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"loose cannon" |
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20 Jun 2005 01:31:58 AM |
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Stem cell 'building blocks' hold baby hopes for gays |
This is some really sick crap. Is it any wonder that intelligent people
everywhere oppose experiments using embryonic stem cells?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/06/20/nstem20.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/06/20/ixhome.html
Stem cell 'building blocks' hold baby hopes for gays
Scientists have created the precursors of human sperm and eggs from
"building block" stem cells, raising the prospect that infertile and
homosexual couples could have babies that are genetically their own.
A British team has, for the first time, used embryonic stem cells to
grow primordial germ cells (PGC) which later develop into either sperm
or eggs. In addition to being potentially of use in assisted
reproduction such as IVF, synthetic sex cells could be used in
therapeutic cloning and medical research.
Some researchers believe that the breakthrough means an egg could, in
theory, be generated from a man's own stem cells and even that a child
could be created from sperm and an engineered egg from the same man.
Anna Smajdor, researcher in medical ethics at Imperial College London,
said: "Because the technique can be used to generate eggs from a man's
somatic cells, gay couples could have children genetically related to
both. Single men could even produce a child using their own sperm and
an engineered egg.
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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20 Jun 2005 02:58:17 AM |
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in
news:1119231118.948599.54310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
This is some really sick crap. Is it any wonder that intelligent
people everywhere oppose experiments using embryonic stem cells?
"People everywhere"? Are you sure you don't me "A minority of the people
in the United States"?
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EAC Chaplin and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
Doing my part to ***** off the religious right.
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20 Jun 2005 02:47:15 AM |
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
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This is some really sick crap. Is it any wonder that intelligent people
everywhere oppose experiments using embryonic stem cells?
Most intelligent people aren't ignorant bigots like you.
Aside from which, stem cell research is basically for
curing diseases, not cloning babies.
Also, consider yourself plonked.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/06/20/nstem20.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/06/20/ixhome.html
Stem cell 'building blocks' hold baby hopes for gays
Scientists have created the precursors of human sperm and eggs from
"building block" stem cells, raising the prospect that infertile and
homosexual couples could have babies that are genetically their own.
A British team has, for the first time, used embryonic stem cells to
grow primordial germ cells (PGC) which later develop into either sperm
or eggs. In addition to being potentially of use in assisted
reproduction such as IVF, synthetic sex cells could be used in
therapeutic cloning and medical research.
Some researchers believe that the breakthrough means an egg could, in
theory, be generated from a man's own stem cells and even that a child
could be created from sperm and an engineered egg from the same man.
Anna Smajdor, researcher in medical ethics at Imperial College London,
said: "Because the technique can be used to generate eggs from a man's
somatic cells, gay couples could have children genetically related to
both. Single men could even produce a child using their own sperm and
an engineered egg.
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| User: "In The World Before Clayton, Primal Chaos Reigned!" |
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20 Jun 2005 06:26:59 AM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
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This is some really sick crap. Is it any wonder that intelligent people
everywhere oppose experiments using embryonic stem cells?
Most intelligent people aren't ignorant bigots like you.
Aside from which, stem cell research is basically for
curing diseases, not cloning babies.
Also, consider yourself plonked.
I don't know why everyone didn't plonk him after his first post like I
did...he's the most obvious troll since...well...any of his dozens of other
socks!!!!
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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20 Jun 2005 06:41:02 AM |
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"In The World Before Clayton, Primal Chaos Reigned!"
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1119231118.948599.54310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
This is some really sick crap. Is it any wonder that intelligent
people
everywhere oppose experiments using embryonic stem cells?
Most intelligent people aren't ignorant bigots like you.
Aside from which, stem cell research is basically for
curing diseases, not cloning babies.
Also, consider yourself plonked.
I don't know why everyone didn't plonk him after his first post like I
did...he's the most obvious troll since...well...any of his dozens of
other
socks!!!!
He's one of the bunch that came in with the Mattingly troll.
They announced that they were going to invade alt.atheism
out of existence. They've failed, as have so many others
who tried the same thing. I wonder how many of them are
the same person. Whenever one of them comes back, I just
replonk them. Most of the time, I don't bother telling them.
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| User: "Jeff Welch" |
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20 Jun 2005 03:05:08 PM |
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
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This is some really sick crap.
Why?
What's sick about it?
-Jeff
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| User: "johac" |
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22 Jun 2005 05:57:26 AM |
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In article <1119231118.948599.54310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote:
This is some really sick crap. Is it any wonder that intelligent people
everywhere oppose experiments using embryonic stem cells?
Most intelligent people support stem cell research for therapeutic
purposes. There is still some concern about reproductive cloning due to
safety issues. To have a technique that could potentially save many live
and not to use it would be 'really sick crap'.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/06/20/nstem20.xml&sS
heet=/news/2005/06/20/ixhome.html
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "quibbler" |
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20 Jun 2005 03:27:05 AM |
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In article <1119231118.948599.54310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
looseaint@aol.com says...
Is it any wonder that intelligent people
everywhere oppose experiments using embryonic stem cells?
The scientists doing the research are clearly far more intelligent than
you could ever be and support embryonic stem cell research. You simply
can't handle reality and vainly wish to turn the clock back. But you
won't prevent the inevitable development of embryonic stem cell
medicine, despite your idiotic and quixotic efforts.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Razor 616" |
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20 Jun 2005 07:38:09 AM |
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On 19 Jun 2005 18:31:58 -0700, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
wrote:
This is some really sick crap. Is it any wonder that intelligent people
everywhere oppose experiments using embryonic stem cells?
You mean, backwater, hick, religious and superstitious freakoids who
have no idea what the science means?
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| User: "Matty" |
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20 Jun 2005 04:51:53 AM |
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On 2005-06-20 13:31:58 +1200, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> said:
This is some really sick crap. Is it any wonder that intelligent people
everywhere oppose experiments using embryonic stem cells?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/06/20/nstem20.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/06/20/ixhome.html
Stem
cell 'building blocks' hold baby hopes for gays
Scientists have created the precursors of human sperm and eggs from
"building block" stem cells, raising the prospect that infertile and
homosexual couples could have babies that are genetically their own.
A British team has, for the first time, used embryonic stem cells to
grow primordial germ cells (PGC) which later develop into either sperm
or eggs. In addition to being potentially of use in assisted
reproduction such as IVF, synthetic sex cells could be used in
therapeutic cloning and medical research.
Some researchers believe that the breakthrough means an egg could, in
theory, be generated from a man's own stem cells and even that a child
could be created from sperm and an engineered egg from the same man.
Anna Smajdor, researcher in medical ethics at Imperial College London,
said: "Because the technique can be used to generate eggs from a man's
somatic cells, gay couples could have children genetically related to
both. Single men could even produce a child using their own sperm and
an engineered egg.
What is particular sick about it? the fact that we'll show you breeders
up in regards to us being good parents?
Matty
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http://geocities.com/thegaykiwi
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| User: "Bill Bonde by a commodius vicus of" |
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20 Jun 2005 04:58:49 AM |
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Matty wrote:
On 2005-06-20 13:31:58 +1200, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> said:
This is some really sick crap. Is it any wonder that intelligent people
everywhere oppose experiments using embryonic stem cells?
What is particular sick about it? the fact that we'll show you breeders
up in regards to us being good parents?
Wouldn't this mean that homosexuals would be breeders too?
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"What do you value in your bulldogs? Gripping, is it not? It's their
nature? It's why you breed them? It's so with men. I will not give in
because I oppose it. Not my pride, not my spleen, nor any other of my
appetites, but *I* do. Is there in the midst of all this muscle no
single sinew that serves no appetite of Norfolk's but is just Norfolk?
Give that some exercise. Because, as you stand, you'll go before your
Maker ill-conditioned. He'll think that somewhere along your pedigree, a
***** got over the wall."
-+Paul Scofield, "A Man For All Seasons"
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| User: "Matty" |
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20 Jun 2005 06:24:27 AM |
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On 2005-06-20 16:58:49 +1200, "Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of
recirculation')" <antonchekhov@unclevanya.com.ru> said:
Matty wrote:
On 2005-06-20 13:31:58 +1200, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> said:
This is some really sick crap. Is it any wonder that intelligent people
everywhere oppose experiments using embryonic stem cells?
What is particular sick about it? the fact that we'll show you breeders
up in regards to us being good parents?
Wouldn't this mean that homosexuals would be breeders too?
Ah, touché, but since we'd have to jump through 3,000 flaming hoops to
get that special thing, the likelihood of unwanted pregnanies? zero.
Matty
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| User: "Bill Bonde by a commodius vicus of" |
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20 Jun 2005 11:58:39 PM |
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Matty wrote:
On 2005-06-20 16:58:49 +1200, "Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of
recirculation')" <antonchekhov@unclevanya.com.ru> said:
Matty wrote:
On 2005-06-20 13:31:58 +1200, "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> said:
This is some really sick crap. Is it any wonder that intelligent people
everywhere oppose experiments using embryonic stem cells?
What is particular sick about it? the fact that we'll show you breeders
up in regards to us being good parents?
Wouldn't this mean that homosexuals would be breeders too?
Ah, touché, but since we'd have to jump through 3,000 flaming hoops to
get that special thing, the likelihood of unwanted pregnanies? zero.
Is that really the complaint that homosexuals have about 'breeders'? If
breeders use birth control, they are fine?
--
"What do you value in your bulldogs? Gripping, is it not? It's their
nature? It's why you breed them? It's so with men. I will not give in
because I oppose it. Not my pride, not my spleen, nor any other of my
appetites, but *I* do. Is there in the midst of all this muscle no
single sinew that serves no appetite of Norfolk's but is just Norfolk?
Give that some exercise. Because, as you stand, you'll go before your
Maker ill-conditioned. He'll think that somewhere along your pedigree, a
***** got over the wall."
-+Paul Scofield, "A Man For All Seasons"
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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21 Jun 2005 02:30:28 AM |
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
Is that really the complaint that homosexuals have about 'breeders'? If
breeders use birth control, they are fine?
Nah, the real problem is the lack of quality, um, "output." Sure they
make an Einstein, or Beethoven, or Buddha every few thousand million
tries or so. It's not worth the percent of the Gross National Product
that goes towards housing their "oopsies" in nice drab concrete
accommodations though.
--
Little Things They Forget to Mention...
Item #2: When playing strip poker, it can be difficult to tell if comments from the peanut gallery about an opponent's "good hand" are in reference to the cards.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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21 Jun 2005 07:25:22 AM |
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"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote in message
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
Is that really the complaint that homosexuals have about 'breeders'? If
breeders use birth control, they are fine?
Nah, the real problem is the lack of quality, um, "output." Sure they make
an Einstein, or Beethoven, or Buddha every few thousand million tries or
so. It's not worth the percent of the Gross National Product that goes
towards housing their "oopsies" in nice drab concrete accommodations
though.
Uh, you're not seriously retending that any child less brilliant than the
ones you mentioned is therefore worthless....??
Susan
--
Little Things They Forget to Mention...
Item #2: When playing strip poker, it can be difficult to tell if comments
from the peanut gallery about an opponent's "good hand" are in reference
to the cards.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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21 Jun 2005 10:24:28 AM |
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Susan Cohen wrote:
Uh, you're not seriously retending that any child less brilliant than the
ones you mentioned is therefore worthless....??
Of course not. Heck, if one gets right down to it, even the incarcerated
offspring aren't worthless; One can find out precisely how much their
accommodations are worth to society by placing a call to the warden.
--
Little Things They Forget to Mention...
Item #2: When playing strip poker, it can be difficult to tell if comments from the peanut gallery about an opponent's "good hand" are in reference to the cards.
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| User: "Bill Bonde by a commodius vicus of" |
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21 Jun 2005 03:40:08 AM |
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Dionisio wrote:
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
Is that really the complaint that homosexuals have about 'breeders'? If
breeders use birth control, they are fine?
Nah, the real problem is the lack of quality, um, "output." Sure they
make an Einstein, or Beethoven, or Buddha every few thousand million
tries or so. It's not worth the percent of the Gross National Product
that goes towards housing their "oopsies" in nice drab concrete
accommodations though.
So people who complain about 'breeders' are really hypernihilists,
wishing for an end to the human race? I didn't realize that. Or don't
those complaining realize that those breeders made them?
--
"What do you value in your bulldogs? Gripping, is it not? It's their
nature? It's why you breed them? It's so with men. I will not give in
because I oppose it. Not my pride, not my spleen, nor any other of my
appetites, but *I* do. Is there in the midst of all this muscle no
single sinew that serves no appetite of Norfolk's but is just Norfolk?
Give that some exercise. Because, as you stand, you'll go before your
Maker ill-conditioned. He'll think that somewhere along your pedigree, a
***** got over the wall."
-+Paul Scofield, "A Man For All Seasons"
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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21 Jun 2005 10:14:15 AM |
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
So people who complain about 'breeders' are really hypernihilists,
wishing for an end to the human race?
Nah, just a little quality control. Is that really so much to ask? Super
Nanny's a start, but she's a bit late to the scene. (And we need about
500,000 more just here in the US alone.)
--
Little Things They Forget to Mention...
Item #2: When playing strip poker, it can be difficult to tell if comments from the peanut gallery about an opponent's "good hand" are in reference to the cards.
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| User: "Matty" |
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22 Jun 2005 06:28:12 AM |
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On 2005-06-21 22:14:15 +1200, Dionisio <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> said:
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
So people who complain about 'breeders' are really hypernihilists,
wishing for an end to the human race?
Nah, just a little quality control. Is that really so much to ask?
Super Nanny's a start, but she's a bit late to the scene. (And we need
about 500,000 more just here in the US alone.)
Na, fix em when they're young; we do it to dogs and cats so that they
don't run around the neighbourhood bonking themselves silly; why not
for humans?
Matty
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| User: "Bill Bonde by a commodius vicus of" |
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22 Jun 2005 06:46:34 AM |
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Matty wrote:
On 2005-06-21 22:14:15 +1200, Dionisio <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> said:
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
So people who complain about 'breeders' are really hypernihilists,
wishing for an end to the human race?
Nah, just a little quality control. Is that really so much to ask?
Super Nanny's a start, but she's a bit late to the scene. (And we need
about 500,000 more just here in the US alone.)
Na, fix em when they're young; we do it to dogs and cats so that they
don't run around the neighbourhood bonking themselves silly; why not
for humans?
Is it clear which ones you should fix?
--
"He's asking if you killed Freddie Miles and then killed Dickie
Greenleaf."
"No, I did not kill Freddie Miles and then kill Dickie Greenleaf."
-+Thomas Ripley using Bill Clinton logic, "The Talented Mr Ripley"
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| User: "Matty" |
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22 Jun 2005 06:51:20 AM |
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On 2005-06-22 18:46:34 +1200, "Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of
recirculation')" <prepend@postpend.net.ru> said:
Matty wrote:
On 2005-06-21 22:14:15 +1200, Dionisio <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> said:
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
So people who complain about 'breeders' are really hypernihilists,
wishing for an end to the human race?
Nah, just a little quality control. Is that really so much to ask?
Super Nanny's a start, but she's a bit late to the scene. (And we need
about 500,000 more just here in the US alone.)
Na, fix em when they're young; we do it to dogs and cats so that they
don't run around the neighbourhood bonking themselves silly; why not
for humans?
Is it clear which ones you should fix?
Well, for starters, the next door neighbour; the one living off welfare
with her 8 boyfriends who 'visit' her on regular basis to spend some
'quality time' with their children.
As I've said to people who are anti-homosexual - once you heterosexuals
get your house in order, then you have the right to do a sermon on the
mount.
Matty
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| User: "Misleart Chuff" |
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11 Jul 2005 08:55:22 PM |
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"Matty" <kaiwainz@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:2005062218512077923%kaiwainz@yahoocomau...
: On 2005-06-22 18:46:34 +1200, "Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of
: recirculation')" <prepend@postpend.net.ru> said:
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: > Matty wrote:
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: >> On 2005-06-21 22:14:15 +1200, Dionisio
<moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> said:
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: >>> Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
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: >>>> So people who complain about 'breeders' are really
hypernihilists,
: >>>> wishing for an end to the human race?
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: >>> Nah, just a little quality control. Is that really so much to
ask?
: >>> Super Nanny's a start, but she's a bit late to the scene. (And
we need
: >>> about 500,000 more just here in the US alone.)
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: >> Na, fix em when they're young; we do it to dogs and cats so that
they
: >> don't run around the neighbourhood bonking themselves silly; why
not
: >> for humans?
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: > Is it clear which ones you should fix?
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: Well, for starters, the next door neighbour; the one living off
welfare
: with her 8 boyfriends who 'visit' her on regular basis to spend some
: 'quality time' with their children.
Your point is a bit vague, what have you against multiple partners?
If you're merely against the welfare, why not say so? Eugenics is not
popular, for a number of reasons...but if you don't wish to have your
genes remain in the pool, suits me.
: As I've said to people who are anti-homosexual - once you
heterosexuals
: get your house in order, then you have the right to do a sermon on
the
: mount.
I never gave a sermon there, but I did get quite drunk there...what a
blast. You, on the other hand, haven't shown yourself to have any
particular reason to be on a high horse.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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22 Jun 2005 10:13:42 AM |
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Matty wrote:
Dionisio <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> said:
Nah, just a little quality control. Is that really so much to ask?
Super Nanny's a start, but she's a bit late to the scene. (And we
need about 500,000 more just here in the US alone.)
Na, fix em when they're young; we do it to dogs and cats so that they
don't run around the neighbourhood bonking themselves silly; why not
for humans?
Don't think we need to go *that* far. (Shades of the obsessive little
tyrant with the neatly trimmed mustache and all.)
--
Little Things They Forget to Mention...
Item #2: When playing strip poker, it can be difficult to tell if comments from the peanut gallery about an opponent's "good hand" are in reference to the cards.
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| User: "Matty" |
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22 Jun 2005 10:26:23 AM |
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On 2005-06-22 22:13:42 +1200, Dionisio <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> said:
Matty wrote:
Dionisio <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> said:
Nah, just a little quality control. Is that really so much to ask?
Super Nanny's a start, but she's a bit late to the scene. (And we need
about 500,000 more just here in the US alone.)
Na, fix em when they're young; we do it to dogs and cats so that they
don't run around the neighbourhood bonking themselves silly; why not
for humans?
Don't think we need to go *that* far. (Shades of the obsessive little
tyrant with the neatly trimmed mustache and all.)
Ewww, Mostaches, such a 1970's gay cliché. :P
I was being fictitious about fixing people :P
Its about people making choices, accepting responsibility as an adult,
as part of taking responsibility, it is about paying your own way,
without expecting help from the tax payer.
Matty
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http://geocities.com/thegaykiwi
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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23 Jun 2005 03:52:45 AM |
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Matty wrote:
Ewww, Mostaches, such a 1970's gay cliché. :P
"Ahem," said the mustached and bearded fellow.
:-P
I was being fictitious about fixing people :P
Oh, there are some that would lend themselves quite handily to the "help
the gene pool" list...
Its about people making choices, accepting responsibility as an adult,
as part of taking responsibility, it is about paying your own way,
without expecting help from the tax payer.
<gasp!> Why that's simply un-American! You're supposed to wine and dine
elected officials, not be self-sufficient! (Of course, it also helps if
you don't get caught. "Bye, bye," Governor Taft. Hello Governor Bradley.
(Black, female, and thinks homosexuals are people. Oops!))
--
Little Things They Forget to Mention...
Item #2: When playing strip poker, it can be difficult to tell if comments from the peanut gallery about an opponent's "good hand" are in reference to the cards.
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| User: "Matty" |
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23 Jun 2005 05:25:20 AM |
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On 2005-06-23 15:52:45 +1200, Dionisio <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> said:
Matty wrote:
Ewww, Mostaches, such a 1970's gay cliché. :P
"Ahem," said the mustached and bearded fellow.
:-P
LOL :P
I was being fictitious about fixing people :P
Oh, there are some that would lend themselves quite handily to the
"help the gene pool" list...
LOL :D my next door neigbour is the prime example of the type of people
who should never either have children, or come with in a 100km radius
of a child.
Its about people making choices, accepting responsibility as an adult,
as part of taking responsibility, it is about paying your own way,
without expecting help from the tax payer.
<gasp!> Why that's simply un-American! You're supposed to wine and dine
elected officials, not be self-sufficient! (Of course, it also helps if
you don't get caught. "Bye, bye," Governor Taft. Hello Governor
Bradley. (Black, female, and thinks homosexuals are people. Oops!))
Well, it is funny, when I hear straights here whine about the supposed
cost of AIDS/HIV, and yet, they completely overlook the cost to the
taxpayer for their breed-a-thon - tax rebates, social weflare hand outs
etc. etc.
Matty
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| User: "Matty" |
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21 Jun 2005 06:56:47 AM |
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On 2005-06-21 14:30:28 +1200, Dionisio <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> said:
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
Is that really the complaint that homosexuals have about 'breeders'? If
breeders use birth control, they are fine?
Nah, the real problem is the lack of quality, um, "output." Sure they
make an Einstein, or Beethoven, or Buddha every few thousand million
tries or so. It's not worth the percent of the Gross National Product
that goes towards housing their "oopsies" in nice drab concrete
accommodations though.
Kinda like cloning, but rather than short living animals with major
health defects, the off spring of these people keep hanging around for
70 years, being a drag on everyone else.
On the other hand, if there was slavery, it would provide a nice pool
of cheap labour.
Matty
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| User: "Bill Bonde by a commodius vicus of" |
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21 Jun 2005 04:31:27 PM |
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Matty wrote:
On 2005-06-21 14:30:28 +1200, Dionisio <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> said:
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
Is that really the complaint that homosexuals have about 'breeders'? If
breeders use birth control, they are fine?
Nah, the real problem is the lack of quality, um, "output." Sure they
make an Einstein, or Beethoven, or Buddha every few thousand million
tries or so. It's not worth the percent of the Gross National Product
that goes towards housing their "oopsies" in nice drab concrete
accommodations though.
Kinda like cloning, but rather than short living animals with major
health defects, the off spring of these people keep hanging around for
70 years, being a drag on everyone else.
But since everyone else also comes from 'breeders', you can see the
problem with doing away with breeders, can't you?
--
"What do you value in your bulldogs? Gripping, is it not? It's their
nature? It's why you breed them? It's so with men. I will not give in
because I oppose it. Not my pride, not my spleen, nor any other of my
appetites, but *I* do. Is there in the midst of all this muscle no
single sinew that serves no appetite of Norfolk's but is just Norfolk?
Give that some exercise. Because, as you stand, you'll go before your
Maker ill-conditioned. He'll think that somewhere along your pedigree, a
***** got over the wall."
-+Paul Scofield, "A Man For All Seasons"
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| User: "Tim Crowley" |
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21 Jun 2005 06:02:08 PM |
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
But since everyone else also comes from 'breeders', you can see the
problem with doing away with breeders, can't you?
Have you heard anyone (other than the voices in your head) suggest we
do away with all breeders?
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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21 Jun 2005 06:07:19 PM |
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"Tim Crowley" <timmyturmoil@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1119376928.027292.240440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
But since everyone else also comes from 'breeders', you can see the
problem with doing away with breeders, can't you?
Have you heard anyone (other than the voices in your head) suggest we
do away with all breeders?
I was wondering where he got that as well.
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| User: "Bill Bonde by a commodius vicus of" |
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21 Jun 2005 06:45:54 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
"Tim Crowley" <timmyturmoil@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1119376928.027292.240440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
But since everyone else also comes from 'breeders', you can see the
problem with doing away with breeders, can't you?
Have you heard anyone (other than the voices in your head) suggest we
do away with all breeders?
I was wondering where he got that as well.
Me: > Is that really the complaint that homosexuals have about
'breeders'? If
Me: > breeders use birth control, they are fine?
other poster:>
Nah, the real problem is the lack of quality, um, "output." Sure they
make an Einstein, or Beethoven, or Buddha every few thousand million
tries or so. It's not worth the percent of the Gross National Product
that goes towards housing their "oopsies" in nice drab concrete
accommodations though.
I suppose I could've gone down the reference route and talked about that
Pirsig book that details the repair of motorcycles.
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