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"Bob White" |
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11 Oct 2003 05:52:41 PM |
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some great religious truths |
1. Muslims do not recognize Judaism as a religion.
2. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
3. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the
Christian faith.
4. Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store
or at Hooters.
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Re: some great religious truths |
11 Oct 2003 08:14:04 PM |
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"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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1. Muslims do not recognize Judaism as a religion.
2. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
3. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the
Christian faith.
4. Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store
or at Hooters.
Isn't "religious truth" some sort of oxymoron....?
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Atheist FF/EMT
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| User: "Kevin Aylward" |
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| Title: Re: some great religious truths |
12 Oct 2003 02:53:13 AM |
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The other Donald wrote:
"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ZQ%hb.96151$%h1.94080@sccrnsc02...
1. Muslims do not recognize Judaism as a religion.
2. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
3. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the
Christian faith.
4. Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store
or at Hooters.
Isn't "religious truth" some sort of oxymoron....?
Not at all. It is an oxymoron.
Kevin Aylward
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.
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| User: "Bob White" |
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| Title: Re: some great religious truths |
13 Oct 2003 11:37:42 AM |
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"Kevin Aylward" <kevindotaylwardEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk> wrote in message
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The other Donald wrote:
"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ZQ%hb.96151$%h1.94080@sccrnsc02...
1. Muslims do not recognize Judaism as a religion.
2. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
3. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the
Christian faith.
4. Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store
or at Hooters.
Isn't "religious truth" some sort of oxymoron....?
Not at all. It is an oxymoron.
Say whut?
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| User: "Bill, The Avender" |
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| Title: Re: some great religious truths |
13 Oct 2003 01:24:07 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:37:42 GMT, "Bob White"
<threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Kevin Aylward" <kevindotaylwardEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk> wrote in message
news:RL7ib.242$yR6.45@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...
The other Donald wrote:
"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ZQ%hb.96151$%h1.94080@sccrnsc02...
1. Muslims do not recognize Judaism as a religion.
2. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
3. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the
Christian faith.
4. Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store
or at Hooters.
Isn't "religious truth" some sort of oxymoron....?
Not at all. It is an oxymoron.
Say whut?
In some linguistic circles, "some sort of <such-and-such>" implies
that it's actually not quite a _true_ <such-and-such>, but close. So
seen from that linguistic perspective, it's not "some sort of"
oxymoron, because that would mean that it isn't quite a _true_
oxymoron. Thus, it just _is_ an oxymoron.
--
L8r,
Avender
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Common is the man who can be fashioned into a
reflection of the era in which he lives.
Rare is the man who can take the era in which
he lives, and fashion it into a reflection
of himself.
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| User: "Bob White" |
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| Title: Re: some great religious truths |
13 Oct 2003 02:56:39 PM |
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"Bill, The Avender" <Avender@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
news:3f92ed51.58531618@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...
In alt.atheism on Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:37:42 GMT, "Bob White"
<threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Kevin Aylward" <kevindotaylwardEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk> wrote in message
news:RL7ib.242$yR6.45@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...
The other Donald wrote:
"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ZQ%hb.96151$%h1.94080@sccrnsc02...
1. Muslims do not recognize Judaism as a religion.
2. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
3. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the
Christian faith.
4. Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store
or at Hooters.
Isn't "religious truth" some sort of oxymoron....?
Not at all. It is an oxymoron.
Say whut?
In some linguistic circles, "some sort of <such-and-such>" implies
that it's actually not quite a _true_ <such-and-such>, but close.
Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades. 8^)
Something is either an oxymoron or it isn't. Close doesn't count.
So
seen from that linguistic perspective, it's not "some sort of"
oxymoron, because that would mean that it isn't quite a _true_
oxymoron. Thus, it just _is_ an oxymoron.
Isn't a #10 X 3" Phillips-head screw" some sort of screw?
Can you produce an example of something that is not quite an oxymoron?
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| User: "Bill, The Avender" |
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| Title: Re: some great religious truths |
13 Oct 2003 03:03:53 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:56:39 GMT, "Bob White"
<threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Bill, The Avender" <Avender@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
news:3f92ed51.58531618@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...
In alt.atheism on Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:37:42 GMT, "Bob White"
<threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Kevin Aylward" <kevindotaylwardEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk> wrote in message
news:RL7ib.242$yR6.45@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net...
The other Donald wrote:
"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ZQ%hb.96151$%h1.94080@sccrnsc02...
1. Muslims do not recognize Judaism as a religion.
2. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
3. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the
Christian faith.
4. Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store
or at Hooters.
Isn't "religious truth" some sort of oxymoron....?
Not at all. It is an oxymoron.
Say whut?
In some linguistic circles, "some sort of <such-and-such>" implies
that it's actually not quite a _true_ <such-and-such>, but close.
Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades. 8^)
Something is either an oxymoron or it isn't. Close doesn't count.
So
seen from that linguistic perspective, it's not "some sort of"
oxymoron, because that would mean that it isn't quite a _true_
oxymoron. Thus, it just _is_ an oxymoron.
Isn't a #10 X 3" Phillips-head screw" some sort of screw?
Can you produce an example of something that is not quite an oxymoron?
No, but I'm not the one who 'corrected' you. I'm just explaining why
someone, somewhere, might have made the 'correction' that was made to
you. I, myself, do not see it the same way as they.
--
L8r,
Avender
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Common is the man who can be fashioned into a
reflection of the era in which he lives.
Rare is the man who can take the era in which
he lives, and fashion it into a reflection
of himself.
- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - --
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: some great religious truths |
13 Oct 2003 10:27:52 AM |
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Bob White wrote:
1. Muslims do not recognize Judaism as a religion.
Patently false. The Quran explictly recognizes Judaism and Christianity.
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "Bob White" |
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| Title: Re: some great religious truths |
13 Oct 2003 11:45:50 AM |
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"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
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Bob White wrote:
1. Muslims do not recognize Judaism as a religion.
Patently false. The Quran explictly recognizes Judaism and Christianity.
Muslims recognize Jews and Christians (and anybody else) as infidels.
Moslems say that the only god is Allah and Mohammad is his prophet.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: some great religious truths |
13 Oct 2003 01:16:57 PM |
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Bob White wrote:
"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:3F8AC478.66E2734A@serv.net...
Bob White wrote:
1. Muslims do not recognize Judaism as a religion.
Patently false. The Quran explictly recognizes Judaism and Christianity.
Muslims recognize Jews and Christians (and anybody else) as infidels.
Moslems say that the only god is Allah and Mohammad is his prophet.
Well yeah, but the People of the Book are a higher class of infidel.
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "Bill, The Avender" |
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| Title: Re: some great religious truths |
13 Oct 2003 01:26:47 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:45:50 GMT, "Bob White"
<threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:3F8AC478.66E2734A@serv.net...
Bob White wrote:
1. Muslims do not recognize Judaism as a religion.
Patently false. The Quran explictly recognizes Judaism and Christianity.
Muslims recognize Jews and Christians (and anybody else) as infidels.
Moslems say that the only god is Allah and Mohammad is his prophet.
I don't believe this is correct. They refer to Christians and Jews as
"People of the Book", and technically aren't supposed to harm them.
When they call a Christian or a Jew an "infidel", I believe they mean
that the person referenced isn't _really_ a Christian or a Jew - that
they're betraying "The Book" in some way or another & thus aren't
truly religious people. Kind of like an outsider's "no true
scottsman" fallacy.
--
L8r,
Avender
- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - --
Common is the man who can be fashioned into a
reflection of the era in which he lives.
Rare is the man who can take the era in which
he lives, and fashion it into a reflection
of himself.
- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - --
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: some great religious truths |
13 Oct 2003 01:46:07 PM |
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Bill, The Avender wrote:
In alt.atheism on Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:45:50 GMT, "Bob White"
<threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:3F8AC478.66E2734A@serv.net...
Bob White wrote:
1. Muslims do not recognize Judaism as a religion.
Patently false. The Quran explictly recognizes Judaism and Christianity.
Muslims recognize Jews and Christians (and anybody else) as infidels.
Moslems say that the only god is Allah and Mohammad is his prophet.
I don't believe this is correct. They refer to Christians and Jews as
"People of the Book", and technically aren't supposed to harm them.
They can tax them, which they're not supposed to do to fellow Muslims,
but they're supposed to permit religious freedom for "The People of the
Book", as opposed to *other* infidels.
When they call a Christian or a Jew an "infidel", I believe they mean
that the person referenced isn't _really_ a Christian or a Jew - that
they're betraying "The Book" in some way or another & thus aren't
truly religious people. Kind of like an outsider's "no true
scottsman" fallacy.
--
L8r,
Avender
- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - --
Common is the man who can be fashioned into a
reflection of the era in which he lives.
Rare is the man who can take the era in which
he lives, and fashion it into a reflection
of himself.
- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - --
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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