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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 15 Jan 2006 10:28:02 AM
Object: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong?
http://news10now.com/content/all_news/?ArID=57273&SecID=83
ESM teacher charged with sex abuse
A Minoa Elementary teacher charged with sexual abuse and endangering the
welfare of a child was told not to report to class indefinitely and is also
being stripped of his duties as a Boy Scout merit badge counselor. Robert
Sampson is accused of engaging in inappropriate sexual contact with a
10-year-old boy at the school.
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User: "Paul Duca"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 15 Jan 2006 09:07:19 PM
The Boy Scouts don't pay me...what does it matter?
Paul
Oh...and they don't pay J Yo, either.
.

User: "Brian Westley"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 15 Jan 2006 12:54:42 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:

http://news10now.com/content/all_news/?ArID=57273&SecID=83
ESM teacher charged with sex abuse

http://www.kpvi.com/index.cfm?page=nbcheadlines.cfm&ID=30623
JUDGE RULES BOY SCOUTS CAN BE LIABLE IN MOLESTATION CASE
Jan 14, 2006
IDAHO FALLS, Idaho (AP) -- A judge has ruled that the Boy Scouts of
America and the Grand Teton Council can be held liable for the actions
of a camp program director who was convicted of molesting two brothers.
The decision came Friday from Sixth District Court Judge Ronald Bush.
It opens the doors for the plaintiffs, 23-year-old Adam Steed and
26-year-old Ben Steed, to seek civil damages for their molestation by
Brad Stowell in 1997.
The brothers, who are from Pocatello, say Scout officials violated their
own guidelines by ignoring many warnings about Stowell.
---
Merlyn LeRoy
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 20 Jan 2006 09:21:00 PM
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:54:42 -0000, Brian Westley <westley@visi.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:

http://news10now.com/content/all_news/?ArID=57273&SecID=83


ESM teacher charged with sex abuse


http://www.kpvi.com/index.cfm?page=nbcheadlines.cfm&ID=30623

JUDGE RULES BOY SCOUTS CAN BE LIABLE IN MOLESTATION CASE
Jan 14, 2006

And may it be a multi-million dollar judgement.

IDAHO FALLS, Idaho (AP) -- A judge has ruled that the Boy Scouts of
America and the Grand Teton Council can be held liable for the actions
of a camp program director who was convicted of molesting two brothers.
The decision came Friday from Sixth District Court Judge Ronald Bush.

It opens the doors for the plaintiffs, 23-year-old Adam Steed and
26-year-old Ben Steed, to seek civil damages for their molestation by
Brad Stowell in 1997.

The brothers, who are from Pocatello, say Scout officials violated their
own guidelines by ignoring many warnings about Stowell.

---
Merlyn LeRoy

--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 16 Jan 2006 03:55:33 AM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote

http://news10now.com/content/all_news/?ArID=57273&SecID=83

ESM teacher charged with sex abuse

As L. Michael Roberts pointed out, you just proved that the
Boy Scouts are wrong.
You proved that the Boy Scouts are wrong.
The Boy Scout's policy doesn't work. Period. It doesn't protect
anyone, and it does discriminate against gay people and does
hurt gay teens.
Here:
| The Boy Scouts of America performs background checks on all
| of its employees and volunteers, and you have to have a clean
| slate to work for the organization. However, it's charges against
| people once they're on board is where the organization can run
| into some problems.
This guy in the story passed the Boy Scout's test. The Boy
Scouts looked at this man and decided that he was okay, that
he was the type of man that they want around the boys.
Clearly the Boy Scouts were wrong. Clearly the Boy Scout's
policy can not & does not stop men like him from "leading"
the boys. All the Boy Scout policy does, all it can do is hurt
honest & open people... honest & open Scouts.
That is the ONLY thing the Boy Scouts have ever accomplished.
They have never kept men like this out of the Scouts, and they
never will keep men like this out of the Scouts. Their policy is
simply flawed.
.
User: "Eric Bohlman"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 16 Jan 2006 05:43:54 AM
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in news:NsmdnSooIPpP91beRVn-
iw@comcast.com:

The Boy Scout's policy doesn't work. Period. It doesn't protect
anyone, and it does discriminate against gay people and does
hurt gay teens.

In all fairness to the BSA, they never claimed that their anti-gay policy
was intended to keep sexual abusers out (in fact, their arguments in _Dale_
stated that they were aware that gay men are at no higher risk of abusing
boys than are straight men). Their argument was that their opposition to
homosexuality was a matter of belief and that prohibiting them from kicking
out gay members amounted to forced political speech.
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 17 Jan 2006 06:08:55 PM
"Eric Bohlman" <ebohlman@omsdev.com> wrote

"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote

The Boy Scout's policy doesn't work. Period. It doesn't protect
anyone, and it does discriminate against gay people and does
hurt gay teens.

In all fairness to the BSA, they never claimed that their anti-gay
policy was intended to keep sexual abusers out

I know. But, as I always said, it is intended to HURT some kids.
The gay kids. The policy is designed to hurt gay kids, and the
Boyscouts are willing to accept a few straight kids getting raped,
if it means they can hurt gay kids.
"Acceptable loss."
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 20 Jan 2006 09:27:13 PM
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:08:55 -0500, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism


"Eric Bohlman" <ebohlman@omsdev.com> wrote

"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote


The Boy Scout's policy doesn't work. Period. It doesn't protect
anyone, and it does discriminate against gay people and does
hurt gay teens.


In all fairness to the BSA, they never claimed that their anti-gay
policy was intended to keep sexual abusers out


I know. But, as I always said, it is intended to HURT some kids.
The gay kids. The policy is designed to hurt gay kids, and the
Boyscouts are willing to accept a few straight kids getting raped,
if it means they can hurt gay kids.

"Acceptable loss."

Collateral Damage for a 'greater good,' and part of the 'divine plan.'
--
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at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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User: "Bitching Bonney"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 16 Jan 2006 05:18:12 AM
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 04:55:33 -0500, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote

http://news10now.com/content/all_news/?ArID=57273&SecID=83

ESM teacher charged with sex abuse


As L. Michael Roberts pointed out, you just proved that the
Boy Scouts are wrong.

You proved that the Boy Scouts are wrong.

The Boy Scout's policy doesn't work. Period. It doesn't protect
anyone, and it does discriminate against gay people and does
hurt gay teens.

Here:

| The Boy Scouts of America performs background checks on all
| of its employees and volunteers, and you have to have a clean
| slate to work for the organization. However, it's charges against
| people once they're on board is where the organization can run
| into some problems.

This guy in the story passed the Boy Scout's test. The Boy
Scouts looked at this man and decided that he was okay, that
he was the type of man that they want around the boys.

Clearly the Boy Scouts were wrong. Clearly the Boy Scout's
policy can not & does not stop men like him from "leading"
the boys. All the Boy Scout policy does, all it can do is hurt
honest & open people... honest & open Scouts.

That is the ONLY thing the Boy Scouts have ever accomplished.
They have never kept men like this out of the Scouts, and they
never will keep men like this out of the Scouts. Their policy is
simply flawed.

It sure as hell GETS THEM OUT -- Had the SCOTUS found differently they
(BSA) wouldn't have had that back-up protection against homosexuals
who lie about their preying on boys. Aren't you pleased about that and
the fact that it does serve as a strong shield for boys from
homosexual lust? I am.
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 17 Jan 2006 06:06:59 PM
"Bitching Bonney" <bibon@Rβlant.org> wrote

This guy in the story passed the Boy Scout's test. The Boy
Scouts looked at this man and decided that he was okay, that
he was the type of man that they want around the boys.

Clearly the Boy Scouts were wrong. Clearly the Boy Scout's
policy can not & does not stop men like him from "leading"
the boys. All the Boy Scout policy does, all it can do is hurt
honest & open people... honest & open Scouts.

It sure as hell GETS THEM OUT

I know you're a drooling troll, but you have it backwards. It got him
in. Going by the Boyscout's policy, using their standards, they
identified this guy as the kind of man they wanted camping with the
boys.
It's THE LAW that gets these people OUT, after they are caught...
but only AFTER they are caught.
The Boyscouts are endangering kids.
.

User: "Paul Duca"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 16 Jan 2006 08:23:17 PM
in article 5tvms1dt6c83jc6jjdaaortrpvooj5umrg@4ax.com, Bitching Bonney at
bibon@R?lant.org wrote on 1/16/06 6:18 AM:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 04:55:33 -0500, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote

http://news10now.com/content/all_news/?ArID=57273&SecID=83

ESM teacher charged with sex abuse


As L. Michael Roberts pointed out, you just proved that the
Boy Scouts are wrong.

You proved that the Boy Scouts are wrong.

The Boy Scout's policy doesn't work. Period. It doesn't protect
anyone, and it does discriminate against gay people and does
hurt gay teens.

Here:

| The Boy Scouts of America performs background checks on all
| of its employees and volunteers, and you have to have a clean
| slate to work for the organization. However, it's charges against
| people once they're on board is where the organization can run
| into some problems.

This guy in the story passed the Boy Scout's test. The Boy
Scouts looked at this man and decided that he was okay, that
he was the type of man that they want around the boys.

Clearly the Boy Scouts were wrong. Clearly the Boy Scout's
policy can not & does not stop men like him from "leading"
the boys. All the Boy Scout policy does, all it can do is hurt
honest & open people... honest & open Scouts.

That is the ONLY thing the Boy Scouts have ever accomplished.
They have never kept men like this out of the Scouts, and they
never will keep men like this out of the Scouts. Their policy is
simply flawed.



It sure as hell GETS THEM OUT -- Had the SCOTUS found differently they
(BSA) wouldn't have had that back-up protection against homosexuals
who lie about their preying on boys. Aren't you pleased about that and
the fact that it does serve as a strong shield for boys from
homosexual lust? I am.

You and I should be pissed it doesn't get us money...
Paul
--
.



User: "Parsifal"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 15 Jan 2006 11:46:04 AM
Funny how many stories about child molestation J Young is sending every
day (without realizing how much his beloved church is implicated in
most of them)... I guess that's where he gets his turns on....
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 15 Jan 2006 11:48:06 AM
In News 1137347164.500394.145970@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com,, Parsifal at
jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com, typed this:

Funny how many stories about child molestation J Young is sending
every day (without realizing how much his beloved church is
implicated in most of them)... I guess that's where he gets his turns
on....

Yeah, I here where the RCC in Boston will have to pay out another huge
settlement for protecting pedophiles in its ranks. You'd think he'd be
working on cleaning up his own house, before trying to clean everyone
else's.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
.


User: "*nemo*"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 15 Jan 2006 02:27:38 PM
In article <s_GdnU45xdVl6lfeRVn-vw@giganews.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

A Minoa Elementary teacher charged with sexual abuse and endangering the
welfare of a child was told not to report to class indefinitely and is also
being stripped of his duties as a Boy Scout merit badge counselor. Robert
Sampson is accused of engaging in inappropriate sexual contact with a
10-year-old boy at the school.

Yes, the BSA is indeed wrong about banning atheist and gay leaders and
members. Why do you ask?
--
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User: "Onanite"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 15 Jan 2006 11:16:16 AM
J Young wrote:
"A Minoa Elementary teacher charged with sexual abuse"
Some more information... the teacher was married, and a deacon in a
local Christian church. I guess it is time for the Boy Scouts to get
rid of Christians in their ranks.
Onanite
http://onanite.blogspot.com/
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User: "No One"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 16 Jan 2006 01:39:14 PM
"Onanite" <mastrait@efn.org> writes:

J Young wrote:

"A Minoa Elementary teacher charged with sexual abuse"

Some more information... the teacher was married, and a deacon in a
local Christian church. I guess it is time for the Boy Scouts to get
rid of Christians in their ranks.

Thus once again proving J Young's biases. If the teacher was married,
wouldn't you expect him to be straight? What you probably have is
some creep who likes, or at least tolerates, adult women, and who
likes little boys, but who has no interest at all in adult men.
Whatever he is, a person fitting that description is not gay.
What the boy scouts are actually doing by banning openly gay
men is to exclude the people least likely to abuse children,
thereby leading to pedophiles being overly represented in
the origanization. The Boy Scout's policy is actually
increasing the risk to children.
.
User: "Freddy X"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 17 Jan 2006 03:13:51 AM
No One wrote:

"Onanite" <mastrait@efn.org> writes:

J Young wrote:

"A Minoa Elementary teacher charged with sexual abuse"

Some more information... the teacher was married, and a deacon in a
local Christian church. I guess it is time for the Boy Scouts to get
rid of Christians in their ranks.


Thus once again proving J Young's biases. If the teacher was married,
wouldn't you expect him to be straight? What you probably have is
some creep who likes, or at least tolerates, adult women, and who
likes little boys, but who has no interest at all in adult men.
Whatever he is, a person fitting that description is not gay.

If a male is sexually attracted to another male, then that sounds
pretty gay to me.

What the boy scouts are actually doing by banning openly gay
men is to exclude the people least likely to abuse children,
thereby leading to pedophiles being overly represented in
the origanization. The Boy Scout's policy is actually
increasing the risk to children.

And yet every institution dealing with boys that lets in openly gay men
has problems with pedophilia! Coincidence? I think not!
.
User: "No One"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 17 Jan 2006 10:16:56 PM
"Freddy X" <dancesucka@rock.com> writes:

No One wrote:

"Onanite" <mastrait@efn.org> writes:

J Young wrote:

"A Minoa Elementary teacher charged with sexual abuse"

Some more information... the teacher was married, and a deacon in a
local Christian church. I guess it is time for the Boy Scouts to get
rid of Christians in their ranks.


Thus once again proving J Young's biases. If the teacher was married,
wouldn't you expect him to be straight? What you probably have is
some creep who likes, or at least tolerates, adult women, and who
likes little boys, but who has no interest at all in adult men.
Whatever he is, a person fitting that description is not gay.


If a male is sexually attracted to another male, then that sounds
pretty gay to me.

It doesn't sound very "gay" if the guy has zero interest in adult men.


What the boy scouts are actually doing by banning openly gay
men is to exclude the people least likely to abuse children,
thereby leading to pedophiles being overly represented in
the origanization. The Boy Scout's policy is actually
increasing the risk to children.


And yet every institution dealing with boys that lets in openly gay men
has problems with pedophilia! Coincidence? I think not!

Well, they could solve that problem by banning the straight guys. :-)
Openly gay men are probably the least likely to go after young boys.
.

User: "L. Michael Roberts"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 17 Jan 2006 07:57:02 AM
Freddy X wrote:

No One wrote:

"Onanite" <mastrait@efn.org> writes:

J Young wrote:

<snip>

If a male is sexually attracted to another male, then that sounds
pretty gay to me.

Have you told this to the men who have sex with other men in prison and
then go home to their wives when they are released?
<snip>
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User: "Freddy X"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 18 Jan 2006 02:05:14 AM
L. Michael Roberts wrote:

Freddy X wrote:

No One wrote:

"Onanite" <mastrait@efn.org> writes:

J Young wrote:


<snip>

If a male is sexually attracted to another male, then that sounds
pretty gay to me.


Have you told this to the men who have sex with other men in prison and
then go home to their wives when they are released?

Either they suck ***** or they don't. Once you go gay, you're there to
stay.
Your pal,
Freddy X
.


User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 04 Feb 2006 05:17:59 AM
In News 1137489231.165119.259570@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,, Freddy X at
dancesucka@rock.com, typed this:

No One wrote:

"Onanite" <mastrait@efn.org> writes:

J Young wrote:

"A Minoa Elementary teacher charged with sexual abuse"

Some more information... the teacher was married, and a deacon in a
local Christian church. I guess it is time for the Boy Scouts to
get rid of Christians in their ranks.


Thus once again proving J Young's biases. If the teacher was
married, wouldn't you expect him to be straight? What you probably
have is some creep who likes, or at least tolerates, adult women,
and who likes little boys, but who has no interest at all in adult
men. Whatever he is, a person fitting that description is not gay.


If a male is sexually attracted to another male, then that sounds
pretty gay to me.

It always does to an idiot. However, pedophilia is not a sexual
orientation, and it can, and most often does, operate outside of a person's
sexual orientation. In other words, many sexual predators who target boys
are in a stable adult relationship with a woman, they have children, etc...


What the boy scouts are actually doing by banning openly gay
men is to exclude the people least likely to abuse children,
thereby leading to pedophiles being overly represented in
the origanization. The Boy Scout's policy is actually
increasing the risk to children.


And yet every institution dealing with boys that lets in openly gay
men has problems with pedophilia! Coincidence? I think not!

Nonsense, now you're just lying. Name such an organization.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "ۥR.L.Measures"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 04 Feb 2006 10:27:56 AM
In article <H30Ff.5792$Nv2.3749@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News 1137489231.165119.259570@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,, Freddy X at
dancesucka@rock.com, typed this:

No One wrote:

"Onanite" <mastrait@efn.org> writes:

J Young wrote:

"A Minoa Elementary teacher charged with sexual abuse"

Some more information... the teacher was married, and a deacon in a
local Christian church. I guess it is time for the Boy Scouts to
get rid of Christians in their ranks.


Thus once again proving J Young's biases. If the teacher was
married, wouldn't you expect him to be straight? What you probably
have is some creep who likes, or at least tolerates, adult women,
and who likes little boys, but who has no interest at all in adult
men. Whatever he is, a person fitting that description is not gay.


If a male is sexually attracted to another male, then that sounds
pretty gay to me.


It always does to an idiot. However, pedophilia is not a sexual
orientation, and it can, and most often does, operate outside of a person's
sexual orientation. In other words, many sexual predators who target boys
are in a stable adult relationship with a woman, they have children, etc...


What the boy scouts are actually doing by banning openly gay
men is to exclude the people least likely to abuse children,
thereby leading to pedophiles being overly represented in
the origanization. The Boy Scout's policy is actually
increasing the risk to children.


And yet every institution dealing with boys that lets in openly gay
men has problems with pedophilia! Coincidence? I think not!


Nonsense, now you're just lying. Name such an organization.

** I left the Boy Scouts because a non-hetero Assistant Scoutmaster was
trying to bugger boys in our troop. About 5-years later, he was
incarcerated in a men's prison. My guess is that he would have been
punished more in a women's prison.
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User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 04 Feb 2006 10:39:12 AM
(ۥR.L.Measures) wrote in
news:r_-0402060827560001@192.168.1.101:

** I left the Boy Scouts because a non-hetero Assistant Scoutmaster
was trying to bugger boys in our troop. About 5-years later, he was
incarcerated in a men's prison. My guess is that he would have been
punished more in a women's prison.

I left because they made me pray.
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User: "ۥR.L.Measures"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 04 Feb 2006 02:16:13 PM
In article <Xns9760580FEA9AE255229@130.133.1.4>, Enkidu
<jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote:

r_@somis.org (ۥR.L.Measures) wrote in
news:r_-0402060827560001@192.168.1.101:


** I left the Boy Scouts because a non-hetero Assistant Scoutmaster
was trying to bugger boys in our troop. About 5-years later, he was
incarcerated in a men's prison. My guess is that he would have been
punished more in a women's prison.


I left because they made me pray.

• Was your troop affiliated with an organized religion?
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User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 04 Feb 2006 03:47:45 PM
(ۥR.L.Measures) wrote in news:r_-0402061216130001@
192.168.1.101:

In article <Xns9760580FEA9AE255229@130.133.1.4>, Enkidu
<jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote:

(ۥR.L.Measures) wrote in
news:r_-0402060827560001@192.168.1.101:


** I left the Boy Scouts because a non-hetero Assistant Scoutmaster
was trying to bugger boys in our troop. About 5-years later, he was
incarcerated in a men's prison. My guess is that he would have been
punished more in a women's prison.


I left because they made me pray.


• Was your troop affiliated with an organized religion?

My troop was affiliated with the United States Navy, Yokuska, Japan, Far
East Council.
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ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
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and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger
with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change
them.
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User: "ۥR.L.Measures"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 05 Feb 2006 06:52:09 AM
In article <Xns97608C5E9E7C7255229@130.133.1.4>, Enkidu
<jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote:

r_@somis.org (ۥR.L.Measures) wrote in news:r_-0402061216130001@
192.168.1.101:

In article <Xns9760580FEA9AE255229@130.133.1.4>, Enkidu
<jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote:

r_@somis.org (ۥR.L.Measures) wrote in
news:r_-0402060827560001@192.168.1.101:


** I left the Boy Scouts because a non-hetero Assistant Scoutmaster
was trying to bugger boys in our troop. About 5-years later, he was
incarcerated in a men's prison. My guess is that he would have been
punished more in a women's prison.


I left because they made me pray.


• Was your troop affiliated with an organized religion?


My troop was affiliated with the United States Navy, Yokuska, Japan, Far
East Council.

• Thanks. In our town, there was a Catholic troop, a Mormon troop, and a
generic troop. I belonged to the latter, where one's religion didn't
matter.
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User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 04 Feb 2006 04:48:50 PM
In News r_-0402061216130001@192.168.1.101,, ۥR.L.Measures at r_@somis.org,
typed this:

In article <Xns9760580FEA9AE255229@130.133.1.4>, Enkidu
<jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote:

r_@somis.org (ۥR.L.Measures) wrote in
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** I left the Boy Scouts because a non-hetero Assistant Scoutmaster
was trying to bugger boys in our troop. About 5-years later, he was
incarcerated in a men's prison. My guess is that he would have been
punished more in a women's prison.


I left because they made me pray.


• Was your troop affiliated with an organized religion?

According to their pledge, all troops are affiliated with an organized
religion.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "ۥR.L.Measures"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 05 Feb 2006 06:56:43 AM
In article <mbaFf.10631$rH5.1066@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News r_-0402061216130001@192.168.1.101,, ۥR.L.Measures at r_@somis.org,
typed this:

In article <Xns9760580FEA9AE255229@130.133.1.4>, Enkidu
<jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote:

r_@somis.org (ۥR.L.Measures) wrote in
news:r_-0402060827560001@192.168.1.101:


** I left the Boy Scouts because a non-hetero Assistant Scoutmaster
was trying to bugger boys in our troop. About 5-years later, he was
incarcerated in a men's prison. My guess is that he would have been
punished more in a women's prison.


I left because they made me pray.


• Was your troop affiliated with an organized religion?


According to their pledge, all troops are affiliated with an organized
religion.

• not quite
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User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 05 Feb 2006 06:59:08 AM
In News r_-0502060456430001@192.168.1.101,, ۥR.L.Measures at r_@somis.org,
typed this:

In article <mbaFf.10631$rH5.1066@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News r_-0402061216130001@192.168.1.101,, ۥR.L.Measures at
r_@somis.org, typed this:

In article <Xns9760580FEA9AE255229@130.133.1.4>, Enkidu
<jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote:

r_@somis.org (ۥR.L.Measures) wrote in
news:r_-0402060827560001@192.168.1.101:


** I left the Boy Scouts because a non-hetero Assistant
Scoutmaster was trying to bugger boys in our troop. About
5-years later, he was incarcerated in a men's prison. My guess
is that he would have been punished more in a women's prison.


I left because they made me pray.


• Was your troop affiliated with an organized religion?


According to their pledge, all troops are affiliated with an
organized religion.


• not quite

Yes, quite.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "ۥR.L.Measures"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 05 Feb 2006 08:26:36 AM
In article <wEmFf.6368$Nv2.5729@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News r_-0502060456430001@192.168.1.101,, ۥR.L.Measures at r_@somis.org,
typed this:

In article <mbaFf.10631$rH5.1066@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News r_-0402061216130001@192.168.1.101,, ۥR.L.Measures at
r_@somis.org, typed this:

In article <Xns9760580FEA9AE255229@130.133.1.4>, Enkidu
<jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote:

r_@somis.org (ۥR.L.Measures) wrote in
news:r_-0402060827560001@192.168.1.101:


** I left the Boy Scouts because a non-hetero Assistant
Scoutmaster was trying to bugger boys in our troop. About
5-years later, he was incarcerated in a men's prison. My guess
is that he would have been punished more in a women's prison.


I left because they made me pray.


• Was your troop affiliated with an organized religion?


According to their pledge, all troops are affiliated with an
organized religion.


• not quite


Yes, quite.

• Which organized religion was the troop I belonged too affiliated with?
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User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Still believe the Boy Scouts are wrong? 05 Feb 2006 08:45:36 AM
In News r_-0502060626360001@192.168.1.101,, ۥR.L.Measures at r_@somis.org,
typed this:

In article <wEmFf.6368$Nv2.5729@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News r_-0502060456430001@192.168.1.101,, ۥR.L.Measures at
r_@somis.org, typed this:

In article <mbaFf.10631$rH5.1066@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News r_-0402061216130001@192.168.1.101,, ۥR.L.Measures at
r_@somis.org, typed this:

In article <Xns9760580FEA9AE255229@130.133.1.4>, Enkidu
<jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote:

r_@somis.org (ۥR.L.Measures) wrote in
news:r_-0402060827560001@192.168.1.101:


** I left the Boy Scouts because a non-hetero Assistant
Scoutmaster was trying to bugger boys in our troop. About
5-years later, he was incarcerated in a men's prison. My guess
is that he would have been punished more in a women's prison.


I left because they made me pray.


• Was your troop affiliated with an organized religion?


According to their pledge, all troops are affiliated with an
organized religion.


• not quite


Yes, quite.


• Which organized religion was the troop I belonged too affiliated
with?

The one you swore an oath to. You know, the Judaic/Christian God, have you
forgotten? You do know that both Judaism and Christianity are organized
religions, right?
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
.













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