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"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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Still Think You Won't Get Drafted To Go Die For AWOL's Lie? |
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04319/411224.stm
Because he was discharged well after his prior reserve obligation had
passed, the Army laid no further claim to him, until someone in St.
Louis ignored those zeroes and went hunting for a fresh body to fill a
manpower shortage that grows more painful with every Iraqi sunset.
"They basically told me that my Marine Corps time doesn't count as
military service," Pistorius said. Faced with a threat of AWOL
charges, and worried that a spotless military record was about to be
stained, Pistorius headed last month to Camp McGrady in South
Carolina.
"The first thing they did was thank us for showing up," Pistorius
said. "They had 150 that were supposed to show up and about 75 did. Of
those 75 maybe only 40 or 50 are medically fit." [...]
When I first spoke to Pistorius, by telephone from the camp, he said
nobody had been given a physical. He told his Army commanders that he
had a permanent back injury from a car crash. They were unimpressed by
a letter from his chiropractor. His pre-deployment health assessment
lists him in this word: "Deployable."
Pistorius spoke with his captain.
"He said everybody here's going to Iraq," Pistorius said. "It's
unbelievable some of the guys they're bringing down there."
One man arrived with a hospital identification band still on his
wrist. He'd just had knee surgery. One 48-year-old from Alabama had a
hip replacement and fused vertebrae in his back.
"He showed them the documents, but they still made him come down to be
examined by their doctors," Pistorius said. Pistorius spoke of a man
called back from upstate New York.
"He had no teeth and he had arthritis in his leg," he said [...]
He said at one point an Army lawyer in South Carolina held out the
receiver so he could hear the person on the other end explain that his
big problem was showing up. So many people had either moved or ignored
their orders to report that the Army was loath to part with a
reasonably healthy one that had.
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25 Nov 2004 06:54:59 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message news:<ll2ip05rvkouvpmdtil7lh1qdbaup5ovq9@4ax.com>...
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04319/411224.stm
Because he was discharged well after his prior reserve obligation had
passed, the Army laid no further claim to him, until someone in St.
Louis ignored those zeroes and went hunting for a fresh body to fill a
manpower shortage that grows more painful with every Iraqi sunset.
<snip>
"The first thing they did was thank us for showing up," Pistorius
said. "They had 150 that were supposed to show up and about 75 did. Of
those 75 maybe only 40 or 50 are medically fit." [...]
<snip>
He said at one point an Army lawyer in South Carolina held out the
receiver so he could hear the person on the other end explain that his
big problem was showing up. So many people had either moved or ignored
their orders to report that the Army was loath to part with a
reasonably healthy one that had.
I've always been loathe to compare the US to Germany (both
World War II *or* I) for several reasons, but the term "A-1"
comes to mind after reading this, as does the Shanghai-ing
of children.
Don't be surprised if adult women are put into places like
Falujja on a regular basis in the near future.
Bob Dog
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: Still Think You Won't Get Drafted To Go Die For AWOL's Lie? |
15 Nov 2004 05:57:06 PM |
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I guarantee it.
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| User: "stoney" |
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17 Nov 2004 12:05:00 PM |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:01:33 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04319/411224.stm
The Army's long arm
Sunday, November 14, 2004
By Dennis Roddy
GREENVILLE, Pa. -- Three years after he was honorably discharged from
the Army, Frederick Pistorius was surprised to learn he was a
deserter.
But there it was, on his doorstep: a letter from Barry W. Kimmons,
Deputy Chief, Deserter Information Point Extension Office of the Army
Reserve Personnel Command.
"On 12 July 2004 you were involuntarily mobilized to active duty in
the United States Army," the letter says. "To date you have not
reported to your mobilization station as required by your orders."
Possibly Pistorius had not responded for two reasons. The Pistorius
family had moved from the address in Sharon, Pa., to which the Army
had sent its first letter. More saliently, having served honorably in
not one but two branches of the U.S. military, with no additional
obligation showing on his discharge papers, Pistorius would have had
no reason to think he was subject to anything but his civilian job at
a local steel plant.
Wendy Pistorius opened the letter and immediately telephoned an
official at the Army reserve command in St. Louis.
"I told him there must be a mistake, because my husband had fulfilled
his obligation," she said. "He basically told me that the Army does
not make mistakes and that the orders were valid and if he did not
show up as per the orders he would be prosecuted and taken to jail."
So began a two-month journey through the Army of Franz Kafka.
The paper trail is fairly straightforward on this one. Pistorius
joined the Marine Corps in 1993. When he left the corps, he had a
reserve obligation that expired June 25, 2000. The pool into which he
would have gone is called the Individual Ready Reserve -- essentially
former military available for service in times of emergency. After a
few months of knocking around for work, Pistorius decided to go back
into the military, get more training in his specialty -- cook -- and
complete his reserve obligation with full-time duty. The Marines
weren't taking back departed members who'd been out for a year, so, in
1998, he joined the Army, signing a three-year contract.
Pistorius was honorably discharged from the Army in July 20, 2001. His
certificate of release attests to his accomplishments: Army
Achievement Medal, National Defense Service Medal, Sharpshooter
qualification. The upper corner is the spot in which the military
lists a departing member's reserve obligation, the amount of time
discharged soldiers, sailors and Marines remain subject to recall. For
Pistorius, the boxes contain a succession of zeroes.
Because he was discharged well after his prior reserve obligation had
passed, the Army laid no further claim to him, until someone in St.
Louis ignored those zeroes and went hunting for a fresh body to fill a
manpower shortage that grows more painful with every Iraqi sunset.
"They basically told me that my Marine Corps time doesn't count as
military service," Pistorius said. Faced with a threat of AWOL
charges, and worried that a spotless military record was about to be
stained, Pistorius headed last month to Camp McGrady in South
Carolina.
"The first thing they did was thank us for showing up," Pistorius
said. "They had 150 that were supposed to show up and about 75 did. Of
those 75 maybe only 40 or 50 are medically fit."
Here, Pistorius's Army recruitment contract comes into play. It was
the one document he says he had not kept, figuring his military days
were over. The Army public affairs office did not return phone calls
asking about the matter so we have only Pistorius' version. He said he
asked for a copy, but was always told the thing was "in transit" from
St. Louis. The contract would settle any questions about whether he
might have, inadvertently, signed up for another round of reserve
duty, but it seems implausible.
Equally implausible were the men who turned up at Camp McGrady last
month.
When I first spoke to Pistorius, by telephone from the camp, he said
nobody had been given a physical. He told his Army commanders that he
had a permanent back injury from a car crash. They were unimpressed by
a letter from his chiropractor. His pre-deployment health assessment
lists him in this word: "Deployable."
Pistorius spoke with his captain.
"He said everybody here's going to Iraq," Pistorius said. "It's
unbelievable some of the guys they're bringing down there."
One man arrived with a hospital identification band still on his
wrist. He'd just had knee surgery. One 48-year-old from Alabama had a
hip replacement and fused vertebrae in his back.
"He showed them the documents, but they still made him come down to be
examined by their doctors," Pistorius said. Pistorius spoke of a man
called back from upstate New York.
"He had no teeth and he had arthritis in his leg," he said.
Andrew Bacevich, a retired Army colonel and now a professor at Boston
University, wasn't surprised at the report.
"The Individual Ready Reserve -- that title is a misnomer. They're not
ready," Bacevich said. "It's the equivalent of me walking out here on
Commonwealth Avenue in Boston, and taking the first 5,000 people I
meet and saying 'you're now in the military.' "
At Camp McGrady, Pistorius kept up his campaign to convince the Army
they had essentially drafted a civilian. Back home, Wendy Pistorius
assembled a list of numbers: St. Louis, her senator's office, the
White House. One person would tell her that her husband shouldn't have
been called up. Another would tell Frederick Pistorius that it was
simply his turn.
He said at one point an Army lawyer in South Carolina held out the
receiver so he could hear the person on the other end explain that his
big problem was showing up. So many people had either moved or ignored
their orders to report that the Army was loath to part with a
reasonably healthy one that had.
Suddenly, on Nov. 5, Pistorius was ordered to pack up. He was driven
to the airport and told he was going home. At the last minute, he was
handed a letter declaring: "You are released from active duty, by
reason of physical disability." He had already packed up the
pre-deployment assessment that said precisely the opposite. The letter
also says he's subject to reserve obligation until Feb. 26, 2006.
The Pistorius family, with its three children, ages 6, 5 and 2, is now
trying to figure out what to do without a month's wages. "I just put
everything off," Wendy Pistorius said. "I paid only the bills I
absolutely had to."
The Army took back the family separation allowance he was given when
called to Camp McGrady. Frederick Pistorius is working a swing shift
at the local tube plant and trying to figure out if the Army still
considers him a reservist and if he's going to get another letter from
St. Louis.
"I don't want to get arrested in front of my kids," he said.
/end
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Still Think You Won't Get Drafted To Go Die For AWOL's Lie? |
17 Nov 2004 11:09:19 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:01:33 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04319/411224.stm
<snip article for brevity>
The sad thing is that the neocons won't see a thing wrong with this.
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| User: "Gactimus" |
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18 Nov 2004 07:17:32 AM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:01:33 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04319/411224.stm
The sad thing is that the neocons won't see a thing wrong with this.
As someone who is currently in the military, I say that if his story was
true then he shouldn't have been called up. He should have just ignored
the letters and called a lawyer.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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17 Nov 2004 11:17:06 PM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:38Wmd.9455$T13.198@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:rl4np0pee5ehbq0ig5g4sh0mok64nr1l42@4ax.com...
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:01:33 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04319/411224.stm
<snip article for brevity>
The sad thing is that the neocons won't see a thing wrong with this.
define neocon please.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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18 Nov 2004 08:57:00 AM |
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In article <OeCdnet9HsA8sgHcRVn-3w@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:38Wmd.9455$T13.198@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:rl4np0pee5ehbq0ig5g4sh0mok64nr1l42@4ax.com...
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:01:33 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04319/411224.stm
<snip article for brevity>
The sad thing is that the neocons won't see a thing wrong with this.
define neocon please.
Moron. Neo, as in "new." Con, as in "conservative."
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| User: "stoney" |
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18 Nov 2004 03:52:00 PM |
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 05:09:19 GMT, "John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net>
wrote:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:rl4np0pee5ehbq0ig5g4sh0mok64nr1l42@4ax.com...
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:01:33 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04319/411224.stm
<snip article for brevity>
The sad thing is that the neocons won't see a thing wrong with this.
Nor will most bush voters.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Ærchie" |
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18 Nov 2004 04:09:39 AM |
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Twas brillig and a slithy tove named John Baker didst gyre and gimble in
the wabe while reciting:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:rl4np0pee5ehbq0ig5g4sh0mok64nr1l42@4ax.com...
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:01:33 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04319/411224.stm
<snip article for brevity>
The sad thing is that the neocons won't see a thing wrong with this.
They will keep saying "It will never happen. You are just being a crybaby."
Right up to the day the draft is announced. Then they will change their
mantra to "How dare you oppose this."
Ooops - "mantra" is a left-wing socialist democrat fuckwit word.
Ærchie, you are just a dumb leftist sodomite pervert fuckwit troll.
Moja (uk.legal)
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| User: "Mel" |
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24 Nov 2004 11:41:58 PM |
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:09:39 +0800, Ærchie <archive23@pphotmail.com> wrote
in message <8vsop0hk40i79ek0td6flp5krftnn22ahj@4ax.com>:
Twas brillig and a slithy tove named John Baker didst gyre and gimble in
the wabe while reciting:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:01:33 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04319/411224.stm
<snip article for brevity>
The sad thing is that the neocons won't see a thing wrong with this.
They will keep saying "It will never happen. You are just being a crybaby."
Right up to the day the draft is announced. Then they will change their
mantra to "How dare you oppose this."
Ooops - "mantra" is a left-wing socialist democrat fuckwit word.
Ærchie, you are just a dumb leftist sodomite pervert fuckwit troll.
Moja (uk.legal)
no person in any country should ever report for duty if they have been
conscripted and they are unwilling to serve.
conscription is evil.
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25 Nov 2004 02:34:41 PM |
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"Mel" <mel@atj.fag.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:09:39 +0800, Ærchie <archive23@pphotmail.com> wrote
in message <8vsop0hk40i79ek0td6flp5krftnn22ahj@4ax.com>:
Twas brillig and a slithy tove named John Baker didst gyre and gimble in
the wabe while reciting:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:01:33 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04319/411224.stm
<snip article for brevity>
The sad thing is that the neocons won't see a thing wrong with this.
They will keep saying "It will never happen. You are just being a
crybaby."
Right up to the day the draft is announced. Then they will change their
mantra to "How dare you oppose this."
Ooops - "mantra" is a left-wing socialist democrat fuckwit word.
Ærchie, you are just a dumb leftist sodomite pervert fuckwit troll.
Moja (uk.legal)
no person in any country should ever report for duty if they have been
conscripted and they are unwilling to serve.
is that why you deserted fag boy?
conscription is evil.
just like you are fag boy.
DEATH STAR = DEATH TRAP
For all the yipping Admiral Motti does about his station being the "ultimate
power in the universe," certain aspects of the Death Star's construction
leave a lot to be desired. Indeed, on several occasions the Death Star's
sinister engineers seemingly made it one of their design specifications to
make things as dangerous as possible.
Consider these examples:
*1. THE SUPERLASER
Each of the superlaser's seven constituent beams shoots down a manned
accelerator tunnel, causing anyone who might be standing next to these beams
to shirk against the wall and hope they aren't disintegrated by a stray
static charge (fig.1). Each beam has at least enough power to destroy a
planet one-seventh the size of Alderaan, so we can assume close-up exposure
to any of them could lead to massive epidermal ionization, incurable
melanoma or, at very least, unwanted freckles.
The superlaser accelerator tunnels probably have to be worker- accessible,
and I'm not calling for a removal of the catwalks alongside the beams'
paths. But couldn't they sufficiently warn the technicians before the thing
was going to be fired so they could move out of harm's way? Would the
installation of a few lousy warning lights really have cost that much more
in the Emperor's grand scheme of things?
*2. DANGEROUS ALLOCATION OF ARTIFICIAL GRAVITY
Any spherical battle station the size of a small moon would have its own
gravity, wherein "down" would be directed toward the station's center. But
we can tell the Death Star uses artificial gravity generators, because
"down" is always in the direction of the station's "south pole." (Those
Imperial boobs actually expend energy to defeat a core-oriented gravity
situation that would have made more sense to begin with! Suckers!) Given
that the station utilizes artificial gravity generators, why aren't they
turned off or just plain not installed beneath the station's slew of
virtually bottomless chasms? Countless stormtroopers (stormtroopers with
families, I would remind you) would have lived to fight another day were
their minor blaster wounds not followed by a plunge into oblivion (fig. 2).
Okay, okay. It's possible that only one gravity generator services the
entire Death Star, and that that generator can't be fine-tuned to provide
gravity to only certain areas. But if that's the case, then why is there
a...
*3. COMPLETE LACK OF SAFETY RAILS AROUND DEADLY CHASMS
Take docking bay 327, for example (figs. 3, 4). There's a huge elevator
shaft in the floor, in the middle of what is obviously a high-traffic area.
And not so much as a "Watch Your Step" sign. Even more preposterous is the
placement of controls for the tractor beam, hundreds of feet up and
surrounded only by a precarious six-inch circular ledge (fig. 5). Sure, this
setup worked to the Empire's advantage at least once, significantly slowing
down Obi Wan's attempt to sabotage the controls, but I'll bet the ratio of
Rebel sabotage incidents to legitimate tractor beam maintenance by certified
Imperial workers wasn't low enough to justify the risky panel placement.
*4. UNPREDICTABLE, GUILLOTINE-SPEED PRESSURE DOORS
Sure, they look cool, but how many stormtroopers have to whack their heads
running into rooms before the Emporer takes notice (fig.6)? We saw it happen
once, and we were privy to only an hour or so of Death Star footage. Imagine
what goes on during those thousands of hours we didn't see! How many
concussions have occured? How many slow-moving saps have been cut in half by
the doors as they sliced down into the floor with the efficiency of a
galactic-scale French revolution? It is my hope and dream that one day, the
Emporer's dark servants will form a union and work to correct these flagrant
safety violations.
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member, ATJ regs
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http://www.atjfag.com/
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http://adderleystreet.co.za/capetown/
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15 Nov 2004 05:14:18 PM |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:01:33 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting
*****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Yang, do you have any idea what you're always gripping about. True to the form that you
always exhibit, you tell the truth and nothing but the truth, but not the whole truth.
Because he was discharged well after his prior reserve obligation had
passed, the Army laid no further claim to him, until someone in St.
Louis ignored those zeroes and went hunting for a fresh body to fill a
manpower shortage that grows more painful with every Iraqi sunset.
"They basically told me that my Marine Corps time doesn't count as
military service," Pistorius said. Faced with a threat of AWOL
charges, and worried that a spotless military record was about to be
stained, Pistorius headed last month to Camp McGrady in South
Carolina.
"The first thing they did was thank us for showing up," Pistorius
said. "They had 150 that were supposed to show up and about 75 did. Of
those 75 maybe only 40 or 50 are medically fit." [...]
When I first spoke to Pistorius, by telephone from the camp, he said
nobody had been given a physical. He told his Army commanders that he
had a permanent back injury from a car crash. They were unimpressed by
a letter from his chiropractor. His pre-deployment health assessment
lists him in this word: "Deployable."
Pistorius spoke with his captain.
"He said everybody here's going to Iraq," Pistorius said. "It's
unbelievable some of the guys they're bringing down there."
One man arrived with a hospital identification band still on his
wrist. He'd just had knee surgery. One 48-year-old from Alabama had a
hip replacement and fused vertebrae in his back.
"He showed them the documents, but they still made him come down to be
examined by their doctors," Pistorius said. Pistorius spoke of a man
called back from upstate New York.
"He had no teeth and he had arthritis in his leg," he said [...]
He said at one point an Army lawyer in South Carolina held out the
receiver so he could hear the person on the other end explain that his
big problem was showing up. So many people had either moved or ignored
their orders to report that the Army was loath to part with a
reasonably healthy one that had.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1188 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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15 Nov 2004 08:57:28 PM |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:14:18 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Little ***** draft dodger,
Where's my money *****?
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 07:13:45 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 19:20:50 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Ah, another NeoCon loser who talks the talk but can't walk the walk.
I'll put $100 on the line. If Alan Keyes breaks 40%, you get $100. If he
does not, I get $100 from you.
Ok, I'm game. Set up the deal. But I'll go you one better. You put up $100 and I'll put
up $500.
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:01:33 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting
*****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Yang, do you have any idea what you're always gripping about. True to the form that you
always exhibit, you tell the truth and nothing but the truth, but not the whole truth.
Because he was discharged well after his prior reserve obligation had
passed, the Army laid no further claim to him, until someone in St.
Louis ignored those zeroes and went hunting for a fresh body to fill a
manpower shortage that grows more painful with every Iraqi sunset.
"They basically told me that my Marine Corps time doesn't count as
military service," Pistorius said. Faced with a threat of AWOL
charges, and worried that a spotless military record was about to be
stained, Pistorius headed last month to Camp McGrady in South
Carolina.
"The first thing they did was thank us for showing up," Pistorius
said. "They had 150 that were supposed to show up and about 75 did. Of
those 75 maybe only 40 or 50 are medically fit." [...]
When I first spoke to Pistorius, by telephone from the camp, he said
nobody had been given a physical. He told his Army commanders that he
had a permanent back injury from a car crash. They were unimpressed by
a letter from his chiropractor. His pre-deployment health assessment
lists him in this word: "Deployable."
Pistorius spoke with his captain.
"He said everybody here's going to Iraq," Pistorius said. "It's
unbelievable some of the guys they're bringing down there."
One man arrived with a hospital identification band still on his
wrist. He'd just had knee surgery. One 48-year-old from Alabama had a
hip replacement and fused vertebrae in his back.
"He showed them the documents, but they still made him come down to be
examined by their doctors," Pistorius said. Pistorius spoke of a man
called back from upstate New York.
"He had no teeth and he had arthritis in his leg," he said [...]
He said at one point an Army lawyer in South Carolina held out the
receiver so he could hear the person on the other end explain that his
big problem was showing up. So many people had either moved or ignored
their orders to report that the Army was loath to part with a
reasonably healthy one that had.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1188 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1193 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Thelonius Q. Knobgobbler" |
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| Title: Re: Still Think You Won't Get Drafted To Go Die For AWOL's Lie? |
15 Nov 2004 10:41:39 PM |
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Hello Yang.
You have a stupid name, and you don't know how to use newsgroups.
Have a nice day.
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:43rip01bj477pdmu65vhiiptgnn8g8pg04@4ax.com...
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:14:18 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Little ***** draft dodger,
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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16 Nov 2004 03:00:07 AM |
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 04:41:39 GMT, "Thelonius Q. Knobgobbler"
<abuse@freespeechstore.com> wrote:
Hello Yang.
Hello little chickenhawk,
So why aren't NeoCons pussies like you in Iraq now? Your anal cyst
getting in the way? I rather see your ***** legs get blown off by a
round of RPG and have your *****-stained entrails strewn from here to
Tikrit than to see another GI killed by your lies. Why are you such a
traitor?
You have a stupid name, and you don't know how to use newsgroups.
Have a nice day.
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:43rip01bj477pdmu65vhiiptgnn8g8pg04@4ax.com...
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:14:18 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Little ***** draft dodger,
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1193 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: Still Think You Won't Get Drafted To Go Die For AWOL's Lie? |
16 Nov 2004 05:32:26 PM |
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<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote
Hello little chickenhawk,
So why aren't NeoCons pussies like you in Iraq now? Your anal cyst
getting in the way? I rather see your ***** legs get blown off by a
round of RPG and have your *****-stained entrails strewn from here to
Tikrit than to see another GI killed by your lies. Why are you such a
traitor?
Most military men and women voted for Bush... must be an army of
NeoCons...
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
The country was taken by force by white Christians. Unless you're
a white Christian, you're just a tenant here, or a freed former slave.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: Still Think You Won't Get Drafted To Go Die For AWOL's Lie? |
16 Nov 2004 10:16:12 PM |
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:32:26 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote:
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote
Hello little chickenhawk,
So why aren't NeoCons pussies like you in Iraq now? Your anal cyst
getting in the way? I rather see your ***** legs get blown off by a
round of RPG and have your *****-stained entrails strewn from here to
Tikrit than to see another GI killed by your lies. Why are you such a
traitor?
Most military men and women voted for Bush... must be an army of
NeoCons...
Ans that must make you a NeoCon *****...
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1202 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: Still Think You Won't Get Drafted To Go Die For AWOL's Lie? |
17 Nov 2004 04:39:34 AM |
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<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:d3klp05993s7ua238aaasngk9v9d4116lc@4ax.com...
Ans that must make you a NeoCon *****...
Typical NeoCon treachery. You're too cowardly to admit you're a
NeoCon and hide behind a tirade of typical anti-NeoCon hostility.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Still Think You Won't Get Drafted To Go Die For AWOL's Lie? |
16 Nov 2004 05:51:25 PM |
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 01:00:07 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting
*****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
There, he told you off, didn't he, yang. HAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAA.
So why aren't NeoCons pussies like you in Iraq now? Your anal cyst
getting in the way? I rather see your ***** legs get blown off by a
round of RPG and have your *****-stained entrails strewn from here to
Tikrit than to see another GI killed by your lies. Why are you such a
traitor?
Because you are too chicken to become a marine and defend your country. You little
coward.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Mothergodwacker" |
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| Title: Re: Still Think You Won't Get Drafted To Go Die For AWOL's Lie? |
16 Nov 2004 08:47:47 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> from the safety of his keyboard wants to know
news:3g4lp0tg1j3usfqbnn94ivd6059k761jjt@4ax.com...
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 01:00:07 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting
*****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
There, he told you off, didn't he, yang. HAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAA.
So why aren't NeoCons pussies like you in Iraq now? Your anal cyst
getting in the way? I rather see your ***** legs get blown off by a
round of RPG and have your *****-stained entrails strewn from here to
Tikrit than to see another GI killed by your lies. Why are you such a
traitor?
Because you are too chicken to become a marine and defend your country.
You little
coward.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
Yo dookie,
So go get your ***** over there and defend our country from native Iraqis who
have the unmitigated gall to actually RESIST our occupation. You'll have a
great time, and hopefully return in a box. What a fucking hypocrite you
are! You quote your bahbull to defend slaughtering non combatants? "which
children would jeezus kill?"
***** you, you little ***** licking, neocon piece of *****.
--
Mothergodwacker
CEO "Noah's Odor of Sanctity Kitty Litter"
100% recycled gideon bibles
"Absorbs up to 40 days & nights--No change required!"
http://forums.clickhalah.com/index.php
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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16 Nov 2004 10:15:25 PM |
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:47:47 GMT, "Mothergodwacker"
<laferme@attglobal.net> wrote:
Because you are too chicken to become a marine and defend your country.
You little
coward.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
Yo dookie,
So go get your ***** over there and defend our country from native Iraqis who
have the unmitigated gall to actually RESIST our occupation. You'll have a
great time, and hopefully return in a box. What a fucking hypocrite you
are! You quote your bahbull to defend slaughtering non combatants? "which
children would jeezus kill?"
***** you, you little ***** licking, neocon piece of *****.
He's also a *****.
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no. "
-Duke, explaining why it was patriotic for him to skip out on
Vietnam.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yang++alt.atheism+duke+hell+no&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=5vki609f0ieglkd26debhtqmqjab4cqkrr%404ax.com&rnum=1
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1202 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Mel" |
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| Title: Re: Still Think You Won't Get Drafted To Go Die For AWOL's Lie? |
24 Nov 2004 10:05:29 AM |
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:15:25 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
<c1klp09hm9iee15tttte2lvnfnvtfvo2an@4ax.com>:
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no. "
-Duke, explaining why it was patriotic for him to skip out on
Vietnam.
nobody should have gone to Vietnam. that would have been the most sensible
and patriotic move to make.
the draft dodgers were right.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
Cape Town news
http://adderleystreet.co.za/capetown/
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| User: "GP of ATJ" |
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| Title: Re: Still Think You Won't Get Drafted To Go Die For AWOL's Lie? |
24 Nov 2004 10:26:17 AM |
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"Mel" <mel@atj.fag.com> wrote in message
news:k958q0pohe5ian50ht8th6vsvl8413cdaq@4ax.com...
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:15:25 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
<c1klp09hm9iee15tttte2lvnfnvtfvo2an@4ax.com>:
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no. "
-Duke, explaining why it was patriotic for him to skip out on
Vietnam.
nobody should have gone to Vietnam. that would have been the most sensible
and patriotic move to make.
a lot you know fag boy.
the draft dodgers were right.
so you're saying you're a draft dodger then right fag boy?
Q: Why do niggers keep their fly's open?
A: In case they have to count to eleven.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfag.com
http://www.atjfag.com/
Fag Town news
http://adderleystreet.co.za/capetown/
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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25 Nov 2004 02:52:53 AM |
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:26:17 -0600, "GP of ATJ"
<GP_of_ATJ@NoFagBoysAllowed.Com> wrote:
Q: Why do niggers keep their fly's open?
A: In case they have to count to eleven.
Let me guess, your sister married a black guy and you can't ***** her
anymore.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1229 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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| Title: Re: Still Think You Won't Get Drafted To Go Die For AWOL's Lie? |
25 Nov 2004 12:03:18 PM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:26:17 -0600, "GP of ATJ"
<GP_of_ATJ@NoFagBoysAllowed.Com> wrote:
Q: Why do niggers keep their fly's open?
A: In case they have to count to eleven.
Let me guess, your sister married a black guy and you can't ***** her
anymore.
He's just pissed he can only count up to 10 1/2.
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Still Think You Won't Get Drafted To Go Die For AWOL's Lie? |
25 Nov 2004 08:08:07 PM |
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:03:18 +0000, Kevin Anthoney
<kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> said in alt.atheism:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:26:17 -0600, "GP of ATJ"
<GP_of_ATJ@NoFagBoysAllowed.Com> wrote:
Q: Why do niggers keep their fly's open?
A: In case they have to count to eleven.
Let me guess, your sister married a black guy and you can't ***** her
anymore.
He's just pissed he can only count up to 10 1/2.
And his grammar's lacking too. (Grammar, not Grandma, GP.)
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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24 Nov 2004 05:29:51 PM |
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"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:15:25 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
<c1klp09hm9iee15tttte2lvnfnvtfvo2an@4ax.com>:
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no. "
-Duke, explaining why it was patriotic for him to skip out on
Vietnam.
nobody should have gone to Vietnam. that would have been the most sensible
and patriotic move to make.
the draft dodgers were right.
The first American Special Forces in Vietnam were mainly preoccupied
with helping the primitive 'Montagnard' people, teaching them better
farming and building techniques, and training them to defend themselves
against the invading Communists. One more example of how the road
to hell is paved in good intentions.
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| User: "duke" |
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18 Nov 2004 04:42:14 AM |
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:47:47 GMT, "Mothergodwacker" <laferme@attglobal.net> wrote:
Yo dookie,
So go get your ***** over there and defend our country from native Iraqis who
have the unmitigated gall to actually RESIST our occupation.
Not to worry.
1. We're not occupying Iraq.
2. They will have free elections in 2 months.
3. The battle is with terrorist insurgents, not Iraqis.
You'll have a
great time, and hopefully return in a box. What a fucking hypocrite you
are! You quote your bahbull to defend slaughtering non combatants?
Actually, we are there to stop that.
"which children would jeezus kill?"
None.
***** you, you little ***** licking, neocon piece of *****.
Thank you. It does my heart good to derive such love from the likes of you.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Mothergodwacker" |
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18 Nov 2004 06:49:27 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:otuop0dpsbg1a0h41phtfk4fcpa6f0epv6@4ax.com...
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:47:47 GMT, "Mothergodwacker"
<laferme@attglobal.net> wrote:
Yo dookie,
So go get your ***** over there and defend our country from native Iraqis
who
have the unmitigated gall to actually RESIST our occupation.
Not to worry.
1. We're not occupying Iraq.
2. They will have free elections in 2 months.
3. The battle is with terrorist insurgents, not Iraqis.
Actually, we are there to stop that.
"which children would jeezus kill?"
None.
Well I don't see your sky fairy stopping the slaughter, dookie
Thank you. It does my heart good to derive such love from the likes of
you.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
What the ***** are you smoking dookie? Or are the 150,000 troops just over
there on vacation?
Razing Fallujah just for fun? If you believe in "free Iraqi elections",
with gun toting troops running them,
you are totally nuts. We have killed thousands of innocent Iraqis, and you
& your sky fairy are fine with that. And we are creating more "insurgents"
with every corpse we make.
Cram your bahbull up your well-traveled *****. And you are a typical xtian
canting hypocrite, oozing love, and loving murder.
"If patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels, than xtianity must be the
first".
Anonymous
--
Mothergodwacker
CEO "Noah's Odor of Sanctity Kitty Litter"
100% recycled gideon bibles
"Absorbs up to 40 days & nights--No change required!"
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Still Think You Won't Get Drafted To Go Die For AWOL's Lie? |
19 Nov 2004 05:20:15 PM |
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:49:27 GMT, "Mothergodwacker" <laferme@attglobal.net> wrote:
Yo dookie,
So go get your ***** over there and defend our country from native Iraqis
who
have the unmitigated gall to actually RESIST our occupation.
Not to worry.
1. We're not occupying Iraq.
2. They will have free elections in 2 months.
3. The battle is with terrorist insurgents, not Iraqis.
Actually, we are there to stop that.
"which children would jeezus kill?"
None.
Well I don't see your sky fairy stopping the slaughter, dookie
Jesus still doesn't kill any. Each and everyone died at the hands of another person.
What the ***** are you smoking dookie? Or are the 150,000 troops just over
there on vacation?
No, they are there to free the Iraqui people from terrorist insurgents.
Razing Fallujah just for fun? If you believe in "free Iraqi elections",
with gun toting troops running them,
We are shooting at the bad guys.
you are totally nuts. We have killed thousands of innocent Iraqis, and you
& your sky fairy are fine with that. And we are creating more "insurgents"
with every corpse we make.
No we haven't. Sure there as some, but that's the problem with war - innocents get killed
also.
Cram your bahbull up your well-traveled *****. And you are a typical xtian
canting hypocrite, oozing love, and loving murder.
Nah, that's strictly atheist activities.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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