Religions > Atheism > SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old
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"Yang, AthD h.c" |
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11 Dec 2007 12:19:47 AM |
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SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherri_Shepherd
Similar criticism erupted after the December 4, 2007 broadcast of The
View when, during a discussion initiated by Joy Behar about Epicurus,
Shepherd attempted to assert that Christians existed in classical
Greece, and that the Greeks threw them to the lions (see Persecution
of early Christians by the Romans). When confronted on this point, she
further claimed that "Jesus came first" (before Greeks and Romans) and
stated "I don't think anything predated Christians".[4][5]
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Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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| User: "Ian Harvey" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
11 Dec 2007 09:57:38 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:lppql3hta3271jjc50ki3sb6t216ffbchs@4ax.com...
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherri_Shepherd
Similar criticism erupted after the December 4, 2007 broadcast of The
View when, during a discussion initiated by Joy Behar about Epicurus,
Shepherd attempted to assert that Christians existed in classical
Greece, and that the Greeks threw them to the lions (see Persecution
of early Christians by the Romans). When confronted on this point, she
further claimed that "Jesus came first" (before Greeks and Romans) and
stated "I don't think anything predated Christians".[4][5]
--
Yang
a.a.#28
I remember listening to a discussion in a pub where one guy was explaining
to his mate that Romans were throwing Xtians to the lions from at least
100BC.
All that with a straight face.
Ian
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
11 Dec 2007 11:11:24 AM |
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Ian Harvey wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherri_Shepherd
Similar criticism erupted after the December 4, 2007 broadcast of The
View when, during a discussion initiated by Joy Behar about Epicurus,
Shepherd attempted to assert that Christians existed in classical
Greece, and that the Greeks threw them to the lions (see Persecution
of early Christians by the Romans). When confronted on this point,
she further claimed that "Jesus came first" (before Greeks and
Romans) and stated "I don't think anything predated
Christians".[4][5]
I remember listening to a discussion in a pub where one guy was
explaining to his mate that Romans were throwing Xtians to the lions
from at least 100BC.
All that with a straight face.
Preemptive slaughter? So that's where Bush got the idea.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
11 Dec 2007 02:32:01 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:19:47 GMT, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherri_Shepherd
Similar criticism erupted after the December 4, 2007 broadcast of The
View when, during a discussion initiated by Joy Behar about Epicurus,
Shepherd attempted to assert that Christians existed in classical
Greece, and that the Greeks threw them to the lions (see Persecution
of early Christians by the Romans). When confronted on this point, she
further claimed that "Jesus came first" (before Greeks and Romans) and
stated "I don't think anything predated Christians".[4][5]
Astounding just how STUPID xtians can get.
They never cease to amaze me.
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| User: "Jon Schild" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000Years Old |
12 Dec 2007 12:05:20 AM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:19:47 GMT, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherri_Shepherd
Similar criticism erupted after the December 4, 2007 broadcast of The
View when, during a discussion initiated by Joy Behar about Epicurus,
Shepherd attempted to assert that Christians existed in classical
Greece, and that the Greeks threw them to the lions (see Persecution
of early Christians by the Romans). When confronted on this point, she
further claimed that "Jesus came first" (before Greeks and Romans) and
stated "I don't think anything predated Christians".[4][5]
Astounding just how STUPID xtians can get.
They never cease to amaze me.
Not any stupider than those bigots that will condemn millions of people
for the misdeeds of one.
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I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us
with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
-- Galileo Galilei
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000Years Old |
11 Dec 2007 11:32:59 PM |
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On Dec 11, 10:05 pm, Jon Schild <j...@xmission.com> wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:19:47 GMT, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherri_Shepherd
Similar criticism erupted after the December 4, 2007 broadcast of The
View when, during a discussion initiated by Joy Behar about Epicurus,
Shepherd attempted to assert that Christians existed in classical
Greece, and that the Greeks threw them to the lions (see Persecution
of early Christians by the Romans). When confronted on this point, she
further claimed that "Jesus came first" (before Greeks and Romans) and
stated "I don't think anything predated Christians".[4][5]
Astounding just how STUPID xtians can get.
They never cease to amaze me.
Not any stupider than those bigots that will condemn millions of people
for the misdeeds of one.
Millions of Christians agree with her.
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| User: "Juan F. Lara" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000Years Old |
12 Dec 2007 10:14:43 AM |
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In article <a54d4670-8114-440c-9b7c-7d79b62f4c35@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Neil Kelsey <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not any stupider than those bigots that will condemn millions of people
for the misdeeds of one.
Millions of Christians agree with her.
The remaining millions of Christians do not.
There used to be these KKK wannabees who would always spam newsgroups with
news stories of some black person commiting a serious crime. Usually murder or
rape, particular with a female white victim. These news stories did happy,
but the KKK'ers tried to hype the stories as some sort of evidence for their
anti-Black bigotry. The troll posting these threads is doing the same thing,
to Catholics instead of African Americans this time. He's as much a spammer
as this SoT nut is.
- Juan F. Lara
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000Years Old |
12 Dec 2007 03:37:37 PM |
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On Dec 12, 8:14 am, (Juan F. Lara) wrote:
In article <a54d4670-8114-440c-9b7c-7d79b62f4...@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Neil Kelsey <neil_kel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not any stupider than those bigots that will condemn millions of people
for the misdeeds of one.
Millions of Christians agree with her.
The remaining millions of Christians do not.
There used to be these KKK wannabees who would always spam newsgroups with
news stories of some black person commiting a serious crime. Usually murder or
rape, particular with a female white victim. These news stories did happy,
but the KKK'ers tried to hype the stories as some sort of evidence for their
anti-Black bigotry. The troll posting these threads is doing the same thing,
to Catholics instead of African Americans this time. He's as much a spammer
as this SoT nut is.
- Juan F. Lara
Except that Michael Gray was right, it IS stupid to think the Earth is
2000 (or 6000) years old, and if millions of Christians agree with
her, then they are stupid too, at least in this respect. That's not
bigotry, nor is it condemning anyone, and it's weird to call it a
misdeed, as Jon Schild said. It is just calling a spade a spade.
To equate exposing ludicrous religious beliefs to spreading racism is
absurd, if I can decipher what you were trying to say ("These news
stories did happy..."? What does that mean?).
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| User: "Juan F. Lara" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000Years Old |
12 Dec 2007 03:54:28 PM |
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In article <659d2792-dbe8-4754-a1bf-79876ab3213b@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Neil Kelsey <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote:
Except that Michael Gray was right, it IS stupid to think the Earth is
2000 (or 6000) years old, and if millions of Christians agree with
her, then they are stupid too, at least in this respect. That's not
bigotry, nor is it condemning anyone, and it's weird to call it a
misdeed, as Jon Schild said. It is just calling a spade a spade.
I really don't think Michael Gray was making any distinction between
Bible literalists and Christians who don't take the Bible as word for word
exact when he said "these Christians".
To equate exposing ludicrous religious beliefs to spreading racism is
absurd, if I can decipher what you were trying to say ("These news
stories did happy..."? What does that mean?).
"happen". Pardon me for the typo.
- Juan F. Lara
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000Years Old |
12 Dec 2007 07:54:48 PM |
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On Dec 12, 1:54 pm, (Juan F. Lara) wrote:
In article <659d2792-dbe8-4754-a1bf-79876ab32...@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Neil Kelsey <neil_kel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Except that Michael Gray was right, it IS stupid to think the Earth is
2000 (or 6000) years old, and if millions of Christians agree with
her, then they are stupid too, at least in this respect. That's not
bigotry, nor is it condemning anyone, and it's weird to call it a
misdeed, as Jon Schild said. It is just calling a spade a spade.
I really don't think Michael Gray was making any distinction between
Bible literalists and Christians who don't take the Bible as word for word
exact when he said "these Christians".
He never said "these Christians." Go back and read it. He said
"Astounding just how STUPID xtians can get." He did not say "all
Christians are stupid," which is what you're trying to argue. He may
think that, but from his statement, at worst it's a sliding scale.
Learn to read for comprehension.
And you're missing the point anyway. The millions of Christians who
think like that woman on The View ARE stupid. Which is short for "too
lazy to educate themselves while simultaneously feeling empowered to
inflict their unfounded opinions on the others while being too
oblivious to notice that they're talking out of their *****."
Michael Gray is no troll.
To equate exposing ludicrous religious beliefs to spreading racism is
absurd, if I can decipher what you were trying to say ("These news
stories did happy..."? What does that mean?).
"happen". Pardon me for the typo.
- Juan F. Lara
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| User: "Juan F. Lara" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000Years Old |
13 Dec 2007 11:50:55 AM |
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In article <91cc7249-76f0-4b38-8bc4-c32ba3f4422d@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Neil Kelsey <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 12, 1:54 pm, (Juan F. Lara) wrote:
I really don't think Michael Gray was making any distinction between
Bible literalists and Christians who don't take the Bible as word for word
exact when he said "these Christians".
He never said "these Christians." Go back and read it. He said
"Astounding just how STUPID xtians can get." He did not say "all
Christians are stupid," which is what you're trying to argue.
The Christians who are not Bible literalists will not make a dumb
statement like what this view person made. But Michal Gray's still not
acknowledging that distinction.
Michael Gray is no troll.
Actually, I was referring to the guy who started this thread as the troll,
along with SoT.
- Juan F. Lara
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
13 Dec 2007 05:50:22 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:50:55 +0000 (UTC), (Juan
F. Lara) wrote:
In article <91cc7249-76f0-4b38-8bc4-c32ba3f4422d@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Neil Kelsey <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 12, 1:54 pm, (Juan F. Lara) wrote:
I really don't think Michael Gray was making any distinction between
Bible literalists and Christians who don't take the Bible as word for word
exact when he said "these Christians".
He never said "these Christians." Go back and read it. He said
"Astounding just how STUPID xtians can get." He did not say "all
Christians are stupid," which is what you're trying to argue.
The Christians who are not Bible literalists will not make a dumb
statement like what this view person made. But Michal Gray's still not
acknowledging that distinction.
I assure you that I do make that distinction.
But I happen to agree with Harris, Hitchens, Dawkins etc, who consider
that moderate theists are just as guilty of the vrimes committed by
the priests that they fund, support, enable, and conceal.
That appears to include you, judging by your previous evasive respon
ses when I have asked what you personally do to prevent these crimes,
rather than passively support them.
Michael Gray is no troll.
Actually, I was referring to the guy who started this thread as the troll,
along with SoT.
- Juan F. Lara
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| User: "Juan F. Lara" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
13 Dec 2007 06:00:55 PM |
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In article <v1f3m3hf7fd5vp6f6si8lck01ff7rvsv10@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
I assure you that I do make that distinction.
Fair enough.
But I happen to agree with Harris, Hitchens, Dawkins etc, who consider
that moderate theists are just as guilty of the vrimes committed by
the priests that they fund, support, enable, and conceal.
None of the priests in any of the parishes I've lived in has been
suspected of child molestation.
- Juan F. Lara
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| User: "Derek Janssen" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000Years Old |
14 Dec 2007 12:15:52 AM |
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Juan F. Lara wrote:
In article <v1f3m3hf7fd5vp6f6si8lck01ff7rvsv10@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
I assure you that I do make that distinction.
Fair enough.
But I happen to agree with Harris, Hitchens, Dawkins etc, who consider
that moderate theists are just as guilty of the vrimes committed by
the priests that they fund, support, enable, and conceal.
None of the priests in any of the parishes I've lived in has been
suspected of child molestation.
- Juan F. Lara
Juan: Rich mode...SHUT UP.
We've already seen that Gray is trying to "help" Yang's clown act (only
Gray's is *intentionally* clowning, instead of k00ked to the gills),
because he hangs out on a.a for his own personal-demon cynical
antisocial thrills.
He has nothing to offer the argument except to stretch it, and only
bought into the idea that a.a wants to live their fantasies that the
rest of Usenet are idiots "out to get them".
And to be historically accurate, we would never have HEARD of their
little pirate-club's existence if they didn't keep barging in on
everyone else's threads. Namely *ours*.
The thread started in the first place because some shelteredly
world-paranoid idiot was so desperately noob-naive about the other
groups outside his door that he believed every single thing he read on
Usenet, and thought he had to "fight back" for Good Thinking People
Everywhere by posting back at him.
Here's what we've been telling you all along, Juan: Don't be a total Yang.
Derek Janssen (and the question is, how many TIMES do we have to tell you?)
ejanss1@verizon.net
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
14 Dec 2007 12:35:56 AM |
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:15:52 GMT, Derek Janssen
<ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
Juan F. Lara wrote:
In article <v1f3m3hf7fd5vp6f6si8lck01ff7rvsv10@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
I assure you that I do make that distinction.
Fair enough.
But I happen to agree with Harris, Hitchens, Dawkins etc, who consider
that moderate theists are just as guilty of the vrimes committed by
the priests that they fund, support, enable, and conceal.
None of the priests in any of the parishes I've lived in has been
suspected of child molestation.
- Juan F. Lara
Juan: Rich mode...SHUT UP.
We've already seen that Gray is trying to "help" Yang's clown act (only
Gray's is *intentionally* clowning, instead of k00ked to the gills),
because he hangs out on a.a for his own personal-demon cynical
antisocial thrills.
He has nothing to offer the argument except to stretch it, and only
bought into the idea that a.a wants to live their fantasies that the
rest of Usenet are idiots "out to get them".
And to be historically accurate, we would never have HEARD of their
little pirate-club's existence if they didn't keep barging in on
everyone else's threads. Namely *ours*.
The thread started in the first place because some shelteredly
world-paranoid idiot was so desperately noob-naive about the other
groups outside his door that he believed every single thing he read on
Usenet, and thought he had to "fight back" for Good Thinking People
Everywhere by posting back at him.
Here's what we've been telling you all along, Juan: Don't be a total Yang.
Derek Janssen (and the question is, how many TIMES do we have to tell you?)
ejanss1@verizon.net
Another paedophile supporter is revealed.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
14 Dec 2007 12:35:25 AM |
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:00:55 +0000 (UTC), (Juan
F. Lara) wrote:
In article <v1f3m3hf7fd5vp6f6si8lck01ff7rvsv10@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
I assure you that I do make that distinction.
Fair enough.
But I happen to agree with Harris, Hitchens, Dawkins etc, who consider
that moderate theists are just as guilty of the vrimes committed by
the priests that they fund, support, enable, and conceal.
None of the priests in any of the parishes I've lived in has been
suspected of child molestation.
"Suspected"?
By whom?
How does that correlate with performing these actions?
And what parishes might they be now?
And why concentrate on just the parishes in which you have lived?
The churches are a universal organistation, and your support of your
parishe's operations fund the whole church, you know, including the
paedophiles.
Your tacit support for the church's activitivities provides cover for
the paedophiles and criminals as well.
How are you able to restrict your implicit support for the church
hierarchy to just those selected parishes?
(Hint: You cannot.)
Please respond honestly.
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| User: "Juan F. Lara" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
14 Dec 2007 09:00:28 AM |
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In article <tp84m31sol8hl2pinigcen8smbp2anm62j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
None of the priests in any of the parishes I've lived in has been
suspected of child molestation.
"Suspected"?
By whom?
By the police.
How does that correlate with performing these actions?
I'm not assuming that someone is a child molester just because he's a
priest. Are you?
- Juan F. Lara
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| User: "Derek Janssen" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000Years Old |
14 Dec 2007 01:25:45 PM |
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Juan F. Lara wrote:
In article <tp84m31sol8hl2pinigcen8smbp2anm62j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
None of the priests in any of the parishes I've lived in has been
suspected of child molestation.
"Suspected"?
By whom?
By the police.
How does that correlate with performing these actions?
I'm not assuming that someone is a child molester just because he's a
priest. Are you?
Yes, it's his one vaudeville act, it's all he's got, and if it still
plays the Peoria Roxy ten years later, darnit, he'll PLAY it at the
Peoria Roxy...
Time to pull the trapdoor lever on the thread, Juan.
Like normal people do.
Derek Janssen
ejanss1@verizon.net
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
14 Dec 2007 08:13:34 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:25:45 GMT, Derek Janssen
<ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
Juan F. Lara wrote:
In article <tp84m31sol8hl2pinigcen8smbp2anm62j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
None of the priests in any of the parishes I've lived in has been
suspected of child molestation.
"Suspected"?
By whom?
By the police.
How does that correlate with performing these actions?
I'm not assuming that someone is a child molester just because he's a
priest. Are you?
Yes, it's his one vaudeville act, it's all he's got, and if it still
plays the Peoria Roxy ten years later, darnit, he'll PLAY it at the
Peoria Roxy...
Time to pull the trapdoor lever on the thread, Juan.
Like normal people do.
Yep, close your eyes and institutionalised church run criminal
activities will go away.
That's the attitude, mate!
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
14 Dec 2007 08:12:16 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:00:28 +0000 (UTC), (Juan
F. Lara) wrote:
In article <tp84m31sol8hl2pinigcen8smbp2anm62j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
None of the priests in any of the parishes I've lived in has been
suspected of child molestation.
"Suspected"?
By whom?
By the police.
How do you know this?
How does that correlate with performing these actions?
I'm not assuming that someone is a child molester just because he's a
priest. Are you?
You did not answer my question.
And there's a significantly above average chance of priests being
criminals.
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| User: "Juan F. Lara" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
15 Dec 2007 01:01:50 AM |
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In article <9sd6m3hqhscfe2vko00rls40tbg4ujcub3@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:00:28 +0000 (UTC), (Juan
F. Lara) wrote:
"Suspected"?
By whom?
By the police.
How do you know this?
Because no one I know about's been arrested yet.
How does that correlate with performing these actions?
I'm not assuming that someone is a child molester just because he's a
priest. Are you?
You did not answer my question.
Yes I did.
And there's a significantly above average chance of priests being
criminals.
Maybe in your biased mind.
- Juan F. Lara
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| User: "Derek Janssen" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000Years Old |
13 Dec 2007 07:54:25 PM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:50:55 +0000 (UTC), (Juan
F. Lara) wrote:
In article <91cc7249-76f0-4b38-8bc4-c32ba3f4422d@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Neil Kelsey <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 12, 1:54 pm, (Juan F. Lara) wrote:
I really don't think Michael Gray was making any distinction between
Bible literalists and Christians who don't take the Bible as word for word
exact when he said "these Christians".
He never said "these Christians." Go back and read it. He said
"Astounding just how STUPID xtians can get." He did not say "all
Christians are stupid," which is what you're trying to argue.
The Christians who are not Bible literalists will not make a dumb
statement like what this view person made. But Michal Gray's still not
acknowledging that distinction.
I assure you that I do make that distinction.
But I happen to agree with Harris, Hitchens, Dawkins etc, who consider
that moderate theists are just as guilty of the vrimes committed by
the priests that they fund, support, enable, and conceal.
That appears to include you, judging by your previous evasive respon
ses when I have asked what you personally do to prevent these crimes,
rather than passively support them.
And us, being on rec.movies.smart-people could spot a dying last-dictch
"Aren'tcha going to play along, huh?" stretch-troll a mile away, and
mercy-pulled the ol' trapdoor lever on the thread.
Funny things, what go on outside the remote, primitive, sheltered
islands of a.a...
Derek Janssen (y'know, outside, where the REAL Usenet posters live)
ejanss1@verizon.net
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000Years Old |
12 Dec 2007 08:24:54 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
On Dec 12, 1:54 pm, (Juan F. Lara) wrote:
In article <659d2792-dbe8-4754-a1bf-79876ab32...@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Neil Kelsey <neil_kel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Except that Michael Gray was right, it IS stupid to think the Earth is
2000 (or 6000) years old, and if millions of Christians agree with
her, then they are stupid too, at least in this respect. That's not
bigotry, nor is it condemning anyone, and it's weird to call it a
misdeed, as Jon Schild said. It is just calling a spade a spade.
I really don't think Michael Gray was making any distinction between
Bible literalists and Christians who don't take the Bible as word for word
exact when he said "these Christians".
He never said "these Christians." Go back and read it. He said
"Astounding just how STUPID xtians can get." He did not say "all
Christians are stupid," which is what you're trying to argue. He may
think that, but from his statement, at worst it's a sliding scale.
Learn to read for comprehension.
You don't think he means that all Christians have an equal chance to
get stupid?
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
12 Dec 2007 03:28:44 PM |
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:14:43 +0000 (UTC), (Juan
F. Lara) wrote:
In article <a54d4670-8114-440c-9b7c-7d79b62f4c35@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Neil Kelsey <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not any stupider than those bigots that will condemn millions of people
for the misdeeds of one.
Millions of Christians agree with her.
The remaining millions of Christians do not.
There used to be these KKK wannabees who would always spam newsgroups with
news stories of some black person commiting a serious crime. Usually murder or
rape, particular with a female white victim. These news stories did happy,
but the KKK'ers tried to hype the stories as some sort of evidence for their
anti-Black bigotry. The troll posting these threads is doing the same thing,
to Catholics instead of African Americans this time. He's as much a spammer
as this SoT nut is.
So, what are you ACTIVELY doing to prevent child-abuse within the
various churches?
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| User: "Juan F. Lara" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
12 Dec 2007 03:50:30 PM |
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In article <9jk0m3l5hfsigaj4js6cng04ma4ip1tf5k@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
There used to be these KKK wannabees who would always spam newsgroups with
news stories of some black person commiting a serious crime. Usually murder
or rape, particular with a female white victim. These news stories did
happy,
but the KKK'ers tried to hype the stories as some sort of evidence for their
anti-Black bigotry. The troll posting these threads is doing the same thing,
to Catholics instead of African Americans this time. He's as much a spammer
as this SoT nut is.
So, what are you ACTIVELY doing to prevent child-abuse within the
various churches?
What does an article about some woman saying something dumb have anything
to do with child abuse?
- Juan F. Lara
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| User: "Derek Janssen" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000Years Old |
12 Dec 2007 07:13:38 PM |
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Juan F. Lara wrote:
In article <9jk0m3l5hfsigaj4js6cng04ma4ip1tf5k@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
There used to be these KKK wannabees who would always spam newsgroups with
news stories of some black person commiting a serious crime. Usually murder
or rape, particular with a female white victim. These news stories did
happy,
but the KKK'ers tried to hype the stories as some sort of evidence for their
anti-Black bigotry. The troll posting these threads is doing the same thing,
to Catholics instead of African Americans this time. He's as much a spammer
as this SoT nut is.
So, what are you ACTIVELY doing to prevent child-abuse within the
various churches?
What does an article about some woman saying something dumb have anything
to do with child abuse?
(Um, like we say about Rich, Juan....Chill:
You don't have to "avenge" every "evil" k00k who wanders in on a
crossposting--
In this case, YaeC thinks he's "avenging" Sound of Thunder's every
single post, got stagestruck over his own attention, got wrapped up in
his own fantasies that he could squeeze a "trademark" out of it...And
now appears to be driving his OWN fellow a.a's out of their batty skulls
with the same expired one-note tantrum act--
Gee, looks like someone *else* has been suffering a little bit of
internal idealistic splintering lately, thanks to a few isolated
loose-cannon nutballs playing the cartoon-character act in public and
stinking up the group image for everyone else, huh?) ;)
Derek Janssen (THAT's never happened anywhere else!)
ejanss1@verizon.net
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
13 Dec 2007 04:10:22 AM |
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:50:30 +0000 (UTC), (Juan
F. Lara) wrote:
In article <9jk0m3l5hfsigaj4js6cng04ma4ip1tf5k@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
There used to be these KKK wannabees who would always spam newsgroups with
news stories of some black person commiting a serious crime. Usually murder
or rape, particular with a female white victim. These news stories did
happy,
but the KKK'ers tried to hype the stories as some sort of evidence for their
anti-Black bigotry. The troll posting these threads is doing the same thing,
to Catholics instead of African Americans this time. He's as much a spammer
as this SoT nut is.
So, what are you ACTIVELY doing to prevent child-abuse within the
various churches?
What does an article about some woman saying something dumb have anything
to do with child abuse?
So, your answer is a resounding: "NOTHING!" then, I take it?
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| User: "Juan F. Lara" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
13 Dec 2007 12:00:44 PM |
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In article <f712m3l3235368rcfhptduj1pk27cd6ket@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
What does an article about some woman saying something dumb have anything
to do with child abuse?
So, your answer is a resounding: "NOTHING!" then, I take it?
Find someone else to play "Witch Trial Prosecutor" with.
- Juan F. Lara
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
13 Dec 2007 05:50:22 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:00:44 +0000 (UTC), (Juan
F. Lara) wrote:
In article <f712m3l3235368rcfhptduj1pk27cd6ket@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
What does an article about some woman saying something dumb have anything
to do with child abuse?
So, your answer is a resounding: "NOTHING!" then, I take it?
Find someone else to play "Witch Trial Prosecutor" with.
Thanks for that admission.
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| User: "Juan F. Lara" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
13 Dec 2007 06:02:22 PM |
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In article <56f3m3h53olkd3n2f65oeo9urlih1h74nf@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Thanks for that admission.
I have not admitted anything, Senator McCarthy.
- Juan F. Lara
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christian Intelligence: Christian TV Host Thinks World 2000 Years Old |
14 Dec 2007 12:31:11 AM |
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:02:22 +0000 (UTC), (Juan
F. Lara) wrote:
In article <56f3m3h53olkd3n2f65oeo9urlih1h74nf@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Thanks for that admission.
I have not admitted anything, Senator McCarthy.
Especially that you are actively figting against these criminal
paedophiles that you passivley support.
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