Religions > Atheism > Specific steps in the most commonly used partial-birth abortion procedure
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13 Apr 2006 12:06:14 AM |
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Specific steps in the most commonly used partial-birth abortion procedure |
Dilation and Extraction, are:
1. A medical professional induces a breech (feet first) delivery with
forceps.
2. Legs, arms and torso of the fetus are delivered (i.e. expelled from the
mother).
3. The back of the fetus' skull is punctured with a scissors-like
instrument.
4. A suction device is inserted into the skull.
5. The device sunctions out the contents of the fetus' skull, causing the
skull to collapse.
6. The lifeless fetus is delivered.
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youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Specific steps in the most commonly demonized pro-liar abortion procedure |
13 Apr 2006 11:25:10 AM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Dilation and Extraction, are:
1. A medical professional induces a breech (feet first) delivery with
forceps.
That's falsehood #1: There is no induced delivery.
2. Legs, arms and torso of the fetus are delivered (i.e. expelled from the
mother).
No "expelled". Extracted.
3. The back of the fetus' skull is punctured with a scissors-like
instrument.
Why? Because the head is too large to fit past the cervix.
But you pro-liars prefer to spread propaganda and disinformation
in order to promote hate.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Specific steps in the most commonly demonized pro-liar abortion procedure |
13 Apr 2006 11:30:44 AM |
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On 13 Apr 2006 16:25:10 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Dilation and Extraction, are:
1. A medical professional induces a breech (feet first) delivery with
forceps.
That's falsehood #1: There is no induced delivery.
2. Legs, arms and torso of the fetus are delivered (i.e. expelled from the
mother).
No "expelled". Extracted.
3. The back of the fetus' skull is punctured with a scissors-like
instrument.
Why? Because the head is too large to fit past the cervix.
But you pro-liars prefer to spread propaganda and disinformation
in order to promote hate.
This technique is performed for emergency medical reasons, not
electively. If they were going to have an elective abortion they would
have done it much earlier. Do these loonies seriously imagine she is
going to wait that long for one?
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| User: "Alberich" |
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| Title: Re: Specific steps in the most commonly demonized pro-liar abortion procedure |
13 Apr 2006 11:36:14 AM |
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On 13 Apr 2006 16:25:10 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Dilation and Extraction, are:
<snip>
3. The back of the fetus' skull is punctured with a scissors-like
instrument.
Why? Because the head is too large to fit past the cervix.
Why would the head be too large to fit past the cervix in this
procedure, but not in natural childbirth?
Alberich
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Specific steps in the most commonly demonized pro-liar abortion procedure |
13 Apr 2006 11:48:45 AM |
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Alberich wrote:
On 13 Apr 2006 16:25:10 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Dilation and Extraction, are:
<snip>
3. The back of the fetus' skull is punctured with a scissors-like
instrument.
Why? Because the head is too large to fit past the cervix.
Why would the head be too large to fit past the cervix in this
procedure, but not in natural childbirth?
Alberich
Because the skull has enlarged with fluid and celluar debris so that it
is now a couple times its normal size and increasing in size. Because
the hormones which "soften" and relax the cervix over a period of a
couple weeks before birth are not present. Because the cervix is being
dialated via mechanical means rather than by biological/hormonal means.
There are any number of reasons.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Alberich" |
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| Title: Re: Specific steps in the most commonly demonized pro-liar abortion procedure |
13 Apr 2006 12:04:53 PM |
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On 13 Apr 2006 09:48:45 -0700, "Mark Sebree" <sebree@infionline.net>
wrote:
Alberich wrote:
On 13 Apr 2006 16:25:10 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Dilation and Extraction, are:
<snip>
3. The back of the fetus' skull is punctured with a scissors-like
instrument.
Why? Because the head is too large to fit past the cervix.
Why would the head be too large to fit past the cervix in this
procedure, but not in natural childbirth?
Alberich
Because the skull has enlarged with fluid and celluar debris so that it
is now a couple times its normal size and increasing in size. Because
the hormones which "soften" and relax the cervix over a period of a
couple weeks before birth are not present. Because the cervix is being
dialated via mechanical means rather than by biological/hormonal means.
There are any number of reasons.
Thanks. Sometimes I wish I had gone to med school... =)
Alberich
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Specific steps in the most commonly demonized pro-liar abortion procedure |
13 Apr 2006 12:35:37 PM |
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Alberich wrote:
On 13 Apr 2006 16:25:10 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Dilation and Extraction, are:
<snip>
3. The back of the fetus' skull is punctured with a scissors-like
instrument.
Why? Because the head is too large to fit past the cervix.
Why would the head be too large to fit past the cervix in this
procedure, but not in natural childbirth?
Alberich
Because the skull has enlarged with fluid and celluar debris so that it
is now a couple times its normal size and increasing in size. Because
the hormones which "soften" and relax the cervix over a period of a
couple weeks before birth are not present. Because the cervix is being
dialated via mechanical means rather than by biological/hormonal means.
There are any number of reasons.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Specific steps in the most commonly demonized pro-liar abortion procedure |
13 Apr 2006 12:19:40 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:36:14 GMT, Alberich <Alberich@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
On 13 Apr 2006 16:25:10 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Dilation and Extraction, are:
<snip>
3. The back of the fetus' skull is punctured with a scissors-like
instrument.
Why? Because the head is too large to fit past the cervix.
Why would the head be too large to fit past the cervix in this
procedure, but not in natural childbirth?
Because the hormones to make it dilate aren't there yet.
Alberich
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Specific steps in the most commonly used pro-liar propaganda |
13 Apr 2006 12:52:46 AM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Dilation and Extraction, are:
What happened to your brain.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: Specific steps in the most commonly used partial-birth abortionprocedure |
13 Apr 2006 12:39:28 AM |
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wrote:
Dilation and Extraction, are:
1. A medical professional induces a breech (feet first) delivery with
forceps.
2. Legs, arms and torso of the
(dead or dying)
fetus are delivered (i.e. expelled from the
mother).
3. The back of the
(dead or dying)
fetus' skull is punctured with a scissors-like
instrument.
4. A suction device is inserted into the skull.
of the dead or dying fetus
5. The device sunctions out the contents of the
(dead or dying)
fetus' skull, causing the
skull to collapse.
6. The
already
lifeless fetus is delivered.
You forgot:
7. The woman lives, undamaged and able to have more children.
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--sexkitten--
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
Epicurus
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Specific steps in the most commonly used partial-birth abortion procedure |
13 Apr 2006 09:26:19 AM |
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wrote:
Dilation and Extraction, are:
1. A medical professional induces a breech (feet first) delivery with
forceps.
2. Legs, arms and torso of the fetus are delivered (i.e. expelled from the
mother).
3. The back of the fetus' skull is punctured with a scissors-like
instrument.
4. A suction device is inserted into the skull.
5. The device sunctions out the contents of the fetus' skull, causing the
skull to collapse.
6. The lifeless fetus is delivered.
Now that you have given a short, somewhat biased description of this
procedure, how about now telling us when it is usually done in the
pregnancy and why. Those are more important questions than how it is
done.
I will give you a hint. It is done because it must be done. If the
women had their way, it would not have been needed in the first place.
It this procedure which induces relatively little physical trauma on
the woman was not use, another more dangerous procedure would have to
be used.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Specific steps in the most commonly used partial-birth abortion procedure |
13 Apr 2006 12:45:01 AM |
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No one pretends that abortion is a cute operation. No one even pretends
to be "in favor" of abortion. But it exists and no one has the right to
impose his/her views on someone regarding PRIVATE matters...
I guess that's what makes it so difficult for women-hater (among
others) like J fucking Young...
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Specific steps in the most commonly used partial-birth abortion procedure |
13 Apr 2006 07:36:45 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and <youngopinions@aol.com> posting
the following on Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:06:14 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
Dilation and Extraction, are:
Would you like a blow-by-blow description of how my spleen was
removed? Or the effects of a M-16A1 anti-personnel mine on a human
body?
Many things in this life are disturbing, if not downright gross.
Doesn't make them wrong.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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