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"Broderick Neilsen" |
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03 Sep 2005 06:12:52 PM |
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Someday... |
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
Life is short
Death is certain
Sin the cause
Christ the solution
- Baptist Saviours of Tennesse
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Someday... |
05 Sep 2005 10:34:29 PM |
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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 22:36:18 -0400, "Charles R. Kaiser"
<ckaiser@aci.on.ca> drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism
beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
Douglas Berry wrote:
OK, and an all powerful God couldn't just say "stop, itys no longer
needed"? You are acting like there was some higher law that even your
God was forced to follow. Look at your wording... sacrifices that
were required, and the only way to stop them was another sacrifice?
In a sense, that's what he did. Because Jesus *WAS* God and he offered
himself as a gift to be accepted by mankind as a way toward salvation.
Sorry, but an all powerful ruler of the universe needs to get tortured
to change the rules? That makes no sense whatsoever. None at all.
sorry, doesn't work.
Works for me.
Do you believe in Santa Claus too?
An all-powerful deity would have no need for such a gesture. Simply
saying "you're forgiven, for I have said so" would be enough.
You are only forgiven if you accept the "gift" of his sacrifice.
Ah. The abusive partner motif shows up again.. "I love you
unconditionally, unless of course you break my rules, in which case
I'll beat the crap out of you.
Your god has the ethics of an abusive parent.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever
believes in him should not perish but have eternal life."
John 3:16 ESV
OK, so you can quote a book. Very nice. Here, I can do it too.
Matthew 10:21 "And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death,
and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their
parents, and cause them to be put to death."
Matthew 10:37 "He that loveth father or mother more than me is not
worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not
worthy of me."
Egotisitcal cult leader. David Koresh, Jim Jones, all the great crazy
cult leaders told their followers the same thing "cut yourself off
from your families, love only me." This Jesus person is just as bad.
Notice how many places he gets thrown out of in the Gospels?
So, if this is the case, why do Christians mourn? Why do they fight
death? I would think being diagnosed with terminal cancewr would
cause someone with your world view to sing and dance in the streets!
After all, that diagnosis means that you'll be in Heaven soon, right?
And within an eye blink, all yopur loved ones will join you?
Please explain why Christians mourn, and treat funerals as sad
occasions, please.
Not all Christians treat funerals as sad occasions. Many are quite
joyous celebrations of lives lived to the fullest. But you are right
that many are quite sad, but that should not be the the way it should
be! It is natural and human to mourn, but it should be seen more as an
"until I see you again" rather than a "goodbye forever!" People in my
family cry at funerals for the same reason that they cry at the airport.
Sorry, the only joyful funerals I've ever been to are for pagans and
atheists. Every Christian ceremony I've been to has been dreary,
depressing, and frankly dull.
I can't speak for all Christians, I can only speak for the ones that I
know. None that I know fear death, but none will rush toward it
needlessly either. I am sure that I will go in the Lord's good time,
and there is nothing that I can do to change it.
I've been in two wars, survived cancer, and am an atheist. I don't
fear death either, even though I expect that will be the end of me as
an entity. You comfort yourself with stories (that you can't prove)
that you'll somehow be rewarded by the Abusive Parent in the Sky.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed
substance;
in your book were written, every
one of them,
the days that were formed for me,
when as yet there were none
of them.
So, you don't believe in free will then? We're just puppets, acting
out the script that your God preordained? If that is the case, the
concept of eternal punishment is doubly evil. If all my actions were
already recorded before I was born, I had no say in them. My decision
to have a Coke just now was not mine, but something a deity had
decided on long ago.
Pretty sick world view there.
If my view of the universe turns out to be 100% wrong, I have lost
nothing, but I have gained peace and happiness here on earth for myself
and my family and many other friends. Hopefully I have helped others
along the way both through charitable giving, good works and through
mentorship. I'll never know. . . I guess that death will just be the
end. . . Just like turning off a light. Right?
If my view of the universe is right. . .
Ah, Pascal's wager.
OK, let me ask you a few questions, what if..
The Muslims are right?
The Hindus are right?
The Buddhists are right?
The Jews are right?
The Wiccans are right?
The Asaratu (followers of the Old Norse Gods) are right?
The Ancient Egyptians were right?
A tiny tribe in the upper reaches of the Amazon are the only people
with the correct religion?
What if surfing is the One True Religion, and only longboarders go to
heaven? (Tip o' the hat to alt.surfing. No idea why you guys were
added to this mess.)
"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and
lose his own soul?" Mark 8:36 KJV
Prove to me the existence of a soul.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Surfer Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Someday... |
06 Sep 2005 11:42:19 AM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
What if surfing is the One True Religion, and only longboarders go to
heaven?
FWIW, shortboarders tend to be rather more messianic than longboarders.
But I appreciate your point.
(Tip o' the hat to alt.surfing. No idea why you guys were
added to this mess.)
Polite tip o' the hat back to you DB. It's the classic flamebait
gambit: post an inflammatory message to a very disparate list of
groups, then sit back and laugh while the disparate strangers fight
amongst themselves. Har dee har har and har again. It was a fresh and
original idea somewhere back in the very early '90s.
Now back to the catfight...
Surfer Bob
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| User: "Dr Walpurgis" |
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| Title: Re: Someday... |
06 Sep 2005 01:46:30 PM |
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Sackless Bob wrote:
Polite tip o' the hat back to you DB. It's the classic flamebait
gambit: post an inflammatory message to a very disparate list of
groups, then sit back and laugh while the disparate strangers fight
amongst themselves. Har dee har har and har again. It was a fresh and
original idea somewhere back in the very early '90s.
No *****.
But if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
*PLONK*
--
"We like to think of ourselves as evolved (particularly Walpurgis, his
unwavering obsession with clunky cheap Italian horror films and hating
all Americans seems to be somehow justifiable as he is unquestionably
the best and the brightest of all True Scholars)." - Gritz, 20/03/05
Now playing: http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/drwalpurgis/
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| User: "Broderick Neilsen" |
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| Title: Re: Someday... |
13 Sep 2005 01:46:57 PM |
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Surfer Bob wrote:
Polite tip o' the hat back to you DB. It's the classic flamebait
gambit: post an inflammatory message to a very disparate list of
groups, then sit back and laugh while the disparate strangers fight
amongst themselves. Har dee har har and har again. It was a fresh and
original idea somewhere back in the very early '90s.
but it worked!!!!!!! hah hah hah hah suckers!!! you took the bait!!!
come on, broderick neilsen???? did you really totally believe this was
serious? LOL You people are great! donb't ever change, seriously.
brodie neilsen
Baptist Saviours of Tennesse(e)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Someday... |
08 Sep 2005 07:38:27 PM |
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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:27:01 -0400, "Charles R. Kaiser"
<ckaiser@aci.on.ca> wrote:
erikc wrote:
If that is the case, then why did jesus die? And the pope?
Jesus died to end the need for constant sacrifice as called for in the
Old Testament.
The mythical Jesus died for his own crimes and hypocrisy.
[snip drooling bronze-age idiocy]
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: Someday... |
09 Sep 2005 10:20:39 AM |
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On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:38:27 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:27:01 -0400, "Charles R. Kaiser"
<ckaiser@aci.on.ca> wrote:
erikc wrote:
If that is the case, then why did jesus die? And the pope?
Jesus died to end the need for constant sacrifice as called for in the
Old Testament.
The mythical Jesus died for his own crimes and hypocrisy.
[snip drooling bronze-age idiocy]
I wonder why there was "a need for constant sacrifice". Who needed
it? It certainly could not have been an omnipotent god.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Someday... |
10 Sep 2005 11:31:16 PM |
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:20:39 +0200, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:38:27 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:27:01 -0400, "Charles R. Kaiser"
<ckaiser@aci.on.ca> wrote:
erikc wrote:
If that is the case, then why did jesus die? And the pope?
Jesus died to end the need for constant sacrifice as called for in the
Old Testament.
The mythical Jesus died for his own crimes and hypocrisy.
[snip drooling bronze-age idiocy]
I wonder why there was "a need for constant sacrifice". Who needed
it? It certainly could not have been an omnipotent god.
Correct. It would, however, be needed by an omni-impotent god.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Dr. Hardcrab" |
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| Title: Re: Someday... |
04 Sep 2005 07:31:51 AM |
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"Broderick Neilsen" <baptistsaviourstenn@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1125789172.946678.205980@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
Life is short
Death is certain
Sin the cause
Christ the solution
"Hymn 43"
Oh father high in heaven -- smile down upon your son
whose busy with his money games -- his women and his gun.
Oh Jesus save me!
And the unsung Western hero killed an Indian or three
and made his name in Hollywood
to set the white man free.
Oh Jesus save me!
If Jesus saves -- well, He'd better save Himself
from the gory glory seekers who use His name in death.
Oh Jesus save me!
I saw him in the city and on the mountains of the moon --
His cross was rather bloody --
He could hardly roll His stone.
Oh Jesus save me!
"God! He stole the handle and the train it won't stop rolling no way to slow
down........"
-Dr. Hardcrab, Frisbytarian
We believe the world is flat and curved on the edges. When you die, your
soul gets stuck up on the roof and you can't get it down.......
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| User: "Alex W." |
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04 Sep 2005 07:51:50 AM |
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"Dr. Hardcrab" <drhardcrab@hotmail.SPAMcom> wrote in message
news:XOBSe.3762$9q4.2484@trnddc08...
"Broderick Neilsen" <baptistsaviourstenn@excite.com> wrote in
message
news:1125789172.946678.205980@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
Life is short
Death is certain
Sin the cause
Christ the solution
"Hymn 43"
Oh father high in heaven -- smile down upon your son
"Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?"
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| User: "Dr. Hardcrab" |
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04 Sep 2005 08:09:49 AM |
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"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3o08vbF3iagkU1@individual.net...
"Dr. Hardcrab" <drhardcrab@hotmail.SPAMcom> wrote in message
news:XOBSe.3762$9q4.2484@trnddc08...
"Broderick Neilsen" <baptistsaviourstenn@excite.com> wrote in
message
news:1125789172.946678.205980@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
Life is short
Death is certain
Sin the cause
Christ the solution
"Hymn 43"
Oh father high in heaven -- smile down upon your son
"Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?"
Why?
Do all of your friends drive Porches?
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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04 Sep 2005 09:01:53 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 13:09:49 GMT in alt.atheism, Dr. Hardcrab ("Dr.
Hardcrab" <drhardcrab@hotmail.SPAMcom>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3o08vbF3iagkU1@individual.net...
"Dr. Hardcrab" <drhardcrab@hotmail.SPAMcom> wrote in message
news:XOBSe.3762$9q4.2484@trnddc08...
"Broderick Neilsen" <baptistsaviourstenn@excite.com> wrote in
message
news:1125789172.946678.205980@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
Life is short
Death is certain
Sin the cause
Christ the solution
"Hymn 43"
Oh father high in heaven -- smile down upon your son
"Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?"
Why?
Do all of your friends drive Porches?
Clearly he must make amends.
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| User: "To The Top" |
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04 Sep 2005 09:23:08 AM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:0ivlh199aj6ap1ags4iff0phubug3gdp1s@4ax.com...
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 13:09:49 GMT in alt.atheism, Dr. Hardcrab ("Dr.
Hardcrab" <drhardcrab@hotmail.SPAMcom>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3o08vbF3iagkU1@individual.net...
"Dr. Hardcrab" <drhardcrab@hotmail.SPAMcom> wrote in message
news:XOBSe.3762$9q4.2484@trnddc08...
"Broderick Neilsen" <baptistsaviourstenn@excite.com> wrote in
message
news:1125789172.946678.205980@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
Life is short
Death is certain
Sin the cause
Christ the solution
"Hymn 43"
Oh father high in heaven -- smile down upon your son
"Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?"
Why?
Do all of your friends drive Porches?
Clearly he must make amends.
Besides, it's more expensive to mend a Mercedes when its sick.
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| User: "Alex W." |
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04 Sep 2005 08:18:00 AM |
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"Dr. Hardcrab" <drhardcrab@hotmail.SPAMcom> wrote in message
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"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Dr. Hardcrab" <drhardcrab@hotmail.SPAMcom> wrote in message
news:XOBSe.3762$9q4.2484@trnddc08...
"Broderick Neilsen" <baptistsaviourstenn@excite.com> wrote in
message
news:1125789172.946678.205980@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
Life is short
Death is certain
Sin the cause
Christ the solution
"Hymn 43"
Oh father high in heaven -- smile down upon your son
"Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?"
Why?
Do all of your friends drive Porches?
"That's not a Porch, that's a Ferrari."
Sorry, had to be said.
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| User: "Dr. Hardcrab" |
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04 Sep 2005 08:19:04 AM |
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"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Dr. Hardcrab" <drhardcrab@hotmail.SPAMcom> wrote in message
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"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Dr. Hardcrab" <drhardcrab@hotmail.SPAMcom> wrote in message
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"Broderick Neilsen" <baptistsaviourstenn@excite.com> wrote in
message
news:1125789172.946678.205980@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
Life is short
Death is certain
Sin the cause
Christ the solution
"Hymn 43"
Oh father high in heaven -- smile down upon your son
"Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?"
Why?
Do all of your friends drive Porches?
"That's not a Porch, that's a Ferrari."
Sorry, had to be said.
Boris??
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| User: "Pastor Keczup" |
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04 Sep 2005 04:59:28 AM |
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Broderick Neilsen wrote:
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
Life is short
Death is certain
You got that bit right, so stop wastying it believing in fairy stories.
It make it a total waste of time, and you a total waste of space.
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| User: "Hakk" |
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03 Sep 2005 09:45:11 PM |
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Broderick Neilsen wrote:
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
Life is short
Death is certain
Sin the cause
Christ the solution
- Baptist Saviours of Tennesse
I used to go to church. Now I dont. Does that mean I will go to hell? If
I go to Hell, does that mean I wasted all those times I went to
Church? If so, what does that mean? Am I a bad person? Why am I a bad
person? I always tried to be a good person.
Oh I hate myself now.
Good job I will die soon
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| User: "Hakks personal Cthulhu" |
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04 Sep 2005 05:08:37 AM |
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Cometh the hour, cometh Hakk <hakkmj-xbox@yahoo.co.uk>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:
Good job I will die soon
tortured souls are tough and taste rather sour. Please make sure you
die happy.
Love
Cthulhu
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| User: "Olrik" |
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03 Sep 2005 11:06:14 PM |
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Broderick Neilsen wrote:
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
Life is short
Death is certain
Sin the cause
Christ the solution
- Baptist Saviours of Tennesse
This crap is also posted to :
alt.surfing, alt.horror, alt.smokers.cigars, alt.games.video.xbox
A sure indicator of a troll.
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| User: "The White Gentleman" |
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04 Sep 2005 04:15:49 AM |
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Broderick Neilsen wrote:
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
Life is short
Death is certain
Sin the cause
Christ the solution
I agree 100%. Yeah, no *****. I do. Really. That is the thought every
person oughta have in their heart. Substitute Christ for Buddha or
Allah or Jehovah, whatever. Get with God. Save the dolphins. Save the
pandas. Save the cats. Blah blah blah. Kill all the stupid and vicious
people painlessly. Start over. Because if all the stupid people died,
there's only be a few thousand left.
If there was a god, he would have killed all the wrong people
already. There is no God. But you have to believe in God anyway,
because he's all we have. Get that? Hello? It's called common sense and
decency, it will help you. Give me a grand, so I can start the Church
of the Abandoned Christ.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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03 Sep 2005 06:33:53 PM |
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Broderick Neilsen wrote:
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
If there is a God (and I see no reason to believe that there is), then
I'm positive that he'd be above pettiness and childish displays of
affection.
You, Broderick, are dumbing down God so he would speak at your level. I
doubt God would like this... if he existed, that is.
Life is short
Death is certain
Sin the cause
Christ the solution
Unless there is another solution and Christ was created by The Great
Deceiver in order to make more bloody wars than anything else... The
Great Deceiver seems to be winning...
- Baptist Saviours of Tennesse
So, how much did the "Baptist Saviours of Tennesse" give to the
Hurricane Katrina Relief Effort?
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| User: "Grinder" |
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03 Sep 2005 06:44:54 PM |
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Broderick Neilsen wrote:
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
DanielSan wrote:
If there is a God (and I see no reason to believe that there is), then
I'm positive that he'd be above pettiness and childish displays of
affection.
Not if He's as described in the Old Testament.
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| User: "Mattinglyfan" |
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04 Sep 2005 02:23:13 PM |
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"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
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Broderick Neilsen wrote:
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
DanielSan wrote:
If there is a God (and I see no reason to believe that there is), then
I'm positive that he'd be above pettiness and childish displays of
affection.
Not if He's as described in the Old Testament.
But he is also described in the New Testament and it would indicate that he
would be above that.
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| User: "Grinder" |
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04 Sep 2005 04:19:11 PM |
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Mattinglyfan wrote:
"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
news:WzqSe.325737$xm3.238640@attbi_s21...
Broderick Neilsen wrote:
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
DanielSan wrote:
If there is a God (and I see no reason to believe that there is), then
I'm positive that he'd be above pettiness and childish displays of
affection.
Not if He's as described in the Old Testament.
But he is also described in the New Testament and it would indicate that he
would be above that.
Surely the bible wouldn't conflict itself?
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| User: "Alex W." |
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04 Sep 2005 06:23:32 PM |
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"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
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Mattinglyfan wrote:
"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
news:WzqSe.325737$xm3.238640@attbi_s21...
Broderick Neilsen wrote:
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
DanielSan wrote:
If there is a God (and I see no reason to believe that there is),
then
I'm positive that he'd be above pettiness and childish displays
of
affection.
Not if He's as described in the Old Testament.
But he is also described in the New Testament and it would
indicate that he
would be above that.
Surely the bible wouldn't conflict itself?
Yes, it would ... and don't call me Shirley.
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04 Sep 2005 10:19:08 PM |
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"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3o1dviF3pm50U1@individual.net...
"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
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Mattinglyfan wrote:
"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
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Broderick Neilsen wrote:
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
DanielSan wrote:
If there is a God (and I see no reason to believe that there is),
then
I'm positive that he'd be above pettiness and childish displays
of
affection.
Not if He's as described in the Old Testament.
But he is also described in the New Testament and it would
indicate that he
would be above that.
Surely the bible wouldn't conflict itself?
Yes, it would ... and don't call me Shirley.
Do you like gladiator movies? ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "stoney" |
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08 Sep 2005 07:24:54 PM |
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On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 23:19:08 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3o1dviF3pm50U1@individual.net...
"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
news:jxJSe.308533$x96.259209@attbi_s72...
Mattinglyfan wrote:
"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
news:WzqSe.325737$xm3.238640@attbi_s21...
Broderick Neilsen wrote:
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
DanielSan wrote:
If there is a God (and I see no reason to believe that there is),
then
I'm positive that he'd be above pettiness and childish displays
of
affection.
Not if He's as described in the Old Testament.
But he is also described in the New Testament and it would
indicate that he
would be above that.
Surely the bible wouldn't conflict itself?
Yes, it would ... and don't call me Shirley.
Do you like gladiator movies? ;)
Glad-he-ate-her movies?
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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04 Sep 2005 11:02:43 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3o1dviF3pm50U1@individual.net...
"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
news:jxJSe.308533$x96.259209@attbi_s72...
Mattinglyfan wrote:
"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
news:WzqSe.325737$xm3.238640@attbi_s21...
Broderick Neilsen wrote:
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
DanielSan wrote:
If there is a God (and I see no reason to believe that there is),
then
I'm positive that he'd be above pettiness and childish displays
of
affection.
Not if He's as described in the Old Testament.
But he is also described in the New Testament and it would
indicate that he
would be above that.
Surely the bible wouldn't conflict itself?
Yes, it would ... and don't call me Shirley.
Do you like gladiator movies? ;)
I speak jive.
"Jes' hang loose, blood. She gonna catch ya up on the med side."
"What it is, big mamma? My mamma no raise no dummies; I dug her rap."
"Cut me some slack, Jack. Chump don' wan' no help, chump don' get da help."
"Say 'e can hang, say seven up!"
"Jive ***** dude don' got no brains anyhow."
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* "If God had intended us to walk, he wouldn't *
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| User: "atheist@home" |
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04 Sep 2005 08:09:02 PM |
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On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 00:23:32 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
news:jxJSe.308533$x96.259209@attbi_s72...
Mattinglyfan wrote:
"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
news:WzqSe.325737$xm3.238640@attbi_s21...
Broderick Neilsen wrote:
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
DanielSan wrote:
If there is a God (and I see no reason to believe that there is),
then
I'm positive that he'd be above pettiness and childish displays
of
affection.
Not if He's as described in the Old Testament.
But he is also described in the New Testament and it would
indicate that he
would be above that.
Surely the bible wouldn't conflict itself?
Yes, it would ... and don't call me Shirley.
Cigarette?
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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03 Sep 2005 06:57:23 PM |
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Grinder wrote:
Broderick Neilsen wrote:
Someday you will stand before GOD. How will He judge you?
DanielSan wrote:
If there is a God (and I see no reason to believe that there is), then
I'm positive that he'd be above pettiness and childish displays of
affection.
Not if He's as described in the Old Testament.
Well, that depends on if you use the OT or not. I, myself, consider
both Old and New Testaments simply stories designed to keep the riffraff
at bay with threats of ultimate punishment for misdeeds.
Personally, I take as much stock in the Bible as I do "Harry Potter."
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "If God had intended us to walk, he wouldn't *
* have invented roller skates." --Willy Wonka *
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| User: "Doug Jacobs" |
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07 Sep 2005 05:04:24 PM |
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In alt.games.video.xbox DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Well, that depends on if you use the OT or not. I, myself, consider
both Old and New Testaments simply stories designed to keep the riffraff
at bay with threats of ultimate punishment for misdeeds.
It's not supposed to work that way though... If you're only "behaving"
because you're afraid of the consequences, you're really no more than a
dog that's been trained not to pee on the rug, lest you get a newspaper
across the nose.
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