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"Sean C" |
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26 Nov 2004 11:59:52 PM |
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Somewhat OT: Most British 16-Year-Olds question God |
This survey, conducted by The Guardian, showed that only about 1/3 of
British 16-year-olds believe in God. This is very promising. Over 3/4
have friends of a different race. Many appear to despise Tony Blair.
Do you believe in God?
Yes 35%; no 45%; don't know 20%.
Do you have any friends of a different race?
Yes 77% (boys 69%, girls 84%); no 21% (boys 28%, girls 15%); don't know
2%
Which two do you deplore most?
Tony Blair 37%.
Prince Charles 17%.
--Sean C
The world according to 16-year olds
http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,1359414,00.html
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Sixteen-year-olds inspire intense curiosity, high hopes and nagging
fears - some of these turn out to be justified, others not. The results
of this poll are surprising, predictable, alarming, reassuring and,
overall, somehow present a likable picture. In other words,
16-year-olds are contradictory. They do eat a lot of chips, and do not
read a great many books. But most would much rather be happy than rich,
and care surprisingly little for fame or good looks. Nelson Mandela
commands more admiration than David Beckham, but politicians and
royalty trail way behind Kate Moss and Ms Dynamite in most
16-year-olds' estimation. Jordan enjoys the unusual distinction of
being both their third most admired personality, and third most
deplored. Unsurprisingly, she owes her place in the first category to
the boys, and in the second to the girls - one of the few instances of
strong gender disagreement. Three-quarters still believe in the concept
of marriage, but only a third in God.
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: Somewhat OT: Most British 16-Year-Olds question God |
27 Nov 2004 04:59:25 AM |
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Which two do you deplore most?
Tony Blair 37%.
Prince Charles 17%.
--Sean C
Eh.....that doesnt mean that they all hate Blair it means they hate him in
comparrison to Prince Charles, it you asked if they hated Blair or Bush more
then it would be a completely different story.
Kathryn
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Somewhat OT: Most British 16-Year-Olds question God |
01 Dec 2004 12:17:35 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 10:59:25 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <bob@bob.com>
wrote:
Which two do you deplore most?
Tony Blair 37%.
Prince Charles 17%.
--Sean C
Eh.....that doesnt mean that they all hate Blair it means they hate him in
comparrison to Prince Charles, it you asked if they hated Blair or Bush more
then it would be a completely different story.
errrr..../cue a burning bush?
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Somewhat OT: Most British 16-Year-Olds question God |
27 Nov 2004 02:30:46 AM |
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In article <271120040059526615%redhawk@/burnspammersalive/hvc.rr.com>,
Sean C <redhawk@/burnspammersalive/hvc.rr.com> wrote:
This survey, conducted by The Guardian, showed that only about 1/3 of
British 16-year-olds believe in God. This is very promising. Over 3/4
have friends of a different race. Many appear to despise Tony Blair.
Do you believe in God?
Yes 35%; no 45%; don't know 20%.
Do you have any friends of a different race?
Yes 77% (boys 69%, girls 84%); no 21% (boys 28%, girls 15%); don't know
2%
Which two do you deplore most?
Tony Blair 37%.
Prince Charles 17%.
Smart kids. :-)
--Sean C
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Which raises the question: Can a people that believes more fervently
in theVirgin Birth than in evolution still be called an Enlightened
nation?-Garry Wills, New York Times 11/04/04
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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27 Nov 2004 08:57:11 AM |
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:59:52 -0500, Sean C
<redhawk@/burnspammersalive/hvc.rr.com> wrote:
Do you believe in God?
Yes 35%; no 45%; don't know 20%.
Ah, tis coming along nicely. Among christians anyway. I bet the story
is very different among muslims in britain.
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| User: "Iain" |
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27 Nov 2004 10:59:58 AM |
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Sean C <redhawk@/burnspammersalive/hvc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<271120040059526615%redhawk@/burnspammersalive/hvc.rr.com>...
This survey, conducted by The Guardian, showed that only about 1/3 of
British 16-year-olds believe in God. This is very promising. Over 3/4
have friends of a different race. Many appear to despise Tony Blair.
Do you believe in God?
Yes 35%; no 45%; don't know 20%.
Theism will probably be gone or neglegable by 2060, short of the sort
of deliberate cultural revolution that Britain is famous for lacking,
~Iain
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| User: "Uncle Dollar Bill" |
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27 Nov 2004 02:24:44 PM |
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In article <6feb9a89.0411270859.6b1e7b8b@posting.google.com>,
iain_inkster@hotmail.com says...
Sean C <redhawk@/burnspammersalive/hvc.rr.com> wrote:
This survey, conducted by The Guardian, showed that only about 1/3 of
British 16-year-olds believe in God. This is very promising. Over 3/4
have friends of a different race. Many appear to despise Tony Blair.
Do you believe in God?
Yes 35%; no 45%; don't know 20%.
Theism will probably be gone or neglegable by 2060, short of the sort
of deliberate cultural revolution that Britain is famous for lacking,
On what criteria do you base your guesstimate? Just curious. I don't
think theism will be either gone _or_ negligible within our lifetimes.
Then again, I keep getting the sneaking suspicion that "within our
lifetimes" might just equal "under four years" for about everyone on the
planet. Dunno' why I feel that way, though...
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| User: "Iain" |
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| Title: Re: Somewhat OT: Most British 16-Year-Olds question God |
27 Nov 2004 07:25:10 PM |
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"Uncle Dollar Bill" <UncleDollarBill@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c12825ad342b40d98968b@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...
In article <6feb9a89.0411270859.6b1e7b8b@posting.google.com>,
iain_inkster@hotmail.com says...
Sean C <redhawk@/burnspammersalive/hvc.rr.com> wrote:
This survey, conducted by The Guardian, showed that only about 1/3 of
British 16-year-olds believe in God. This is very promising. Over 3/4
have friends of a different race. Many appear to despise Tony Blair.
Do you believe in God?
Yes 35%; no 45%; don't know 20%.
Theism will probably be gone or neglegable by 2060, short of the sort
of deliberate cultural revolution that Britain is famous for lacking,
On what criteria do you base your guesstimate? Just curious. I don't
think theism will be either gone _or_ negligible within our lifetimes.
Sorry; I meant "in Britain". I base the guesstimate on the sixteen year-old
offspring of those former sixteen year-olds, living through a similarly
dereligened culture.
~Iain
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| User: "Teresita" |
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27 Nov 2004 01:35:42 PM |
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On 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0800, (Iain) wrote:
Theism will probably be gone or neglegable by 2060, short of the sort
of deliberate cultural revolution that Britain is famous for lacking,
By 2060 the state religion of Britain will be Islam.
--
Teresita aka Ruby Redinger
http://web.newsguy.com/rubyred
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| User: "kathryn" |
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28 Nov 2004 11:19:08 AM |
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"Teresita" <teresita@dataway.com> wrote in message
news:vnlhq0pe3jf85jd1n50k3hsjctumekuc60@4ax.com...
On 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0800, (Iain) wrote:
Theism will probably be gone or neglegable by 2060, short of the sort
of deliberate cultural revolution that Britain is famous for lacking,
By 2060 the state religion of Britain will be Islam.
--
Teresita aka Ruby Redinger
http://web.newsguy.com/rubyred
So say members of the BNP
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| User: "Iain" |
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28 Nov 2004 11:26:44 AM |
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"kathryn" <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
news:cod1ac$1bg$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
"Teresita" <teresita@dataway.com> wrote in message
news:vnlhq0pe3jf85jd1n50k3hsjctumekuc60@4ax.com...
On 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0800, (Iain) wrote:
Theism will probably be gone or neglegable by 2060, short of the sort
of deliberate cultural revolution that Britain is famous for lacking,
By 2060 the state religion of Britain will be Islam.
I doubt there will be a state religion.
~Iain
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| User: "Sean C" |
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27 Nov 2004 06:43:19 PM |
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In article <vnlhq0pe3jf85jd1n50k3hsjctumekuc60@4ax.com>, Teresita
<teresita@dataway.com> wrote:
On 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0800, (Iain) wrote:
Theism will probably be gone or neglegable by 2060, short of the sort
of deliberate cultural revolution that Britain is famous for lacking,
By 2060 the state religion of Britain will be Islam.
Even if Islam itself survives by that time most remaining Muslims will
be assimilated in British society, and many will go no doubt become
atheists as the huge pressure to conform to Islam some currently face
relents.
"Within a couple of generations," he says, "Muslims will lose their
cultural baggage. Indian and Pakistani ways will disappear. They will
adopt western cultural values and the whole community will be brought
together as British Muslims." --Zaki Badawi, British Muslim leader.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,874822,00.html
Expect a bumper crop of Rushdies.
Sean C
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| User: "stoney" |
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01 Dec 2004 12:18:55 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 19:43:19 -0500, Sean C
<redhawk@/burnspammersalive/hvc.rr.com> wrote:
In article <vnlhq0pe3jf85jd1n50k3hsjctumekuc60@4ax.com>, Teresita
<teresita@dataway.com> wrote:
On 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0800, (Iain) wrote:
Theism will probably be gone or neglegable by 2060, short of the sort
of deliberate cultural revolution that Britain is famous for lacking,
By 2060 the state religion of Britain will be Islam.
Even if Islam itself survives by that time most remaining Muslims will
be assimilated in British society, and many will go no doubt become
atheists as the huge pressure to conform to Islam some currently face
relents.
"Within a couple of generations," he says, "Muslims will lose their
cultural baggage. Indian and Pakistani ways will disappear. They will
adopt western cultural values and the whole community will be brought
together as British Muslims." --Zaki Badawi, British Muslim leader.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,874822,00.html
Expect a bumper crop of Rushdies.
/cue McJihad's for a Whopper.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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27 Nov 2004 04:49:50 PM |
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Teresita wrote:
On 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0800, (Iain) wrote:
Theism will probably be gone or neglegable by 2060, short of the sort
of deliberate cultural revolution that Britain is famous for lacking,
By 2060 the state religion of Britain will be Islam.
How ignorant. Its will be Atheism at this rate.
Numerically speaking the Atheists already are winning.
Less than one out of five Brits now think Jesus was in
some fashion, divine.
Moslems will be a small minority.
--
Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Teresita" |
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27 Nov 2004 07:10:50 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:49:50 -0500, wbarwell
<wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
Teresita wrote:
On 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0800, (Iain) wrote:
Theism will probably be gone or neglegable by 2060, short of the sort
of deliberate cultural revolution that Britain is famous for lacking,
By 2060 the state religion of Britain will be Islam.
How ignorant. Its will be Atheism at this rate.
Numerically speaking the Atheists already are winning.
Less than one out of five Brits now think Jesus was in
some fashion, divine.
Moslems will be a small minority.
Britain could have zero out of five Brits who think Jesus was in some
fashion divine, yet have five out of five Brits as Moslem.
--
Teresita aka Ruby Redinger
http://web.newsguy.com/rubyred
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| User: "Iain" |
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29 Nov 2004 11:37:08 AM |
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Teresita <teresita@dataway.com> wrote in message news:<ra9iq09t9j93k5it9dtokvnrudq9rnjpef@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:49:50 -0500, wbarwell
<wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
Teresita wrote:
On 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0800, (Iain) wrote:
Theism will probably be gone or neglegable by 2060, short of the sort
of deliberate cultural revolution that Britain is famous for lacking,
By 2060 the state religion of Britain will be Islam.
How ignorant. Its will be Atheism at this rate.
Numerically speaking the Atheists already are winning.
Less than one out of five Brits now think Jesus was in
some fashion, divine.
Moslems will be a small minority.
Britain could have zero out of five Brits who think Jesus was in some
fashion divine, yet have five out of five Brits as Moslem.
Not without massive immigration and education far direr than it is
remotely fashionable to say it is.
~Iain
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| User: "bob young" |
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27 Nov 2004 04:11:02 AM |
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Sean C wrote:
This survey, conducted by The Guardian, showed that only about 1/3 of
British 16-year-olds believe in God. This is very promising. Over 3/4
have friends of a different race. Many appear to despise Tony Blair.
Do you believe in God?
Yes 35%; no 45%; don't know 20%.
Do you have any friends of a different race?
Yes 77% (boys 69%, girls 84%); no 21% (boys 28%, girls 15%); don't know
2%
Which two do you deplore most?
Tony Blair 37%.
Prince Charles 17%.
--Sean C
.......and who was it said "Kids these days they don't know what they are
talking about"!
The world according to 16-year olds
http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,1359414,00.html
<excerpt:>
Sixteen-year-olds inspire intense curiosity, high hopes and nagging
fears - some of these turn out to be justified, others not. The results
of this poll are surprising, predictable, alarming, reassuring and,
overall, somehow present a likable picture. In other words,
16-year-olds are contradictory. They do eat a lot of chips, and do not
read a great many books. But most would much rather be happy than rich,
and care surprisingly little for fame or good looks. Nelson Mandela
commands more admiration than David Beckham, but politicians and
royalty trail way behind Kate Moss and Ms Dynamite in most
16-year-olds' estimation. Jordan enjoys the unusual distinction of
being both their third most admired personality, and third most
deplored. Unsurprisingly, she owes her place in the first category to
the boys, and in the second to the girls - one of the few instances of
strong gender disagreement. Three-quarters still believe in the concept
of marriage, but only a third in God.
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