"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
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Greywolf explained :

"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
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Greywolf explained on 3/9/2007 :

"*nemo*" <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote in message
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Over the past 8 months now, my group of friends and I who make up the
Piedmont Freethought Association in North Carolina have been the target
of a local Calvinist "pastor" who appears to be seriously obsessed with
me and the group. Check out his blog and see how many posts are written
about us:

http://multifaceted-christianity.blogspot.com/

This guy is seriously creepy and refuses to move on with his life. He
even posted a photo of me with Richard Dawkins' head Photoshopped in
place of mine! We're doing our best to move on, ourselves, but what can
one do when they keep showing up?

-- Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002

*snip* ONLY to really highlight the following....

In the end we atheists
and moderate Christians *do* share a common bond. It is the desire that
'good' prevail over 'evil'.

I think that could be expanded to cover muslims and jews too.

Oh so right! (Forgive me for getting back to this post and your comments
so late. It has gotten even more grim out here.)

Our differences of opinion with the moderate
Christian are just that -- a difference of opinion. We just have to work
together to battle the 'dark' forces of religious fanaticism. All too
often
it is members of the religious right who are exhibiting an 'evil'
nature. It
is evil masquerading as 'righteousness'. It is *they* who are the
'wolves in
sheep's clothing'. (How's *that* for irony?)

Lovely!

Though I agreed with virtually every statement you made, the above
section particularly struck me. To bond with others (ignoring their
religious persuasion) who sincerely want "good" to prevail over "evil
would create a force which could remold societies across the world.

My small group of whistleblowers - an atheist, three moderate christians,
one fundamentalist (Phew, is she!), one New Ager, two whose religious
views are undetermined (just has never ever come up in any discussion of
anything) and me (a wavering theist)... yet we banded to "fight evil".

And that's *exactly* what it is. Where the 'offended parties' get off
acting so indignant is beyond me. Surely they are aware that what they did
was despicable. And like my situation out here, one has to ask: Where's
the remorse? Where's that Christian desire to 'atone' and 'repent' for
doing wrong. Where's that 'fear' of the 'Lord'? Where's that guilty
conscience?

I have had to come to the conclusion that some people just don't "see" what
they are doing is wrong.

That is *precisely* the situation out here. I've repeatedly told the
'Catholic with a conscience' that by 'going along' with the perverted
treatment I am on the receiving end of, they are all just as 'guilty'. More
over, that they are violating their own religious principles and directives.
That just bounces off him (and his phony, female 'pretend supporter'
employee) as though he were a concrete wall.
(What *really* slays me is that he *saw* my heels with his own eyes, and, as
far as I know, *didn't* bother to call his 'friend', Representative Mursau
and speak to him about getting a nurse or some other medical professional to
come out here and examine my heels -- as far as I know. I know that the
female employee did, but I'm almost certain that *he* did not. Having said
that, he *has* been helping by bringing out food and water. I believe he also
had a hand in getting that new furnace installed. But I also believe that he
is -- whether consciously or not -- helping with some 'damage control' and
'covering up' what I've reported to the 'authorities' about out here.) I
think he is presently playing 'both sides of the fence'. I just wish he would
adhere to his religious principles in this instance and do everything in his
power to stir up the community in a revolt against my 'criminal', sadistic
and depraved tormenters and change things for the better. But of course, he
won't. Oh, he recognizes that what is going on is 'wrong'. But I believe it's
'okay' in his eyes because I *am* an atheist. He can't *possibly* fear that
if he (or on of his female employees) took me, say, 'real' grocery shopping;
to a 'Piggly-Wiggly', for example, that he (or she) would get 'mowed down' or
'wasted' for this 'violation' of the rules pertaining to my 'captivity'
without express approval. His mind knows that won't happen. But he, nor
anyone else, will take me *anywhere* because that would constitute a
'breaking of the ranks' with these deviates.

I cannot comprehend this mindset - but I
believe now it exists. If they want it, it is "right" - no doubting, no
guilty consciences. My mind absorbed such information about the criminal
mind, but my "heart" never quite believed it. Now I believe it right down
to my toes. Some people are amoral and no appeal to their religion (if
any), consciences, or sense of honor, right, etc. will make any kind of
impression on them.

And so you now know I am doomed. It is now two and a half years since the
fire and these people are not showing any signs of letting me 'off the hook'
or 'calling off the dogs'. These people want me to die. But, then again, they
don't. They'll just wait until I commit suicide, feel a momentary sense of
'loss', then go about their business as if I were never even here. My Indiana
'brother' -- or the County -- will take over the property, and everyone will
be happy. The *bonus*? They've ridded the community of an atheist firebrand
in the process. (Talk about having your cake and eating it *too*!)

My suffering will have *mercifully* come to an end, too! Now how much better
of a 'happy ending' can you *get*?!

When we discuss tactics, offer support, or receive
support, religion is rarely mentioned. LOL One moderate christian is
convinced "God is guiding us".... the fundamentalist tells us she prays
for the rest of us daily ... but we work together despite the spectrum of
belief to non-belief we cover. We are going to make a change in our
small community.

Damn *Great*!!

I'd say it's a rather big one, myself. You and your 'posse' are helping to
instill an 'attitude' that corruption and playing 'funny' with the truth
by so-called 'leaders' in the community will not be tolerated; that
'white-washing' and covering up less than honorable behavior will no
longer be accepted as 'business as usual'.

If that could be expanded - community by community,
state by state, nation by nation.....

Dang! If enough people shared you and your 'posse's' attitude and *acted*
upon it, people *could* help to eradicate the kind of 'skank' behavior
local community leaders of guilty of exhibiting. The low-life!

The key is getting the "right" people in contact with each other ... we
nine just accidentally came together.

Yes, things like that *do* take a little 'luck', don't they? *That* has been
the 'missing ingredient' in my fight out here. No 'magic dust' for this
warrior, I'm afraid. None at all.

If we hadn't, the agency would
be going along operating "as usual". To effect change, the "right" people
have to unite somehow.

And you have the bark on your hide and talent *to* provide just that 'unity',
*too*, sugar-bear.

Pang - sipping special tea and waxing mellow... or is that waning mellow?
Yellowing mellow? *giggle*

Sounds as if a certain somebody is getting a little *too* fond of her
special 'brew'. But what the hell, beats being depressed and demoralized
as all get-out, doesn't it?

Yes - it helps. And no bad side-effects like the Ativan!

Hate adding more 'negativity' to the bon-fire. (And I am not sure if it
posted. Did it post?) But my liver (or something) has swollen to the point
that it is quite noticible on my right side. After giving it further thought,
I really don't believe it's the result of taking that obscenely expensive
medicine I've been taking for that feet 'infection' I acquired. I discussed
my severe alcoholism of years past with my new personal physician. There is
no way that noble dude would prescribe a medicine that could cause me liver
damage. I don't know what the swelling is about, but I'm not going to
attribute it to the taking of the medicine tablets -- at least for now.

Final 'added insult to injury'? The medical bills that are starting to
accumulate due to the depraved and sadistic treatment at the hands of these
retarded 'Christians' out here *and* their heartless 'Messiah', Douche-Bag
Miron. And *you*, the taxpayer, is picking up part of that 'tab' for him!
Aren't you pleased as punch for having the 'honor' of doing so?!

Greywolf

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 06:38:01 -0700, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
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Michael Gray explained on 3/10/2007 :

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:46:20 -0700, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn.502e7d7354b750ee.64065@att.net>

Greywolf explained on 3/9/2007 :

"*nemo*" <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:nemo0037-59782B.06025009032007@news.west.earthlink.net...

Over the past 8 months now, my group of friends and I who make up the
Piedmont Freethought Association in North Carolina have been the target
of a local Calvinist "pastor" who appears to be seriously obsessed with
me and the group. Check out his blog and see how many posts are written
about us:

http://multifaceted-christianity.blogspot.com/

This guy is seriously creepy and refuses to move on with his life. He
even posted a photo of me with Richard Dawkins' head Photoshopped in
place of mine! We're doing our best to move on, ourselves, but what can
one do when they keep showing up?

-- Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002

*snip* ONLY to really highlight the following....

In the end we atheists
and moderate Christians *do* share a common bond. It is the desire that
'good' prevail over 'evil'.

I think that could be expanded to cover muslims and jews too.

Except that they are held to staggeringly opposite views on the
definitions of "good" and "evil" from that of the average atheist.
Almost diametrically opposed.

Read the O.T. if you do not know what I mean.

I was thinking of the most commonly shared "evils" - white collar
thieves, sexual predators, abusers, etc. Surely jews and muslims see
these as "evils"?

On the contrary. These are considered virtues.
Take the status of females in Islamic societies, or the insistence
upon non-consensual mutilation of minors.
What you and I see as unconscionable abuse, they see as desirable,
nay: essential behaviour, proscribed by their religion.
There are hundreds of such horrific examples.

As for reading the OT, I'd rather read Steven King, or Dean Koontz,
Lovecraft, etc. They don't expect me to take their stories as truths.

Quite! :)