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29 Mar 2006 12:18:06 AM |
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Some Gay Couples Adopt to Molest, State Rep Says |
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact, in addition to
e-mail correspondence with a master's student at Vanderbilt publicized
recently, in which she said as much, she has also said homosexual couples
may molest the children they adopt.
"We also have seen evidence that homosexual couples prey on young males and
have, in some instances, adopted them in order to have unfretted access to
subject them to a life of molestation and sexual abuse," she said.
"In all cases to paint with a broad brush strokes is unfortunate," said
adoptive parent Dr. Christopher Harris.
Harris is a pediatrician by day and a single gay adoptive parent by night.
"She brings such joy into my life," he said. "It's always said pediatrician
doesn't finished his training till he or she has a kid."
Harris fits every requirement for the state's definition of a good adoptive
parent: loving, healthy and financially stable. He is also gay, and for
Maggert, that means he's unqualified.
"I have strong convictions. I just feel kids in our foster have been through
enough. They need the optimum family unit, and that is a mother and a
father," she said.
In the e-mail with the Vanderbilt student, Maggart said research shows most
homosexual couples have numerous emotional dysfunctions and psychological
issues that may not be healthy for children.
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" The truth shall set you free "
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29 Mar 2006 09:55:45 AM |
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Girl describes rapes during stepfather's trial
By Erin Rickert The Daily Reflector
Tuesday, March 28, 2006
A 12-year-old testified Monday her stepfather threatened to kill her if
she ever spoke about the times he raped her.
Ronnie Whitehurst issued the terrible ultimatum several times throughout
her childhood after he finished an assault, she said.
"He threatened to kill me if I told anybody," the girl said from the
witness stand during the trial of 52-year-old Ronnie Whitehurst in Pitt
County Superior Court.
The girl described three instances in the summer of 2005 where Whitehurst
forced her to perform oral sex and engage in intercourse in an abandoned
van and at their home.
During nearly three hours of testimony, she also said Whitehurst raped her
an estimated 30 times beginning at the age of 5 or 6.
The girl testified she finally told her mother after her brother saw her
through a window at their home in late June 2005 performing oral sex with
Whitehurst.
Whitehurst maintains the girl and her family fabricated the allegations to
force him from their home.
The Greenville man is charged with three counts first-degree child rape,
three counts sex offense with a child and three counts indecent liberties
with a child.
He has been held under a $1.5 million secured bond at the Pitt County
Detention Center since his arrest last year.
His public defender, Bert Kemp, said in an opening statement on Monday
that the discipline Whitehurst enforced at the home motivated the family,
in part, to lie about him.
Kemp said later testimony also will show how the young girl's mother was
having an affair with another man, whom she is living with now.
Testimony from the girl's 14-year-old brother is expected to resume today.
During approximately 30 minutes on the stand Monday, the boy corroborated
his sister's story, alleging Whitehurst molested his sister on or about
June 29.
The boy testified he pushed on the front door, but was unable to get into
the family's mobile home.
He went around and stood on the tongue of the trailer after a few minutes,
he said, peering through a kitchen window.
Whitehurst was sitting in a chair in front of the door as his sister
performed oral sex, he said.
The boy testified he confronted his sister later in the evening.
Both children said on the stand they called their mother at work a few
days later to tell her what happened.
Testimony from a physician assistant at the Teddy Bear Child Advocacy
Center, a facility catering to abused children, suggested the girl may
have been abused sexually.
Maria-Angelica Taylor said behavior noted by the girl's mother and
physical signs she saw during a July 21 exam led her to the conclusion.
Taylor could not estimate when the abuse occurred.
Prosecutor Lee Teague also called a woman who Whitehurst was convicted of
abusing in 1988.
The woman, puffy eyed and sniffling, now a 32-year-old mother of three,
described similar encounters with Whitehurst when he was her stepfather.
The abuse started when she was 7 or 8 and continued until she was 14, she said.
During cross-examination, Kemp revealed the woman has talked with
Whitehurst on several occasions since she was a teenager.
The woman admitted she had brought her children over to his home and
played cards with Whitehurst.
The prosecution pointed out that Whitehurst is the biological father of
the woman's sister.
Fifteen prospective jurors were dismissed Monday morning before a
12-member panel comprised of seven women and five men was chosen.
The majority of the jurors have children.
The panel includes a machine operator for the Department of
Transportation, a retired pharmacist, a small business owner, a homemaker,
a child-care worker, a Greenville Utilities lineman, health care workers
and advertising representatives.
Erin Rickert can be contacted at and 329-9566.
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Jesus is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay
http://Ninure-Saunders.tk
My Yahoo Group
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http://www.MCCchurch.org
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http://www.thebiblesite.org
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29 Mar 2006 12:48:48 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact, in addition to
e-mail correspondence with a master's student at Vanderbilt publicized
recently, in which she said as much, she has also said homosexual couples
may molest the children they adopt.
Is Maggart just an idiot or is she some sort of neo-nazi who kind of
heard that it is no longer cool to target Jews and who desparately
needs a replacement? Or are we seeing a contest between Debra Maggart
and J Young as to who can be the daftest?
Of course, you can say the same thing about straight couples that this
wingnut said about gay couples. If you are really worried, however,
why don't we ban adoptions by straight couples and give the girls to
gay couples and the boys to lesbian couples. That should pretty much
eliminate even the illusion of any impropriety.
By all means do not give any kids to neocons. They are emotionally
disturbed according to some recent research. :-)
<http://prorev.com/2006/03/whiny-insecure-kids-grow-up-to-vote.htm>
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| User: "L. Michael Roberts" |
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29 Mar 2006 08:19:27 PM |
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No One wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact, in addition to
e-mail correspondence with a master's student at Vanderbilt publicized
recently, in which she said as much, she has also said homosexual couples
may molest the children they adopt.
Is Maggart just an idiot
Excuse me... I think you misspelled Maggot!
<snip>
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+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
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| User: "Bitchin Bonney" |
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31 Mar 2006 09:17:01 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:19:27 -0500, "L. Michael Roberts"
<L_Michael_Roberts@nospam.com> wrote:
No One wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact, in addition to
e-mail correspondence with a master's student at Vanderbilt publicized
recently, in which she said as much, she has also said homosexual couples
may molest the children they adopt.
Is Maggart just an idiot
Excuse me... I think you misspelled Maggot!
Brings to mind my thoughts on replies to post made by "L. Michael
Roberts"; Much like feeding maggots to a lizard.
Keep on squirming bulb changer <SNIGGER>
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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29 Mar 2006 01:37:04 AM |
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No One wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes
homosexual couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact,
in addition to e-mail correspondence with a master's student at
Vanderbilt publicized recently, in which she said as much, she has
also said homosexual couples may molest the children they adopt.
Is Maggart just an idiot or is she some sort of neo-nazi who kind of
heard that it is no longer cool to target Jews and who desparately
needs a replacement? Or are we seeing a contest between Debra Maggart
and J Young as to who can be the daftest?
Of course, you can say the same thing about straight couples that this
wingnut said about gay couples. If you are really worried, however,
why don't we ban adoptions by straight couples and give the girls to
gay couples and the boys to lesbian couples. That should pretty much
eliminate even the illusion of any impropriety.
Anybody who has worked in any rape crisis center can tell you about
step-fathers.
They are probably the most dangerous group when it comes to molesting
children
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| User: "No One" |
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29 Mar 2006 08:55:11 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> writes:
No One wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes
homosexual couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact,
in addition to e-mail correspondence with a master's student at
Vanderbilt publicized recently, in which she said as much, she has
also said homosexual couples may molest the children they adopt.
Is Maggart just an idiot or is she some sort of neo-nazi who kind of
heard that it is no longer cool to target Jews and who desparately
needs a replacement? Or are we seeing a contest between Debra Maggart
and J Young as to who can be the daftest?
Of course, you can say the same thing about straight couples that this
wingnut said about gay couples. If you are really worried, however,
why don't we ban adoptions by straight couples and give the girls to
gay couples and the boys to lesbian couples. That should pretty much
eliminate even the illusion of any impropriety.
Anybody who has worked in any rape crisis center can tell you about
step-fathers. They are probably the most dangerous group when it
comes to molesting children
Step-fathers, typical some guy a woman marries, have nothing to do
with allowing childless homosexual couples to adopt children . But in
any event, what you describe is predominantly a straight problem.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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30 Mar 2006 02:46:39 AM |
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No One wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> writes:
No One wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes
homosexual couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In
fact, in addition to e-mail correspondence with a master's student
at Vanderbilt publicized recently, in which she said as much, she
has also said homosexual couples may molest the children they
adopt.
Is Maggart just an idiot or is she some sort of neo-nazi who kind of
heard that it is no longer cool to target Jews and who desparately
needs a replacement? Or are we seeing a contest between Debra
Maggart and J Young as to who can be the daftest?
Of course, you can say the same thing about straight couples that
this wingnut said about gay couples. If you are really worried,
however, why don't we ban adoptions by straight couples and give
the girls to gay couples and the boys to lesbian couples. That
should pretty much eliminate even the illusion of any impropriety.
Anybody who has worked in any rape crisis center can tell you about
step-fathers. They are probably the most dangerous group when it
comes to molesting children
Step-fathers, typical some guy a woman marries, have nothing to do
with allowing childless homosexual couples to adopt children . But in
any event, what you describe is predominantly a straight problem.
Figured that out all by yourself did you?
What is a step-father if the situation is not typical?
You do realize that we are saying the danger of a child being molested seems
far greater in heterosexual marriages?
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| User: "No One" |
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30 Mar 2006 08:25:06 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> writes:
No One wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> writes:
No One wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Anybody who has worked in any rape crisis center can tell you about
step-fathers. They are probably the most dangerous group when it
comes to molesting children
Step-fathers, typical some guy a woman marries, have nothing to do
with allowing childless homosexual couples to adopt children . But in
any event, what you describe is predominantly a straight problem.
Figured that out all by yourself did you?
Apparently you couldn't, which is why I had to explain the obvious to
you. :-)
What is a step-father if the situation is not typical?
Well, in Massachusetts and in some other countries, if a male natural
parent has custody of a child and then marries another guy the second
guy is a step father.
You do realize that we are saying the danger of a child being molested seems
far greater in heterosexual marriages?
The best data we have to date shows that straight individuals are more
likely to be child molesters than gays - so one would expect that the
risk is far higher for the children of opposite-sex couples. Some
others have posted the data many times, so check the archives for
details. Otherwise, see a U.C. Davis web site
<http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html>
which points out the following:
For the present discussion, the important point is that many
child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as
homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals because they are not
really capable of a relationship with an adult man or
woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based
primarily on age. These individuals %G–%@ who are
often characterized as fixated %G–%@ are attracted
to children, not to men or women.
Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum
(1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in
Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the
men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83
(47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were
classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22
(13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the
last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their adult
relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well
as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men
exceed their preference for women....There were no men who
were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..."
(p.180).
The URL defines regresssed molesters as follows:
Regression is "a temporary or permanent appearance of
primitive behavior after more mature forms of expression had
been attained, regardless of whether the immature behavior was
actually manifested earlier in the individual's development"
(Groth & Birnbaum, 1978, p. 177). Regressed offenders have
developed an adult sexual orientation but under certain
conditions (such as extreme stress) they return to an earlier,
less mature psychological state and engage in sexual contact
with children.
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| User: "Jude Jude_Alexander@the bayou.la" |
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29 Mar 2006 08:22:51 AM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:AOqWf.6649$4L1.6005@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
No One wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes
homosexual couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact,
in addition to e-mail correspondence with a master's student at
Vanderbilt publicized recently, in which she said as much, she has
also said homosexual couples may molest the children they adopt.
Is Maggart just an idiot or is she some sort of neo-nazi who kind of
heard that it is no longer cool to target Jews and who desparately
needs a replacement? Or are we seeing a contest between Debra Maggart
and J Young as to who can be the daftest?
Of course, you can say the same thing about straight couples that this
wingnut said about gay couples. If you are really worried, however,
why don't we ban adoptions by straight couples and give the girls to
gay couples and the boys to lesbian couples. That should pretty much
eliminate even the illusion of any impropriety.
Anybody who has worked in any rape crisis center can tell you about
step-fathers.
They are probably the most dangerous group when it comes to molesting
children
THAT is a legitmate statement. Unfortunately, this also includes birth
fathers. Heterosexual men are the main and greatest number of molesters, a
fact CONSTANTLY ignored by homophobes, and anybody that has any sympathy
toward the despised minority of gay people can figure out why quite quickly.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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29 Mar 2006 03:00:16 PM |
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Jude wrote:
Anybody who has worked in any rape crisis center can tell you about
step-fathers.
They are probably the most dangerous group when it comes to molesting
children
THAT is a legitmate statement. Unfortunately, this also includes birth
fathers. Heterosexual men are the main and greatest number of
molesters, a fact CONSTANTLY ignored by homophobes, and anybody that
has any sympathy toward the despised minority of gay people can
figure out why quite quickly.
Birth fathers are certainly not exempt but step-fathers seem to be offenders
far more often.
Perhaps it's just that the idea of incest adds a layer that some will not
cross that makes the difference.
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| User: "Jude Jude_Alexander@the bayou.la" |
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30 Mar 2006 10:16:25 AM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:AzCWf.61542$Jd.25603@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
Jude wrote:
Anybody who has worked in any rape crisis center can tell you about
step-fathers.
They are probably the most dangerous group when it comes to molesting
children
THAT is a legitmate statement. Unfortunately, this also includes birth
fathers. Heterosexual men are the main and greatest number of
molesters, a fact CONSTANTLY ignored by homophobes, and anybody that
has any sympathy toward the despised minority of gay people can
figure out why quite quickly.
Birth fathers are certainly not exempt but step-fathers seem to be
offenders far more often.
Perhaps it's just that the idea of incest adds a layer that some will not
cross that makes the difference.
In 1992 and 1993, women were the victims of 500,200 rapes and/or sexual
assaults. Of these, 34 percent were completed rapes, 28 percent attempted
rapes, 28 percent sexual assault with serious injury, 5 percent sexual
assault with minor injury, and 15 percent other sexual assaults (Bachman and
Saltzman, 1995).
Every minute in the United States, 1.3 adult women are raped; 78 women are
raped every hour; 1,871 women are raped every day; 56,916 women are raped
every month; 683,000 women are raped every year. (Crime Victims Research and
Treatment Center of the National Victim Center, 1992).
The rate of sexual assault in the United States is the highest of any
industrialized nation in the world (Reiso and Roth, 1993).
Twenty percent of adult women, 15 percent of college women, and 12 percent
of adolescent girls have experienced sexual abuse and assault during their
lives (Koss, 1988).
Compared to all other age groups, women age 19 to 29 reported more violence
by their partners. Women age 12 to 18 were more likely than women older than
18 to report violence against them by friends or acquaintances. In general,
women age 65 or older were the least likely to report an act of violence
(Bachman and Saltzman, 1995).
Twenty-nine percent of all rapes occur when the victim is less than 11 years
old and 32 percent of rapes occur when the victim is between the ages of 11
and 17 (Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center of the National Victim
Center, 1992).
Twenty-nine percent of all rapes occur when the victim is less than 11 years
old and 32 percent of rapes occur when the victim is between the ages of 11
and 17 (Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center of the National Victim
Center, 1992).
Women between the ages of 16 and 24 were three times more likely to be raped
than women in other age cohorts (Harlow, 1991).
78 percent of rapes involve a person the victim knew -- husbands/ex-
husbands (9 percent), fathers/step-fathers (11 percent), boyfriends/ex-
boyfriends (10 percent), other relatives/friends/neighbors (29) percent)
(National Victim Center, 1992).
82 percent of women raped or sexually assaulted in 1992-1993 by a lone
offender were victimized by a spouse, ex-spouse, partner, friend,
acquaintance or relative (Bachman and Saltzman, 1995).
One in six American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed
rape, and 10% of sexual assault victims are men. (Rainn.org.)
Almost half of all rape is non reported to authorities.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm
http://www.rainn.org/docs/statistics/ncvs2004.pdf?PHPSESSID=545772b8d849fbfa91f653c5f484ab84
http://www.csom.org/pubs/mythsfacts.html
Last, but not least, about the children specifically (realize that these are
just statistics from REPORTED incidences)
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/saycrle.pdf
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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30 Mar 2006 01:19:39 PM |
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Jude wrote:
<snip>
Almost half of all rape is non reported to authorities.
If by authorities, you mean law enforcement, it is almost certainly much
higher than that.
We also know from a large percentage of women that have been raped on the
local collage campus that the college leo's actively discourage such
reporting and this seems to be common across the USA. The collage or
university does not want parents to get the idea that their daughter might
be in danger on their campus.
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| User: "Jude Jude_Alexander@the bayou.la" |
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30 Mar 2006 05:35:02 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Jude wrote:
<snip>
Almost half of all rape is non reported to authorities.
If by authorities, you mean law enforcement, it is almost certainly much
higher than that.
That was a quote from one of the links I provided.
We also know from a large percentage of women that have been raped on the
local collage campus that the college leo's actively discourage such
reporting and this seems to be common across the USA. The collage or
university does not want parents to get the idea that their daughter might
be in danger on their campus.
I've heard a number of time about college campus cover ups and do nothings.
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02 Apr 2006 11:31:15 AM |
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:16:25 -0600, "Jude" <Jude_Alexander@the bayou.la>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:AzCWf.61542$Jd.25603@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
Jude wrote:
Anybody who has worked in any rape crisis center can tell you about
step-fathers.
They are probably the most dangerous group when it comes to molesting
children
THAT is a legitmate statement. Unfortunately, this also includes birth
fathers. Heterosexual men are the main and greatest number of
molesters, a fact CONSTANTLY ignored by homophobes, and anybody that
has any sympathy toward the despised minority of gay people can
figure out why quite quickly.
Birth fathers are certainly not exempt but step-fathers seem to be
offenders far more often.
Perhaps it's just that the idea of incest adds a layer that some will not
cross that makes the difference.
Below are some of the listed 'benefits' from living in a 'loving'
"Christian Nation®"
In 1992 and 1993, women were the victims of 500,200 rapes and/or sexual
assaults. Of these, 34 percent were completed rapes, 28 percent attempted
rapes, 28 percent sexual assault with serious injury, 5 percent sexual
assault with minor injury, and 15 percent other sexual assaults (Bachman and
Saltzman, 1995).
Every minute in the United States, 1.3 adult women are raped; 78 women are
raped every hour; 1,871 women are raped every day; 56,916 women are raped
every month; 683,000 women are raped every year. (Crime Victims Research and
Treatment Center of the National Victim Center, 1992).
The rate of sexual assault in the United States is the highest of any
industrialized nation in the world (Reiso and Roth, 1993).
Twenty percent of adult women, 15 percent of college women, and 12 percent
of adolescent girls have experienced sexual abuse and assault during their
lives (Koss, 1988).
Compared to all other age groups, women age 19 to 29 reported more violence
by their partners. Women age 12 to 18 were more likely than women older than
18 to report violence against them by friends or acquaintances. In general,
women age 65 or older were the least likely to report an act of violence
(Bachman and Saltzman, 1995).
Twenty-nine percent of all rapes occur when the victim is less than 11 years
old and 32 percent of rapes occur when the victim is between the ages of 11
and 17 (Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center of the National Victim
Center, 1992).
Twenty-nine percent of all rapes occur when the victim is less than 11 years
old and 32 percent of rapes occur when the victim is between the ages of 11
and 17 (Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center of the National Victim
Center, 1992).
Women between the ages of 16 and 24 were three times more likely to be raped
than women in other age cohorts (Harlow, 1991).
78 percent of rapes involve a person the victim knew -- husbands/ex-
husbands (9 percent), fathers/step-fathers (11 percent), boyfriends/ex-
boyfriends (10 percent), other relatives/friends/neighbors (29) percent)
(National Victim Center, 1992).
82 percent of women raped or sexually assaulted in 1992-1993 by a lone
offender were victimized by a spouse, ex-spouse, partner, friend,
acquaintance or relative (Bachman and Saltzman, 1995).
One in six American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed
rape, and 10% of sexual assault victims are men. (Rainn.org.)
Almost half of all rape is non reported to authorities.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm
http://www.rainn.org/docs/statistics/ncvs2004.pdf?PHPSESSID=545772b8d849fbfa91f653c5f484ab84
http://www.csom.org/pubs/mythsfacts.html
Last, but not least, about the children specifically (realize that these are
just statistics from REPORTED incidences)
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/saycrle.pdf
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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29 Mar 2006 07:08:56 AM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, No One in episode
<m3odzp696k.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact, in addition to
e-mail correspondence with a master's student at Vanderbilt publicized
recently, in which she said as much, she has also said homosexual
couples may molest the children they adopt.
Is Maggart just an idiot or is she some sort of neo-nazi who kind of heard
that it is no longer cool to target Jews and who desparately needs a
replacement?
These are not mutually exclusive categories.
Or are we seeing a contest between Debra Maggart and J Young
as to who can be the daftest?
Of course, you can say the same thing about straight couples that this
wingnut said about gay couples.
Or Catholic priests...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
I just love this one...
"For those of us who grew up in Louisiana,
'The Wizard of Oz' was like a documentary.
Dorothy left Kansas and simply went to Mardi Gras."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2EA439BC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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29 Mar 2006 10:51:16 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:_J6dnVrcgp80u7fZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact, in addition to
e-mail correspondence with a master's student at Vanderbilt publicized
recently, in which she said as much, she has also said homosexual couples
may molest the children they adopt.
[snip unsubstantiated homophobic BS]
Don't get your knickers in a twist about gay parenting. I don't think that
a day goes by here without the TV news mentioning the arrest of some guy,
described as "the mother's boyfriend" for some particularly heinous example
child abuse or child abuse that results in murder. I've never seen such a
story about a gay couple.
" The truth shall set you free "
You wouldn't recognize the truth if it bit you on the *****.
Which we wish it would do...
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30 Mar 2006 01:32:55 PM |
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"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
news:442abe88$0$16813$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:_J6dnVrcgp80u7fZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact, in addition to
e-mail correspondence with a master's student at Vanderbilt publicized
recently, in which she said as much, she has also said homosexual couples
may molest the children they adopt.
[snip unsubstantiated homophobic BS]
Don't get your knickers in a twist about gay parenting. I don't think
that
a day goes by here without the TV news mentioning the arrest of some guy,
described as "the mother's boyfriend" for some particularly heinous
example
child abuse or child abuse that results in murder. I've never seen such a
story about a gay couple.
The moment there is watch them scream it from the roof tops......hundreds of
heterosexual cases on the news each year, but one homosexual case and they
were right. Reason isn't in their friend
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30 Mar 2006 01:59:41 PM |
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
news:uqCdnRYbb8T0r7HZRVnytQ@bt.com...
"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
news:442abe88$0$16813$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:_J6dnVrcgp80u7fZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes
homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact, in addition
to
e-mail correspondence with a master's student at Vanderbilt publicized
recently, in which she said as much, she has also said homosexual
couples
may molest the children they adopt.
[snip unsubstantiated homophobic BS]
Don't get your knickers in a twist about gay parenting. I don't think
that
a day goes by here without the TV news mentioning the arrest of some
guy,
described as "the mother's boyfriend" for some particularly heinous
example
child abuse or child abuse that results in murder. I've never seen such
a
story about a gay couple.
The moment there is watch them scream it from the roof tops......hundreds
of
heterosexual cases on the news each year, but one homosexual case and they
were right. Reason isn't in their friend
And the "boyfriend" end of another heterosexual couple was booked for the
murder of the woman's toddler yesterday.
I wonder if the dynamic in a homosexual couple would tend to help protect a
child from the abuse of one spouse? I know I've seen quite a number of
cases of heterosexual couples with abusive stepfather/boyfriend where Mom
KNEW what was being done to the child but did nothing to stop it until a
teacher or doctor figured out what was wrong and got the police involved.
Would a gay partner react differently?
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| User: "Bonnie B" |
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30 Mar 2006 11:39:34 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:59:41 -0600, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "DH"
<dh@stargate.com>
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
news:uqCdnRYbb8T0r7HZRVnytQ@bt.com...
"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
news:442abe88$0$16813$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:_J6dnVrcgp80u7fZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes
homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact, in addition
to
e-mail correspondence with a master's student at Vanderbilt publicized
recently, in which she said as much, she has also said homosexual
couples
may molest the children they adopt.
[snip unsubstantiated homophobic BS]
Don't get your knickers in a twist about gay parenting. I don't think
that
a day goes by here without the TV news mentioning the arrest of some
guy,
described as "the mother's boyfriend" for some particularly heinous
example
child abuse or child abuse that results in murder. I've never seen such
a
story about a gay couple.
The moment there is watch them scream it from the roof tops......hundreds
of
heterosexual cases on the news each year, but one homosexual case and they
were right. Reason isn't in their friend
And the "boyfriend" end of another heterosexual couple was booked for the
murder of the woman's toddler yesterday.
I wonder if the dynamic in a homosexual couple would tend to help protect a
child from the abuse of one spouse? I know I've seen quite a number of
cases of heterosexual couples with abusive stepfather/boyfriend where Mom
KNEW what was being done to the child but did nothing to stop it until a
teacher or doctor figured out what was wrong and got the police involved.
Would a gay partner react differently?
Uh, yeah, because we'd never get into that situation to begin with.
When same-sex couples have children, the children are planed with much
forethought and effort. The children are loved and wanted.
Children who are loved and wanted tend not to have parents who beat
the ***** out of them or murder them.
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| User: "tulle" |
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31 Mar 2006 06:26:55 AM |
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Bonnie B wrote:
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:59:41 -0600, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "DH"
<dh@stargate.com>
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
news:uqCdnRYbb8T0r7HZRVnytQ@bt.com...
"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
news:442abe88$0$16813$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:_J6dnVrcgp80u7fZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes
homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact, in addition
to
e-mail correspondence with a master's student at Vanderbilt publicized
recently, in which she said as much, she has also said homosexual
couples
may molest the children they adopt.
[snip unsubstantiated homophobic BS]
Don't get your knickers in a twist about gay parenting. I don't think
that
a day goes by here without the TV news mentioning the arrest of some
guy,
described as "the mother's boyfriend" for some particularly heinous
example
child abuse or child abuse that results in murder. I've never seen such
a
story about a gay couple.
The moment there is watch them scream it from the roof tops......hundreds
of
heterosexual cases on the news each year, but one homosexual case and they
were right. Reason isn't in their friend
And the "boyfriend" end of another heterosexual couple was booked for the
murder of the woman's toddler yesterday.
I wonder if the dynamic in a homosexual couple would tend to help protect a
child from the abuse of one spouse? I know I've seen quite a number of
cases of heterosexual couples with abusive stepfather/boyfriend where Mom
KNEW what was being done to the child but did nothing to stop it until a
teacher or doctor figured out what was wrong and got the police involved.
Would a gay partner react differently?
Uh, yeah, because we'd never get into that situation to begin with.
When same-sex couples have children, the children are planed with much
forethought and effort. The children are loved and wanted.
Children who are loved and wanted tend not to have parents who beat
the ***** out of them or murder them.
Bonnie! How ya doing?!?
If it wasn't so tragic, it would be funny that the hets look for ways
to blame all the worlds problems on gays. Therefore they totally miss
the real problem. They should work on cleaning out thier own back yard
before worring about thier neighbors.
tulle
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| User: "Bonnie B" |
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31 Mar 2006 08:56:23 AM |
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On 31 Mar 2006 04:26:55 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
<tulle040657@yahoo.com>
TULLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<big kiss noise>
Bonnie B wrote:
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:59:41 -0600, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "DH"
<dh@stargate.com>
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
news:uqCdnRYbb8T0r7HZRVnytQ@bt.com...
"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
news:442abe88$0$16813$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:_J6dnVrcgp80u7fZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes
homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact, in addition
to
e-mail correspondence with a master's student at Vanderbilt publicized
recently, in which she said as much, she has also said homosexual
couples
may molest the children they adopt.
[snip unsubstantiated homophobic BS]
Don't get your knickers in a twist about gay parenting. I don't think
that
a day goes by here without the TV news mentioning the arrest of some
guy,
described as "the mother's boyfriend" for some particularly heinous
example
child abuse or child abuse that results in murder. I've never seen such
a
story about a gay couple.
The moment there is watch them scream it from the roof tops......hundreds
of
heterosexual cases on the news each year, but one homosexual case and they
were right. Reason isn't in their friend
And the "boyfriend" end of another heterosexual couple was booked for the
murder of the woman's toddler yesterday.
I wonder if the dynamic in a homosexual couple would tend to help protect a
child from the abuse of one spouse? I know I've seen quite a number of
cases of heterosexual couples with abusive stepfather/boyfriend where Mom
KNEW what was being done to the child but did nothing to stop it until a
teacher or doctor figured out what was wrong and got the police involved.
Would a gay partner react differently?
Uh, yeah, because we'd never get into that situation to begin with.
When same-sex couples have children, the children are planed with much
forethought and effort. The children are loved and wanted.
Children who are loved and wanted tend not to have parents who beat
the ***** out of them or murder them.
Bonnie! How ya doing?!?
Oh, the usual --
my annual spring allergies, combined with this christstain troll named
Alberdick and I ran out of coffee yesterday and I had no time to go
out and get more......
You?
If it wasn't so tragic, it would be funny that the hets look for ways
to blame all the worlds problems on gays.
Oh, yeah, and then they act as if heterosexuality is so goddamned
tenuous that the merest mention of homosexuality will send little
Susie into the arms of other women forever.
Therefore they totally miss
the real problem. They should work on cleaning out thier own back yard
before worring about thier neighbors.
Well, duh! Anyone with a brain would.
Hell, even Rusty Yates (ex-husband of Andrea Yates, the HETEROsexual
christstain cuntbag who murdered her five children) got as fuckin' far
away from that sick ***** ex-wife of his and got married again.
Oh,and the christstains are bitching about that one, lemme tell ya.
Not as loud and nasty as they ***** about Michael Schiavo, though.
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31 Mar 2006 09:43:51 PM |
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 06:56:23 -0800, Bonnie B <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad>
wrote:
On 31 Mar 2006 04:26:55 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "tulle"
<tulle040657@yahoo.com>
Bonnie! How ya doing?!?
Oh, the usual --
my animal allergies are palying havoc with my sex life, combined with this christstain named
Alber whose ***** and I ran out of yesterday and I had no time to go out and get more......
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31 Mar 2006 09:38:57 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:39:34 -0800, Bonnie B <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad>
wrote:
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:59:41 -0600, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "DH"
<dh@stargate.com>
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
news:uqCdnRYbb8T0r7HZRVnytQ@bt.com...
"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
news:442abe88$0$16813$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:_J6dnVrcgp80u7fZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes
homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact, in addition
to
e-mail correspondence with a master's student at Vanderbilt publicized
recently, in which she said as much, she has also said homosexual
couples
may molest the children they adopt.
[snip unsubstantiated homophobic BS]
Don't get your knickers in a twist about gay parenting. I don't think
that
a day goes by here without the TV news mentioning the arrest of some
guy,
described as "the mother's boyfriend" for some particularly heinous
example
child abuse or child abuse that results in murder. I've never seen such
a
story about a gay couple.
The moment there is watch them scream it from the roof tops......hundreds
of
heterosexual cases on the news each year, but one homosexual case and they
were right. Reason isn't in their friend
And the "boyfriend" end of another heterosexual couple was booked for the
murder of the woman's toddler yesterday.
I wonder if the dynamic in a homosexual couple would tend to help protect a
child from the abuse of one spouse? I know I've seen quite a number of
cases of heterosexual couples with abusive stepfather/boyfriend where Mom
KNEW what was being done to the child but did nothing to stop it until a
teacher or doctor figured out what was wrong and got the police involved.
Would a gay partner react differently?
Uh, yeah, because we'd never get into that situation to begin with.
When same-sex couples have children, the children are planed with much
forethought and effort. The children are loved and wanted.
Children who are loved and wanted tend not to have parents who beat
the ***** out of them or murder them.
Yeah, sure, you lying insignificant little *****!
"On September 26, 1999, police in Rogers, Arkansas, responded
to a 911 call and went to the home of David Carpenter, 38. There they
found Joshua Brown, 22, described as Carpenter's lover. They also
found Jesse Dirkhising, a 13-year-old boy from nearby Prairie Grove,
tied to a mattress. Police investigation determined that Dirkising had
been repeatedly anally raped over a period of hours, including with
foreign objects. His ankles, knees and wrists had been bound in duct
tape and he was gagged and blindfolded with his own underpants, held
in place with a bandanna. He had been administered a sedative. He died
in hospital shortly afterwards, his death attributed to asphyxia.
In March 2001 Brown was found guilty of first-degree murder and rape.
He was sentenced to life in prison, and this sentence was upheld on
appeal by the Arkansas Supreme Court in September 2003. In April,
Carpenter pleaded guilty to similar charges and was also sentenced to
life."
In the month after Shepard's murder, Nexis recorded 3,007 stories
about his death. In the month after Dirkhising's murder, Nexis
recorded 46 stories about his... I think there's clearly evidence that
many people in the media decided, 'Well, we're not going to go there
because we know it will feed anti-gay prejudice'.
What we are seeing, I fear, is a logical consequence of the
culture that hate-crimes rhetoric promotes. Some deaths—if they affect
a politically protected class—are worth more than others. Other
deaths, those that do not fit a politically correct profile, are left
to oblivion. The leading gay rights organization, the Human Rights
Campaign—which has raised oodles of cash exploiting the horror of
Shepard’s murder—has said nothing whatsoever about the Dirkhising
case.
How nice those homosexuals are...certainly they should be allowed to
adopt heterosexual children and raise them to an age of slaughter.
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29 Mar 2006 10:25:22 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:_J6dnVrcgp80u7fZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children.
"Debbie" should not be allowed to adopt children. Poor thing. It's a
wonder she can do her job - what with homosexuals on her mind all the time.
I shudder to think what she does to herself when she lets her mind wonder
about two gay people having sex.
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29 Mar 2006 08:20:33 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:_J6dnVrcgp80u7fZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
J. Young, you're quite OBSESSED with homosexuals and depicting them in ANY
way possible as negative. It stands to reason that a POSSIBLE reason for
this CONSTANT need to reinforce negative feelings toward homosexuality is in
the effort to not allow such feelings to surface and therefore become
something unacceptable to society, religion, etc. Does this apply to you?
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact, in addition to
e-mail correspondence with a master's student at Vanderbilt publicized
recently, in which she said as much, she has also said homosexual couples
may molest the children they adopt.
Now, isn't THAT funny but not ha ha funny for sure. I KNOW of one man who
actually HAD biological children in order to molest them.
The fear mongering tactics of anal conservatives know no boundarys. Their
"best" fear mongering tactic is to associate ALL homosexuals with
pedophiles.
"We also have seen evidence that homosexual couples prey on young males
and
have, in some instances, adopted them in order to have unfretted access to
subject them to a life of molestation and sexual abuse," she said.
"In all cases to paint with a broad brush strokes is unfortunate," said
adoptive parent Dr. Christopher Harris.
Of course, no credible statistical source is cited and it's just okay to say
"we've seen evidence." Where's the evidence? Show us.
Harris is a pediatrician by day and a single gay adoptive parent by night.
"She brings such joy into my life," he said. "It's always said
pediatrician
doesn't finished his training till he or she has a kid."
Harris fits every requirement for the state's definition of a good
adoptive
parent: loving, healthy and financially stable. He is also gay, and for
Maggert, that means he's unqualified.
"I have strong convictions. I just feel kids in our foster have been
through
enough. They need the optimum family unit, and that is a mother and a
father," she said.
Yeah, and were are all the loving heterosexuals who don't adopt them?
In the e-mail with the Vanderbilt student, Maggart said research shows
most
homosexual couples have numerous emotional dysfunctions and psychological
issues that may not be healthy for children.
This is a ball faced lie. I've done research on what kinds of researches
have been done on gay people and there are not that many and they always use
very few people. The professional sites I've been too ALL agree that there
have been too few gay people involved in studies to produce any empirical
statements like you make to the negative but that also includes the
positive.
We heterosexuals have dysfunctions and psychological issues that may and
have been proved to be NOT healthy for children. Yet, if a step mother or
father steps into the picture, where's all the other heterosexual concerned
citizens? One therapist friend of mine, told me years ago that the bulk of
his practice is made up of mixed parents, iows, 2nd marriages.
" The truth shall set you free "
If THAT statement is true, then you are NOT free and are BOUND by your lies!
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Some Gay Couples Adopt to Molest, State Rep Says |
29 Mar 2006 05:57:28 PM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, Jude in episode
<JHwWf.174$68.11@bignews7.bellsouth.net>...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:_J6dnVrcgp80u7fZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
J. Young, you're quite OBSESSED with homosexuals
And still can't get any...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
I just love this one...
"For those of us who grew up in Louisiana,
'The Wizard of Oz' was like a documentary.
Dorothy left Kansas and simply went to Mardi Gras."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2EA439BC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Some Gay Couples Adopt to Molest, State Rep Says |
29 Mar 2006 03:04:02 AM |
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In News _J6dnVrcgp80u7fZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes
homosexual couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact,
in addition to e-mail correspondence with a master's student at
Vanderbilt publicized recently, in which she said as much, she has
also said homosexual couples may molest the children they adopt.
Yeah, there are still some really stupid people that believes this crap.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Bitchin Bonney" |
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| Title: Re: Some Gay Couples Adopt to Molest, State Rep Says |
31 Mar 2006 10:51:53 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:04:02 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News _J6dnVrcgp80u7fZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes
homosexual couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact,
in addition to e-mail correspondence with a master's student at
Vanderbilt publicized recently, in which she said as much, she has
also said homosexual couples may molest the children they adopt.
Yeah, there are still some really stupid people that don't believes this.
Liberals, of course.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Some Gay Couples Adopt to Molest, State Rep Says |
01 Apr 2006 06:41:03 AM |
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In News 8n1s22pe52jikkmq976q9cai7n62scfabd@4ax.com,, Bitchin' Bonney at
bibon@râlant.org, typed this:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:04:02 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
In News _J6dnVrcgp80u7fZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes
homosexual couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact,
in addition to e-mail correspondence with a master's student at
Vanderbilt publicized recently, in which she said as much, she has
also said Bill Taylor and his wife may molest the children they adopt.
Yeah, there are still some really stupid people that don't believes
this. Idiots like ***** Taylor, of course.
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| User: "Bock" |
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| Title: Re: Some Gay Couples Adopt to Molest, State Rep Says |
29 Mar 2006 07:24:58 AM |
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J Young wrote:
http://www.newschannel5.com/content/news/18216.asp?print=true
Rep. Debra Maggart, R-Hendersonville, said she still believes homosexual
couples should not be allowed to adopt children. In fact, in addition to
e-mail correspondence with a master's student at Vanderbilt publicized
recently, in which she said as much, she has also said homosexual couples
may molest the children they adopt.
Yes, you are correct that homosexuals may molest children they adopt but
any
parent may molest any child they produce.
The sin of sins are children put in orphanages and foster homes where
people
are paid money and are employed in a position of trust to protect the
children
and either do not protect them or abuse the children themselves.
"We also have seen evidence that homosexual couples prey on young males and
have, in some instances, adopted them in order to have unfretted access to
subject them to a life of molestation and sexual abuse," she said.
I would hope that people in authority would have seen cases of the
terrible
things that happen to children else they would be doing their jobs.
"In all cases to paint with a broad brush strokes is unfortunate," said
adoptive parent Dr. Christopher Harris.
Harris is a pediatrician by day and a single gay adoptive parent by night.
My heterosexual adoptive parents were such that my father had
girlfriends up and down
the highway and my mother never got up before noon and played bingo 4
nights or 5
nights a week. Sexual abuse my brother and I did not suffer, but
neglect is
another story.
"She brings such joy into my life," he said. "It's always said pediatrician
doesn't finished his training till he or she has a kid."
Harris fits every requirement for the state's definition of a good adoptive
parent: loving, healthy and financially stable. He is also gay, and for
Maggert, that means he's unqualified.
"I have strong convictions. I just feel kids in our foster have been through
enough. They need the optimum family unit, and that is a mother and a
father," she said.
Historically and currently in society 99 percent of all adoptive parents
are heterosexual.
Most of the sexual abuse cases were from a heterosexual environment or
family setting.
In the e-mail with the Vanderbilt student, Maggart said research shows most
homosexual couples have numerous emotional dysfunctions and psychological
issues that may not be healthy for children.
Funny enough the majority of society is heterosexual. In that context
most psychologists
and psychiatrists would be unemployed if only homosexuals were
patients. Remember since one
in a billion couples are homosexual, 99 percent of all abuse cases
result form a heterosexual
environment
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