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User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Date: 18 Aug 2006 09:39:28 AM
Object: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape
Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
Funny how it's always the Christian who has that "lapse in judgement"
http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=local&id=4471667
BUENA VISTA TOWNSHIP (WJRT) - (08/17/06)--It was a "lapse in
judgment." Those words came from the attorney of a former Buena Vista
Township band teacher who admitted having sex with several middle
school students.
Last month Laura Findlay pleaded guilty to 22 counts of first-degree
criminal sexual conduct. Prosecutors say the molestation happened from
November 2004 to February 2005.
....
Findlay told the judge she was sorry. Her attorney said she had a
"lapse in judgment," that she was lonely and stupid at the time.
He pointed out she is well educated, grew up in a CHRISTIAN home, and
doesn't have any prior criminal history.
-----
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The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2603 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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User: "Immortalist"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 18 Aug 2006 11:57:01 AM
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority

How many and what kinds of mistakes can people make to not be
considered superior anymore, that is if they thought they were superior
in the first place?

Funny how it's always the Christian who has that "lapse in judgement"

http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=local&id=4471667

BUENA VISTA TOWNSHIP (WJRT) - (08/17/06)--It was a "lapse in
judgment." Those words came from the attorney of a former Buena Vista
Township band teacher who admitted having sex with several middle
school students.

Last month Laura Findlay pleaded guilty to 22 counts of first-degree
criminal sexual conduct. Prosecutors say the molestation happened from
November 2004 to February 2005.
...
Findlay told the judge she was sorry. Her attorney said she had a
"lapse in judgment," that she was lonely and stupid at the time.

He pointed out she is well educated, grew up in a CHRISTIAN home, and
doesn't have any prior criminal history.


-----
Yang
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a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2603 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

-----
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User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 18 Aug 2006 08:08:45 PM
On 18 Aug 2006 09:57:01 -0700, "Immortalist"
<reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:


Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority


How many and what kinds of mistakes can people make to not be
considered superior anymore, that is if they thought they were superior
in the first place?

When they stop pretending to be morally superior.

Funny how it's always the Christian who has that "lapse in judgement"

http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=local&id=4471667

BUENA VISTA TOWNSHIP (WJRT) - (08/17/06)--It was a "lapse in
judgment." Those words came from the attorney of a former Buena Vista
Township band teacher who admitted having sex with several middle
school students.

Last month Laura Findlay pleaded guilty to 22 counts of first-degree
criminal sexual conduct. Prosecutors say the molestation happened from
November 2004 to February 2005.
...
Findlay told the judge she was sorry. Her attorney said she had a
"lapse in judgment," that she was lonely and stupid at the time.

He pointed out she is well educated, grew up in a CHRISTIAN home, and
doesn't have any prior criminal history.


-----
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EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2603 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

-----
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The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2604 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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User: ""

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 20 Aug 2006 01:49:49 PM
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

On 18 Aug 2006 09:57:01 -0700, "Immortalist"
<reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:


Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority


How many and what kinds of mistakes can people make to not be
considered superior anymore, that is if they thought they were superior
in the first place?


When they stop pretending to be morally superior.

And this applies to all humans who think their tribe is superior by
instinct?
War can be defined as the violent rupture of the intricate and powerful
fabric of the territorial taboos observed by social groups. The force
behind most warlike policies is ethnocentrism, the irrationally
exaggerated allegiance of individuals to their kin and fellow
tribesmen. In general, primitive men divide the world into two tangible
parts, the near environment of home, local villages, kin, friends, tame
animals, and witches, and the more distant universe of neighboring
villages, intertribal allies, enemies, wild animals, and ghosts. This
elemental topography makes easier the distinction between enemies who
can be attacked and killed and friends who cannot. The contrast is
heightened by reducing enemies to frightful and even subhuman status.
On Human Nature - Edward O. Wilson 1978
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/067463442X/qid=1036537594/

Funny how it's always the Christian who has that "lapse in judgement"

http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=local&id=4471667

BUENA VISTA TOWNSHIP (WJRT) - (08/17/06)--It was a "lapse in
judgment." Those words came from the attorney of a former Buena Vista
Township band teacher who admitted having sex with several middle
school students.

Last month Laura Findlay pleaded guilty to 22 counts of first-degree
criminal sexual conduct. Prosecutors say the molestation happened from
November 2004 to February 2005.
...
Findlay told the judge she was sorry. Her attorney said she had a
"lapse in judgment," that she was lonely and stupid at the time.

He pointed out she is well educated, grew up in a CHRISTIAN home, and
doesn't have any prior criminal history.


-----
Yang
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AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2603 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

-----
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The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2604 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

-----
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User: "Sgeo"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 18 Aug 2006 12:17:30 PM
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority

Funny how it's always the Christian who has that "lapse in judgement"

[snip]

Why do I have this feeling that if it was a Christian posting about an
atheist doing something wrong, everyone would quickly respond with the
comment that just because someone in a particular group is bad, doesn't
mean everyone is?
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User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 18 Aug 2006 01:27:38 PM
"Sgeo" <sgeoster@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority

Funny how it's always the Christian who has that "lapse in judgement"

[snip]


Why do I have this feeling that if it was a Christian posting about an
atheist doing something wrong, everyone would quickly respond with the
comment that just because someone in a particular group is bad, doesn't
mean everyone is?

That will be a valid argument once Christians stop being self-righteous.
--
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dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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User: "Malcolm"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 18 Aug 2006 02:54:33 PM
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message


"Sgeo" <sgeoster@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority

Funny how it's always the Christian who has that "lapse in judgement"

[snip]


Why do I have this feeling that if it was a Christian posting about an
atheist doing something wrong, everyone would quickly respond with the
comment that just because someone in a particular group is bad, doesn't
mean everyone is?


That will be a valid argument once Christians stop being self-righteous.

The Catholic position is that Catholics are not impeccable and that it is
normal to commit sins, even after baptism and confirmation.
In the United States about half of a huge population are Christian, so it is
not surprising that you can come up with a few examples of Christians
commiting sexual sins. Atheists don't really believe that a woman who has
sexual intercourse with a 14 year old boy is comitting a sin, anyway.
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User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 19 Aug 2006 04:00:40 AM
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Atheists don't really believe that a woman who has sexual intercourse with
a 14 year old boy is comitting a sin, anyway.

Lemme fix that for you, there were several misspellings:
Catholics don't really believe that a priest who has sexual intercourse with
a 14 year old boy is comitting a sin anyway.
There, that's better. No need to thank me.
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User: ""

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 19 Aug 2006 04:10:23 AM
Malcolm wrote:

"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message


"Sgeo" <sgeoster@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority

Funny how it's always the Christian who has that "lapse in judgement"

[snip]


Why do I have this feeling that if it was a Christian posting about an
atheist doing something wrong, everyone would quickly respond with the
comment that just because someone in a particular group is bad, doesn't
mean everyone is?


That will be a valid argument once Christians stop being self-righteous.

The Catholic position is

Ah, the Catholic position. I've heard of that one. It's the one where
the older guy is on top of the younger guy, shoving it up his backside,
right?
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-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 18 Aug 2006 08:04:19 PM
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:54:33 +0100, "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:


"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message


"Sgeo" <sgeoster@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155921450.303475.183530@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...


Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority

Funny how it's always the Christian who has that "lapse in judgement"

[snip]


Why do I have this feeling that if it was a Christian posting about an
atheist doing something wrong, everyone would quickly respond with the
comment that just because someone in a particular group is bad, doesn't
mean everyone is?


That will be a valid argument once Christians stop being self-righteous.

The Catholic position is that Catholics are not impeccable and that it is
normal to commit sins, even after baptism and confirmation.

Is it also the Catholic postion to commit crime at a disproportioanate
pace?
CATHOLICS
US 26%
Prison 39%
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_romcath.html
http://holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm

In the United States about half of a huge population are Christian,

WRONG, more like 75% of the population.
http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#religions

so it is not surprising that you can come up with a few examples of Christians
commiting sexual sins.

WRONG, More than 56,000 CHRISTIANS were in jail in 1997.
http://holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm
Why are you so dishonest?

Atheists don't really believe that a woman who has
sexual intercourse with a 14 year old boy is comitting a sin, anyway.

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a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2604 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
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User: "Morris Finsbury"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 18 Aug 2006 01:55:03 PM
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message

That will be a valid argument once Christians stop being self-righteous.

Ah! All those other 'selfless' religions: Judaism, Islam; come to think of
it, even the atheist is a tad self-righteous - especially the agnostic
extremists.
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User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 18 Aug 2006 02:19:46 PM
"Morris Finsbury" <qrnq_znatyrq_cvtrba@zfa.pbz> wrote in message
news:44e60d0c$0$1871$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...

"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message

That will be a valid argument once Christians stop being self-righteous.


Ah! All those other 'selfless' religions: Judaism, Islam; come to think of
it, even the atheist is a tad self-righteous - especially the agnostic
extremists.

The subject heading specifies Christian.
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User: "Morris Finsbury"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 18 Aug 2006 02:23:14 PM
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message

That will be a valid argument once Christians stop being self-righteous.


Ah! All those other 'selfless' religions: Judaism, Islam; come to think
of it, even the atheist is a tad self-righteous - especially the agnostic
extremists.


The subject heading specifies Christian.

Chill out dude, it's a bunch of newsgroups, not a court of law.
.
User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 18 Aug 2006 04:57:55 PM
"Morris Finsbury" <qrnq_znatyrq_cvtrba@zfa.pbz> wrote in message
news:44e613a7$0$2551$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk...

"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message

That will be a valid argument once Christians stop being
self-righteous.


Ah! All those other 'selfless' religions: Judaism, Islam; come to think
of it, even the atheist is a tad self-righteous - especially the
agnostic extremists.


The subject heading specifies Christian.


Chill out dude, it's a bunch of newsgroups, not a court of law.

This must be a new usage of "chill out" I'm not familiar with.
The Christians all share a rule book called the bible, and that rule book
has teachings, principles, and duties that encourage self-righteousness.
Thus such generalizations are justified concerning Christians. The same can
be said for many other religions.
Atheists, however, share only one thing, a lack of belief in gods. If they
express anything else, it is a personal expression external to atheism.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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User: "Gunner"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 20 Aug 2006 12:03:03 AM
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:55:03 +0100, "Morris Finsbury"
<qrnq_znatyrq_cvtrba@zfa.pbz> wrote:

"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message

That will be a valid argument once Christians stop being self-righteous.


Ah! All those other 'selfless' religions: Judaism, Islam; come to think of
it, even the atheist is a tad self-righteous - especially the agnostic
extremists.

Atheism, just another faith based belief system
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 20 Aug 2006 02:54:31 AM
"Gunner" <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:55:03 +0100, "Morris Finsbury"
<qrnq_znatyrq_cvtrba@zfa.pbz> wrote:

"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message

That will be a valid argument once Christians stop being self-righteous.


Ah! All those other 'selfless' religions: Judaism, Islam; come to think of
it, even the atheist is a tad self-righteous - especially the agnostic
extremists.

Atheism, just another faith based belief system

If by faith, you mean no faith, and if by belief, you mean no belief.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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User: "Malcolm"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 20 Aug 2006 02:03:02 PM
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message


If by faith, you mean no faith, and if by belief, you mean no belief.

A chimpanzee has no religious beliefs.
A atheist rejects the Christian God without accepting another religion.
The positions are rather different, and we need to distinguish between them.
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User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 20 Aug 2006 03:42:17 PM
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message


If by faith, you mean no faith, and if by belief, you mean no belief.

A chimpanzee has no religious beliefs.

Thus a chimpanzee is atheist.

A atheist rejects the Christian God without accepting another religion.

No. The atheist simply doesn't accept the Christian god. That's different.

The positions are rather different, and we need to distinguish between
them.

No. Lack of belief in a god is the single qualifier.
Atheism is simply the response "I don't believe you." to the claim "God
exists!"
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User: "Huge"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 20 Aug 2006 04:43:05 AM
On 2006-08-20, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:55:03 +0100, "Morris Finsbury"
<qrnq_znatyrq_cvtrba@zfa.pbz> wrote:

"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message

That will be a valid argument once Christians stop being self-righteous.


Ah! All those other 'selfless' religions: Judaism, Islam; come to think of
it, even the atheist is a tad self-righteous - especially the agnostic
extremists.

Atheism, just another faith based belief system


Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

Thanks for omitting a correct sig seperator. That way I can quote
your posting in it's entire incorrect glory. You don't often see a
nicely assertive posting that's completely wrong throughout.
--
"Other people are not your property."
[email me at huge [at] huge [dot] org [dot] uk]
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User: "Gunner"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 20 Aug 2006 01:49:07 PM
On 20 Aug 2006 09:43:05 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

On 2006-08-20, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:55:03 +0100, "Morris Finsbury"
<qrnq_znatyrq_cvtrba@zfa.pbz> wrote:

"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message

That will be a valid argument once Christians stop being self-righteous.


Ah! All those other 'selfless' religions: Judaism, Islam; come to think of
it, even the atheist is a tad self-righteous - especially the agnostic
extremists.

Atheism, just another faith based belief system


Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner



Thanks for omitting a correct sig seperator. That way I can quote
your posting in it's entire incorrect glory. You don't often see a
nicely assertive posting that's completely wrong throughout.

If your news reader is of such low quality that its unable to read the
automatic sig seperator..your issues are not my problem.
Nor is your denial that Atheism is indeed..just another faith based
belief system.
Tell me...how do you prove that the lack of hard data on black holes
means that they are simply a myth?
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 18 Aug 2006 08:07:01 PM
On 18 Aug 2006 10:17:30 -0700, "Sgeo" <sgeoster@gmail.com> wrote:


Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority

Funny how it's always the Christian who has that "lapse in judgement"

[snip]


Why do I have this feeling that if it was a Christian posting about an
atheist doing something wrong, everyone would quickly respond with the
comment that just because someone in a particular group is bad, doesn't
mean everyone is?

Because in reality, a Christian WILL post about how morally superior
Christianity is, how how atheism leads to all sorts of bad behavior.
This is why I repond to your ***** with news of pedophile
Christians. Where is that Christian moral superiority?
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AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2604 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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User: ""

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 18 Aug 2006 06:12:23 PM
Sgeo wrote:

Why do I have this feeling that if it was a Christian posting about an
atheist doing something wrong, everyone would quickly respond with the
comment that just because someone in a particular group is bad, doesn't
mean everyone is?

Note a mystic is ANY person who embraces ANY form of mystical nonsense,
eg ALL forms of godisms are embraced by people called mystics.
Not all mystics (ie irrational people,) irrational means to reject
reason as the ONLY means of man's knowledge, reason defined as
*non-contradictory identification and integration of sense data* eg
eyes nose feel touch sound, as the means of man's knowledge, not all
irrational people are evil people, HOWEVER ALL evil people most
certainly are irrational people, irrationalism IS therefore a
prerequisite of becoming an evil person.
Not all liars are evil people, but all evil people are liars.
Michael Gordge
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User: "Malcolm"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 18 Aug 2006 06:50:05 PM
<mikegordge@xtra.co.nz> wrote


Sgeo wrote:

Why do I have this feeling that if it was a Christian posting about an
atheist doing something wrong, everyone would quickly respond with the
comment that just because someone in a particular group is bad, doesn't
mean everyone is?


Note a mystic is ANY person who embraces ANY form of mystical nonsense,
eg ALL forms of godisms are embraced by people called mystics.

As long as you understand that you are not using the word "mystic" in the
sense used by Christians in their internal discussions.
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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User: ""

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 20 Aug 2006 01:28:20 AM
Malcolm wrote:

As long as you understand that you are not using the word "mystic" in the
sense used by Christians in their internal discussions.

Oh you needn't worry yourself over what I do and dont understand, the
real issue IS, that it is the christian mystics who need to understand
that their mystical irrational faiths are not an gnat's nut different
to the irrational nonsense which gives rise to any other form of
ancient tribalistic time warped witchcraft mystical mythical nonsenses.
It is rather amusing, if not gross ignorant arrogance how christian
mystics lambast the the maoris, the natives (a dark skinned tribe of
thigh slapping, nonsense screaming, so called Pre-Europeon inhabitants
of NZ) in New Zealand who have managed to stop all sorts of progress
and development projects based on the idea that where the development
is planned violates the maoris spiritual beliefs of what they call a
taniwha's presense, (pronounced tanny fars) which are maori gods and
evil spirits, similar I believe to the mystical nonsenses of the
American Indians and of course no different in principle to the *of the
mind piffle* nonsense giving rise to christianity.
Michael Gordge
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User: "Malcolm"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 20 Aug 2006 03:44:55 AM
<mikegordge@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:1156055300.346073.303210@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...


Malcolm wrote:

As long as you understand that you are not using the word "mystic" in the
sense used by Christians in their internal discussions.


Oh you needn't worry yourself over what I do and dont understand, the
real issue IS, that it is the christian mystics who need to understand
that their mystical irrational faiths are not an gnat's nut different
to the irrational nonsense which gives rise to any other form of
ancient tribalistic time warped witchcraft mystical mythical nonsenses.

The word you are looking for is "superstitious". "Mystic" means something
rather different. A witch isn't normally a mystic, for instance, though he
certainly beleives in the supernatural.
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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User: ""

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 19 Aug 2006 09:04:27 AM
Sgeo wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority

Funny how it's always the Christian who has that "lapse in judgement"

[snip]


Why do I have this feeling that if it was a Christian posting about an
atheist doing something wrong, everyone would quickly respond with the
comment that just because someone in a particular group is bad, doesn't
mean everyone is?

Atheists do not claim that being an atheist makes one morally
superior.
Xians *do* make the specious claim of "xian morality". When a
xian commits a crime, it proves the xians' claim is a lie, and it
deserves to be pointed out.
Is it "anti-xian" to identify xians who are paedophiles, thieves,
and murderers? No. Yang is debunking a lie. Unless you are
trying to propagate the lie, you wouldn't object to his posts.
If you don't want him to post such items, do one of two things:
1. Stop xians from committing crimes.
2. Stop claiming that "xianity = morality".
3. Stop claiming that xians who commit crimes "aren't xians".
THEN you can ask Yang to stop.
Bob Dog
Atheist #153 = 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3
EAC's chief cook and brainwasher
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"The people we starve and torture have an unsociable
tendency to steal and murder. We think it's because
their brows overhang."
- Ann Druyan
"Our religion is Christ, our politics Fatherland!"
- Hans Schemm, Bavarian Minister
of Education and Culture (1930s)
"Professor Telhami's accurate depiction of America's non-credibility
in the Muslim world encapsulates the consequences of a half century
of U.S. Middle Eastern policy that moved America from being the
much admired champion of liberty and self-government to the hated
and feared advocate of a new imperial order, one that has much the
same characteristics as nineteenth-century European imperialism:
military garrisons; economic penetration and control; support for
leaders, no matter how brutal and undemocratic, as long as they
obey the imperial power; and the exploitation and depletion of
natural resources."
- Anonymous, "Imperial Hubris" (2004)
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User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: Sound of Trumpet Christian Morality: Christian Ban Teacher Sentenced for Statutory Rape 19 Aug 2006 09:17:54 AM
On 19 Aug 2006 07:04:27 -0700,
wrote:

Sgeo wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority

Funny how it's always the Christian who has that "lapse in judgement"

[snip]


Why do I have this feeling that if it was a Christian posting about an
atheist doing something wrong, everyone would quickly respond with the
comment that just because someone in a particular group is bad, doesn't
mean everyone is?


Atheists do not claim that being an atheist makes one morally
superior.

Xians *do* make the specious claim of "xian morality". When a
xian commits a crime, it proves the xians' claim is a lie, and it
deserves to be pointed out.

Is it "anti-xian" to identify xians who are paedophiles, thieves,
and murderers? No. Yang is debunking a lie. Unless you are
trying to propagate the lie, you wouldn't object to his posts.

If you don't want him to post such items, do one of two things:
1. Stop xians from committing crimes.
2. Stop claiming that "xianity = morality".
3. Stop claiming that xians who commit crimes "aren't xians".
THEN you can ask Yang to stop.

BINGO.
And for the record, I don't claim that athiests are morally superior.
If being a Christian stops you from committing mass murder, I'd be the
first person to support your Christianity.
But obviously Christianity is not a path to moral behavior for
everyone.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2604 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
-----
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
.




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