Religions > Atheism > South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported By Women Who Regret Abortions
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South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
Life News ^ | 8/28/06 | Steven Ertelt
Posted on 08/28/2006 4:33:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- When it comes to evaluating opinions of
South Dakota residents on whether state voters should approve the
abortion ban the legislature approved earlier this year, one of the
best sources of input is talking to women who have had abortions
before. In many cases, they regret their abortions and want to see it
prohibited.
Kayla Brandt, who had an abortion three years ago and now wishes she
had kept her baby, is one of the leaders in the fight to uphold the ban
this November.
"I don't want anyone to feel what I did," Brandt told the Washington
Post in an interview.
What Brandt felt following the abortion is similar to the negative
reactions most women eventually have afterwards. The 29-year-old
financial auditor told the Post she had a "quiet misery" after the
abortion and when the procedure was finished, she said she immediately
felt an emptiness that led to a long period of grief.
"I was in a relationship and panicked and got scared and ashamed, and
thought an abortion was the means to fix my mistake," Brandt told the
Post. "I had made a mistake and thought that an abortion was the means
to fix my mistake."
She eventually saw herself as a "mother who was sadly stripped of her
child."
Brandt says she got involved in the campaign to promote the abortion
ban -- her face is on the front of the brochures distributed by the
group supporting it -- to protect women and unborn children.
"Where's the baby's choice?" Brandt asked. "What about the life of the
baby?"
In materials for the abortion ban campaign, Brandt talks more about her
abortion and the horrible feelings she experienced afterwards.
"The room started to spin and my hand instinctively reached down to
grasp my stomach. But all I felt now were excruciating cramps piercing
my side as I tried to hold in what had already been taken," she said.
"The doctor and nurse quickly gathered their things and left me there
alone. The door slammed shut behind them and ... I was left there,
traumatized and alone, as sheer emptiness set in immediately."
"From that moment on, I began merely existing in the hollow shell of
what was once a woman," Brandt added. "I stumbled through the days and
weeks that came as though I were sleepwalking."
Later, Brandt realized she desperately wanted the baby the abortion
took.
"I desperately longed to go back and offer my child protection. But I
could not go back," she said.
Instead, Brandt can only advocate for those mothers and babies who may
be traumatized by a future abortion.
"And so I turn my silence and shame into a voice that sings now. A
voice that speaks up for those who cannot speak for themselves and
protects our most vulnerable - our unborn children."
Related web sites:
Vote Yes for Life - http://voteyesforlife.com
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29 Aug 2006 10:02:20 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
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Flip-floppers!
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| User: "Bugman" |
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30 Aug 2006 08:47:40 AM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
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South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
Try talking to some people who regret having children. Regret being tied
down with a family when they weren't ready for it. Regret not being able to
go to college and get a proper education. There are all kinds of regretful
people.
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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02 Sep 2006 02:50:26 AM |
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On 29 Aug 2006 19:55:07 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
someone who said :
In many cases, they regret their abortions and want to see it
prohibited.
I am sure every mother who has a kid at least once in his life wishes
she had an abortion.
It is incredibly cruel to hand a child over to a mother who wished she
could murder it but was restrained by law. Imagine being such a
baby. That mother will make you miserable every day of your life. You
were far better off never being born.
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Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green, http://mindprod.com
See links to the Lebanon photos that Google censored at
http://mindprod.com/politics/israel.html
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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30 Aug 2006 01:39:32 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote:
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South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
WASHINGTON -- Social scientists have known for years that the
availability of legal abortion is not associated with long-term
psychological distress in women who use it. An eight-year longitudinal
study involving nearly 5,300 young women published in 1992 found that
the best predictor of well-being in women over the course of the study
was their well-being at the start of the study, not their income
level, job status, level of education or martial status or -- quite
specifically -- whether they had had an abortion. Now a new follow-up
study, published in the current edition of the American Psychological
Association's (APA) journal Professional Psychology: Research and
Practice finds that the same conclusion still applies regardless of
religious or racial differences.
The study, by psychologists Nancy Felipe Russo, Ph.D., of Arizona
State University and Amy J. Dabul, Ph.D., of Phoenix College, is
further analysis of data gathered from a national sample of 5,295
women aged 14 to 24 (in 1979) who were interviewed annually from 1979
to 1987. The women's well-being was assessed using a reliable and
valid measure of self-esteem in 1980 and again in 1987. This time, in
addition to looking at variables such as income, employment and
education, the researchers looked at race and religious beliefs and
practices to see if they had any effect on women's well-being after
having had an abortion.
They found that, overall, White women and Black women did not differ
statistically on measures of self-esteem. Approximately the same
proportion of Black women and White women reported having had an
abortion (14.6% and 14.9% respectively), but Black women had more
abortions than White women and Black women who had abortions were more
likely than White women to be mothers (86% vs 57%). Nonetheless,
having had an abortion (or more than one) had no relation with
self-esteem in either group: "For both Black women and White women,
prior self-esteem was the biggest predictor of subsequent
self-esteem," the authors note. The same held true when they compared
Black and White women who reported a religious affiliation and high or
low church attendance with those who were not religious.
Since the type of religion to which women who had an abortion belonged
also did not make a difference in their post-abortion well-being, the
researchers focused specifically on Catholic versus non-Catholic
women, given that the Catholic Church "has a consistent antiabortion
position that is vigorously promoted."
Their findings in this analysis were more complex: non- Catholic women
who had high church attendance and one abortion had the highest
self-esteem; non-Catholic women who had low church attendance and
repeat abortions had the lowest self-esteem. But at the same time,
high-church-attendance non-Catholic women with one abortion had
significantly higher self-esteem than did low-church- attendance
Catholic women with no abortions. "Although highly religious Catholic
women were slightly more likely to exhibit postabortion psychological
distress than other women," the researchers say, "this fact is
explained by lower pre-existing well-being."
Given these findings, the researchers ask: "Do highly distressed women
who have had an abortion exist?" And, they answer: "Yes. But their
distress is likely to be rooted in events and conditions that existed
before they became pregnant. Legal abortion per se does not increase a
woman's risk of negative well- being."
Article: "The Relationship of Abortion to Well-Being: Do Race and
Religion Make a Difference?" by Nancy Felipe Russo, Ph.D., Arizona
State University, and Amy J. Dabul, Ph.D., Phoenix College, in
Professional Psychology: Research and Practice, Vol. 28, No. 1.
(Full texts available from the APA Public Affairs Office.)
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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30 Aug 2006 01:09:00 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet a =E9crit :
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South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
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Well... duh!!! How about women who don't regret having one?
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| User: "Hyerdahl" |
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30 Aug 2006 09:13:43 AM |
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Parsifal wrote:
Sound of Trumpet a =E9crit :
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691546/posts
South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
Well... duh!!! How about women who don't regret having one?
I think the reasoning here is that women should be protected from
regret...by taking away their rights to do something regretable. :-)
So, let's start with food; women should not be allowed to eat anything
but raw fruit and veggies, so they don't regret weight gain; after
all, extra weight is bad for the heart, and more women are dying of
heart attacks these days.
:-)
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| User: "Avenger" |
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31 Aug 2006 12:01:10 AM |
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"Hyerdahl" <Hyerdahl3@aol.com> wrote in message
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Parsifal wrote:
Sound of Trumpet a écrit :
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691546/posts
South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
Well... duh!!! How about women who don't regret having one?
I think the reasoning here is that women should be protected from
regret...by taking away their rights to do something regretable. :-)
Well we protect the little darlings from everything else so why not? They
want protection from everything from a man looking at them to hearing
something they don't want to hear so why not take it all the way and protect
them from regretting an abortion :o)
So, let's start with food; women should not be allowed to eat anything
but raw fruit and veggies, so they don't regret weight gain;
That would be excellent in a country of lazy lardarses :o)
after
all, extra weight is bad for the heart, and more women are dying of
heart attacks these days.
:-)
Not enough. It is not until the age of 75 that the disparity between men and
females equalises a bit and even then men have a greater chance of dying
from heart disease. But then again at the age of 75 the average man has been
dead 3 years lol
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29 Aug 2006 11:15:12 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691546/posts
South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
Life News ^ | 8/28/06 | Steven Ertelt
Posted on 08/28/2006 4:33:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- When it comes to evaluating opinions of
South Dakota residents on whether state voters should approve the
abortion ban the legislature approved earlier this year, one of the
best sources of input is talking to women who have had abortions
before. In many cases, they regret their abortions and want to see it
prohibited.
Kayla Brandt, who had an abortion three years ago and now wishes she
had kept her baby, is one of the leaders in the fight to uphold the ban
this November.
"I don't want anyone to feel what I did," Brandt told the Washington
Post in an interview.
Right. Kayla Brandt is unwilling to take responsibility for her
actions and/or circumstances, and now she doesn't want other women
taking responsibility for their circumstances either.
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| User: "visions of effty" |
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30 Aug 2006 12:08:58 AM |
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<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691546/posts
South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
Life News ^ | 8/28/06 | Steven Ertelt
Posted on 08/28/2006 4:33:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- When it comes to evaluating opinions of
South Dakota residents on whether state voters should approve the
abortion ban the legislature approved earlier this year, one of the
best sources of input is talking to women who have had abortions
before. In many cases, they regret their abortions and want to see it
prohibited.
Kayla Brandt, who had an abortion three years ago and now wishes she
had kept her baby, is one of the leaders in the fight to uphold the ban
this November.
"I don't want anyone to feel what I did," Brandt told the Washington
Post in an interview.
Right. Kayla Brandt is unwilling to take responsibility for her
actions and/or circumstances, and now she doesn't want other women
taking responsibility for their circumstances either.
I wonder what the percentages are for people that regret *having* kids?
Maybe we should start writing laws based around peoples' regrets.
How many people would get married, for instance? Join the military? Get a
liberal arts degree?
Yes, people need to be protected from regrets. It's just that simple.
~e.
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30 Aug 2006 11:55:13 AM |
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"visions of effty" <what_happens_next@verizon.net> wrote in message
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<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691546/posts
South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
Life News ^ | 8/28/06 | Steven Ertelt
Posted on 08/28/2006 4:33:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- When it comes to evaluating opinions of
South Dakota residents on whether state voters should approve the
abortion ban the legislature approved earlier this year, one of the
best sources of input is talking to women who have had abortions
before. In many cases, they regret their abortions and want to see it
prohibited.
Kayla Brandt, who had an abortion three years ago and now wishes she
had kept her baby, is one of the leaders in the fight to uphold the ban
this November.
"I don't want anyone to feel what I did," Brandt told the Washington
Post in an interview.
Right. Kayla Brandt is unwilling to take responsibility for her
actions and/or circumstances, and now she doesn't want other women
taking responsibility for their circumstances either.
I wonder what the percentages are for people that regret *having* kids?
Maybe we should start writing laws based around peoples' regrets.
How many people would get married, for instance? Join the military? Get
a liberal arts degree?
Yes, people need to be protected from regrets. It's just that simple.
Gad, where would you start?!?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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30 Aug 2006 09:03:07 AM |
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<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691546/posts
South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
Life News ^ | 8/28/06 | Steven Ertelt
Posted on 08/28/2006 4:33:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- When it comes to evaluating opinions of
South Dakota residents on whether state voters should approve the
abortion ban the legislature approved earlier this year, one of the
best sources of input is talking to women who have had abortions
before. In many cases, they regret their abortions and want to see it
prohibited.
Kayla Brandt, who had an abortion three years ago and now wishes she
had kept her baby, is one of the leaders in the fight to uphold the ban
this November.
"I don't want anyone to feel what I did," Brandt told the Washington
Post in an interview.
Right. Kayla Brandt is unwilling to take responsibility for her
actions and/or circumstances, and now she doesn't want other women
taking responsibility for their circumstances either.
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to knock up
women and force them to abort.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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30 Aug 2006 11:48:10 PM |
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1156911312.147844.181740@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691546/posts
South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
Life News ^ | 8/28/06 | Steven Ertelt
Posted on 08/28/2006 4:33:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- When it comes to evaluating opinions of
South Dakota residents on whether state voters should approve the
abortion ban the legislature approved earlier this year, one of the
best sources of input is talking to women who have had abortions
before. In many cases, they regret their abortions and want to see it
prohibited.
Kayla Brandt, who had an abortion three years ago and now wishes she
had kept her baby, is one of the leaders in the fight to uphold the ban
this November.
"I don't want anyone to feel what I did," Brandt told the Washington
Post in an interview.
Right. Kayla Brandt is unwilling to take responsibility for her
actions and/or circumstances, and now she doesn't want other women
taking responsibility for their circumstances either.
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to knock up
women and force them to abort.
I've seen nobody argue that rape should be legal.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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30 Aug 2006 11:51:41 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691546/posts
South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
Life News ^ | 8/28/06 | Steven Ertelt
Posted on 08/28/2006 4:33:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- When it comes to evaluating opinions of
South Dakota residents on whether state voters should approve the
abortion ban the legislature approved earlier this year, one of the
best sources of input is talking to women who have had abortions
before. In many cases, they regret their abortions and want to see it
prohibited.
Kayla Brandt, who had an abortion three years ago and now wishes she
had kept her baby, is one of the leaders in the fight to uphold the ban
this November.
"I don't want anyone to feel what I did," Brandt told the Washington
Post in an interview.
Right. Kayla Brandt is unwilling to take responsibility for her
actions and/or circumstances, and now she doesn't want other women
taking responsibility for their circumstances either.
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to knock up
women and force them to abort.
I've seen nobody argue that rape should be legal.
You sure?
How about the rape porno site operators?
Are you now telling me they are committing fraud by publishing those rape
sites if it isn't rape at all?
Or, are you telling me those are evidence of actual rapes?
LOL!
Catch 22.
Which one is it?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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30 Aug 2006 11:59:31 PM |
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to knock up
women and force them to abort.
I've seen nobody argue that rape should be legal.
You sure?
Yes, hypocrite. Why do you think that you're entitled to "knock up"
women and force them to have babies?
How about the rape porno site operators?
Are you now telling me they are committing fraud by publishing those rape
sites if it isn't rape at all?
I suppose you think that Lord of the Rings is also fraud because it
never really happened?
Idiot.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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31 Aug 2006 12:43:47 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to knock
up
women and force them to abort.
I've seen nobody argue that rape should be legal.
You sure?
Yes, hypocrite.
I'm a hypocrite because you said, "I've seen nobody argue that rape should
be legal."?
Why do you think that you're entitled to "knock up"
women and force them to have babies?
What a joke.
You think knocking them up and forcing them to abort so you can pimp them
and rape them and tax people to buy your guns to defend yourself is a good
thing?
How about the rape porno site operators?
Are you now telling me they are committing fraud by publishing those rape
sites if it isn't rape at all?
I suppose you think that Lord of the Rings is also fraud because it
never really happened?
A case could be made since you brought it up for discussion.
Idiot.
Nah.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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31 Aug 2006 09:49:25 PM |
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to knock
up
women and force them to abort.
I've seen nobody argue that rape should be legal.
You sure?
Yes, hypocrite.
I'm a hypocrite because you said, "I've seen nobody argue that rape should
be legal."?
No, loser. You're a hypocrite because you never live by your own
rules.
Why do you think that you're entitled to "knock up"
women and force them to have babies?
What a joke.
What a coward and loser you are.
You think knocking them up and forcing them to abort so you can pimp them
No, you lying *****.
How about the rape porno site operators?
Are you now telling me they are committing fraud by publishing those rape
sites if it isn't rape at all?
I suppose you think that Lord of the Rings is also fraud because it
never really happened?
A case could be made since you brought it up for discussion.
You really are a dumshit, loser.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John D.Wentzky" |
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01 Sep 2006 11:22:04 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to
knock
up
women and force them to abort.
I've seen nobody argue that rape should be legal.
You sure?
Yes, hypocrite.
I'm a hypocrite because you said, "I've seen nobody argue that rape should
be legal."?
No, loser. You're a hypocrite because you never live by your own
rules.
What?
It is probably more the case that I do NOT live by your rules.
Now, why is it you can not recognize that me not living by your rules does
nothing to make me a hypocrite with regard to my rules?
Next time you make a rule you better be ready to support me in it; because I
do not play by anything but what I like and what I know people say is ok to
do.
If I do what people say is ok to do, then there is no method to go against
me if I do it.
Why do you think that you're entitled to "knock up"
women and force them to have babies?
What a joke.
What a coward and loser you are.
How so?
You think knocking them up and forcing them to abort so you can pimp them
No, you lying *****.
Why are you for the racketeering of PP and NARAL and NAF and the AMA and the
porno producers of abortion on demand then?
Why are you for the secret pimping and whoring agenda then?
Are you afraid for the records to be turned over now?
Still living in fear of that revelation being made a reality?
Still living in fear that people will be informed of those abortions in the
past?
Still bitching about a woman's right to choose to protect your own skin?
When will you learn to live up to the truth?
How about the rape porno site operators?
Are you now telling me they are committing fraud by publishing those
rape
sites if it isn't rape at all?
I suppose you think that Lord of the Rings is also fraud because it
never really happened?
A case could be made since you brought it up for discussion.
You really are a dumshit, loser.
Actuall,y you are the dumbshit who seems to be destined for loss.
Now, how about answering the question about the rape porno sites, idiot
coward who likes to run away from the pin down.
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Ray Fischer
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to
knock
up
women and force them to abort.
I've seen nobody argue that rape should be legal.
You sure?
Yes, hypocrite.
I'm a hypocrite because you said, "I've seen nobody argue that rape should
be legal."?
No, loser. You're a hypocrite because you never live by your own
rules.
What?
It is probably more the case that I do NOT live by your rules.
You think that it's fine to force women to give birth but it's not
fine to force women to get abortions. That's a double-standard.
Now, why is it you can not recognize that me not living by your rules does
You're arguing against your own psychosis.
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30 Aug 2006 11:57:23 AM |
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John D.Wentzky wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691546/posts
South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
Life News ^ | 8/28/06 | Steven Ertelt
Posted on 08/28/2006 4:33:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- When it comes to evaluating opinions of
South Dakota residents on whether state voters should approve the
abortion ban the legislature approved earlier this year, one of the
best sources of input is talking to women who have had abortions
before. In many cases, they regret their abortions and want to see it
prohibited.
Kayla Brandt, who had an abortion three years ago and now wishes she
had kept her baby, is one of the leaders in the fight to uphold the ban
this November.
"I don't want anyone to feel what I did," Brandt told the Washington
Post in an interview.
Right. Kayla Brandt is unwilling to take responsibility for her
actions and/or circumstances, and now she doesn't want other women
taking responsibility for their circumstances either.
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to knock up
women and force them to abort.
Even worse are the men whose attitudes are that they are entitled to
decide what a woman can or cannot do with her own body.
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30 Aug 2006 03:31:52 PM |
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"reality" <realitycheck@ausi.com> wrote in message
news:1156957043.642300.203720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
John D.Wentzky wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1156911312.147844.181740@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691546/posts
South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
Life News ^ | 8/28/06 | Steven Ertelt
Posted on 08/28/2006 4:33:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- When it comes to evaluating opinions of
South Dakota residents on whether state voters should approve the
abortion ban the legislature approved earlier this year, one of the
best sources of input is talking to women who have had abortions
before. In many cases, they regret their abortions and want to see it
prohibited.
Kayla Brandt, who had an abortion three years ago and now wishes she
had kept her baby, is one of the leaders in the fight to uphold the
ban
this November.
"I don't want anyone to feel what I did," Brandt told the Washington
Post in an interview.
Right. Kayla Brandt is unwilling to take responsibility for her
actions and/or circumstances, and now she doesn't want other women
taking responsibility for their circumstances either.
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to knock
up
women and force them to abort.
Even worse are the men whose attitudes are that they are entitled to
decide what a woman can or cannot do with her own body.
Would you care to address how MADD is qualified to make policy with regard
to what one does with their own body now?
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30 Aug 2006 04:45:33 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:31:52 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"reality" <realitycheck@ausi.com> wrote in message
news:1156957043.642300.203720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
John D.Wentzky wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1156911312.147844.181740@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691546/posts
South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
Life News ^ | 8/28/06 | Steven Ertelt
Posted on 08/28/2006 4:33:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- When it comes to evaluating opinions of
South Dakota residents on whether state voters should approve the
abortion ban the legislature approved earlier this year, one of the
best sources of input is talking to women who have had abortions
before. In many cases, they regret their abortions and want to see it
prohibited.
Kayla Brandt, who had an abortion three years ago and now wishes she
had kept her baby, is one of the leaders in the fight to uphold the
ban
this November.
"I don't want anyone to feel what I did," Brandt told the Washington
Post in an interview.
Right. Kayla Brandt is unwilling to take responsibility for her
actions and/or circumstances, and now she doesn't want other women
taking responsibility for their circumstances either.
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to knock
up
women and force them to abort.
Even worse are the men whose attitudes are that they are entitled to
decide what a woman can or cannot do with her own body.
Would you care to address how MADD is qualified to make policy with regard
to what one does with their own body now?
You are confusing laws and policies.
MADD is entitled to make any policy it wants for the group and its
members. If the members don't like the policies, they can and do
quit.
MADD does not and never will make LAWS that govern what you do with
your body. Laws are enacted only by the government, i.e., elected
representatives of the people, serving in the Congress, state
legislatures, city councils (where the laws are called ordinances),
etc.
Tom S.
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30 Aug 2006 11:25:28 PM |
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"Tom S" <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:31:52 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"reality" <realitycheck@ausi.com> wrote in message
news:1156957043.642300.203720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
John D.Wentzky wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1156911312.147844.181740@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691546/posts
South Dakota Abortion Ban Supported by Women Who Regret Abortions
Life News ^ | 8/28/06 | Steven Ertelt
Posted on 08/28/2006 4:33:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- When it comes to evaluating opinions of
South Dakota residents on whether state voters should approve the
abortion ban the legislature approved earlier this year, one of the
best sources of input is talking to women who have had abortions
before. In many cases, they regret their abortions and want to see
it
prohibited.
Kayla Brandt, who had an abortion three years ago and now wishes she
had kept her baby, is one of the leaders in the fight to uphold the
ban
this November.
"I don't want anyone to feel what I did," Brandt told the Washington
Post in an interview.
Right. Kayla Brandt is unwilling to take responsibility for her
actions and/or circumstances, and now she doesn't want other women
taking responsibility for their circumstances either.
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to knock
up
women and force them to abort.
Even worse are the men whose attitudes are that they are entitled to
decide what a woman can or cannot do with her own body.
Would you care to address how MADD is qualified to make policy with regard
to what one does with their own body now?
You are confusing laws and policies.
Erroneous assumption there.
MADD is entitled to make any policy it wants for the group and its
members.
What group? What members?
Are you telling me that abortionistic pussies are entitled to make policies
against persons because they live in fear that the children they DIDN'T have
aborted could be killed in a car ACCIDENT?
Why don't you grow up and act like a man instead of being a coward?
If the members don't like the policies, they can and do
quit.
Who cares about that?
Taxc dedecutions go a long way to neglecting the people of the USA in such
organizations.
If MADD was serious about reducing drinking and driving accidents and
obtaining justice for the victims they would pursue prodruct liability
claims against the manufacturers of the products which cause the problems
they are so against.
MADD does not and never will make LAWS that govern what you do with
your body.
*****. MADD's lawyers are ***** whipped ingrates who serve only
themselves and their abortionistic fear-filled feminists and misogynists. Do
you expect people to take MADD's word for gospel whem they suck up to the
corporate alcohol producers?
Who do you think funds them?
Laws are enacted only by the government, i.e., elected
representatives of the people, serving in the Congress, state
legislatures, city councils (where the laws are called ordinances),
etc.
It is very possible that all the unrepresentative things you mentioned there
will be disposed of.
Tom S.
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31 Aug 2006 05:38:30 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:25:28 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Tom S" <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
news:s91cf2harl57pueci0m7nq0nsmogms8ku8@4ax.com...
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:31:52 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
<snip>
Would you care to address how MADD is qualified to make policy with regard
to what one does with their own body now?
You are confusing laws and policies.
Erroneous assumption there.
Nope. It is a pretty obvious assumption. You are whining about MADD
making policies against what one does with one's body as if those
policies had the force of law. Their policies apply only to their
members and their marketing twonks.
MADD is entitled to make any policy it wants for the group and its
members.
What group?
M.A.D.D. - Mothers Against Drunk Driving
What members?
The one's who pay dues to belong to the group.
Are you telling me that abortionistic pussies are entitled to make policies
against persons because they live in fear that the children they DIDN'T have
aborted could be killed in a car ACCIDENT?
M.A.D.D. has nothing to do with abortion. But, ALL groups have the
right to make any and all policies that they want. BUT, those
policies are only enforceable against the members of the group. Their
policies have no power against you. They cannot force you to do
anything.
Why don't you grow up and act like a man instead of being a coward?
And just where did you get the idea that I am a coward, Johnnie-girl.
If the members don't like the policies, they can and do
quit.
Who cares about that?
Taxc dedecutions go a long way to neglecting the people of the USA in such
organizations.
If MADD was serious about reducing drinking and driving accidents and
obtaining justice for the victims they would pursue prodruct liability
claims against the manufacturers of the products which cause the problems
they are so against.
They can't. They are not an injured party and, therefore, have no
standing in the court to bring cases. They can fund someone who wants
to bring a suit, but they would lose. It has been shown numerous
times that a manufacturer cannot be held liable, if someone legally
buys their legal product and then abuses or misuses it. There is the
principle of responsibility involved here.
MADD does not and never will make LAWS that govern what you do with
your body.
*****. MADD's lawyers are ***** whipped ingrates who serve only
themselves and their abortionistic fear-filled feminists and misogynists. Do
you expect people to take MADD's word for gospel whem they suck up to the
corporate alcohol producers?
Who said they did??
Who do you think funds them?
Funds who??
Laws are enacted only by the government, i.e., elected
representatives of the people, serving in the Congress, state
legislatures, city councils (where the laws are called ordinances),
etc.
Tom S.
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01 Sep 2006 11:14:42 AM |
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"Tom S" <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:25:28 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
"Tom S" <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote in message
news:s91cf2harl57pueci0m7nq0nsmogms8ku8@4ax.com...
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:31:52 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:
<snip>
Would you care to address how MADD is qualified to make policy with
regard
to what one does with their own body now?
You are confusing laws and policies.
Erroneous assumption there.
Nope. It is a pretty obvious assumption. You are whining about MADD
making policies against what one does with one's body as if those
policies had the force of law. Their policies apply only to their
members and their marketing twonks.
MADD is entitled to make any policy it wants for the group and its
members.
What group?
M.A.D.D. - Mothers Against Drunk Driving
What members?
The one's who pay dues to belong to the group.
Are you telling me that abortionistic pussies are entitled to make
policies
against persons because they live in fear that the children they DIDN'T
have
aborted could be killed in a car ACCIDENT?
M.A.D.D. has nothing to do with abortion.
Grow a brain, idiot.
Roe V Wade has been the legal professions secret game for more than thirty
years already.
If you expect people to think that abortion party greek sorority sluts who
suck up to lawyers are not associated with MADD at all, you are an idiot.
Anyone can tell these liars who try to equate accidents with murder and who
deny murder when they themselves had it performed for their own benefit are
unqualified to dictate rules in any society on earth.
But, ALL groups have the right to make any and all policies that they
want.
Do you really want to enforce that for everyone, or are you barking that
sour tune again that shows you to be a discriminatory, unjust idiot?
BUT, those policies are only enforceable against the members of the group.
Their
policies have no power against you. They cannot force you to do
anything.
Weird that you would not recognize what felony DUI is yet.
Weird that you would side with the alcohol companies and the abortion
oligarchy that likes to punish others to fund their own pockets after they
sold them the very thing that caused the accident.
Why don't you grow up and act like a man instead of being a coward?
And just where did you get the idea that I am a coward, Johnnie-girl.
Coward or unfair person, does it make a difference?
If the members don't like the policies, they can and do
quit.
Who cares about that?
Tax dedecutions go a long way to neglecting the people of the USA in such
organizations.
If MADD was serious about reducing drinking and driving accidents and
obtaining justice for the victims they would pursue prodruct liability
claims against the manufacturers of the products which cause the problems
they are so against.
They can't.
Because they are charlatan whores for mammon.
Because they are blind to justice.
Because they run a beggar's breast cancer foundation after they overdosed on
birth control pills and aboritons for how many years?
LOL!
You think I repsect people who show me their real colors so much that are as
black as the deepest night?
They are not an injured party and, therefore, have no
standing in the court to bring cases. They can fund someone who wants
to bring a suit, but they would lose. It has been shown numerous
times that a manufacturer cannot be held liable, if someone legally
buys their legal product and then abuses or misuses it. There is the
principle of responsibility involved here.
That is nothing more than some excuse made by the anti-trust,
self-regulatory, oligopolistic, criminal mindset which does not want to
exercise repsonisbility for tis own actions.
Passing the buck there, aren't you?
Trying to place blame on those who bought your product after you pushed it
on them, huh?
With your attitude drug dealers are completely innocent.
MADD does not and never will make LAWS that govern what you do with
your body.
*****. MADD's lawyers are ***** whipped ingrates who serve only
themselves and their abortionistic fear-filled feminists and misogynists.
Do
you expect people to take MADD's word for gospel whem they suck up to the
corporate alcohol producers?
Who said they did??
Who do you think funds them?
Funds who??
Laws are enacted only by the government, i.e., elected
representatives of the people, serving in the Congress, state
legislatures, city councils (where the laws are called ordinances),
etc.
Tom S.
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30 Aug 2006 08:38:27 PM |
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John D.Wentzky wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
Right. Kayla Brandt is unwilling to take responsibility for her
actions and/or circumstances, and now she doesn't want other women
taking responsibility for their circumstances either.
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to knock up
women and force them to abort.
I'd tell you to stop pandering to idiots, Johnny, but the fact of the
matter is, you have nothing anyone, not even an idiot, would want.
Every time you post, there is a net loss of information. You are a
black hole of idiocy.
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30 Aug 2006 11:27:49 PM |
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<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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John D.Wentzky wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
Right. Kayla Brandt is unwilling to take responsibility for her
actions and/or circumstances, and now she doesn't want other women
taking responsibility for their circumstances either.
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to knock
up
women and force them to abort.
I'd tell you to stop pandering to idiots,
You? You think I am pandering to you?
Johnny, but the fact of the matter is, you have nothing anyone, not even
an idiot, would want.
I am glad you want nothing that I have.
If you turn yourself into a liar, you will regret it.
Every time you post, there is a net loss of information.
Your mind being incapable of absorbing additional information isn't my
problem.
You are a
black hole of idiocy.
Meaning you believe me.
LOL!
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31 Aug 2006 08:13:06 PM |
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John D.Wentzky wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
John D.Wentzky wrote:
<spartakus@my-deja.com> wrote...
Right. Kayla Brandt is unwilling to take responsibility for her
actions and/or circumstances, and now she doesn't want other
women taking responsibility for their circumstances either.
Typical misogynistic attitude that acts as if men are entitled to knock
up women and force them to abort.
I'd tell you to stop pandering to idiots, Johnny,
You? You think I am pandering to you?
"Annoying" is not spelled p-a-n-d-e-r-i-n-g.
but the fact of the matter is, you have nothing anyone, not even
an idiot, would want.
I am glad you want nothing that I have.
If you turn yourself into a liar, you will regret it.
So you acknowledge that I am not a liar, nor ever been a liar. Well
played, Johnny!
Every time you post, there is a net loss of information.
Your mind being incapable of absorbing additional information isn't my
problem.
No, it's YOUR problem, because with your posts, there is no
*additional* information. What information there is swirls around your
event horizon and then disappears, like a turd in a flushing toilet.
You are a black hole of idiocy.
Meaning you believe me.
LOL!
Thanks for demonstrating my point.
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