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"Budikka666" |
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27 Aug 2007 05:05:38 PM |
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Some Myths Turn Out to Be True - After a Fashion! |
Afarensis at www.scienceblogs.com tells an interesting tale of the
golden fleece:
http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
Budikka
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| User: "JTEM" |
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29 Aug 2007 04:44:46 AM |
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Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
Afarensis atwww.scienceblogs.comtells an interesting
tale of the golden fleece:http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
It's no different than bible babble. There are now a number
of "real life Golden Fleece" origins to choose from, enough
to satisfy all takers...
Here's one: http://tinyurl.com/2a9alq
Bottom paragraph here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/greeks/jason_02.shtml
Along the same lines:
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1468-0092.1991.tb00005.x
Anyway, there's lots of "Literally true" golden fleeces
to choose from. If you can't swallow one, move on to
the next.
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Some Myths Turn Out to Be True - After a Fashion! |
29 Aug 2007 05:23:34 PM |
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On Aug 29, 4:44 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
Afarensis atwww.scienceblogs.comtellsan interesting
tale of the golden fleece:http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
It's no different than bible babble. There are now a number
of "real life Golden Fleece" origins to choose from, enough
to satisfy all takers...
Here's one: http://tinyurl.com/2a9alq
Bottom paragraph here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/greeks/jason_02.shtml
Along the same lines:
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1468-0092.1991.tb0...
Anyway, there's lots of "Literally true" golden fleeces
to choose from. If you can't swallow one, move on to
the next.
Those are cute stories, but I prefer to shear my sheep with Ockham's
razor!
Budikka
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| User: "johac" |
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27 Aug 2007 06:38:39 PM |
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In article <1188252338.353601.302460@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Afarensis at www.scienceblogs.com tells an interesting tale of the
golden fleece:
http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
Interesting. Many of these myths contain a grain of truth, even if just
a very tiny one.
Budikka
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Some Myths Turn Out to Be True - After a Fashion! |
28 Aug 2007 11:23:51 AM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:38:39 -0700, in alt.atheism , johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> in
<jhachmann-38958F.16383927082007@news.giganews.com> wrote:
In article <1188252338.353601.302460@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Afarensis at www.scienceblogs.com tells an interesting tale of the
golden fleece:
http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
Interesting. Many of these myths contain a grain of truth, even if just
a very tiny one.
One of the problems many modern people have with myths is that they
see them as distorted, even dishonest, history. Myths are often, if
not usually, *not* attempts to relate descriptions of actual events,
they are not history or time-distorted versions of history. They are
assertive claims about the world, gods, people, etc. The Jason story
is about heroism, it is about how people should behave, it is about
that common Greek theme hubris. It is not a claim about a real voyage
to get a real golden fleece. Of course there are nuggets, or maybe
just grains, of true things, but that is accidental. The story
mentions boats and the Greeks had boat as well, but since we already
knew that we don't react.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "johac" |
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28 Aug 2007 06:35:17 PM |
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In article <opi8d3hs07j2qlbeu74ojua3dnbmdaq82f@4ax.com>,
Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:38:39 -0700, in alt.atheism , johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> in
<jhachmann-38958F.16383927082007@news.giganews.com> wrote:
In article <1188252338.353601.302460@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Afarensis at www.scienceblogs.com tells an interesting tale of the
golden fleece:
http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
Interesting. Many of these myths contain a grain of truth, even if just
a very tiny one.
One of the problems many modern people have with myths is that they
see them as distorted, even dishonest, history. Myths are often, if
not usually, *not* attempts to relate descriptions of actual events,
they are not history or time-distorted versions of history. They are
assertive claims about the world, gods, people, etc. The Jason story
is about heroism, it is about how people should behave, it is about
that common Greek theme hubris. It is not a claim about a real voyage
to get a real golden fleece. Of course there are nuggets, or maybe
just grains, of true things, but that is accidental. The story
mentions boats and the Greeks had boat as well, but since we already
knew that we don't react.
What I was referring to was that Jason's supposed destination was
probably known a source of gold. The destination was irrelevant as far
as the rest of the story. Perhaps if the myth were about a 'golden
camel' they might have had Jason sailing to Egypt or someplace else in
North Africa, a source of camels.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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29 Aug 2007 06:53:02 PM |
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:35:17 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <opi8d3hs07j2qlbeu74ojua3dnbmdaq82f@4ax.com>,
Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:38:39 -0700, in alt.atheism , johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> in
<jhachmann-38958F.16383927082007@news.giganews.com> wrote:
In article <1188252338.353601.302460@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Afarensis at www.scienceblogs.com tells an interesting tale of the
golden fleece:
http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
Interesting. Many of these myths contain a grain of truth, even if just
a very tiny one.
One of the problems many modern people have with myths is that they
see them as distorted, even dishonest, history. Myths are often, if
not usually, *not* attempts to relate descriptions of actual events,
they are not history or time-distorted versions of history. They are
assertive claims about the world, gods, people, etc. The Jason story
is about heroism, it is about how people should behave, it is about
that common Greek theme hubris. It is not a claim about a real voyage
to get a real golden fleece. Of course there are nuggets, or maybe
just grains, of true things, but that is accidental. The story
mentions boats and the Greeks had boat as well, but since we already
knew that we don't react.
What I was referring to was that Jason's supposed destination was
probably known a source of gold. The destination was irrelevant as far
as the rest of the story. Perhaps if the myth were about a 'golden
camel' they might have had Jason sailing to Egypt or someplace else in
North Africa, a source of camels.
An old method for collecting gold particles from streams, was to
weight a fleece to the stream bed, and leave it for a few weeks.
--
The spelling like any opinion stated here
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
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| User: "johac" |
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30 Aug 2007 01:37:43 AM |
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In article <7uhbd35jjddndja62o36g8c2geb64p7b3i@4ax.com>,
Dubh Ghall <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:35:17 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <opi8d3hs07j2qlbeu74ojua3dnbmdaq82f@4ax.com>,
Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:38:39 -0700, in alt.atheism , johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> in
<jhachmann-38958F.16383927082007@news.giganews.com> wrote:
In article <1188252338.353601.302460@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Afarensis at www.scienceblogs.com tells an interesting tale of the
golden fleece:
http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
Interesting. Many of these myths contain a grain of truth, even if just
a very tiny one.
One of the problems many modern people have with myths is that they
see them as distorted, even dishonest, history. Myths are often, if
not usually, *not* attempts to relate descriptions of actual events,
they are not history or time-distorted versions of history. They are
assertive claims about the world, gods, people, etc. The Jason story
is about heroism, it is about how people should behave, it is about
that common Greek theme hubris. It is not a claim about a real voyage
to get a real golden fleece. Of course there are nuggets, or maybe
just grains, of true things, but that is accidental. The story
mentions boats and the Greeks had boat as well, but since we already
knew that we don't react.
What I was referring to was that Jason's supposed destination was
probably known a source of gold. The destination was irrelevant as far
as the rest of the story. Perhaps if the myth were about a 'golden
camel' they might have had Jason sailing to Egypt or someplace else in
North Africa, a source of camels.
An old method for collecting gold particles from streams, was to
weight a fleece to the stream bed, and leave it for a few weeks.
Yes. I think that was mentioned somewhere else.
--
The spelling like any opinion stated here
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "stoney" |
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02 Sep 2007 06:20:52 PM |
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:35:17 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <opi8d3hs07j2qlbeu74ojua3dnbmdaq82f@4ax.com>,
Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:38:39 -0700, in alt.atheism , johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> in
<jhachmann-38958F.16383927082007@news.giganews.com> wrote:
In article <1188252338.353601.302460@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Afarensis at www.scienceblogs.com tells an interesting tale of the
golden fleece:
http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
Interesting. Many of these myths contain a grain of truth, even if just
a very tiny one.
One of the problems many modern people have with myths is that they
see them as distorted, even dishonest, history. Myths are often, if
not usually, *not* attempts to relate descriptions of actual events,
they are not history or time-distorted versions of history. They are
assertive claims about the world, gods, people, etc. The Jason story
is about heroism, it is about how people should behave, it is about
that common Greek theme hubris. It is not a claim about a real voyage
to get a real golden fleece. Of course there are nuggets, or maybe
just grains, of true things, but that is accidental. The story
mentions boats and the Greeks had boat as well, but since we already
knew that we don't react.
What I was referring to was that Jason's supposed destination was
probably known a source of gold. The destination was irrelevant as far
as the rest of the story. Perhaps if the myth were about a 'golden
camel' they might have had Jason sailing to Egypt or someplace else in
North Africa, a source of camels.
And camel races.....wonder what the jockeys got paid. :D
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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28 Aug 2007 08:51:01 PM |
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:35:17 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <opi8d3hs07j2qlbeu74ojua3dnbmdaq82f@4ax.com>,
Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:38:39 -0700, in alt.atheism , johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> in
<jhachmann-38958F.16383927082007@news.giganews.com> wrote:
In article <1188252338.353601.302460@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Afarensis at www.scienceblogs.com tells an interesting tale of the
golden fleece:
http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
Interesting. Many of these myths contain a grain of truth, even if just
a very tiny one.
One of the problems many modern people have with myths is that they
see them as distorted, even dishonest, history. Myths are often, if
not usually, *not* attempts to relate descriptions of actual events,
they are not history or time-distorted versions of history. They are
assertive claims about the world, gods, people, etc. The Jason story
is about heroism, it is about how people should behave, it is about
that common Greek theme hubris. It is not a claim about a real voyage
to get a real golden fleece. Of course there are nuggets, or maybe
just grains, of true things, but that is accidental. The story
mentions boats and the Greeks had boat as well, but since we already
knew that we don't react.
What I was referring to was that Jason's supposed destination was
probably known a source of gold. The destination was irrelevant as far
as the rest of the story. Perhaps if the myth were about a 'golden
camel' they might have had Jason sailing to Egypt or someplace else in
North Africa, a source of camels.
Sauce of Camels?
Is that near the Sauce of the Nile?
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| User: "johac" |
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28 Aug 2007 11:53:44 PM |
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In article <d7k9d35o7h56j2hpaolmq2q7ia36p9pk6d@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:35:17 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <opi8d3hs07j2qlbeu74ojua3dnbmdaq82f@4ax.com>,
Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:38:39 -0700, in alt.atheism , johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> in
<jhachmann-38958F.16383927082007@news.giganews.com> wrote:
In article <1188252338.353601.302460@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Afarensis at www.scienceblogs.com tells an interesting tale of the
golden fleece:
http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
Interesting. Many of these myths contain a grain of truth, even if just
a very tiny one.
One of the problems many modern people have with myths is that they
see them as distorted, even dishonest, history. Myths are often, if
not usually, *not* attempts to relate descriptions of actual events,
they are not history or time-distorted versions of history. They are
assertive claims about the world, gods, people, etc. The Jason story
is about heroism, it is about how people should behave, it is about
that common Greek theme hubris. It is not a claim about a real voyage
to get a real golden fleece. Of course there are nuggets, or maybe
just grains, of true things, but that is accidental. The story
mentions boats and the Greeks had boat as well, but since we already
knew that we don't react.
What I was referring to was that Jason's supposed destination was
probably known a source of gold. The destination was irrelevant as far
as the rest of the story. Perhaps if the myth were about a 'golden
camel' they might have had Jason sailing to Egypt or someplace else in
North Africa, a source of camels.
Sauce of Camels?
Is that near the Sauce of the Nile?
Sauce of camels? That's what Egyptians put on their flat bread.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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29 Aug 2007 04:16:22 AM |
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:53:44 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d7k9d35o7h56j2hpaolmq2q7ia36p9pk6d@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:35:17 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <opi8d3hs07j2qlbeu74ojua3dnbmdaq82f@4ax.com>,
Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:38:39 -0700, in alt.atheism , johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> in
<jhachmann-38958F.16383927082007@news.giganews.com> wrote:
In article <1188252338.353601.302460@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Afarensis at www.scienceblogs.com tells an interesting tale of the
golden fleece:
http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
Interesting. Many of these myths contain a grain of truth, even if just
a very tiny one.
One of the problems many modern people have with myths is that they
see them as distorted, even dishonest, history. Myths are often, if
not usually, *not* attempts to relate descriptions of actual events,
they are not history or time-distorted versions of history. They are
assertive claims about the world, gods, people, etc. The Jason story
is about heroism, it is about how people should behave, it is about
that common Greek theme hubris. It is not a claim about a real voyage
to get a real golden fleece. Of course there are nuggets, or maybe
just grains, of true things, but that is accidental. The story
mentions boats and the Greeks had boat as well, but since we already
knew that we don't react.
What I was referring to was that Jason's supposed destination was
probably known a source of gold. The destination was irrelevant as far
as the rest of the story. Perhaps if the myth were about a 'golden
camel' they might have had Jason sailing to Egypt or someplace else in
North Africa, a source of camels.
Sauce of Camels?
Is that near the Sauce of the Nile?
Sauce of camels? That's what Egyptians put on their flat bread.
That's a pitta...
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30 Aug 2007 01:39:23 AM |
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In article <saead3580lvf2va9ap0nvsf2mrlet2jdej@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:53:44 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d7k9d35o7h56j2hpaolmq2q7ia36p9pk6d@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:35:17 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <opi8d3hs07j2qlbeu74ojua3dnbmdaq82f@4ax.com>,
Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:38:39 -0700, in alt.atheism , johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> in
<jhachmann-38958F.16383927082007@news.giganews.com> wrote:
In article <1188252338.353601.302460@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Afarensis at www.scienceblogs.com tells an interesting tale of the
golden fleece:
http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
Interesting. Many of these myths contain a grain of truth, even if
just
a very tiny one.
One of the problems many modern people have with myths is that they
see them as distorted, even dishonest, history. Myths are often, if
not usually, *not* attempts to relate descriptions of actual events,
they are not history or time-distorted versions of history. They are
assertive claims about the world, gods, people, etc. The Jason story
is about heroism, it is about how people should behave, it is about
that common Greek theme hubris. It is not a claim about a real voyage
to get a real golden fleece. Of course there are nuggets, or maybe
just grains, of true things, but that is accidental. The story
mentions boats and the Greeks had boat as well, but since we already
knew that we don't react.
What I was referring to was that Jason's supposed destination was
probably known a source of gold. The destination was irrelevant as far
as the rest of the story. Perhaps if the myth were about a 'golden
camel' they might have had Jason sailing to Egypt or someplace else in
North Africa, a source of camels.
Sauce of Camels?
Is that near the Sauce of the Nile?
Sauce of camels? That's what Egyptians put on their flat bread.
That's a pitta...
Pita Piper picked a peck of pickled ... camels?
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "stoney" |
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02 Sep 2007 06:21:42 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:39:23 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <saead3580lvf2va9ap0nvsf2mrlet2jdej@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:53:44 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d7k9d35o7h56j2hpaolmq2q7ia36p9pk6d@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:35:17 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <opi8d3hs07j2qlbeu74ojua3dnbmdaq82f@4ax.com>,
Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:38:39 -0700, in alt.atheism , johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> in
<jhachmann-38958F.16383927082007@news.giganews.com> wrote:
In article <1188252338.353601.302460@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Afarensis at www.scienceblogs.com tells an interesting tale of the
golden fleece:
http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
Interesting. Many of these myths contain a grain of truth, even if
just
a very tiny one.
One of the problems many modern people have with myths is that they
see them as distorted, even dishonest, history. Myths are often, if
not usually, *not* attempts to relate descriptions of actual events,
they are not history or time-distorted versions of history. They are
assertive claims about the world, gods, people, etc. The Jason story
is about heroism, it is about how people should behave, it is about
that common Greek theme hubris. It is not a claim about a real voyage
to get a real golden fleece. Of course there are nuggets, or maybe
just grains, of true things, but that is accidental. The story
mentions boats and the Greeks had boat as well, but since we already
knew that we don't react.
What I was referring to was that Jason's supposed destination was
probably known a source of gold. The destination was irrelevant as far
as the rest of the story. Perhaps if the myth were about a 'golden
camel' they might have had Jason sailing to Egypt or someplace else in
North Africa, a source of camels.
Sauce of Camels?
Is that near the Sauce of the Nile?
Sauce of camels? That's what Egyptians put on their flat bread.
That's a pitta...
Pita Piper picked a peck of pickled ... camels?
....peckers.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Some Myths Turn Out to Be True - After a Fashion! |
27 Aug 2007 10:03:27 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:05:38 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net>
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Afarensis at www.scienceblogs.com tells an interesting tale of the
golden fleece:
http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
Budikka
My grandfather told me about this a long time ago.
He was born in Bendigo, Australia, a thriving gold mining area at the
time.
(With abundant sheep)
Penniless gold-panners regularly used fleeces as a gravity gold trap.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Some Myths Turn Out to Be True - After a Fashion! |
27 Aug 2007 05:28:19 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:05:38 -0700, in alt.atheism , Budikka666
<budikka1@netscape.net> in
<1188252338.353601.302460@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Afarensis at www.scienceblogs.com tells an interesting tale of the
golden fleece:
http://tinyurl.com/2f2y4u
I am not sure I see the connection to Jason. Seems like a classic
just-so story.
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Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
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http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
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