Religions > Atheism > Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
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Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds |
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
http://tinyurl.com/f4k7c
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ULC, Modesto, CA
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08 May 2006 06:32:13 PM |
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"Enkidu" <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> schreef in bericht
news:Xns97BD9B920DE9A255229@130.133.1.4...
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
"Raised the ire"? That would sound pretty cool in some fantasy novel!
http://tinyurl.com/f4k7c
Good for them! By all means let's impose restrictions on perfectly normal,
natural behaviour.
Why should people take a *ridiculous* pledge like that anyway? Oh wait -
religion is somehow involved, right? Forget I asked...
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 May 2006 02:49:44 PM |
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On Tue, 9 May 2006 01:32:13 +0200, "Lukas Mariman"
<lukas.mariman@skynet.be> wrote in alt.atheism
"Enkidu" <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> schreef in bericht
news:Xns97BD9B920DE9A255229@130.133.1.4...
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
"Raised the ire"? That would sound pretty cool in some fantasy novel!
http://tinyurl.com/f4k7c
Good for them! By all means let's impose restrictions on perfectly normal,
natural behaviour.
Why should people take a *ridiculous* pledge like that anyway? Oh wait -
religion is somehow involved, right? Forget I asked...
Yep, all the atrocities are superstition based.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Walter Bushell" |
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20 May 2006 07:59:04 AM |
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In article <k2ec629jm66urp1o8tl4o7t6m2fl25ug49@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
Why should people take a *ridiculous* pledge like that anyway? Oh wait -
religion is somehow involved, right? Forget I asked...
To gain respect in the community and family, leading to more
opportunities.
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Guns don't kill people; automobiles kill people.
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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20 May 2006 02:51:06 PM |
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Walter Bushell wrote:
In article <k2ec629jm66urp1o8tl4o7t6m2fl25ug49@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
Why should people take a *ridiculous* pledge like that anyway? Oh wait -
religion is somehow involved, right? Forget I asked...
To gain respect in the community and family, leading to more
opportunities.
Moron right wingers bring programs to schools to force
such pledges 'voluntarily' on children. These morons, in
conjunctions with churches and familes weave a net of
semi-coercion and get people to go along with these things
just to keep people off their backs.
Once the issue is forced on families to confront, its hard for
many to say no in name of self determination. If you klive in
some pathetic small town full of religious oafs who letthese
things into schools, with the entire society, church, school authorities,
family, friends, and others leaning on you subtly to take the pledge,
its hard to say no. It does not mean then all are serious about it.
This should then be obvious.
Such things never work quite as per design or expectation.
Because true volunteerism is often absent in such things
for many people.
With all the churches we have, lying, racism and
adultery would have been all but unknown over the last
200 years in America if stuff like this worked.
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Asked to explain, Eichmann said, "My fellow officers
and I coined our own name for our language. We called
it amtssprache -- 'office talk.'" In office talk "you deny
responsibility for your actions. So if anybody says, 'Why
did you do it?' you say, 'I had to.' 'Why did you have to?'
'Superiors' orders. Company policy. It's the law.'"
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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09 May 2006 12:45:45 AM |
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"Enkidu" <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97BD9B920DE9A255229@130.133.1.4...
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
http://tinyurl.com/f4k7c
I like this quote:
"This study is in direct contradiction with trends we have been seeing in
recent years," Crouse said. "Those who make virginity pledges have shown
greater resolve to save sex for marriage."
Translation: "My little poopsie would NEVER allow herself to be porked!"
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 May 2006 09:43:14 AM |
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On Tue, 9 May 2006 00:45:45 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote
in alt.atheism
"Enkidu" <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97BD9B920DE9A255229@130.133.1.4...
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
http://tinyurl.com/f4k7c
I like this quote:
"This study is in direct contradiction with trends we have been seeing in
recent years," Crouse said. "Those who make virginity pledges have shown
greater resolve to save sex for marriage."
Translation: "My little poopsie would NEVER allow herself to be porked!"
and
"LALLALALALALALALLAALALLAALALALALLAALLALALALALA
LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALLALALALALALAL
I can't hear you!"
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie" |
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09 May 2006 03:52:36 AM |
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Enkidu wrote:
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
http://tinyurl.com/f4k7c
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish
or a Mohammedan nation."
-- Treaty of Tripoli (1797)
I have pretty well always thought that nobody actually believes in God.
If you think about the reasons why they might say that they do, and it
isn't rocket science, imagine the effects of getting your teenagers to
pledge abstinence.
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 May 2006 09:46:44 AM |
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On 9 May 2006 01:52:36 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie" <user13@heathens.org.uk>
wrote in alt.atheism
Enkidu wrote:
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
I have pretty well always thought that nobody actually believes in God.
If you think about the reasons why they might say that they do, and it
isn't rocket science, imagine the effects of getting your teenagers to
pledge abstinence.
Seconds?
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "George Ricker" |
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13 May 2006 12:07:15 PM |
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In article <k9sb62h2qlvmer41d8ehcvcnhoun7869ov@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 9 May 2006 01:52:36 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie" <user13@heathens.org.uk>
wrote in alt.atheism
Enkidu wrote:
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
I have pretty well always thought that nobody actually believes in God.
If you think about the reasons why they might say that they do, and it
isn't rocket science, imagine the effects of getting your teenagers to
pledge abstinence.
Seconds?
Seconded.
--
George Ricker
"Godless in America" by George Ricker is now available at
online book sellers, like amazon.com, and most book retailers.
Go to http://www.godlessinamerica.com for more information.
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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24 May 2006 07:01:21 PM |
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In article
<gSPAMFREEricker-791BCF.13071213052006@news-server2.tampabay.rr.com>,
George Ricker <gSPAMFREEricker@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
In article <k9sb62h2qlvmer41d8ehcvcnhoun7869ov@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 9 May 2006 01:52:36 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie" <user13@heathens.org.uk>
wrote in alt.atheism
Enkidu wrote:
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
I have pretty well always thought that nobody actually believes in God.
If you think about the reasons why they might say that they do, and it
isn't rocket science, imagine the effects of getting your teenagers to
pledge abstinence.
Seconds?
Seconded.
Recorded.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "" |
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08 May 2006 11:49:04 PM |
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Enkidu wrote:
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
http://tinyurl.com/f4k7c
There are two issues here that no one is putting together:
1. Sex education, yes or no
2. Abstinence pledges, yes or no
What I would like to know are the effects of the two combined:
1. Sex education with abstinence pledges
2. Sex education without abstinence pledges
3. No sex education but with abstinence pledges
4. No sex education and no abstinence pledges
I'd wager that the first two have almost the same rates of teen
sex, teen pregnancy and teen STD transmission. The third is far
behind in effectiveness, and the fourth is a disaster.
No doubt the religious reich don't want to study the effects of
sex education in combination with their religious dogma, but why
don't scientists study them together and separately? It would
do a lot to debunk the reich wing's lies.
Bob Dog
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"Easily the biggest challenge facing the ID community
is to develop a full-fledged theory of biological
design. We don't have such a theory right now, and
that's a real problem. Without a theory, it's very
hard to know where to direct your research focus."
- Paul Nelson, creationist
and anti-science advocate
"Maybe he needs a new version of the Ten Commandments
-- George W. Bush's Ten Commandments:
Thou shalt not steal...votes.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's...country.
Thou shalt not kill...for oil.
Thou shalt not take grammar...in vain."
- Margaret Cho
"Texas: 50th in education, first in executions...
how's that working for you?"
- Kinky Friedman's campaign slogan
in the Texas governor's race
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| User: "Martin" |
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09 May 2006 05:22:31 AM |
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wrote:
Enkidu wrote:
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
http://tinyurl.com/f4k7c
There are two issues here that no one is putting together:
1. Sex education, yes or no
2. Abstinence pledges, yes or no
What I would like to know are the effects of the two combined:
1. Sex education with abstinence pledges
2. Sex education without abstinence pledges
3. No sex education but with abstinence pledges
4. No sex education and no abstinence pledges
I'd wager that the first two have almost the same rates of teen
sex, teen pregnancy and teen STD transmission. The third is far
behind in effectiveness, and the fourth is a disaster.
Possibly, but how often is 1 taught and carried out properly? If you are
in a culture of abstinance pledges is sex ed going to be really
comprehensive?
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 May 2006 09:39:53 AM |
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On 8 May 2006 21:49:04 -0700, wrote in alt.atheism
Enkidu wrote:
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
http://tinyurl.com/f4k7c
There are two issues here that no one is putting together:
1. Sex education, yes or no
2. Abstinence pledges, yes or no
What I would like to know are the effects of the two combined:
1. Sex education with abstinence pledges
2. Sex education without abstinence pledges
3. No sex education but with abstinence pledges
4. No sex education and no abstinence pledges
I'd wager that the first two have almost the same rates of teen
sex, teen pregnancy and teen STD transmission. The third is far
behind in effectiveness, and the fourth is a disaster.
No doubt the religious reich don't want to study the effects of
sex education in combination with their religious dogma, but why
don't scientists study them together and separately? It would
do a lot to debunk the reich wing's lies.
It doesn't matter how often Reich Wing lies are debunked. Facts don't
enter their world.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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08 May 2006 05:28:59 PM |
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Enkidu wrote:
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
Well color me shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
Who'd have thought teens (of all people!) were horny?
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09 May 2006 01:09:28 AM |
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In article <Xns97BD9B920DE9A255229@130.133.1.4>,
Enkidu <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote:
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
http://tinyurl.com/f4k7c
Is the CWA jealous because they ain't gettin' any?
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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09 May 2006 01:58:17 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-11AC63.23092808052006@news.giganews.com...
In article <Xns97BD9B920DE9A255229@130.133.1.4>,
Enkidu <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote:
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
http://tinyurl.com/f4k7c
Is the CWA jealous because they ain't gettin' any?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
or they're just not getting it right
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Kathryn
a.a # 2216
In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people
very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move.
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09 May 2006 06:25:11 PM |
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kathryn wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-11AC63.23092808052006@news.giganews.com...
In article <Xns97BD9B920DE9A255229@130.133.1.4>,
Enkidu <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote:
Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds
Elizabeth Mehren, Los Angeles Times
Monday, May 8, 2006
Boston -- Virginity pledges, in which young people vow to abstain from
sex until marriage, have little staying power among those who take them,
a Harvard study has found.
In fact, more than half the adolescents who make such signed, public
promises give up on their pledges within a year, according to the study
released this week.
The findings have raised the ire of Concerned Women for America, a
conservative organization that endorses adolescent sexual abstinence.
http://tinyurl.com/f4k7c
Is the CWA jealous because they ain't gettin' any?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
or they're just not getting it right
According to the article,
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For the Harvard report, researcher Janet Rosenbaum
analyzed data from the National Longitudinal Study
of Adolescent Health, a national survey conducted
by the National Institute of Child Health and
Development. It is the only government-sponsored
study that asks about virginity pledges.
The 14,000 survey subjects were interviewed in
1995 and re-interviewed in 1996 and 2001. They
ranged in age from 12 to 18, and came from across
the United States.
Rosenbaum found that 52 percent of those who said
they had signed virginity pledges recanted them
within a year. Additionally, 73 percent of those
who told the first survey that they had taken a
pledge but later had sex denied making such a
promise when they were surveyed a second time.
....
And:
"That puts a lot of error in these studies,"
Rosenbaum said. Virginity pledgers, she
determined, "are more likely to give bad
information -- unreliable data -- about their
sexual history."
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"The Harvard report is wrong," said Janice Crouse,
a fellow at a Concerned Women for America think
tank.
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The jump up and down and squeal real loud defence.
Basically, Harvard checked 14,000 participants.
So its unlikely to be invalid due to small numbers.
Basiclly, if one is smart (and CWA is not), if you set up a program, you
honestly assess it as you go and change where it does not work.
These Clownish Women of America did not do so and thus
obviously had no idea if they program was working at all or not and
to what extent. Amateurs. DARE, the anti-drug program hgad the same
problem, and also likewise turned out to be rather ineffectual.
I note other studies such as studies that show you men and
women have decided in recent years oral sex is "not really sex",
and other interesting details that make you wonder if far right religious
outfits doing these sorts of things ever read magazines, newspapers,
journals or blogs.
Its all rather funny.
These morons have no idea what is going on and haven't a clue.
..........
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=22324
U.S. Teens Say Oral Sex Not Really Sex, Survey Shows
Main Category: Pediatrics News
Article Date: 05 Apr 2005 - 11:00am (PDT)
US teens view oral sex as less risky than sexual intercourse and view oral
sex as "not sex," according to a study published in the April issue of the
journal... Pediatrics, Reuters reports.
.......
What else is going on in the minds of young people out there in the
heart of darkness that is modern America?
These people are clueless and will never know.
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"Just because you don't take an interest in politics
doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you."
- Pericles
Cheerful Charlie
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| Title: Re: Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds |
10 May 2006 12:20:44 AM |
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On Tue, 09 May 2006 18:25:11 -0500, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:
For the Harvard report, researcher Janet Rosenbaum
analyzed data from the National Longitudinal Study
of Adolescent Health, a national survey conducted
by the National Institute of Child Health and
Development. It is the only government-sponsored
study that asks about virginity pledges.
Typical Bush/GOP ideology-driven policy. Lets put millions of
dollars, year after year into abstinence programs and only later do
one study to find out if they work.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Some may play fast and loose with virginity pledge, study finds |
10 May 2006 11:43:42 PM |
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In article <kst262pn780619vpckqohnb3bjg0kmlhc1@4ax.com>,
satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote:
On Tue, 09 May 2006 18:25:11 -0500, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:
For the Harvard report, researcher Janet Rosenbaum
analyzed data from the National Longitudinal Study
of Adolescent Health, a national survey conducted
by the National Institute of Child Health and
Development. It is the only government-sponsored
study that asks about virginity pledges.
Typical Bush/GOP ideology-driven policy. Lets put millions of
dollars, year after year into abstinence programs and only later do
one study to find out if they work.
Then they rewrite the reports to keep out any negative stuff anyway.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 May 2006 09:45:05 AM |
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 05:20:44 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Tue, 09 May 2006 18:25:11 -0500, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:
For the Harvard report, researcher Janet Rosenbaum
analyzed data from the National Longitudinal Study
of Adolescent Health, a national survey conducted
by the National Institute of Child Health and
Development. It is the only government-sponsored
study that asks about virginity pledges.
Typical Bush/GOP ideology-driven policy. Lets put millions of
dollars, year after year into abstinence programs and only later do
one study to find out if they work.
Of course they don't work. That's why the Religious Reich has those
policies-to stay in line with prayer.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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10 May 2006 12:49:59 AM |
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satyr wrote:
On Tue, 09 May 2006 18:25:11 -0500, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:
For the Harvard report, researcher Janet Rosenbaum
analyzed data from the National Longitudinal Study
of Adolescent Health, a national survey conducted
by the National Institute of Child Health and
Development. It is the only government-sponsored
study that asks about virginity pledges.
Typical Bush/GOP ideology-driven policy. Lets put millions of
dollars, year after year into abstinence programs and only later do
one study to find out if they work.
These virginity programs are works of private groups, not guvmint. The
fact that these dopes are too goofy to keep track of what is going on with
their own program and its signees shows that basically they are idiots.
These things usually do not work well.
One thinks that by now people would notice these things
simply don't work like they imagine they should.
Nancy Reagan tried the "Just say No" approach and it was a bust.
Most people simply show they are not deep thinkers about such programs.
The politicians pile on since it is hard to say no and mostly they
are morons too.
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"Just because you don't take an interest in politics
doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you."
- Pericles
Cheerful Charlie
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10 May 2006 12:38:03 AM |
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satyr wrote:
On Tue, 09 May 2006 18:25:11 -0500, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:
For the Harvard report, researcher Janet Rosenbaum
analyzed data from the National Longitudinal Study
of Adolescent Health, a national survey conducted
by the National Institute of Child Health and
Development. It is the only government-sponsored
study that asks about virginity pledges.
Typical Bush/GOP ideology-driven policy. Lets put millions of
dollars, year after year into abstinence programs and only later do
one study to find out if they work.
And when they discover it doesn't, attack the researchers and cut
funding for the department that sponsored the research. The thing best
supported by "faith-based" policies is idiocy.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 May 2006 09:45:33 AM |
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On 9 May 2006 22:38:03 -0700, wrote in
alt.atheism
satyr wrote:
On Tue, 09 May 2006 18:25:11 -0500, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:
For the Harvard report, researcher Janet Rosenbaum
analyzed data from the National Longitudinal Study
of Adolescent Health, a national survey conducted
by the National Institute of Child Health and
Development. It is the only government-sponsored
study that asks about virginity pledges.
Typical Bush/GOP ideology-driven policy. Lets put millions of
dollars, year after year into abstinence programs and only later do
one study to find out if they work.
And when they discover it doesn't, attack the researchers and cut
funding for the department that sponsored the research. The thing best
supported by "faith-based" policies is idiocy.
Most Christians *are* idiots.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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