because
god allows evil.
I. If evil exists solely because of personal
choices of god, god then is not as defined,
omnibenevolent.
J. Man and any other sentient being in such a
Universe cannot have any free will, not even
in principle. A Universe with a god that
creates all and knows all precludes free will
for all beings god creates in the strongest
possible manner.
The Grand God of Grand
Theology is thus self destroying, it is
incoherent and contradictory as a theory
and such a god is impossible.
THE SITUATION SO FAR.
1. A minimalistic class of gods is defined, this
Grand God has been defined here with as few
terms as possible.
2. The problem of evil dooms such a claimed god.
3. The attempted defense, free will is fatally
flawed. God's good nature and free will doom
claims free will makes evil necessary for man
to have free will.
4. Omniscience and creatorhood of god further
doom claims of god's omnibenevolence and
man's free will free will cannot exist for
man. All evil is the direct and knowing
creation of god contradicting claims of
omnibenevolence.
5. Since Free will for man is totally impossible,
free will cannot be a good quality, much less
necessary.
Here, the Grand God of Grand Theology has
collapsed. As has Grand Theology. As pointed out,
this destroys the claims and viability of an
entire class of possible gods, all secondary and
tertiary claims for such a god of this class also
fail, as do dogmas or secondary or tertiary
claims.
If a these Grand Gods cannot exist as defined,
specific gods cannot, nor can claims such as this
or that Grand God sent this or that revelation to
man or some prophet or did this or that.
God is thus disproven and is utter irrelevant
to anything real and existant.
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--
Asked to explain, Eichmann said, "My fellow officers
and I coined our own name for our language. We called
it amtssprache -- 'office talk.'" In office talk "you deny
responsibility for your actions. So if anybody says, 'Why
did you do it?' you say, 'I had to.' 'Why did you have to?'
'Superiors' orders. Company policy. It's the law.'"
Cheerful Charlie
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21 May 2006 06:31:55 AM |
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In article <1148154150.923534.8080@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
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I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God.
I think you're wrong. And since I have a better prespective on my
motives than you, I win.
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "johac" |
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21 May 2006 02:16:47 AM |
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In article <1148154150.923534.8080@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him.
Looky here! Somebody else trying to tell us why we're atheists.
it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
Atheism is the most macho disease.
Have fun trying to explain that to the women in the group.
But at least there is a cure.
Oh yeah? And I suppose that you have demonstrable, objective, and
verifiable evidence for you 'cure'. Or maybe you are just another silly
troll trying to get us to believe in fairy tales and magic.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "BDK" |
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| Title: Re: Solving the problems of atheists |
28 May 2006 11:36:48 AM |
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In article <1148154150.923534.8080@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
carolinemoran2000@yahoo.ie says...
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him. it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
We've already been cured, it's your mind that's infected..
So sad..
BDK
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Solving the problems of atheists |
28 May 2006 09:21:02 PM |
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BDK wrote:
In article <1148154150.923534.8080@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
carolinemoran2000@yahoo.ie says...
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him. it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
We've already been cured, it's your mind that's infected..
So sad..
BDK
If being intelligent is a problem then atheists have one !
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Solving the problems of atheists |
29 May 2006 10:47:02 AM |
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On 20 May 2006 12:42:30 -0700, wrote in
alt.atheism
I think the best way for me to do that is to kill myself.
Great idea!
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Solving the problems of atheists |
29 May 2006 06:03:02 PM |
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 08:47:02 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <eq5m72dps5vjrc5iasioa3is9u42h4nece@4ax.com>
On 20 May 2006 12:42:30 -0700, wrote in
alt.atheism
I think the best way for me to do that is to kill myself.
Great idea!
It would serve to raise the average world IQ level by several notches.
--
Michael Gray.
Founding Member and Doorman,
Earthquack's 666 Club.
EAC Rack Monitor, Chamber 5B
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Solving the problems of atheists |
31 May 2006 09:40:01 AM |
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On Tue, 30 May 2006 08:33:02 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 29 May 2006 08:47:02 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <eq5m72dps5vjrc5iasioa3is9u42h4nece@4ax.com>
On 20 May 2006 12:42:30 -0700, wrote in
alt.atheism
I think the best way for me to do that is to kill myself.
Great idea!
It would serve to raise the average world IQ level by several notches.
Except for Amerikkka.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Solving the problems of atheists |
21 May 2006 06:50:31 PM |
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On 20 May 2006 12:42:30 -0700, wrote in
alt.atheism
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you.
MMMMMMMMIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHH.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Solving the problems of atheists |
20 May 2006 07:40:34 PM |
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On 20 May 2006 12:42:30 -0700, wrote:
- Refer: <1148154150.923534.8080@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him. it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
There is a "cure" for not having contracted the Smallpox virus.
There is a "cure" for not having contracted the Human Immunodeficiency
virus.
You are proposing a "cure" for not having contracted the christianity
virus.
Dr. Mengeler lives.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Solving the problems of atheists |
20 May 2006 06:03:25 PM |
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On 20 May 2006 12:42:30 -0700, wrote:
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God.
Why would you think something so patently stupid?
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Solving the problems of atheists |
22 May 2006 11:19:23 AM |
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On Sat, 20 May 2006 19:03:25 -0400, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On 20 May 2006 12:42:30 -0700, wrote:
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God.
Why would you think something so patently stupid?
It's superstitious. Q.E.D.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "William Wingstedt" |
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21 May 2006 08:26:37 AM |
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On 20 May 2006 12:42:30 -0700, wrote:
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God.
That's three reasons. Which is the only one?
Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you.
That's not my secret wish. My secret wish is a secret.
But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him.
I'm not afraid of your silent, invisible, non-existent super-hero.
it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
What sense would it make to be weak and think "I am weak. I need to
stay weak and believe in what the majority believes in." Seems more
reasonable to think "I am weak, I need to be tougher." I see nothing
particularly tough about profanity and denigration and fail to follow
your analogy.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
I thought it was prostate cancer...
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| User: "Stephen Knight" |
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| Title: Re: Solving the problems of atheists |
20 May 2006 10:25:11 PM |
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On 20 May 2006 12:42:30 -0700, wrote:
I think the only reason most of you come here is in search of love and
of each other, and in search of God. Your secret wish is to have God
confirmed to you. But oyu're afraid. That's why there's such a
competition to be the most profame about our Lord, and to denigrate
Him. it's just like little boys trying to be the toughest, when they
all knew deep down that they're just weak.
Atheism is the most macho disease. But at least there is a cure.
I have an open mind. I'm the BAAWA Warlord. The King of all 'in
your face' atheists. So what sequence of words do you have to convince
me a god exists?
This is not anger or hate. It's a serious inquiry into the realm of
superstition. I'm like the Brass Ring. If you can convince me, you
can convince anyone on this NG.
It's a challenge. My atheism against your religious logic.
The terms are... you can't use scripture, special pleading or
magic.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
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