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"SReeseMe" |
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25 Aug 2004 03:40:28 PM |
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Speaking Personally |
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
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| User: "a.a.#2066" |
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26 Aug 2004 09:03:28 PM |
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"SReeseMe" <sreeseme@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com...
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Ditto. However...
Could somebody explain, in word of few syllables, to geographically
challenged people (i.e. not living in the US), the difference between the
platforms of the two major presidential candidates, please?
From abroad, it seems like Kerry is a not-so-lite "Bush-lite", trying to
out-Bush Bush himself (http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0824-15.htm).
Escalating US military involvement in Iraq (memories of LBJ), not
repudiating unilateral military action by the US and so on...
What's the diff' and why should anyone care?
Thanks in advance.
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| User: "jwk" |
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27 Aug 2004 09:05:37 AM |
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"a.a.#2066" <neslein@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<83a84$412e96a9$45c2b2c9$9366@nf1.news-service-com>...
"SReeseMe" <sreeseme@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com...
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Ditto. However...
Could somebody explain, in word of few syllables, to geographically
challenged people (i.e. not living in the US), the difference between the
platforms of the two major presidential candidates, please?
From abroad, it seems like Kerry is a not-so-lite "Bush-lite", trying to
out-Bush Bush himself (http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0824-15.htm).
Escalating US military involvement in Iraq (memories of LBJ), not
repudiating unilateral military action by the US and so on...
What's the diff' and why should anyone care?
Thanks in advance.
Bush took a thriving country with an economic surplus in the billions
and drove it into the mud with a deficit in the billions. He helped
corporations move jobs out of the country and caused a recession. He
took money from the middle class, gave it to the wealthy, and called
it a tax break. He started a war where none was necessary, against
the resolution Congress passed, wither because the other country's
leader had tried to kill his dad year ago, or because they were
producing too much oil and keeping the price down. (The Bush's are
oil people. So are the Cheney's.) And he is trying to destroy our
secular constitution/government and replace it with a Christian
fundamentalist one.
Against that who cares what Kerry would do. He couldn't possibly be
half as bad.
jwk
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| User: "Apostate" |
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| Title: Re: Speaking Personally |
26 Aug 2004 09:43:20 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 22:03:28 -0400, "a.a.#2066" <neslein@hotmail.com> wrote:
"SReeseMe" <sreeseme@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com...
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Ditto. However...
Could somebody explain, in word of few syllables,
I'll try to contain my usual Latinate prose.
to geographically
challenged people (i.e. not living in the US), the difference between the
platforms of the two major presidential candidates, please?
From abroad, it seems like Kerry is a not-so-lite "Bush-lite", trying to
out-Bush Bush himself (http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0824-15.htm).
Escalating US military involvement in Iraq (memories of LBJ), not
repudiating unilateral military action by the US and so on...
What's the diff' and why should anyone care?
Thanks in advance.
It's a well-rehearsed maxim in the US that a halfway-intelligent candidate who's
*not* up to no good can't campaign on exactly what he's thinking, because it comes out
sounding like an attack against stupid and crooked people, two groups without whose
marginal tolerance no candidate can succeed. Since you (quite reasonably, from a
non-USAian pov) raise foreign military adventures as a criterion for distinguishing the
likely behavior of the two prospective fingers on the button, Kerry's "I'm not that much
less macho than shrub" locutions should be understood to mean "it'll be a cold day in
hell before I do anything as defiantly stupid as committing the US's armed might, the
lives and well-being of its uniformed youth, and indeterminate tens of billions of dollars
annually, for an open-ended span of years, in a war so despised by our allies-in-chief
(that is to say, not paying overmuch attention to Bangla Desh and the like) that failing
to get them onboard costs the US the loss of all respect and cooperation in the UN,
to say nothing of creating recruiting opportunities Bin Laden usually only imagines
just before ejaculation, in his dreams." If it doesn't sound that way to you, that's
because the "Liberal" media wait in the tall grass for anyone who says what he means,
unambiguously, so they can pounce, feed ravenously, and stick their hands up the voters'
asses to make them dance to the new tune. Truth is, elections are driven by hormones
and slogans by about 5:1 over rational consideration of issues that matter outside of
football imagery fantasy.
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/Apostate
atheist #1931 I've found it!
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Supernumerary Deputy Director, Department of Redundancy Department
plonked by Lani_girl, first post; Billions Served!
I doubt, therefore I might be.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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25 Aug 2004 04:36:02 PM |
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"SReeseMe" <sreeseme@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com...
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Amen, brother! :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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25 Aug 2004 06:22:11 PM |
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(SReeseMe) wrote in news:20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-
m11.aol.com:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Election? I hadn't noticed...been too busy reading about politicians! 8)
Still...I'm downloading 1200 or so posts a day and skinning it all down to
between 25 and 50 posts I'm willing to read, between the fundie trolls, the
political screaming, and all that. It used to be at least 100 posts. The
upside is...I've shot down 5 simulated Nazi BF-109's, destroyed 5 of their
airfields, two factories, a couple of Panzers, and a number of bridges.
Pretty neat, flying a P-38J Lightning with unlimited ammo and fuel :)
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Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
The Fundamentalist
== Knows no greater joy than the sound of his own voice.
== Knows no greater terror than the god he creates in his own image.
== Knows no greater evil than an unfettered mind.
== Knows no greater blasphemy than being told "NO."
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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25 Aug 2004 03:51:44 PM |
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(SReeseMe) wrote in news:20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-
m11.aol.com:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Sing it, brother. I'd be happiest if every candidate in every election in
the country were killed by a meteor strike.
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Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
Campaign Cartographer now available
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| User: "MorganLitcher" |
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26 Aug 2004 09:09:54 AM |
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Subject: Speaking Personally
From: (SReeseMe)
Date: 8/25/2004 4:40 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
I am tired of the Olympics too.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Speaking Personally |
26 Aug 2004 01:31:27 AM |
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In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>,
(SReeseMe) wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Don't worry, it already is. The machines have made up their minds.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Speaking Personally |
26 Aug 2004 07:18:51 AM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in news:jhachm-C31624.23312725082004
@news.giganews.com:
In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>,
sreeseme@aol.com (SReeseMe) wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Don't worry, it already is. The machines have made up their minds.
Hey, no problem, we'll just have Jimmy Carter supervise the elections and
certify them like he just did in Venezuela.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Speaking Personally |
28 Aug 2004 02:13:48 AM |
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In article <Xns9551549487927fstone69@207.69.154.205>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in news:jhachm-C31624.23312725082004
@news.giganews.com:
In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>,
sreeseme@aol.com (SReeseMe) wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Don't worry, it already is. The machines have made up their minds.
Hey, no problem, we'll just have Jimmy Carter supervise the elections and
certify them like he just did in Venezuela.
So are you saying that if such were the case, Hugo Chavez would be
sworn in as our 43rd president?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Speaking Personally |
29 Aug 2004 01:54:47 AM |
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In article <jhachm-165236.00134828082004@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote:
In article <Xns9551549487927fstone69@207.69.154.205>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in news:jhachm-C31624.23312725082004
@news.giganews.com:
In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>,
sreeseme@aol.com (SReeseMe) wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Don't worry, it already is. The machines have made up their minds.
Hey, no problem, we'll just have Jimmy Carter supervise the elections and
certify them like he just did in Venezuela.
So are you saying that if such were the case, Hugo Chavez would be
sworn in as our 43rd president?
Oh, well. I guess that sarcasm is wasted on those who don't have the
wit to comprehend it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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29 Aug 2004 07:54:01 AM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-853B4C.23544728082004@news.giganews.com:
In article <jhachm-165236.00134828082004@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote:
In article <Xns9551549487927fstone69@207.69.154.205>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-C31624.23312725082004 @news.giganews.com:
In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>,
sreeseme@aol.com (SReeseMe) wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Don't worry, it already is. The machines have made up their
minds.
Hey, no problem, we'll just have Jimmy Carter supervise the
elections and certify them like he just did in Venezuela.
So are you saying that if such were the case, Hugo Chavez would be
sworn in as our 43rd president?
Oh, well. I guess that sarcasm is wasted on those who don't have the
wit to comprehend it.
Whose? Yours or Jimmy's? His was *much* better.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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28 Aug 2004 09:28:50 AM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-165236.00134828082004@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns9551549487927fstone69@207.69.154.205>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-C31624.23312725082004 @news.giganews.com:
In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>,
sreeseme@aol.com (SReeseMe) wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Don't worry, it already is. The machines have made up their minds.
Hey, no problem, we'll just have Jimmy Carter supervise the elections
and certify them like he just did in Venezuela.
So are you saying that if such were the case, Hugo Chavez would be
sworn in as our 43rd president?
So are you saying that Jimmy Carter did a proper job of supervising the
Venezuelan election and honorably certified the result?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Jez" |
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28 Aug 2004 10:37:09 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-165236.00134828082004@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns9551549487927fstone69@207.69.154.205>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-C31624.23312725082004 @news.giganews.com:
In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>,
sreeseme@aol.com (SReeseMe) wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Don't worry, it already is. The machines have made up their minds.
Hey, no problem, we'll just have Jimmy Carter supervise the elections
and certify them like he just did in Venezuela.
So are you saying that if such were the case, Hugo Chavez would be
sworn in as our 43rd president?
So are you saying that Jimmy Carter did a proper job of supervising the
Venezuelan election and honorably certified the result?
Kinda strange that 13 of your Senators have asked the UN to supervise
the coming US elections.
I wonder why...................
ah...of course the stolen 2000 election !!
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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28 Aug 2004 12:15:12 PM |
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Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:4130a6cb$0$20253$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-165236.00134828082004@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns9551549487927fstone69@207.69.154.205>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-C31624.23312725082004 @news.giganews.com:
In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>,
sreeseme@aol.com (SReeseMe) wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Don't worry, it already is. The machines have made up their minds.
Hey, no problem, we'll just have Jimmy Carter supervise the
elections and certify them like he just did in Venezuela.
So are you saying that if such were the case, Hugo Chavez would be
sworn in as our 43rd president?
So are you saying that Jimmy Carter did a proper job of supervising
the Venezuelan election and honorably certified the result?
Kinda strange that 13 of your Senators have asked the UN to supervise
the coming US elections.
I wonder why...................
ah...of course the stolen 2000 election !!
Even stranger that all 13 of those Senators are from the party that
tried to steal the election in 2000. But like I say, it's OK with me as
long as they uphold the same high standards as Jimmy Peanut in the
recent Chavez election.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Jez" |
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29 Aug 2004 10:28:25 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:4130a6cb$0$20253$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-165236.00134828082004@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns9551549487927fstone69@207.69.154.205>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-C31624.23312725082004 @news.giganews.com:
In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>,
sreeseme@aol.com (SReeseMe) wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Don't worry, it already is. The machines have made up their minds.
Hey, no problem, we'll just have Jimmy Carter supervise the
elections and certify them like he just did in Venezuela.
So are you saying that if such were the case, Hugo Chavez would be
sworn in as our 43rd president?
So are you saying that Jimmy Carter did a proper job of supervising
the Venezuelan election and honorably certified the result?
Kinda strange that 13 of your Senators have asked the UN to supervise
the coming US elections.
I wonder why...................
ah...of course the stolen 2000 election !!
Even stranger that all 13 of those Senators are from the party that
tried to steal the election in 2000. But like I say, it's OK with me as
long as they uphold the same high standards as Jimmy Peanut in the
recent Chavez election.
Still griping because the Bush coup failed eh ?
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Speaking Personally |
29 Aug 2004 10:48:42 AM |
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Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:4131f641$0$20244$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:4130a6cb$0$20253$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-165236.00134828082004@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns9551549487927fstone69@207.69.154.205>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-C31624.23312725082004 @news.giganews.com:
In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>,
sreeseme@aol.com (SReeseMe) wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Don't worry, it already is. The machines have made up their
minds.
Hey, no problem, we'll just have Jimmy Carter supervise the
elections and certify them like he just did in Venezuela.
So are you saying that if such were the case, Hugo Chavez would be
sworn in as our 43rd president?
So are you saying that Jimmy Carter did a proper job of supervising
the Venezuelan election and honorably certified the result?
Kinda strange that 13 of your Senators have asked the UN to supervise
the coming US elections.
I wonder why...................
ah...of course the stolen 2000 election !!
Even stranger that all 13 of those Senators are from the party that
tried to steal the election in 2000. But like I say, it's OK with me
as long as they uphold the same high standards as Jimmy Peanut in the
recent Chavez election.
Still griping because the Bush coup failed eh ?
Who is that in the White House again?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Jez" |
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29 Aug 2004 11:31:55 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:4131f641$0$20244$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:4130a6cb$0$20253$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-165236.00134828082004@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns9551549487927fstone69@207.69.154.205>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-C31624.23312725082004 @news.giganews.com:
In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>,
sreeseme@aol.com (SReeseMe) wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Don't worry, it already is. The machines have made up their
minds.
Hey, no problem, we'll just have Jimmy Carter supervise the
elections and certify them like he just did in Venezuela.
So are you saying that if such were the case, Hugo Chavez would be
sworn in as our 43rd president?
So are you saying that Jimmy Carter did a proper job of supervising
the Venezuelan election and honorably certified the result?
Kinda strange that 13 of your Senators have asked the UN to supervise
the coming US elections.
I wonder why...................
ah...of course the stolen 2000 election !!
Even stranger that all 13 of those Senators are from the party that
tried to steal the election in 2000. But like I say, it's OK with me
as long as they uphold the same high standards as Jimmy Peanut in the
recent Chavez election.
Still griping because the Bush coup failed eh ?
Who is that in the White House again?
Hey, is this an admittance of the 2000 election theft ?
Mmmmm, or is it you've not been following Venezuela politics the last
few years ?
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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| User: "Sean C" |
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29 Aug 2004 12:28:42 PM |
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In article <41320523$0$20250$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, Jez
<iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Fred Stone wrote:
Still griping because the Bush coup failed eh ?
Who is that in the White House again?
Hey, is this an admittance of the 2000 election theft ?
Mmmmm, or is it you've not been following Venezuela politics the last
few years ?
It looks like both.
Sean C
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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29 Aug 2004 01:13:51 PM |
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Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:41320523$0$20250$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:4131f641$0$20244$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:4130a6cb$0$20253$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-165236.00134828082004@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns9551549487927fstone69@207.69.154.205>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-C31624.23312725082004 @news.giganews.com:
In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>,
sreeseme@aol.com (SReeseMe) wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Don't worry, it already is. The machines have made up their
minds.
Hey, no problem, we'll just have Jimmy Carter supervise the
elections and certify them like he just did in Venezuela.
So are you saying that if such were the case, Hugo Chavez would
be sworn in as our 43rd president?
So are you saying that Jimmy Carter did a proper job of
supervising the Venezuelan election and honorably certified the
result?
Kinda strange that 13 of your Senators have asked the UN to
supervise the coming US elections.
I wonder why...................
ah...of course the stolen 2000 election !!
Even stranger that all 13 of those Senators are from the party that
tried to steal the election in 2000. But like I say, it's OK with me
as long as they uphold the same high standards as Jimmy Peanut in
the recent Chavez election.
Still griping because the Bush coup failed eh ?
Who is that in the White House again?
Hey, is this an admittance of the 2000 election theft ?
Is that *your* admission that the Democrats tried to steal the 2000
election and failed?
Mmmmm, or is it you've not been following Venezuela politics the last
few years ?
Yep, been following right along. Chavez has been bankrupting his country
with extreme leftist policies and downright corruption and faced a
recall election. His regime was just about as democratic as that of
Nicaragua under the Sandinista, but much better at running a fraudulent
election.
The Usual Leftist Media have been steadfastly denying that any evidence
of fraud could be found, in spite of reports to the contrary from
opposition groups.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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29 Aug 2004 02:16:08 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:41320523$0$20250$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:4131f641$0$20244$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:4130a6cb$0$20253$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-165236.00134828082004@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns9551549487927fstone69@207.69.154.205>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-C31624.23312725082004 @news.giganews.com:
In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>,
sreeseme@aol.com (SReeseMe) wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Don't worry, it already is. The machines have made up their
minds.
Hey, no problem, we'll just have Jimmy Carter supervise the
elections and certify them like he just did in Venezuela.
So are you saying that if such were the case, Hugo Chavez would
be sworn in as our 43rd president?
So are you saying that Jimmy Carter did a proper job of
supervising the Venezuelan election and honorably certified the
result?
Kinda strange that 13 of your Senators have asked the UN to
supervise the coming US elections.
I wonder why...................
ah...of course the stolen 2000 election !!
Even stranger that all 13 of those Senators are from the party that
tried to steal the election in 2000. But like I say, it's OK with me
as long as they uphold the same high standards as Jimmy Peanut in
the recent Chavez election.
Still griping because the Bush coup failed eh ?
Who is that in the White House again?
Hey, is this an admittance of the 2000 election theft ?
Is that *your* admission that the Democrats tried to steal the 2000
election and failed?
Mmmm what a twist.
Mmmmm, or is it you've not been following Venezuela politics the last
few years ?
Yep, been following right along. Chavez has been bankrupting his country
with extreme leftist policies and downright corruption and faced a
recall election. His regime was just about as democratic as that of
Nicaragua under the Sandinista, but much better at running a fraudulent
election.
Your so full of ***** Fred !
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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29 Aug 2004 02:48:53 PM |
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Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:41322ba0$0$20253$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:41320523$0$20250$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:4131f641$0$20244$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:4130a6cb$0$20253$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-165236.00134828082004@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns9551549487927fstone69@207.69.154.205>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-C31624.23312725082004 @news.giganews.com:
In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>,
sreeseme@aol.com (SReeseMe) wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
Don't worry, it already is. The machines have made up their
minds.
Hey, no problem, we'll just have Jimmy Carter supervise the
elections and certify them like he just did in Venezuela.
So are you saying that if such were the case, Hugo Chavez would
be sworn in as our 43rd president?
So are you saying that Jimmy Carter did a proper job of
supervising the Venezuelan election and honorably certified the
result?
Kinda strange that 13 of your Senators have asked the UN to
supervise the coming US elections.
I wonder why...................
ah...of course the stolen 2000 election !!
Even stranger that all 13 of those Senators are from the party
that tried to steal the election in 2000. But like I say, it's OK
with me as long as they uphold the same high standards as Jimmy
Peanut in the recent Chavez election.
Still griping because the Bush coup failed eh ?
Who is that in the White House again?
Hey, is this an admittance of the 2000 election theft ?
Is that *your* admission that the Democrats tried to steal the 2000
election and failed?
Mmmm what a twist.
Mmmmm, or is it you've not been following Venezuela politics the last
few years ?
Yep, been following right along. Chavez has been bankrupting his
country with extreme leftist policies and downright corruption and
faced a recall election. His regime was just about as democratic as
that of Nicaragua under the Sandinista, but much better at running a
fraudulent election.
Your so full of ***** Fred !
Oooh, nice coherent answer there, Jez. Are you beginning to see through
the lefty press about the story? They hardly even mention the dirty
election tricks that the Chavez administration used. Whatever they *do*
mention is blamed on "opposition groups".
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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29 Aug 2004 03:42:49 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
.......Snippage......
Yep, been following right along. Chavez has been bankrupting his
country with extreme leftist policies and downright corruption and
faced a recall election. His regime was just about as democratic as
that of Nicaragua under the Sandinista, but much better at running a
fraudulent election.
Your so full of ***** Fred !
Oooh, nice coherent answer there, Jez. Are you beginning to see through
the lefty press about the story? They hardly even mention the dirty
election tricks that the Chavez administration used. Whatever they *do*
mention is blamed on "opposition groups".
It's pointless. You seem to believe politicians are honest people.
I never have and never will.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Speaking Personally |
29 Aug 2004 06:00:47 PM |
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Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:41323ff1$0$20252$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
......Snippage......
Yep, been following right along. Chavez has been bankrupting his
country with extreme leftist policies and downright corruption and
faced a recall election. His regime was just about as democratic as
that of Nicaragua under the Sandinista, but much better at running a
fraudulent election.
Your so full of ***** Fred !
Oooh, nice coherent answer there, Jez. Are you beginning to see
through the lefty press about the story? They hardly even mention the
dirty election tricks that the Chavez administration used. Whatever
they *do* mention is blamed on "opposition groups".
It's pointless. You seem to believe politicians are honest people.
I never have and never will.
There's honest and there's dishonest politicians. One of these days I'll
write an essay about how to tell the difference. Until then, this essay
by Lincoln isn't entirely off the track:
http://www.stcl.edu/faculty_pages/faculty_folders/steiner/alh2004/Lincol
n.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q37916A29
....There is a vague popular belief that lawyers are necessarily
dishonest. I say vague, because when we consider to what extent
confidence and honors are reposed in and conferred upon lawyers by the
people, it appears improbable that their impression of dishonesty is
very distinct and vivid. Yet the impression is common, almost universal.
Let no young man choosing the law for a calling for a moment yield to
the popular belief -- resolve to be honest at all events; and if in your
own judgment you cannot be an honest lawyer, resolve to be honest
without being a lawyer. Choose some other occupation rather than one in
the choosing of which you do, in advance, consent to be a knave.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Jez" |
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29 Aug 2004 06:44:21 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:41323ff1$0$20252$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
......Snippage......
Yep, been following right along. Chavez has been bankrupting his
country with extreme leftist policies and downright corruption and
faced a recall election. His regime was just about as democratic as
that of Nicaragua under the Sandinista, but much better at running a
fraudulent election.
Your so full of ***** Fred !
Oooh, nice coherent answer there, Jez. Are you beginning to see
through the lefty press about the story? They hardly even mention the
dirty election tricks that the Chavez administration used. Whatever
they *do* mention is blamed on "opposition groups".
It's pointless. You seem to believe politicians are honest people.
I never have and never will.
There's honest and there's dishonest politicians. One of these days I'll
write an essay about how to tell the difference.
There isn't a difference, there are no honest politicians.
Until then, this essay
by Lincoln isn't entirely off the track:
http://www.stcl.edu/faculty_pages/faculty_folders/steiner/alh2004/Lincol
n.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q37916A29
...There is a vague popular belief that lawyers are necessarily
dishonest.
WTF have lawyers got to do with it ?
Ah, of course, the proven liar Blair is a lawyer.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Speaking Personally |
29 Aug 2004 07:39:51 PM |
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Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:41326a7e$0$20250$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:41323ff1$0$20252$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
......Snippage......
Yep, been following right along. Chavez has been bankrupting his
country with extreme leftist policies and downright corruption and
faced a recall election. His regime was just about as democratic
as that of Nicaragua under the Sandinista, but much better at
running a fraudulent election.
Your so full of ***** Fred !
Oooh, nice coherent answer there, Jez. Are you beginning to see
through the lefty press about the story? They hardly even mention
the dirty election tricks that the Chavez administration used.
Whatever they *do* mention is blamed on "opposition groups".
It's pointless. You seem to believe politicians are honest people.
I never have and never will.
There's honest and there's dishonest politicians. One of these days
I'll write an essay about how to tell the difference.
There isn't a difference, there are no honest politicians.
Until then, this essay
by Lincoln isn't entirely off the track:
http://www.stcl.edu/faculty_pages/faculty_folders/steiner/alh2004/Linc
ol n.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q37916A29
...There is a vague popular belief that lawyers are necessarily
dishonest.
WTF have lawyers got to do with it ?
Ah, of course, the proven liar Blair is a lawyer.
Oh damn you Jez, can't you at least *try*?
I tried to post something a little less partisan and what do I get for
it? Damn you twice.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Jez" |
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31 Aug 2004 07:39:52 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:41326a7e$0$20250$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:41323ff1$0$20252$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
......Snippage......
Yep, been following right along. Chavez has been bankrupting his
country with extreme leftist policies and downright corruption and
faced a recall election. His regime was just about as democratic
as that of Nicaragua under the Sandinista, but much better at
running a fraudulent election.
Your so full of ***** Fred !
Oooh, nice coherent answer there, Jez. Are you beginning to see
through the lefty press about the story? They hardly even mention
the dirty election tricks that the Chavez administration used.
Whatever they *do* mention is blamed on "opposition groups".
It's pointless. You seem to believe politicians are honest people.
I never have and never will.
There's honest and there's dishonest politicians. One of these days
I'll write an essay about how to tell the difference.
There isn't a difference, there are no honest politicians.
Until then, this essay
by Lincoln isn't entirely off the track:
http://www.stcl.edu/faculty_pages/faculty_folders/steiner/alh2004/Linc
ol n.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q37916A29
...There is a vague popular belief that lawyers are necessarily
dishonest.
WTF have lawyers got to do with it ?
Ah, of course, the proven liar Blair is a lawyer.
Oh damn you Jez, can't you at least *try*?
I tried to post something a little less partisan and what do I get for
it? Damn you twice.
LOL !!
Okay okay....I took a read of your Lincon article...
' Never stir up litigation. A worse man can scarcely be found than one
who does this. Who
can be more nearly a fiend than he who habitually overhauls the register
of deeds in search of defects in titles, whereon to stir up strife, and
put money in his pocket? A moral tone ought to be infused into the
profession which should drive such men out of it.'
' The matter of fees is important, far beyond the mere question of
bread and butter involved. Properly attended to, fuller justice is done
to both lawyer and client. An exorbitant fee should never be claimed.'
If only it they thought like that today eh ?
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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31 Aug 2004 08:25:29 AM |
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Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:413471c1$0$20251$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:41326a7e$0$20250$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:41323ff1$0$20252$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
......Snippage......
Yep, been following right along. Chavez has been bankrupting his
country with extreme leftist policies and downright corruption
and faced a recall election. His regime was just about as
democratic as that of Nicaragua under the Sandinista, but much
better at running a fraudulent election.
Your so full of ***** Fred !
Oooh, nice coherent answer there, Jez. Are you beginning to see
through the lefty press about the story? They hardly even mention
the dirty election tricks that the Chavez administration used.
Whatever they *do* mention is blamed on "opposition groups".
It's pointless. You seem to believe politicians are honest people.
I never have and never will.
There's honest and there's dishonest politicians. One of these days
I'll write an essay about how to tell the difference.
There isn't a difference, there are no honest politicians.
Until then, this essay
by Lincoln isn't entirely off the track:
http://www.stcl.edu/faculty_pages/faculty_folders/steiner/alh2004/Linc
ol n.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q37916A29
...There is a vague popular belief that lawyers are necessarily
dishonest.
WTF have lawyers got to do with it ?
Ah, of course, the proven liar Blair is a lawyer.
Oh damn you Jez, can't you at least *try*?
I tried to post something a little less partisan and what do I get
for it? Damn you twice.
LOL !!
Okay okay....I took a read of your Lincon article...
' Never stir up litigation. A worse man can scarcely be found than
one who does this. Who
can be more nearly a fiend than he who habitually overhauls the
register of deeds in search of defects in titles, whereon to stir up
strife, and put money in his pocket? A moral tone ought to be infused
into the profession which should drive such men out of it.'
' The matter of fees is important, far beyond the mere question of
bread and butter involved. Properly attended to, fuller justice is
done to both lawyer and client. An exorbitant fee should never be
claimed.'
If only it they thought like that today eh ?
Indeed. John Grisham is making a lot of money writing potboilers about
unethical lawyers like the above.
As to exorbitant fees, there's a current parody of justice going on in
the US wherein the lawyers take their % fee *before* taxes and then the
tax man takes *his* % from the *total* because the fees aren't
deductible, leaving the client in debt for big $$ after "winning" his
lawsuit.
But of course the part about honesty and public perception was what I
was originally referring to. We like to call all politicians liars and
theives but there must be some honest ones or there wouldn't be so many
getting honors for public service.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
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27 Aug 2004 09:40:06 PM |
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In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>, SReeseMe
<sreeseme@aol.com> wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
This is an election? This is more like walking into McDonalds, and
getting to choose between a Big Mac or a Big Mac with fries and a soda.
Not much of a choice.
Sean C
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27 Aug 2004 10:38:08 PM |
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:40:06 -0400, Sean C <redhawk@burnspammersalive.hvc.rr.com> wrote:
In article <20040825164028.22500.00001857@mb-m11.aol.com>, SReeseMe
<sreeseme@aol.com> wrote:
I can't wait until this fucking election is over!!!
This is an election? This is more like walking into McDonalds, and
getting to choose between a Big Mac or a Big Mac with fries and a soda.
Not much of a choice.
Sean C
You guys worry me.
Can you not tell the difference between a party that is, usually, a lackluster
servant of ordinary people's interests (as opposed to corporate interests)
and one that is its implacable enemy?
And as for the party, so for the candidate.
Is there no difference (giving you the point arguendo, 'though I'd disagree)
between a business-as-usual Middleparty don't-change-too-much guy,
and a Crusading gawd-speaks-to-me-so-get-out-of-my-way-or-you're-fucked
fanatic, with little attention for policy, happy to beard his cabal of saboteurs
while they carry on a thinly-masked war against everything most of us have always
viewed as essentially "American", in the realm of political life?
It is a national *emergency* that the chimp-in-chief has to be shown the door *out*.
The War On Terror *will* become a war on you, sooner or later, one way or another.
There may not be enough left of the country we've all thought we lived in, after
another term (possibly extended into the indefinite future,) to worry about repairing
the damage later.
Chief Justice Thomas, symbol of expanded opportunity for the traditionally excluded:
the untalented and unqualified.
Have you heard enough?
--
/Apostate
atheist #1931 I've found it!
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Supernumerary Deputy Director, Department of Redundancy Department
plonked by Lani_girl, first post; Billions Served!
I doubt, therefore I might be.
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