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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Sphere"
Date: 30 Sep 2006 09:31:28 PM
Object: States of Affairs.
Some people hold that there are states of affairs.
I hold with Heraclitus and Buddha that there is
only a flux of action, and no fixed states. Heraclitus
held that everything was fire. Buddha's formulation
of this was a bit longer:
"All which is held that arises is impermanent.
All which is held that arises is stressed.
All which is held is without self."
This is my system of belief, and I am proud
to call it a belief rather than attempting to
claim I am not believing something.
This system of belief has a couple of points
in its favor:
1) It is falsifiable. All you have to do is present
one of those perfect little unchanging billiard
balls. (A philosophical atom, rather than one
of those misnamed physical thingies.)
2) The belief is well supported by the available
evidence. Science has found nothing which
tends to deny this belief and much which tends
to confirm it -- and this is not without trying.
Physics has of late largely giving up the search
for some sort of atom, but only after over 300
years of fruitless search.
Can those who hold that there are states of
affiars do as well? Can you offer up a
formalism of your system of belief which is
falisifiable and well supported?
---
No essence. No permanence. No perfection.
.

User: "Sir Frederick"

Title: Re: States of Affairs. 01 Oct 2006 08:37:27 AM
On 30 Sep 2006 19:31:28 -0700, "Sphere" <sphere1952@gmail.com> wrote:

Some people hold that there are states of affairs.
I hold with Heraclitus and Buddha that there is
only a flux of action, and no fixed states. Heraclitus
held that everything was fire. Buddha's formulation
of this was a bit longer:

"All which is held that arises is impermanent.
All which is held that arises is stressed.
All which is held is without self."

This is my system of belief, and I am proud
to call it a belief rather than attempting to
claim I am not believing something.

This system of belief has a couple of points
in its favor:

1) It is falsifiable. All you have to do is present
one of those perfect little unchanging billiard
balls. (A philosophical atom, rather than one
of those misnamed physical thingies.)

2) The belief is well supported by the available
evidence. Science has found nothing which
tends to deny this belief and much which tends
to confirm it -- and this is not without trying.
Physics has of late largely giving up the search
for some sort of atom, but only after over 300
years of fruitless search.

Can those who hold that there are states of
affiars do as well? Can you offer up a
formalism of your system of belief which is
falisifiable and well supported?
---
No essence. No permanence. No perfection.

Different stories for different people.
The situation is so far beyond our human ken that
stories are like the clothes we wear : functional
and fit. That is enough. Including your stories.
.


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