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Topic:	Religions > Atheism
User:	"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Date:	08 Nov 2006 02:27:28 AM
Object:	South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2006/SD/2006-11-08-abortion-ban_x.htm
SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) — A ballot measure that would ban nearly all
abortions in South Dakota was rejected on Tuesday.
With 59 percent of the precincts reporting, opponents of the ban had
55 percent, or 98,182 votes, to the supporters' 45 percent, or 79,444
votes.
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User: ""
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	11 Nov 2006 05:09:59 PM

The Chief Instigator wrote:

"Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

I could kill anyone who attempts to rape me, legally.

You wouldn't have to. They'd commit suicide as soon as they saw you.

Are you a homosexual? I believe you to be one. It explains your
irrational hatred against the unborn, you despise the male who has sex with a
female and even hate the child they conceive. You regard pregnancy as
slavery.

Reality doesn't care what you believe, little Nazi. (Never mind that Ray's a
parent,

How do you now that, did he tell you that? I'm surprised he
allowed some
woman to give birth to his child sicne he considers pregnancy
"slavery".
and likely far straighter than you'll ever be, of course.)
More garbage from the babykillers. You lot get more pathetic with each
passing hour.
I've been

pro-choice a bit more than two-thirds of my life, so far, as has my wife - and
you'll just have to torture yourself to try and figure out how we're parents
and grandparents.

I've been pro life all of my life and have never been able to fathom
why any
normal woman could kill her own unborn child. I've had children and
never
considered myself a "slave" like the cretin Fischer believes pregnancy
to be.

"Pro life from conception to birth and then slavery and execution".
Fischer Nov. 17th. 2005

You never did explain the "execution" bit of that moronic statement, so I
assume you are referring to the execution of the innocent human life in the
womb.

You never could understand much of what you read, child.

Then you explain it Brenda.

BTW What are these homo and baby killing posts doing in scj -Birds of
a feather?

Why did YOU crosspost to it? Get over it - your Third Reich got their
collective headds handed to them. I'm sorry it wasn't done a lot sooner.

Third Reich?? What the hell has WW2 got to do with the premediated
murder
of millions of innocent unborn babies!!!
snip rest of the idiots drivel.
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User: "The Chief Instigator"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	11 Nov 2006 07:54:07 PM

"Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com> writes:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

"Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

I could kill anyone who attempts to rape me, legally.

You wouldn't have to. They'd commit suicide as soon as they saw you.

Are you a homosexual? I believe you to be one. It explains your
irrational hatred against the unborn, you despise the male who has sex
with a female and even hate the child they conceive. You regard pregnancy
as slavery.

Reality doesn't care what you believe, little Nazi. (Never mind that Ray's
a parent,

How do you now that, did he tell you that? I'm surprised he allowed some
woman to give birth to his child sicne he considers pregnancy "slavery".

Some of us actually understand what we read, child. That you've excluded
yourself from that group of people is your choice, and your problem.

and likely far straighter than you'll ever be, of course.)

More garbage from the babykillers. You lot get more pathetic with each
passing hour.

So, arrogant little twit, how many babies have I killed? I know the exact
number: it also expresses your understanding of the issue. (In other words,
zero.)

I've been pro-choice a bit more than two-thirds of my life, so far, as has
my wife - and you'll just have to torture yourself to try and figure out
how we're parents and grandparents.

I've been pro life all of my life and have never been able to fathom why
any normal woman could kill her own unborn child. I've had children and never
considered myself a "slave" like the cretin Fischer believes pregnancy to be.

Good for you...you don't speak for anyone but yourself. You damn sure don't
decide what's right for any other woman.

"Pro life from conception to birth and then slavery and execution".
Fischer Nov. 17th. 2005
You never did explain the "execution" bit of that moronic statement, so
I assume you are referring to the execution of the innocent human life in
the womb.

You never could understand much of what you read, child.

Then you explain it Brenda.

What, you're too cowardly to ask Ray? He's the one that said it, in case you
forgot.

BTW What are these homo and baby killing posts doing in scj -Birds of
a feather?

Why did YOU crosspost to it? Get over it - your Third Reich got their
collective headds handed to them. I'm sorry it wasn't done a lot sooner.

Third Reich?? What the hell has WW2 got to do with the premediated murder
of millions of innocent unborn babies!!!

How old are you, anyway? Ignorance can be cured, but I suspect that with you,
we're dealing with genuine stupidity.

snip rest of the idiots drivel.

Why did you refuse to snip YOUR idiot's drivel?
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User: "Ray Fischer"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	11 Nov 2006 07:36:31 PM

> wrote:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

" <

> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

I could kill anyone who attempts to rape me, legally.

You wouldn't have to. They'd commit suicide as soon as they saw you.

Reality doesn't care what you believe, little Nazi. (Never mind that Ray's a
parent,

How do you now that, did he tell you that?

Yes, little nazi, I did.

I'm surprised he
allowed some
woman to give birth to his child sicne he considers pregnancy
"slavery".

You're so corrupted by hate that you can do little but lie.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "Sylvia R. Dickinson"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	11 Nov 2006 09:01:33 PM

wrote:

The Chief Instigator wrote:

" <

> writes:

Ray Fischer wrote:

John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

I could kill anyone who attempts to rape me, legally.

You wouldn't have to. They'd commit suicide as soon as they saw you.

Reality doesn't care what you believe, little Nazi. (Never mind that Ray's a
parent,

How do you now that, did he tell you that?

Yes.
Message ID: <8dnjqd$p32$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>

I'm surprised he allowed some
woman to give birth to his child sicne he considers pregnancy
"slavery".

No, stupid--learn to read,

and likely far straighter than you'll ever be, of course.)

More garbage from the babykillers.

You're an idiot.
<rest snipped>
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User: "Ray Fischer"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	10 Nov 2006 10:07:27 PM

> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

I could kill anyone who attempts to rape me, legally.

You wouldn't have to. They'd commit suicide as soon as they saw you.

Are you a homosexual?

If the choice was between you or another guy, I'd have to think a
while about the options.

I believe you to be one. It explains your
irrational
hatred against the unborn,

There's a simpler explanation: You're insane.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: ""
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	11 Nov 2006 05:00:34 PM

Ray Fischer wrote:

Boedicia@isp.com <Boedicia@isp.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

I could kill anyone who attempts to rape me, legally.

You wouldn't have to. They'd commit suicide as soon as they saw you.

Are you a homosexual?

If the choice was between you or another guy, I'd have to think a
while about the options.

I believe you to be one. It explains your
irrational
hatred against the unborn,

There's a simpler explanation: You're insane.

Says the imbecile who posts such gems as -
"You demand enslavement of pregnant women".
" The woman is not anybody's slave".
"She is not your slave".
"Pro life from conception to birth and then slavery and execution".
So every pregnant woman is automatically a slave according to you.
However
you neglected to say whose slave she is. As for "execution" just who
is being
executed other than the innocent unborn in the womb by some piece of
garbage
who is a) too lazy to raise a child. b) too cheap to raise a child c)
lacks the
guts to go after the male who impregnated her d)is a prostitute. As
for these
males who allow these pieces of garbage to kill their child there are
no words
available to call them what they really are. The "doctors" are
making money
from their abortion mills, what's *your* excuse?
.

User: "Ray Fischer"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	11 Nov 2006 07:37:08 PM

> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

I could kill anyone who attempts to rape me, legally.

You wouldn't have to. They'd commit suicide as soon as they saw you.

Are you a homosexual?

If the choice was between you or another guy, I'd have to think a
while about the options.

I believe you to be one. It explains your
irrational
hatred against the unborn,

There's a simpler explanation: You're insane.

And you're pissed because you DO think that women are to be treated
like slaves.
As I wrote: You're insane.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 12:16:11 PM

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:54:41 -0500, John D.Wentzky wrote:

"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:rln3l21ujp42fu1dh3chae5qac80t2spi5@4ax.com...

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 05:15:06 -0500 "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> said the following in alt.atheism and
I was immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's
"Messiah" for some reason...

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooooxY.com> wrote in message
news:JUh4h.358$mR4.79@tornado.texas.rr.com...

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
news:ILh4h.12572$GU5.619@bignews8.bellsouth.net...

A bad sign.
Pro-rapist, *****-loving whores and pimps are worse for the USA than
the
ban on abortions.

Cry me a river, Putzky. Bend over, grab those pudgy little ankles, and
let
Mamma Pelosi show you who's the new boss.

You fucking loser....but then some things never change.

Listen, criminal.
I can kill anyone who tries to ***** rape me, legally.

As usual, your grasp on the law is weak at best.

Projecting your faults isn't my problem.

Deadly force is only
accepted as a defense if you have a reasonable fear for your own life
or the life of another.

And, in this case, sch force is perfectly legitimate.

And you couldn't kill a roach with a sledgehammer, wussy.

I could kill anyone who attempts to rape me, legally.
Your ignorance of the law is your problem.

Look, it's not like somebody wanting to have sex with you is ever going to
be a problem...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
.

User: "Al Klein"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 03:29:41 PM

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:16:11 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

Look, it's not like somebody wanting to have sex with you is ever going to
be a problem...

If someone wanted to have sex with Wentzky I think it would be a
problem - but not for Wentzky.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
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one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected.
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 05:12:09 PM

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:29:41 -0500, Al Klein wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:16:11 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

Look, it's not like somebody wanting to have sex with you is ever going to
be a problem...

If someone wanted to have sex with Wentzky I think it would be a
problem - but not for Wentzky.

And illegal except in certain areas of Nevada...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
.

User: "Al Klein"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 07:09:49 PM

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:12:09 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:29:41 -0500, Al Klein wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:16:11 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

Look, it's not like somebody wanting to have sex with you is ever going to
be a problem...

If someone wanted to have sex with Wentzky I think it would be a
problem - but not for Wentzky.

And illegal except in certain areas of Nevada...

Bestiality is legal in Nevada?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
If you are open to the point of gullibility and have not an
ounce of skeptical sense in you, then you cannot distinguish
the useful ideas from the worthless ones
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	09 Nov 2006 09:32:31 AM

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:09:49 -0500, Al Klein wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:12:09 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:29:41 -0500, Al Klein wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:16:11 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

Look, it's not like somebody wanting to have sex with you is ever going to
be a problem...

If someone wanted to have sex with Wentzky I think it would be a
problem - but not for Wentzky.

And illegal except in certain areas of Nevada...

Bestiality is legal in Nevada?

There are animal prostitutes???
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
.

User: "Al Klein"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	09 Nov 2006 02:10:47 PM

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:32:31 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:09:49 -0500, Al Klein wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:12:09 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:29:41 -0500, Al Klein wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:16:11 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

Look, it's not like somebody wanting to have sex with you is ever going to
be a problem...

If someone wanted to have sex with Wentzky I think it would be a
problem - but not for Wentzky.

And illegal except in certain areas of Nevada...

Bestiality is legal in Nevada?

There are animal prostitutes???

There are prostitutes who would stoop low enough to do Wentzky? These
must truly be desperate times.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
If you are open to the point of gullibility and have not an
ounce of skeptical sense in you, then you cannot distinguish
the useful ideas from the worthless ones
- Carl Sagan, 1987.
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	09 Nov 2006 04:29:53 PM

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:10:47 -0500, Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:32:31 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:09:49 -0500, Al Klein wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:12:09 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:29:41 -0500, Al Klein wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:16:11 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

Look, it's not like somebody wanting to have sex with you is ever going to
be a problem...

If someone wanted to have sex with Wentzky I think it would be a
problem - but not for Wentzky.

And illegal except in certain areas of Nevada...

Bestiality is legal in Nevada?

There are animal prostitutes???

There are prostitutes who would stoop low enough to do Wentzky? These
must truly be desperate times.

Economic hardship and all...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
.

User: "Al Klein"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 11:54:12 AM

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 08:54:41 -0500, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

I could kill anyone who attempts to rape me, legally.

Whether you could kill him or not is a matter that would be decided by
who your rapist was. Some people, who are gay, could kill you without
involving all the fingers of one hand. Or break every bone in the
hand you use to try to kill him.
But you can't kill a rapist for committing rape and not spend time in
prison unless your jury is composed of homophobic bigots and the judge
is ignorant of the law - or you live in a homophobic state. Killing
when a reasonable person would not think that his life was in
immediate danger doesn't come under the "justifiable" exception.
--
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ounce of skeptical sense in you, then you cannot distinguish
the useful ideas from the worthless ones
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User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 12:01:38 PM

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 08:54:41 -0500, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

I could kill anyone who attempts to rape me, legally.

What is this?
Some ***** braggadocio?
I will not tolerate a threat upon my life, you idiot.

But you can't kill a rapist for committing rape and not spend time in
prison unless your jury is composed of homophobic bigots and the judge
is ignorant of the law - or you live in a homophobic state.

Wrong, idiot.
The law permits exterimating anyone who is a threat upon my life.
If you have HIV and attempt to rape me, I can legally kill you to stave off
the threat upon my life.
The law allows the use of lethal force to eliminate an imminent threat upon
one's life.

Killing
when a reasonable person would not think that his life was in
immediate danger doesn't come under the "justifiable" exception.

Listen idiot.
HIV is a lethal threat.
If you attempt to rape anyone while you carry HIV or AIDS you can be
eliminated legally.

--
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User: "Ray Fischer"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 12:16:08 PM

John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message

What is this?
Some ***** braggadocio?
I will not tolerate a threat upon my life, you idiot.

What are you going to do about it, ***** loser?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 12:28:39 PM

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message

What is this?
Some ***** braggadocio?
I will not tolerate a threat upon my life, you idiot.

What are you going to do about it, ***** loser?

Watch you fume.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

User: "Ray Fischer"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	10 Nov 2006 10:06:15 PM

John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message

What is this?
Some ***** braggadocio?
I will not tolerate a threat upon my life, you idiot.

What are you going to do about it, ***** loser?

Watch you fume.

That doesn't even make sense. YOU are the one bitching and moaning.
YOU are the one threatening to kill people. YOU are the one fuming.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "The Chief Instigator"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	10 Nov 2006 11:25:06 PM

(Ray Fischer) writes:

John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <

> wrote in message

John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message

What is this?
Some ***** braggadocio?
I will not tolerate a threat upon my life, you idiot.

What are you going to do about it, ***** loser?

Watch you fume.

That doesn't even make sense. YOU are the one bitching and moaning.
YOU are the one threatening to kill people. YOU are the one fuming.

Have you noticed that a lot of Wentzky's ranting can be passed off as him
talking to himself in public?
--
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User: "Al Klein"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 01:58:59 PM

On 08 Nov 2006 18:16:08 GMT,

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

John D.Wentzky <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message

What is this?
Some ***** braggadocio?
I will not tolerate a threat upon my life, you idiot.

What are you going to do about it, ***** loser?

He's going to drown his rapist in tears. Most homophobic pussies
couldn't kill a large rat unless they used a shotgun.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can
solve them."
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User: "Al Klein"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 01:57:51 PM

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:01:38 -0500, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:6664l2h2c1b9gpk67m9iei4io5h57eom8j@4ax.com...

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 08:54:41 -0500, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

I could kill anyone who attempts to rape me, legally.

What is this?
Some ***** braggadocio?
I will not tolerate a threat upon my life, you idiot.

The law doesn't consider rape to be a threat on your life.

Wrong, idiot.

Nope - it's the way the law works. The law doesn't allow you to
assume that your rapist will kill you.

The law permits exterimating anyone who is a threat upon my life.

And rape is a threat against your honor, not your life.

If you have HIV and attempt to rape me

The law doesn't allow you to assume someone's medical status. If you
make the claim as part of your defense, it's an affirmative defense,
so you'd have to prove that you knew that her was HIV positive BEFORE
you killed him.

I can legally kill you to stave off the threat upon my life.

Since rape isn't a threat against your life, you can't.

The law allows the use of lethal force to eliminate an imminent threat upon
one's life.

Rape is not an immediate (the only allowance) threat against your life
UNLESS the person is in a transmissive state of AIDS, which you
wouldn't know. The law doesn't allow you to use this affirmative
defense unless you can show, beyond a reasonable doubt, that you knew,
before you killed the rapist, that he was in such a state.

Killing
when a reasonable person would not think that his life was in
immediate danger doesn't come under the "justifiable" exception.

Listen idiot.
HIV is a lethal threat.

Rape isn't injection of HIV.

If you attempt to rape anyone while you carry HIV or AIDS you can be
eliminated legally.

As I said, the law requires that you KNOW, beyond a reasonable doubt,
that the person you kill was HIV positive and in a transmissive state.
Assuming it, just because you're homophobic, is about as much defense
as "I felt like killing him". It'll get you a free needle in your arm
or a long vacation with striped sunlight.
But if you think you know the law better, go ahead and try to kill the
next man who tries to rape you. Just don't cry when you become Tiny's
girlfriend when you're inside for life.
--
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User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 05:38:35 PM

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:01:38 -0500, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 08:54:41 -0500, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

I could kill anyone who attempts to rape me, legally.

What is this?
Some ***** braggadocio?
I will not tolerate a threat upon my life, you idiot.

The law doesn't consider rape to be a threat on your life.

Another miss, you criminal infection supporter.
The law fully permits warding off a threat to my life.

Wrong, idiot.

Nope - it's the way the law works. The law doesn't allow you to
assume that your rapist will kill you.

The law allows me to exterminate anyone who is HIV positive to prevent
becoming infected if they threaten my life.
I wll not tolerate you evil wimps who think that spreading AIDS is ok.

The law permits exterimating anyone who is a threat upon my life.

And rape is a threat against your honor, not your life.

*****, you idiot.
AIDS is a threat upon anyone's life.

If you have HIV and attempt to rape me

Why?
A simple blood test would be enough to confirm a person's HIV status.

I can legally kill you to stave off the threat upon my life.

Since rape isn't a threat against your life, you can't.

I am talking about warding off infection, you idiot.

The law allows the use of lethal force to eliminate an imminent threat
upon
one's life.

Rape is not an immediate (the only allowance) threat against your life
UNLESS the person is in a transmissive state of AIDS, which you
wouldn't know.

When will you stop lying in support of evil wimps?

The law doesn't allow you to use this affirmative
defense unless you can show, beyond a reasonable doubt, that you knew,
before you killed the rapist, that he was in such a state.

So, ifIi said I knew and the attacker was known to be HIV positive, what
would you say to that?

Killing
when a reasonable person would not think that his life was in
immediate danger doesn't come under the "justifiable" exception.

Listen idiot.
HIV is a lethal threat.

Rape isn't injection of HIV.

You are an idiot.

If you attempt to rape anyone while you carry HIV or AIDS you can be
eliminated legally.

As I said, the law requires that you KNOW, beyond a reasonable doubt,
that the person you kill was HIV positive and in a transmissive state.
Assuming it, just because you're homophobic, is about as much defense
as "I felt like killing him". It'll get you a free needle in your arm
or a long vacation with striped sunlight.

But if you think you know the law better, go ahead and try to kill the
next man who tries to rape you. Just don't cry when you become Tiny's
girlfriend when you're inside for life.

Who would even know if I killed someone who tried to rape me?
How would you know?
You wouldn't.

--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not
prove anything."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
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User: "Al Klein"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 07:35:00 PM

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 18:38:35 -0500, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:01:38 -0500, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 08:54:41 -0500, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

I could kill anyone who attempts to rape me, legally.

What is this?
Some ***** braggadocio?
I will not tolerate a threat upon my life, you idiot.

The law doesn't consider rape to be a threat on your life.

Another miss, you criminal infection supporter.
The law fully permits warding off a threat to my life.

But the law in your state doesn't consider rape to be a specific
threat to your life. If you claim it is, it's an affirmative defense
so you have to prove that you KNEW, not that you could reasonably
assume, but KNEW with some degree of certainty, that the rape would be
the proximate cause of your death. The law is pretty clear on
affirmative defense.

The law allows me to exterminate anyone who is HIV positive to prevent
becoming infected if they threaten my life.

*IF* you knew, with certainty, BEFORE you killed him, that he was HIV
positive AND infectious (not everyone who's HIV positive is
infectious) AND that there was no other way to save your life than to
kill him. (Killing if you could get away, or if you could
incapacitate him, or prevent the rape in ANY other way, is homicide.)

I wll not tolerate you evil wimps who think that spreading AIDS is ok.

But you'll tolerate evil little 42 year old virgins who think it's
okay to kill someone because he thinks the person is gay, he thinks
the person is HIV positive and infectious, he thinks the person is
trying to rape him and he doesn't want to bother to see if he has any
alternatives to killing.
Boy, if it ever happened I hope I'm on your jury. You'd be SO toast.
Of course it would never happen because your attorney would never
allow you to try using that defense unless he had a jury that was as
homophobic as you are. ONE sane person on the jury and you'd be
retried.

The law permits exterimating anyone who is a threat upon my life.

And rape is a threat against your honor, not your life.

*****, you idiot.
AIDS is a threat upon anyone's life.

IF you can prove that you knew he had AIDS before you killed him.

If you have HIV and attempt to rape me

Why?

Because that's the law in your state. If you use an affirmative
defense you have to prove that you had the evidence of your defense
before you committed the act.

A simple blood test would be enough to confirm a person's HIV status.

AFTER you killed him, which wouldn't be admissible in an affirmative
defense.

I can legally kill you to stave off the threat upon my life.

Since rape isn't a threat against your life, you can't.

I am talking about warding off infection, you idiot.

And the law says that assuming that he's infected isn't admissible.
You have to KNOW that he was BEFORE you killed him. If you don't like
that law, move to a country under Sharia law. Assertions are
admissible there, and a man's honor is more important than a life. Not
in this country.

The law allows the use of lethal force to eliminate an imminent threat
upon
one's life.

Rape is not an immediate (the only allowance) threat against your life
UNLESS the person is in a transmissive state of AIDS, which you
wouldn't know.

When will you stop lying in support of evil wimps?

As soon as I start - which hasn't happened yet. Or are you claiming
that the law in your state is lying?

The law doesn't allow you to use this affirmative
defense unless you can show, beyond a reasonable doubt, that you knew,
before you killed the rapist, that he was in such a state.

So, ifIi said I knew and the attacker was known to be HIV positive, what
would you say to that?

You'd have to PROVE that you know. Assertion isn't admissible, it's
hearsay.

Killing
when a reasonable person would not think that his life was in
immediate danger doesn't come under the "justifiable" exception.

Listen idiot.
HIV is a lethal threat.

Rape isn't injection of HIV.

You are an idiot.

I'm not the one who's going to have to worry about Tiny if you kill
someone. But you'll make a nice couple - from his viewpoint at least.
And, hey, you won't be a virgin any more. Not as a receiver, anyway.

Who would even know if I killed someone who tried to rape me?

Well, there'd be a body. Unless you have access to a crematorium and
a few miracles. Have any unsolved murders in your area lately?
You're not very bright, are you? </rhetorical question>
--
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Bozo the Clown."
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User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 04:28:36 AM

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 05:15:06 -0500, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooooxY.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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A bad sign.
Pro-rapist, *****-loving whores and pimps are worse for the USA than the
ban on abortions.

Cry me a river, Putzky. Bend over, grab those pudgy little ankles, and let
Mamma Pelosi show you who's the new boss.

You fucking loser....but then some things never change.

Listen, criminal.
I can kill anyone who tries to ***** rape me, legally.

The only people who want to ***** rape you are your GOPedophile friends.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
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EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2836 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 04:33:21 AM

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 05:15:06 -0500, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooooxY.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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A bad sign.
Pro-rapist, *****-loving whores and pimps are worse for the USA than
the
ban on abortions.

Cry me a river, Putzky. Bend over, grab those pudgy little ankles, and
let
Mamma Pelosi show you who's the new boss.

You fucking loser....but then some things never change.

Listen, criminal.
I can kill anyone who tries to ***** rape me, legally.

The only people who want to ***** rape you are your GOPedophile friends.

I'm not a child, you idiot.

-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and
counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2836 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

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User: "The Chief Instigator"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 08:53:29 AM

"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 05:15:06 -0500, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooooxY.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
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A bad sign. Pro-rapist, *****-loving whores and pimps are worse for
the USA than the ban on abortions.

Cry me a river, Putzky. Bend over, grab those pudgy little ankles, and
let Mamma Pelosi show you who's the new boss.
You fucking loser....but then some things never change.

Listen, criminal.
I can kill anyone who tries to ***** rape me, legally.

The only people who want to ***** rape you are your GOPedophile friends.

I'm not a child, you idiot.

You're doing an uncanny impersonation of one...at the age of 45, no less.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 3, Hamilton 2 (SO) (November 4)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, November 9 at Iowa, 7:05
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User: "John D.Wentzky"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 08:58:34 AM

"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> writes:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 05:15:06 -0500, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooooxY.com> wrote in message
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"John D.Wentzky" <johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote in message
news:ILh4h.12572$GU5.619@bignews8.bellsouth.net...

A bad sign. Pro-rapist, *****-loving whores and pimps are worse for
the USA than the ban on abortions.

Cry me a river, Putzky. Bend over, grab those pudgy little ankles, and
let Mamma Pelosi show you who's the new boss.

You fucking loser....but then some things never change.

Listen, criminal.
I can kill anyone who tries to ***** rape me, legally.

The only people who want to ***** rape you are your GOPedophile friends.

I'm not a child, you idiot.

You're doing an uncanny impersonation of one...at the age of 45, no less.

You're the baby killing , gay marriage charlatan.
When will you grow up?

--
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LAST GAME: Houston 3, Hamilton 2 (SO) (November 4)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, November 9 at Iowa, 7:05

User: "The Chief Instigator"
Title: Re: South Dakota Voters Reject Pro-Rapist Abortion Ban	08 Nov 2006 10:51:24 AM