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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Amangi Machque"
Date: 12 Mar 2006 05:50:33 PM
Object: Something to ponder.
'If god didn't want sinners, why were Jews alone given the Law? Were the
rest of humanity always doomed?' (SIN -Drowning Humanity in Guilt & Fear;
Kenneth Humphreys)
--
Machque
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past, Wisdom is of the
future." Lumbee
"The one who tells the stories rules the world." Hopi
"Sing your death song and die like a hero going home." Shawnee
.

User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Something to ponder. 13 Mar 2006 08:59:57 AM
"Amangi Machque" <bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net> wrote in message
news:bIadnd61961ULonZ4p2dnA@comcast.com...

'If god didn't want sinners, why were Jews alone given the Law? Were the
rest of humanity always doomed?' (SIN -Drowning Humanity in Guilt & Fear;
Kenneth Humphreys)

Um, why would I want to waste time pondering that?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
.

User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"

Title: Re: Something to ponder. 13 Mar 2006 12:05:04 AM
Amangi Machque wrote:

'If god didn't want sinners, why were Jews alone given the Law? Were the
rest of humanity always doomed?' (SIN -Drowning Humanity in Guilt & Fear;
Kenneth Humphreys)

Ah, Ken and his wonderful website. I looooove it ;)
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Something to ponder. 12 Mar 2006 11:21:32 PM
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:50:33 -0500, "Amangi Machque"
<bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net> wrote:
- Refer: <bIadnd61961ULonZ4p2dnA@comcast.com>

'If god didn't want sinners, why were Jews alone given the Law? Were the
rest of humanity always doomed?' (SIN -Drowning Humanity in Guilt & Fear;
Kenneth Humphreys)

Thousands of tribes around the globe claim that they were given "the
law".
What is this ignorant loony talking about?
.
User: "wbarwell"

Title: Re: Something to ponder. 13 Mar 2006 03:24:53 PM
Michael Gray wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:50:33 -0500, "Amangi Machque"
<bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net> wrote:
- Refer: <bIadnd61961ULonZ4p2dnA@comcast.com>

'If god didn't want sinners, why were Jews alone given the Law? Were the
rest of humanity always doomed?' (SIN -Drowning Humanity in Guilt & Fear;
Kenneth Humphreys)


Thousands of tribes around the globe claim that they were given "the
law".
What is this ignorant loony talking about?


The bible.
God supposedly hates sin.
Yet never appears to man to show man how to avoid
offending god with sin with sinful acts.
The only time god is shown to appear to man is in the
case of the Jews. And he offers them a series of inferior
rules only after they leave Egypt (according to myth)
on their way to kill all the Canaanites.
Why then does god not appear to Egyptians, or Canaanites
or anybody else to give them a moral code that allows
these peoples to avoid sin and offending god?
When you think of what the bible really says, it
becomes more monstrous by the verse, and utterly
contradicts the stuoid and false claims the bible
proves god is a merciful, loving god.
These myths are stupid an false, yet nobody ever
seems to notice just how false these claims are
compared with the mythology.
If god so loved man where was he all this time and
why did he not appear to all mankind?
This is a question no xian can answer honestly.
--
So you want to fight the Master!
First you must fight my brother Chang!
Cheerful Charlie
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Something to ponder. 13 Mar 2006 09:17:21 PM
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:24:53 -0600, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <121bod47gcf1sb8@corp.supernews.com>

Michael Gray wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:50:33 -0500, "Amangi Machque"
<bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net> wrote:
- Refer: <bIadnd61961ULonZ4p2dnA@comcast.com>

'If god didn't want sinners, why were Jews alone given the Law? Were the
rest of humanity always doomed?' (SIN -Drowning Humanity in Guilt & Fear;
Kenneth Humphreys)


Thousands of tribes around the globe claim that they were given "the
law".
What is this ignorant loony talking about?


The bible.

God supposedly hates sin.
Yet never appears to man to show man how to avoid
offending god with sin with sinful acts.
The only time god is shown to appear to man is in the
case of the Jews. And he offers them a series of inferior
rules only after they leave Egypt (according to myth)
on their way to kill all the Canaanites.

Why then does god not appear to Egyptians, or Canaanites
or anybody else to give them a moral code that allows
these peoples to avoid sin and offending god?

When you think of what the bible really says, it
becomes more monstrous by the verse, and utterly
contradicts the stuoid and false claims the bible
proves god is a merciful, loving god.

These myths are stupid an false, yet nobody ever
seems to notice just how false these claims are
compared with the mythology.

If god so loved man where was he all this time and
why did he not appear to all mankind?
This is a question no xian can answer honestly.

But that implicity assumes that there is exactly one god.
Until thay can demonstrate that, any argument about it's purported
characteristics are just so much hot air.
.
User: "wbarwell"

Title: Re: Something to ponder. 14 Mar 2006 05:38:38 PM
Michael Gray wrote:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:24:53 -0600, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <121bod47gcf1sb8@corp.supernews.com>

Michael Gray wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:50:33 -0500, "Amangi Machque"
<bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net> wrote:
- Refer: <bIadnd61961ULonZ4p2dnA@comcast.com>

'If god didn't want sinners, why were Jews alone given the Law? Were the
rest of humanity always doomed?' (SIN -Drowning Humanity in Guilt &
Fear; Kenneth Humphreys)


Thousands of tribes around the globe claim that they were given "the
law".
What is this ignorant loony talking about?


The bible.

God supposedly hates sin.
Yet never appears to man to show man how to avoid
offending god with sin with sinful acts.
The only time god is shown to appear to man is in the
case of the Jews. And he offers them a series of inferior
rules only after they leave Egypt (according to myth)
on their way to kill all the Canaanites.

Why then does god not appear to Egyptians, or Canaanites
or anybody else to give them a moral code that allows
these peoples to avoid sin and offending god?

When you think of what the bible really says, it
becomes more monstrous by the verse, and utterly
contradicts the stuoid and false claims the bible
proves god is a merciful, loving god.

These myths are stupid an false, yet nobody ever
seems to notice just how false these claims are
compared with the mythology.

If god so loved man where was he all this time and
why did he not appear to all mankind?
This is a question no xian can answer honestly.


But that implicity assumes that there is exactly one god.
Until thay can demonstrate that, any argument about it's purported
characteristics are just so much hot air.


Well, no. That is not the point.
The point is, if one takes the bible as true,
god is a nasty, callous, sunuvabitch.
not at all merciful, good or just.
This needs to be smeared in the faces of
the bleater crowd who tiresomely blathers
how good and wonderful god is. He isn't.
That is the whole point of this.

Waving your hands and rolling your eyes and
proclaiming god does not exist cuts no mustard
with these ignorant bastards.
Pointing out the huge gap between what the
myths say and what the bible really says is the
first step in opening eyes and kickstarting brains.
--
So you want to fight the Master!
First you must fight my brother Chang!
Cheerful Charlie
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Something to ponder. 14 Mar 2006 10:03:52 PM
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:47:21 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:24:53 -0600, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <121bod47gcf1sb8@corp.supernews.com>

Michael Gray wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:50:33 -0500, "Amangi Machque"
<bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net> wrote:
- Refer: <bIadnd61961ULonZ4p2dnA@comcast.com>

'If god didn't want sinners, why were Jews alone given the Law? Were the
rest of humanity always doomed?' (SIN -Drowning Humanity in Guilt & Fear;
Kenneth Humphreys)


Thousands of tribes around the globe claim that they were given "the
law".
What is this ignorant loony talking about?


The bible.

God supposedly hates sin.
Yet never appears to man to show man how to avoid
offending god with sin with sinful acts.
The only time god is shown to appear to man is in the
case of the Jews. And he offers them a series of inferior
rules only after they leave Egypt (according to myth)
on their way to kill all the Canaanites.

Why then does god not appear to Egyptians, or Canaanites
or anybody else to give them a moral code that allows
these peoples to avoid sin and offending god?

When you think of what the bible really says, it
becomes more monstrous by the verse, and utterly
contradicts the stuoid and false claims the bible
proves god is a merciful, loving god.

These myths are stupid an false, yet nobody ever
seems to notice just how false these claims are
compared with the mythology.

If god so loved man where was he all this time and
why did he not appear to all mankind?
This is a question no xian can answer honestly.


But that implicity assumes that there is exactly one god.
Until thay can demonstrate that, any argument about it's purported
characteristics are just so much hot air.

The dingleberries have yet to provide a coherant and concise definition
for the effectively undefined g-o-d letter string.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.




User: "Ben Kaufman"

Title: Re: Something to ponder. 13 Mar 2006 09:17:37 PM
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:50:33 -0500, "Amangi Machque" <bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net>
wrote:

'If god didn't want sinners, why were Jews alone given the Law? Were the
rest of humanity always doomed?' (SIN -Drowning Humanity in Guilt & Fear;
Kenneth Humphreys)

Because they didn't read "Making a Good Screenplay Great" by Seger.
Ben
.


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