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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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14 Nov 2004 01:54:21 PM |
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Some 80% of pedophiles are Christian |
I see a lot of denials from a couple of Christians about this and really
there shouldn't be any surprise. In the United States the vast majority
of the populace are Christian so it should be no surprise that the vast
majority of pedophiles here are Christian.
No conspiracy. No claims that Christianity turns people into pedophiles.
No unsupportable notions not backed up with evidence. No attempts to
provide any correlations.
At the same time these coupleof Christians in denialin these newsgroups
also try to pretend that somehow pedophiles can't be Christians; as if
their life-long Christianity is some how negated when these Christians
are caught.
The insanity of such notions is profound but it leads to the obvious and
fatal flaw in their occultism: since they think Christians can do no
wrong, Christians don't "sin" -- which contradicts the classical Christanic
mythologies.
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| User: "Encyclopedia Claytonica" |
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| Title: Re: Some 80% of pedophiles are Christian |
14 Nov 2004 06:40:48 PM |
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"Fredric L. Rice" <occr42@skeptictank.orgREMOVE> wrote in message
news:10pfdroqhm3v5c1@corp.supernews.com...
I see a lot of denials from a couple of Christians about this and really
there shouldn't be any surprise. In the United States the vast majority
of the populace are Christian so it should be no surprise that the vast
majority of pedophiles here are Christian.
No conspiracy. No claims that Christianity turns people into pedophiles.
No unsupportable notions not backed up with evidence. No attempts to
provide any correlations.
At the same time these coupleof Christians in denialin these newsgroups
also try to pretend that somehow pedophiles can't be Christians; as if
their life-long Christianity is some how negated when these Christians
are caught.
The insanity of such notions is profound but it leads to the obvious and
fatal flaw in their occultism: since they think Christians can do no
wrong, Christians don't "sin" -- which contradicts the classical
Christanic
mythologies.
I would have thought it would be closer to 98%!
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| User: "Iain" |
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| Title: Re: Some 80% of pedophiles are Christian |
16 Nov 2004 04:57:57 AM |
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"Fredric L. Rice" <occr42@skeptictank.orgREMOVE> wrote in message
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<snip>
Re: subject
This is quite a cheap shot since in many places about that many people call
themselves Christian.
~Iain
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| User: "Beowulf" |
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| Title: Re: Some 80% of pedophiles are Christian |
14 Nov 2004 06:21:49 PM |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:54:21 +0000, Fredric L. Rice wrote:
I see a lot of denials from a couple of Christians about this and really
there shouldn't be any surprise. In the United States the vast majority
of the populace are Christian so it should be no surprise that the vast
majority of pedophiles here are Christian.
No surprise. Atheists like me do not need to resort to being a pedophile--
we see no 'sin' (a moot term to me) in enjoying love, premarital sex, etc.
and get all we need with consenting adults. Some Christians on the other
hand are so stiffled sexually, so messed up psychosexually because of the
damage that religion does to their sexuality, that they resort to aberrant
sexual practices like pedophilia.
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| User: "Ike" |
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| Title: Re: Some 80% of pedophiles are Christian |
14 Nov 2004 08:21:41 PM |
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"Beowulf" <beowulf@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.11.15.00.21.47.716606@nowhere.net...
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:54:21 +0000, Fredric L. Rice wrote:
I see a lot of denials from a couple of Christians about this and really
there shouldn't be any surprise. In the United States the vast majority
of the populace are Christian so it should be no surprise that the vast
majority of pedophiles here are Christian.
No surprise. Atheists like me do not need to resort to being a pedophile--
we see no 'sin' (a moot term to me) in enjoying love, premarital sex, etc.
and get all we need with consenting adults. Some Christians on the other
hand are so stiffled sexually, so messed up psychosexually because of the
damage that religion does to their sexuality, that they resort to aberrant
sexual practices like pedophilia.
Pedophilia is believed to be caused by psychological physical and sexual
abuse to children who then act out the abuse on others when they begin to
get old enough to fell sexual desire. As adults they may seek out situations
where they have unobserved access to children. Religion can't help them
because their sexual impulses are too strong to control. In fact, religion
makes probably makes it worse, by filling their minds with stressful junk
they don't understand. If 80% of them are Christian it is because 80% or
more of the population is. I don't think that 80% of them in on-Christian
countries are Christian. I don't know where the figure comes fom since I
have killfiled the idiot Frederic. L. Rice and can't read the article he
posted, although if his past posts are any indication, there is not likely
to be useful information in it.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Some 80% of pedophiles are Christian |
15 Nov 2004 05:19:14 AM |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:21:49 -0600, Beowulf <beowulf@nowhere.net> wrote:
No surprise. Atheists like me do not need to resort to being a pedophile--
we see no 'sin' (a moot term to me) in enjoying love, premarital sex, etc.
and get all we need with consenting adults. Some Christians on the other
hand are so stiffled sexually, so messed up psychosexually because of the
damage that religion does to their sexuality, that they resort to aberrant
sexual practices like pedophilia.
Actually the biggest violator and abuser of children is the step father.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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| Title: Re: Some 80% of pedophiles are Christian |
15 Nov 2004 09:49:13 AM |
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On Mon 15 Nov 2004 05:19:14a, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> kicked back
with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a joint,
then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:21:49 -0600, Beowulf <beowulf@nowhere.net>
wrote:
No surprise. Atheists like me do not need to resort to being a
pedophile-- we see no 'sin' (a moot term to me) in enjoying love,
premarital sex, etc. and get all we need with consenting adults. Some
Christians on the other hand are so stiffled sexually, so messed up
psychosexually because of the damage that religion does to their
sexuality, that they resort to aberrant sexual practices like
pedophilia.
Actually the biggest violator and abuser of children is the step
father.
That's no surprise, either. Since most (though by no means all)
pedophiles do not abuse blood relatives, the father is unlikely to be a
culprit. However, a stepfather is not a blood relative, and has
unlimited and unmonitored access to the child. This being the case,
many pedophiles will seek out women with children specifically because
they are attracted to the children. I would guess that a pedophile who
find himself with stepchildren to abuse will almost invariably end up
abusing them.
This doesn't mean, of course, that stepfathers are likely to be abusers
-- just that abusers are likely to be stepfathers, which is not at all
the same thing.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "Tony" |
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| Title: Re: Some 80% of pedophiles are Christian |
15 Nov 2004 10:25:50 AM |
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"Mekkala" <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95A265759F190Mekkala@199.45.49.11...
On Mon 15 Nov 2004 05:19:14a, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> kicked back
with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a joint,
then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:21:49 -0600, Beowulf <beowulf@nowhere.net>
wrote:
No surprise. Atheists like me do not need to resort to being a
pedophile-- we see no 'sin' (a moot term to me) in enjoying love,
premarital sex, etc. and get all we need with consenting adults. Some
Christians on the other hand are so stiffled sexually, so messed up
psychosexually because of the damage that religion does to their
sexuality, that they resort to aberrant sexual practices like
pedophilia.
Actually the biggest violator and abuser of children is the step
father.
That's no surprise, either. Since most (though by no means all)
pedophiles do not abuse blood relatives, the father is unlikely to be a
culprit.
"snip"
Actually blood relatives are the most likely individuals to abuse children
sexually.
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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| Title: Re: Some 80% of pedophiles are Christian |
15 Nov 2004 11:09:25 AM |
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On Mon 15 Nov 2004 10:25:50a, "Tony" <tonykonrath@earthlink.net> kicked
back with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
"Mekkala" <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95A265759F190Mekkala@199.45.49.11...
On Mon 15 Nov 2004 05:19:14a, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> kicked back
with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:21:49 -0600, Beowulf <beowulf@nowhere.net>
wrote:
No surprise. Atheists like me do not need to resort to being a
pedophile-- we see no 'sin' (a moot term to me) in enjoying love,
premarital sex, etc. and get all we need with consenting adults.
Some Christians on the other hand are so stiffled sexually, so
messed up psychosexually because of the damage that religion does to
their sexuality, that they resort to aberrant sexual practices like
pedophilia.
Actually the biggest violator and abuser of children is the step
father.
That's no surprise, either. Since most (though by no means all)
pedophiles do not abuse blood relatives, the father is unlikely to be
a culprit.
"snip"
Actually blood relatives are the most likely individuals to abuse
children sexually.
Are you sure? As I recall it, pedophiles normally target close friends
rather than close relatives. Maybe I'm misremembering what I learned in
class, though.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "The Sophist" |
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| Title: Re: Some 80% of pedophiles are Christian |
15 Nov 2004 02:20:59 PM |
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Mekkala wrote:
On Mon 15 Nov 2004 10:25:50a, "Tony" <tonykonrath@earthlink.net> kicked
back with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
"Mekkala" <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95A265759F190Mekkala@199.45.49.11...
On Mon 15 Nov 2004 05:19:14a, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> kicked back
with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:21:49 -0600, Beowulf <beowulf@nowhere.net>
wrote:
No surprise. Atheists like me do not need to resort to being a
pedophile-- we see no 'sin' (a moot term to me) in enjoying love,
premarital sex, etc. and get all we need with consenting adults.
Some Christians on the other hand are so stiffled sexually, so
messed up psychosexually because of the damage that religion does to
their sexuality, that they resort to aberrant sexual practices like
pedophilia.
Actually the biggest violator and abuser of children is the step
father.
That's no surprise, either. Since most (though by no means all)
pedophiles do not abuse blood relatives, the father is unlikely to be
a culprit.
"snip"
Actually blood relatives are the most likely individuals to abuse
children sexually.
Are you sure? As I recall it, pedophiles normally target close friends
rather than close relatives. Maybe I'm misremembering what I learned in
class, though.
I suspect the source of the confusion is that blood relatives are
obviously the most likely to abuse children generally (since they have
access), and there's been a tendency in recent years to be sloppy about
distinguishing between cases of child abuse with or without a sexual
component.
--
Aaron Boyden
The main division between the so-called Continental and Analytic
traditions has been disputes over whether the task of being unclear
should be carried out in natural language or in a formal system.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Some 80% of pedophiles are Christian |
15 Nov 2004 05:22:02 PM |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:49:13 GMT, Mekkala <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote:
On Mon 15 Nov 2004 05:19:14a, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> kicked back
with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a joint,
then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:21:49 -0600, Beowulf <beowulf@nowhere.net>
wrote:
No surprise. Atheists like me do not need to resort to being a
pedophile-- we see no 'sin' (a moot term to me) in enjoying love,
premarital sex, etc. and get all we need with consenting adults. Some
Christians on the other hand are so stiffled sexually, so messed up
psychosexually because of the damage that religion does to their
sexuality, that they resort to aberrant sexual practices like
pedophilia.
Actually the biggest violator and abuser of children is the step
father.
That's no surprise, either. Since most (though by no means all)
pedophiles do not abuse blood relatives, the father is unlikely to be a
culprit. However, a stepfather is not a blood relative, and has
unlimited and unmonitored access to the child. This being the case,
many pedophiles will seek out women with children specifically because
they are attracted to the children. I would guess that a pedophile who
find himself with stepchildren to abuse will almost invariably end up
abusing them.
This doesn't mean, of course, that stepfathers are likely to be abusers
-- just that abusers are likely to be stepfathers, which is not at all
the same thing.
And Priests are not likely to be abusers of children. A very small few have been caught.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "The Last Liberal" |
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14 Nov 2004 08:49:24 PM |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:54:21 GMT, occr42@skeptictank.orgREMOVE
(Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
I see a lot of denials from a couple of Christians about this and really
there shouldn't be any surprise. In the United States the vast majority
of the populace are Christian so it should be no surprise that the vast
majority of pedophiles here are Christian.
No conspiracy. No claims that Christianity turns people into pedophiles.
No unsupportable notions not backed up with evidence. No attempts to
provide any correlations.
At the same time these coupleof Christians in denial in these newsgroups
also try to pretend that somehow pedophiles can't be Christians; as if
their life-long Christianity is some how negated when these Christians
are caught.
The insanity of such notions is profound but it leads to the obvious and
fatal flaw in their occultism: since they think Christians can do no
wrong, Christians don't "sin" -- which contradicts the classical Christanic
mythologies.
There might be a correlation (if not causation) between Fundamentalism
and child abuse. The issue is, what comes first--- the predisposition
to Fundamentalism, or the predisposition to criminal, abusive, demonic
behavior? Or is it the same mental mechanism?
--
"Terrorism" isn't the enemy: George W Bush is!
http://lastliberal.org
Voting Republican makes baby Jesus cry!
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| User: "jack_the_mormon" |
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| Title: Re: Some 80% of pedophiles are Christian |
15 Nov 2004 09:09:06 PM |
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(The Last Liberal) wrote in message news:<2vqns9F2l20fiU1@uni-berlin.de>...
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:54:21 GMT, occr42@skeptictank.orgREMOVE
(Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
I see a lot of denials from a couple of Christians about this and really
there shouldn't be any surprise. In the United States the vast majority
of the populace are Christian so it should be no surprise that the vast
majority of pedophiles here are Christian.
No conspiracy. No claims that Christianity turns people into pedophiles.
No unsupportable notions not backed up with evidence. No attempts to
provide any correlations.
At the same time these coupleof Christians in denial in these newsgroups
also try to pretend that somehow pedophiles can't be Christians; as if
their life-long Christianity is some how negated when these Christians
are caught.
The insanity of such notions is profound but it leads to the obvious and
fatal flaw in their occultism: since they think Christians can do no
wrong, Christians don't "sin" -- which contradicts the classical Christanic
mythologies.
There might be a correlation (if not causation) between Fundamentalism
and child abuse. The issue is, what comes first--- the predisposition
to Fundamentalism, or the predisposition to criminal, abusive, demonic
behavior? Or is it the same mental mechanism?
I don't think it's the religion itself as much as it's the sexual
repression. Look at Catholic priests - life long abstinence is the
most sure-fire way to send you down pedophile lane.
However, as for criminal and abusive behaviors - I'm afraid those are
equally shared by theists and atheists alike. With the exception of
Satan worshiping. Those who explicity acknowledge that they worship a
mythological "satan" tend towards criminality and anti-social
behaviors.
http://www.geocities.com/uaarroma/blissett/lanning.html
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Some 80% of pedophiles are Christian |
15 Nov 2004 05:17:15 AM |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:54:21 GMT, occr42@skeptictank.orgREMOVE (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
The insanity of such notions is profound but it leads to the obvious and
fatal flaw in their occultism: since they think Christians can do no
wrong, Christians don't "sin" -- which contradicts the classical Christanic
mythologies.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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