On 19 May 2007 22:57:40 GMT,

Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:

better than anyone else.

But it is very common for somebody to CALL himself a christian and
pretend to be better than everybody else.

Define "common".

Look in a dictionary.

So you are admitting to not knowing the definition?

So you're admitting to being an illiterate moron who doesn't even know
how to use a dictionary?

Of course not. Its up to you to provide the definitions of that which
you claim.

I still see you are unable to do so.

Id also ask if they were Democrats /liberals.

Because you're a political bigot.

Yes. As are you.

Like most right-wing bigots, you assume that everybody is as corrupt,
immoral, dishonest, and bigoted as you are.

You are a far left wing extremist fringe kook and an ardent liberal.

That you are corrupt, immoral and dishonest and bigoted is a given.

On 20 May 2007 01:37:14 GMT,

Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:

arguing by example.

And yet you hypocrites pretend moral superiority for no better reason.

Its like talking to a wall. The OP makes a statement and again Ray
demonstrates how correct it was.

"I know you are but what am I?"

A liberal of course. Even you admit it.

Where?

With every post you make.

On 20 May 2007 01:37:14 GMT,

Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:

arguing by example.

And yet you hypocrites pretend moral superiority for no better reason.

Its like talking to a wall. The OP makes a statement and again Ray
demonstrates how correct it was.

"I know you are but what am I?"

A liberal of course. Even you admit it.

Where?

With every post you make.

Which is also the point. Any time a self-professed Christian claims
to be better or more moral or more ethical than a non-Christian it is
entirely reasonable to assume that he is, in fact, immoral and
dishonest.

Oh...Like Liberals.

More of your usual hypocritical bigotry.

Thanks for further confirmation of my claims.

Your irrational hatred of all "liberals"?

No..thats an over active imagination on your part. Its the dishonesty,
bigotry, immorality and so forth that you display that keeps confirming
your unfortunate status.

You do know there are 12 step programs for your mental health issues, do
you not?

The Program:

Step 1: Admitting that you’re a liberal This is the first step for every
liberal on the way to recovery. It is important to understand that
you’re not “progressive,” “moderate,” or “enlightened.” You’re a
liberal, and you need to be honest with yourself about that fact.

Step 2: Pledge to support your beliefs with facts Realize that truth is
more important than moral superiority and is the only way to come over
to reality. You must research beyond propaganda from the Sierra Club,
Hillary Clinton, and CNN (the Communist News Network) to understand
things as they really exist in the world. You can no longer argue based
on “feelings” or emotion. You will actually need to back up your
arguments with real information. This is a difficult step, because it
means you can’t be lazy any more.

Step 3: Love America This may be the most difficult step for those of
you who are hippies and peaceniks. Admitting that the country you hate
actually stands as a beacon to defend freedom throughout the world can
make some of you physically ill. You might want to make a visit to a
military cemetery to better understand that these men and women gave
their lives so that you could spew hatred. Otherwise, you would
currently be living in a police state that would never let you wear that
nasty patchouli oil, let alone speak out against your government.

Step 4: Take a college level economics class I’ve always defined a
Socialist as someone who’s never taken an economics class. Most
Socialists I’ve spoke with would have a hard time balancing their
checkbooks, let alone explaining the simple concept of
supply-and-demand. It’s time to flush your complete ignorance of basic
economics down the toilet and understand how the world actually
functions. This concept will be very important for the next steps that
involve communism, facts about corporations, and the inefficiencies of
government.

Step 5: Say “no” to Communism and Socialism While this concept is
obvious to most of the free world, it is an important step in your
recovery process. If you have difficulty with this step, spend a week
living and working in Cuba.

Step 6: Corporations are not evil If you’re reading this article online
or in an e-mail, it’s thanks to corporations. If you get some kind of
paycheck, you can thank corporations. If you work for a non-profit or
the government, you still have to thank corporations. The non-profit
sector and the government wouldn’t have any money to pay you without
corporations. It is also important that you understand that making a
profit doesn’t equate to “greed” or exploitation. Capitalism has created
the greatest society in our world’s history. Even communist countries
need corporations to survive, so enjoy a nice, hot cup of reality.

Step 7: The government is inefficient If you are one of those liberals
who believe the government should tax us more in order to take care of
society, you need to pay special attention to this step. You need to
realize that government bureaucracy will waste most of your tax dollars,
while the private sector will put your money to much better use. Even
most Democrat politicians understand this to some degree, which is why
Hillary’s socialist healthcare proposal was voted down by a majority of
both Democrats and Republicans. Go to your local post office or call the
IRS to ask a tax question if you need a reminder about government
inefficiency.

Step 8: The earth is not your “mother,” and she’s not dying The time has
now come to stop your donations to Greenpeace, The Sierra Club, and
every other EnviroNazi organization to which you belong. Face the
reality that the earth, society, and our environment are better off
today than ever in recorded history and that they are continuing to
improve. I realize that many of you tree huggers will have a very
difficult time letting go of the Douglas Fir on this one. I would
suggest reading The Skeptical Environmentalist by Bjorn Lomborg. Mr.
Lomborg is a former member of Greenpeace and is currently a statistics
professor at a university in Denmark. He set out to prove the world was
in bad shape and ended up surprising himself by proving the exact
opposite.

Step 9: Stop smoking the wacky tobaccy Okay, some of you might need to
enter another 12-step program to complete this step. Marijuana is
distorting your sense of reality, and you need to stop using it.
Besides, you’ll save a fortune on snacks.

Step 10: Eat a hamburger If God didn’t intend for us to eat animals, he
wouldn’t have made them out of meat. You can put your sprouts and tofu
on the hamburger, but get some meat into you. You’ll look and feel
better than you ever imagined. You can always remind yourself that Adolf
Hitler was a vegetarian to get you through this step.

Step 11: Stop re-writing political history It’s now time to admit that
Bill Clinton is a lying-cheating-sexist-racist-rapist jackass, Hillary
Clinton is one of the worst role models for women in this country, Al
Gore really did lose the 2000 election by every vote tabulation you
attempt, Ronald Reagan ended the Cold War and didn’t create the homeless
problem, John McCain is not a typical Republican, and Jimmy Carter is a
nice man but has one of the worst presidential records of anyone in
history.

Step 12: Be a missionary Once you have completed the previous steps to
overcoming liberalism, it’s time for you to share this awakening with
others who are not as fortunate. Go out amongst the liberal sheep and
spread the good word of your freedom from the chains of ignorance that
once bound you. Congratulations, and welcome to reality.