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"Yang, AthD h.c" |
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26 Nov 2007 09:39:35 PM |
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SoT Christianity: ATL Pastor Arrested for Wifebeating |
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/11/15/pastor_1116_web.html
The senior pastor of Alpharetta First Baptist Church was charged with
simple assault and obstruction of a 911 call after an altercation with
his wife.
Jeff Witcher, leader of the 1,500-member church since 2003, is on
administrative leave with pay until further notice, said Deacon
Jonathan Wilson.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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| User: "Immortalist" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christianity: ATL Pastor Arrested for Wifebeating |
26 Nov 2007 11:38:50 PM |
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On Nov 26, 7:39 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/11/...
The senior pastor of Alpharetta First Baptist Church was charged with
simple assault and obstruction of a 911 call after an altercation with
his wife.
Jeff Witcher, leader of the 1,500-member church since 2003, is on
administrative leave with pay until further notice, said Deacon
Jonathan Wilson.
Then your saying that Christians are less perfect than the rest?
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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| User: "Phlip" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christianity: ATL Pastor Arrested for Wifebeating |
26 Nov 2007 11:41:06 PM |
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The senior pastor of Alpharetta First Baptist Church was charged with
simple assault and obstruction of a 911 call after an altercation with
his wife.
Then your saying that Christians are less perfect than the rest?
Look up the psychological phenomenon of "filtering", already...
(But please continue filtering-in the pattern "hypocrits with the line 'do
as I say not as I do!'"!;)
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| User: "Immortalist" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christianity: ATL Pastor Arrested for Wifebeating |
27 Nov 2007 12:04:23 AM |
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On Nov 26, 9:41 pm, "Phlip" <phlip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The senior pastor of Alpharetta First Baptist Church was charged with
simple assault and obstruction of a 911 call after an altercation with
his wife.
Then your saying that Christians are less perfect than the rest?
Look up the psychological phenomenon of "filtering", already...
(But please continue filtering-in the pattern "hypocrits with the line 'do
as I say not as I do!'"!;)
Why filter what can be questioned? It seems that abuse is not specific
to Christians and he appears to provide reasons for why we should pay
special attention to the Christian concerning these kinds of matters.
Why not attack abuse instead of draging the smelly red-herring across
the path of our nostrils?
A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented
in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea
is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument
and to another topic.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/red-herring.html
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christianity: ATL Pastor Arrested for Wifebeating |
27 Nov 2007 09:00:09 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:38:50 -0800 (PST), Immortalist
<reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 7:39 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/11/...
The senior pastor of Alpharetta First Baptist Church was charged with
simple assault and obstruction of a 911 call after an altercation with
his wife.
Jeff Witcher, leader of the 1,500-member church since 2003, is on
administrative leave with pay until further notice, said Deacon
Jonathan Wilson.
Then your saying that Christians are less perfect than the rest?
I'm saying you Christians have no moral authority to lecture others
on.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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| User: "Wordsmith" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christianity: ATL Pastor Arrested for Wifebeating |
27 Nov 2007 12:45:30 AM |
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On Nov 26, 8:39 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/11/...
The senior pastor of Alpharetta First Baptist Church was charged with
simple assault and obstruction of a 911 call after an altercation with
his wife.
Jeff Witcher, leader of the 1,500-member church since 2003, is on
administrative leave with pay until further notice, said Deacon
Jonathan Wilson.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
For every errant Christian you post, there are many, many more who do
good,
which does more than offset the evil of the few. Deal with it.
W : )
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christianity: ATL Pastor Arrested for Wifebeating |
27 Nov 2007 09:01:02 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:45:30 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsmith@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 8:39 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/11/...
The senior pastor of Alpharetta First Baptist Church was charged with
simple assault and obstruction of a 911 call after an altercation with
his wife.
Jeff Witcher, leader of the 1,500-member church since 2003, is on
administrative leave with pay until further notice, said Deacon
Jonathan Wilson.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
For every errant Christian you post, there are many, many more who do
good, which does more than offset the evil of the few. Deal with it.
For every evil Christian you try to excuse, we bring them to light.
Deal with it.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christianity: ATL Pastor Arrested for Wifebeating |
27 Nov 2007 07:37:09 PM |
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On Nov 27, 10:01=EF=BF=BDam, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.co=
m>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:45:30 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 8:39 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/11/...=
The senior pastor of Alpharetta First Baptist Church was charged with
simple assault and obstruction of a 911 call after an altercation with
his wife.
Jeff Witcher, leader of the 1,500-member church since 2003, is on
administrative leave with pay until further notice, said Deacon
Jonathan Wilson.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006=
For every errant Christian you post, there are many, many more who do
good, which does more than offset the evil of the few. Deal with it.
For every evil Christian you try to excuse, we bring them to light.
Deal with it.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006- H=
ide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I think Christians have pretty much always done that. There is an
excuse for each not-so-Christian practice by covering it up with a
holy reason why. It is a never ending cycle of corruption.
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| User: "Wordsmith" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christianity: ATL Pastor Arrested for Wifebeating |
27 Nov 2007 01:39:17 PM |
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On Nov 27, 8:01 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:45:30 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 8:39 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/11/...
The senior pastor of Alpharetta First Baptist Church was charged with
simple assault and obstruction of a 911 call after an altercation with
his wife.
Jeff Witcher, leader of the 1,500-member church since 2003, is on
administrative leave with pay until further notice, said Deacon
Jonathan Wilson.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
For every errant Christian you post, there are many, many more who do
good, which does more than offset the evil of the few. Deal with it.
For every evil Christian you try to excuse, we bring them to light.
Deal with it.
Who's excusing it? I'm sure not.
W : )
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christianity: ATL Pastor Arrested for Wifebeating |
27 Nov 2007 09:00:58 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:39:17 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsmith@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 27, 8:01 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:45:30 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 8:39 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/11/...
The senior pastor of Alpharetta First Baptist Church was charged with
simple assault and obstruction of a 911 call after an altercation with
his wife.
Jeff Witcher, leader of the 1,500-member church since 2003, is on
administrative leave with pay until further notice, said Deacon
Jonathan Wilson.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
For every errant Christian you post, there are many, many more who do
good, which does more than offset the evil of the few. Deal with it.
For every evil Christian you try to excuse, we bring them to light.
Deal with it.
Who's excusing it? I'm sure not.
Yes you are. Your argument above says that all the bad Christians are
compensated by good Christians. Guess what? all the bad communists are
also outnumbered by all the "good" communists", all the "bad Satan
worshippers are outnumbered by "good" Satan worshippers.
This "net value" argument of religious worth is silly. Either
Christianty leads to moral superiority or it doesn't, which is it?
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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| User: "Wordsmith" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christianity: ATL Pastor Arrested for Wifebeating |
27 Nov 2007 11:59:55 PM |
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On Nov 27, 8:00 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:39:17 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 27, 8:01 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:45:30 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 8:39 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/11/...
The senior pastor of Alpharetta First Baptist Church was charged with
simple assault and obstruction of a 911 call after an altercation with
his wife.
Jeff Witcher, leader of the 1,500-member church since 2003, is on
administrative leave with pay until further notice, said Deacon
Jonathan Wilson.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
For every errant Christian you post, there are many, many more who do
good, which does more than offset the evil of the few. Deal with it.
For every evil Christian you try to excuse, we bring them to light.
Deal with it.
Who's excusing it? I'm sure not.
Yes you are. Your argument above says that all the bad Christians are
compensated by good Christians. Guess what? all the bad communists are
also outnumbered by all the "good" communists", all the "bad Satan
worshippers are outnumbered by "good" Satan worshippers.
This "net value" argument of religious worth is silly. Either
Christianty leads to moral superiority or it doesn't, which is it?
It does, but you must understand there are errant people in all
religions. And nonreligious can err too.
W : )
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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28 Nov 2007 01:08:19 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:59:55 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsmith@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 27, 8:00 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:39:17 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 27, 8:01 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:45:30 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 8:39 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/11/...
The senior pastor of Alpharetta First Baptist Church was charged with
simple assault and obstruction of a 911 call after an altercation with
his wife.
Jeff Witcher, leader of the 1,500-member church since 2003, is on
administrative leave with pay until further notice, said Deacon
Jonathan Wilson.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
For every errant Christian you post, there are many, many more who do
good, which does more than offset the evil of the few. Deal with it.
For every evil Christian you try to excuse, we bring them to light.
Deal with it.
Who's excusing it? I'm sure not.
Yes you are. Your argument above says that all the bad Christians are
compensated by good Christians. Guess what? all the bad communists are
also outnumbered by all the "good" communists", all the "bad Satan
worshippers are outnumbered by "good" Satan worshippers.
This "net value" argument of religious worth is silly. Either
Christianty leads to moral superiority or it doesn't, which is it?
It does, but you must understand there are errant people in all
religions. And nonreligious can err too.
Oh I get it, Christianity leads to moral supeiroirty, if you ignore
inconvenient facts such as all those pedophile Christians.
You cliam has zero basis in facts.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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| User: "Wordsmith" |
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| Title: Re: SoT Christianity: ATL Pastor Arrested for Wifebeating |
28 Nov 2007 01:44:53 AM |
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On Nov 28, 12:08 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:59:55 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 27, 8:00 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:39:17 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 27, 8:01 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:45:30 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 8:39 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/11/...
The senior pastor of Alpharetta First Baptist Church was charged with
simple assault and obstruction of a 911 call after an altercation with
his wife.
Jeff Witcher, leader of the 1,500-member church since 2003, is on
administrative leave with pay until further notice, said Deacon
Jonathan Wilson.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
For every errant Christian you post, there are many, many more who do
good, which does more than offset the evil of the few. Deal with it.
For every evil Christian you try to excuse, we bring them to light.
Deal with it.
Who's excusing it? I'm sure not.
Yes you are. Your argument above says that all the bad Christians are
compensated by good Christians. Guess what? all the bad communists are
also outnumbered by all the "good" communists", all the "bad Satan
worshippers are outnumbered by "good" Satan worshippers.
This "net value" argument of religious worth is silly. Either
Christianty leads to moral superiority or it doesn't, which is it?
It does, but you must understand there are errant people in all
religions. And nonreligious can err too.
Oh I get it, Christianity leads to moral supeiroirty, if you ignore
inconvenient facts such as all those pedophile Christians.
You cliam has zero basis in facts.
My cliam sure does...and not all Christians are pedophiles.
W : )
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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28 Nov 2007 04:25:10 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:44:53 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsmith@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 28, 12:08 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:59:55 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 27, 8:00 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:39:17 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 27, 8:01 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:45:30 -0800 (PST), Wordsmith
<wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 26, 8:39 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/11/...
The senior pastor of Alpharetta First Baptist Church was charged with
simple assault and obstruction of a 911 call after an altercation with
his wife.
Jeff Witcher, leader of the 1,500-member church since 2003, is on
administrative leave with pay until further notice, said Deacon
Jonathan Wilson.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
For every errant Christian you post, there are many, many more who do
good, which does more than offset the evil of the few. Deal with it.
For every evil Christian you try to excuse, we bring them to light.
Deal with it.
Who's excusing it? I'm sure not.
Yes you are. Your argument above says that all the bad Christians are
compensated by good Christians. Guess what? all the bad communists are
also outnumbered by all the "good" communists", all the "bad Satan
worshippers are outnumbered by "good" Satan worshippers.
This "net value" argument of religious worth is silly. Either
Christianty leads to moral superiority or it doesn't, which is it?
It does, but you must understand there are errant people in all
religions. And nonreligious can err too.
Oh I get it, Christianity leads to moral supeiroirty, if you ignore
inconvenient facts such as all those pedophile Christians.
You cliam has zero basis in facts.
My cliam sure does...and not all Christians are pedophiles.
And which facts would that be, that Christian marriages are more
likely to end in divorces than atheist ones [1]? that Christians are
more likely to end up in jail than atheists [2]? That the christian
clergy is 7 times morelikely to be charged with pedophilia than the
general population[3]? That atheist doctors are empirically shown to
be more compassionate than Christian ones[4]?
Let me guess, you think your dishonesty proves the moral superiority
of yoru Christianity, in your little world.
[1]http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm
[2]http://www.skepticfiles.org/american/prison.htm
[3]http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/9243552c83a0048c/beacbc0149a3fca0?lnk=st&q=yang+alt.atheism+7.2+times+more#beacbc0149a3fca0
[4]http://pressesc.com/news/80931072007/atheist-doctors-more-likely-care-poor-religious-ones
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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| User: "Michael Gordge" |
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27 Nov 2007 02:37:25 AM |
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On Nov 27, 3:45 pm, Wordsmith <wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
For every errant Christian you post, there are many, many more who do
good,
which does more than offset the evil of the few.
Nice mystics are nice mystics in spite of and not because of any
irrational mystical trash banging around inside their minds.
If only the mystics would learn tolerance.
MG
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