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"Yang, AthD h.c" |
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31 Jan 2008 09:14:31 AM |
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Study: One MILLION Iraqis Dead Thanks to Bush's Invasion |
Turns out that the Lancet study undercounted the number of dead
Iraqis. eh Fred?
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gRd3Bi6CXI94ke9t9CgxqcZ1wPNw
LONDON (AFP) — More than one million Iraqis have died because of the
war in Iraq since the US-led invasion of the country in 2003,
according to a study published Wednesday.
A fifth of Iraqi households lost at least one family member between
March 2003 and August 2007 due to the conflict, said data compiled by
London-based Opinion Research Business (ORB) and its research partner
in Iraq, the Independent Institute for Administration and Civil
Society Studies (IIACSS).
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Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
"FRED STONE YOU GOT PWNED. "
-laleeloolelo <at> yahoo, 12/28/2007
"Face it, Fred, you've been pwn3d."
-Bill Baker, 12/21/2007
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| User: "Reality_Check©" |
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| Title: Re: Study: One MILLION Iraqis Dead Thanks to Bush's Invasion |
31 Jan 2008 12:36:55 PM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:3hk2q3p5bn7j4c2go3r40ajusden86hais@4ax.com...
Turns out that the Lancet study undercounted the number of dead
Iraqis. eh Fred?
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gRd3Bi6CXI94ke9t9CgxqcZ1wPNw
LONDON (AFP) - More than one million Iraqis have died because of the
war in Iraq since the US-led invasion of the country in 2003,
according to a study published Wednesday.
A fifth of Iraqi households lost at least one family member between
March 2003 and August 2007 due to the conflict, said data compiled by
London-based Opinion Research Business (ORB) and its research partner
in Iraq, the Independent Institute for Administration and Civil
Society Studies (IIACSS).
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Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
"FRED STONE YOU GOT PWNED. "
-laleeloolelo <at> yahoo, 12/28/2007
"Face it, Fred, you've been pwn3d."
-Bill Baker, 12/21/2007
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: Study: One MILLION Iraqis Dead Thanks to Bush's Invasion |
31 Jan 2008 11:17:18 AM |
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On Jan 31, 10:14 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Turns out that the Lancet study undercounted the number of dead
Iraqis. eh Fred?
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gRd3Bi6CXI94ke9t9CgxqcZ1wPNw
LONDON (AFP) -- More than one million Iraqis have died because of the
war in Iraq since the US-led invasion of the country in 2003,
according to a study published Wednesday.
A fifth of Iraqi households lost at least one family member between
March 2003 and August 2007 due to the conflict, said data compiled by
London-based Opinion Research Business (ORB) and its research partner
in Iraq, the Independent Institute for Administration and Civil
Society Studies (IIACSS).
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And all it has cost us is a trillion dollars, our security, and our
position as a world leader. But lets just adress the money:
To use a comparable WWII, in todays dollars cost 2.4 trillion.
None the less: 1 trillion. that is 1,000,000,000,000 or in other words
a million million. It has cost the US one million dollars for each
casualty inflicted.
The average years wages in Iraq before the war started was about
$700.00. Iraq has 26 million people. Thus we waged a war against a
populace that one average made 18.2 billion a year.
So a trillion(projected cost of the war) divided by 18.2 billion which
means 55 years of the combined salaries of the entire populace.
Somehow, as an accountant, I think we made a major financial mistake.
We should have just hired every Iraqi, at twice their normal salary
for 10 years, to do our bidding, and it would only have cost us only
36% of what we spent on killing them.
Hatter
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Study: One MILLION Iraqis Dead Thanks to Bush's Invasion |
31 Jan 2008 09:45:29 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:14:31 GMT, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Turns out that the Lancet study undercounted the number of dead
Iraqis. eh Fred?
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gRd3Bi6CXI94ke9t9CgxqcZ1wPNw
LONDON (AFP) — More than one million Iraqis have died because of the
war in Iraq since the US-led invasion of the country in 2003,
according to a study published Wednesday.
A fifth of Iraqi households lost at least one family member between
March 2003 and August 2007 due to the conflict, said data compiled by
London-based Opinion Research Business (ORB) and its research partner
in Iraq, the Independent Institute for Administration and Civil
Society Studies (IIACSS).
Some sources suggest that this Fred mileStone was passed in 2004, if
one includes the US sanctions on infant health-care that were imposed
by their fiat over the UN.
The genocidal "Oil for Bodies" fiasco.
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| User: "Bibon" |
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| Title: Re: Study: One MILLION Iraqis Dead Thanks to Bush's Invasion |
31 Jan 2008 11:36:56 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:15:29 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:14:31 GMT, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Turns out that the Lancet study undercounted the number of dead
Iraqis. eh Fred?
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gRd3Bi6CXI94ke9t9CgxqcZ1wPNw
LONDON (AFP) — More than one million Iraqis have died because of the
war in Iraq since the US-led invasion of the country in 2003,
according to a study published Wednesday.
A fifth of Iraqi households lost at least one family member between
March 2003 and August 2007 due to the conflict, said data compiled by
London-based Opinion Research Business (ORB) and its research partner
in Iraq, the Independent Institute for Administration and Civil
Society Studies (IIACSS).
Some sources suggest that this Fred mileStone was passed in 2004, if
one includes the US sanctions on infant health-care that were imposed
by their fiat over the UN.
The genocidal "Oil for Bodies" fiasco.
And some sources say you ***** wits ignore what's going on in the rest
of the world just so you can focus all your hatred on the US.
While I'm getting you straightened out I direct your attention to the
following, BOY!
http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/wars/articles/20071223.aspx
Wars Update Article Index : Current 2005 - 2006
Hidden Headlines Revealed
December 23, 2007: While the headlines concentrate on peace breaking
out in Iraq, that's but part of a worldwide trend for the last few
years. Violence has also diminished, or disappeared completely, in
places like Nepal, Chechnya. Congo, Indonesia and Burundi. This
continues a trend that began when the Cold War ended, and the Soviet
Union no longer subsidized terrorist and rebel groups everywhere. The
current wars are basically uprisings against police states or feudal
societies, which are seen as out-of-step with the modern world. Many
are led by radicals preaching failed dogmas (Islamic conservatism,
Maoism, Atheism), that still resonate among people who don't know
about the dismal track records of these movements.
The War on Terror has become the War Against Islamic Radicalism. This
religious radicalism has always been around, for Islam was born as an
aggressive movement, that used violence and terror to expand. Past
periods of conquest are regarded fondly by Moslems. The current
enthusiasm for violence in the name of God has been building for over
half a century. Historically, periods of Islamic radicalism flared up
periodically in response to corrupt governments, as a vain attempt to
impose a religious solution on some social or political problem. The
current violence is international because of the availability of
planet wide mass media (which needs a constant supply of headlines),
and the fact that the Islamic world is awash in tyranny and economic
backwardness. Islamic radicalism itself is incapable of mustering much
military power, and the movement largely relies on terrorism to gain
attention. Most of the victims are fellow Moslems, which is why the
radicals eventually become so unpopular among their own people that
they run out of new recruits and fade away. This is what is happening
now. The American invasion of Iraq was a clever exploitation of this,
forcing the Islamic radicals to fight in Iraq, where they killed many
Moslems, especially women and children, thus causing the Islamic
radicals to lose their popularity among Moslems.
Normally, the West does not get involved in these Islamic religious
wars, unless attacked in a major way. Moreover, modern sensibilities
have made that more difficult. For example, fighting back is
considered, by Moslems, as culturally insensitive ("war on Islam"),
and some of the Western media have picked up on this bizarre
interpretation of reality. However, some historians like to point
out, for example, that the medieval Crusades were a series of wars
fought in response to Islamic violence against Christians, not the
opening act of aggression against Islam that continue to the present.
Thus, the current war on terror is, indeed, in the tradition of the
Crusades. And there are many other "Crusades" brewing around the
world, in the many places where aggressive Islamic militants are
making unprovoked war on their Christian neighbors. Political
Correctness among academics and journalists causes pundits to try and
turn this reality inside out. But a close look at the violence in
Africa, Asia and the Middle East shows a definite pattern of Islamic
radicals persecuting those who do not agree with them, not the other
way around.
While Islamic terrorism grabs most of the headlines, it is not the
cause of many casualties, at least not compared to more traditional
wars. The vast majority of the military related violence and deaths in
the world comes from many little wars that get little media attention
outside their region. Actually some of them are not so little. While
causalities from terrorism are relatively few (usually 5,000-10,000
dead a year worldwide), the dead and wounded from all the other wars
actually comprise about 95 percent of all the casualties. The Islamic
terrorism looms larger because the terrorists threaten attacks
everywhere, putting a much larger population in harms way, and unhappy
with that.
Current wars are listed in alphabetical orders. Text underneath
briefly describes current status. Click on country name for more
details.
AFGHANISTAN
The Taliban attempt at a comeback made a lot of noise, but
accomplished little. A sharp increase in Taliban activity in 2006
brought forth a sharp response from government and NATO forces. This
years' Spring Offensive was a flop. Independent minded tribes,
warlords and drug gangs remain a greater threat to peace, prosperity
and true national unity, than the Taliban (which is based across the
border in Pakistan). The Pakistani government has gone to war against
the pro-Taliban tribes and various Islamic terrorist organizations.
That has reduced the flow of gunmen from Pakistan into Afghanistan.
But the violence inside Afghanistan is growing, largely because of the
growth of the drug gangs, and their support for tribes (especially
pro-Taliban ones) that oppose the national government.
ALGERIA
A few hundred Islamic rebels persist, despite the hostility of most
Algerians. The local Islamic terrorists have now officially become a
part of al Qaeda, and have turned to suicide bombing. This kills a lot
of civilians, and increases the hatred the population already feels
towards the Islamic radicals. The level of terrorist violence is still
much lower than it was a few years ago. The population is not happy,
and a general uprising remains a threat because of dissatisfaction
with the old revolutionaries that refuse to honor election results,
share power or govern effectively.
BALKANS
The Greater Albania Movement is driven by part time Albanian
nationalists, full time gangsters, political opportunists, Kosovo
separatists and a growing number of Islamic radicals. West Europeans
inclined to let Kosovo become independent, Serbia disagrees, and Big
Brother Russia offers all manner of support. Bosnia continues to
attract Islamic terrorists, despite the local government becoming
increasingly hostile to these foreign troublemakers and alien Islamic
conservatism.
CENTRAL ASIA
Dictators brew rebellion by suppressing democrats and Islamic
radicals. But not much violence, just a lot of potential.
CHAD
Rebel movements grew and united, aided by Sudanese backed Arab
militias from across the border. The government thought they had a
peace deal, but it quickly fell apart. European peacekeepers are on
the way, but are having problems obtaining sufficient helicopters and
air transport. Much of the unrest is caused by refugees from tribal
battles in Sudan, who bring their feuds with them.
CHINA
The confrontation with Taiwan continues, as do hostilities with
neighbors, separatists, dissenters and ancient enemies. China speeds
up modernization of its armed forces, but in ways Westerners have a
difficult time understanding. China has developed a major Cyber War
capability, and has been using it for over a year. The targets of
this, in Western Europe and the U.S., have figured this out, and a new
crises is born. China has become major secret supplier of cheap
weapons to bad guys everywhere.
COLOMBIA
After over three decades, leftist rebels losing support, recruits and
territory. Leftist demagogue Hugo Chavez of Venezuela supports the
Colombian rebels, and is providing sanctuary for them and their
cocaine producing allies. The drug gangs and leftist rebels have
merged in many parts of the country, and war in increasingly about
money, not ideology. The leftist rebels are slowly losing, but all
that drug money will keep them in the game for quite a while.
CONGO
Multiple tribal and political militias, plus an increasing number of
bandits, continue to roam the countryside. Peacekeepers and army
action have reduced the size of these violent groups, but not
eliminated them. However, there are fewer places that the bad guys
can roam freely. Attempts to merge rebels into army has not worked
well. The last major problem is a Tutsi militia in the east, which
will not disarm until the government destroys Hutu militias built
around Hutu mass murderers who fled neighboring Rwanda in the 1990s.
UN peacekeepers criticized for not fighting more, but that's not their
job. Congolese army not up to it yet either, so there is simmers.
ETHIOPIA
Border dispute with Eritrea festers, and invasion of Somalia bogs down
in local clan feuds. Internally, rebellious Moslem groups are a
constant threat, especially with more active support from Eritrea.
Ogaden province, right on the Somali border, and full of ethnic
Somalis, has rebelled again. Not a big deal, but one more hot spot
that burns up troops and scarce cash.
HAITI
Peacekeepers keep a lid on two century old violence between the rich
and the poor, and the criminal and political gangs. Peacekeepers have
busted up many of the gangs, and sharply lowered the crime rate.
INDIA-PAKISTAN
Kashmir is but one of many rebellions that beset the region. India
also has tribal and Islamic rebel in the northeast, and Maoist
(communist) ones in between. Pakistan has Islamic radicals in the
north, and rebellious Pushtun and Baluchi tribes along the Afghan
border. The Taliban had become stronger in Pakistan, where it
originated, than in Afghanistan. But that changed this year when the
tensions triggered a major army effort against the Pushtun tribes and
their terrorist allies. India and Pakistan both have nukes, making
escalation a potential catastrophe. As a result, recent peace talks
have lowered the possibility of war, but both sides continue an arms
race. Pakistani Islamic radical groups continue to support terrorism
in India and Afghanistan, and have joined a coalition of other groups
to overthrow the military dictatorship controlling the Pakistani
government. Pakistan has always been a mess, and does not appear to be
getting better.
INDONESIA
Basically at peace, but separatism, pirates, Islamic terrorists and
government corruption create a volatile situation that could get hot
real fast. Islamic terrorists have been greatly diminished, as Islamic
moderates flex their traditional popularity. Aceh, however, is
becoming a stronghold for Islamic conservatives. Newly independent
East Timor has been unable to govern itself.
IRAN
The basic problem is that an Islamic conservative minority has veto
power over the reformist majority. The supply of peaceful solutions is
drying up. After that comes another revolution. Half the population
consists of ethnic minorities (mainly Turks and Arabs), and these
groups are getting more restive and violent. Meanwhile, the Islamic
conservatives are determined to support terrorism overseas and build
nuclear weapons at home, rather than improving the economy and
improving living standards. Unrest and terrorist violence becoming
more common, and government seeks foreign adventures to distract an
unhappy population.
IRAQ
The "surge offensive" earlier in the year was a success, and violence
plunged by over 60 percent. More areas of the country are now at peace
(as some have been since 2003.) The Sunni Arab minority tries to make
peace with the majority Kurds and Shia Arabs, which now possible
because the Sunni Arab Islamic radicals are seen as on the way out.
Some Sunni Arabs, who had fled the country, are returning, but nearly
half the Sunni Arabs are already gone. The new threat is Shia militias
seeking to acquire more power with firepower, as well as votes.
Corruption and inept government continues to be a major problem.
ISRAEL
Palestinians are trying to make some kind of peace, in order to
reverse the economic disaster they brought on themselves because of
their seven year terror campaign against Israel. Palestinians are
tired of terrorism, even though they still support it. The Palestinian
economy has collapsed, as foreign charity dried up because the people
elected the Hamas (Islamic terrorists) party to power. Civil war
between radical Hamas and corrupt Palestinian old guard (Fatah) has
split Palestinians. Iran backed Islamic radicals in Lebanon have
revived fears of civil war up there. Hizbollah threatens to drag
Lebanon into another civil war, or another war with Israel.
Meanwhile, Israeli economy booms as Israel continues its effective
counter-terrorism campaign.
IVORY COAST
An uneasy truce continues. The north and the south finally make a deal
over money, religion and power. All this is watched over by
peacekeepers set up between the factions.
KOREA
Growing unrest, corruption and privation threaten the iron control the
North Korean government has long exercised. North Korea continues to
destroy its economy, in order to maintain armed forces capable of
invading South Korea and keeping its own population in bondage.
Continued famine in the north has prompted China to send more and more
troops to the border to keep hungry North Koreas out. North Korean
military declines in power, as lack of money for maintenance or
training cause continuing rot. Government split into reform and
conservative factions, making change difficult to achieve. South
Koreans are growing tired of the madness that still reigns in the
north.
KURDISH WAR
Turkish aircraft and troops now operating on the Iraqi side of the
border, seeking to either destroy Kurdish separatists, or push their
bases further into Iraq. Kurds continue 5,000 year struggle to form
their own country. Iran is cracking down on its Kurds, while Turkey
threatens even more action if the Iraqi Kurdish government doesn't get
serious about the Kurdish separatists who operate inside Turkey, from
bases in Iraq. Iraqi Kurds believe they will get control of some Iraqi
oil fields, providing cash for all manner of opportunities. But that
is opposed by Iraqi Arabs and other minorities.
MEXICO
The U.S. border is like a war zone. The passing of one-party rule, the
growth of drug gangs, and increasing corruption in the security
forces, has triggered growing violence and unrest. The government has
gone to war with the drug gangs, and the outcome is still in doubt.
NEPAL
Radical communist rebels still struggle to overthrow a popular
monarchy, but now do it in an alliance with political parties. This
has decreased Maoist violence, and greatly reduced the powers of the
monarchy, and triggered uprising by other unhappy groups (more radical
Maoists, hill tribes, ethnic Indians). Maoists still pushing for an
immediate end to the monarchy, and making threats about it. Maoists
apparently believe they would lose a vote over the monarchy.
NIGERIA
Too many tribes, not enough oil money and too much corruption creates
growing violence. The tribes in the oil producing region (the Niger
Delta) are getting organized, and a lot more violent. The northern
Moslems want more control over the federal government (and the oil
money). Local rebels threaten loss of most oil revenue, which is
getting the governments attention.
POTENTIAL HOT SPOTS
Various places where the local situation is warming up and might turn
into a war. Zimbabwe and Yemen are hot right now.
PHILIPPINES
Islamic minority in the south wants its own country, and the expulsion
of non-Moslems. Communist rebels in the north fight for social justice
and a dictatorship. Both of these movements are losing and the Moslems
are negotiating a peace deal that inches closer to a done deal. The
communists are taking a beating, and not willing to talk seriously
yet.
RUSSIA
Rebuilding and reforming the decrepit Soviet era armed forces
continues. The war against gangsters and Islamic radicals in Chechnya
has been won, but the Islamic radicals continue to operate in other
parts of the Caucasus. Russia returns to police state ways, and
traditional threatening attitude towards neighbors.
RWANDA & BURUNDI
War between better organized and more aggressive Tutsis and more
numerous Hutu tribes. It's been going on for centuries, but the latest
installment has finally ended, with the last Hutu group in Burundi
giving up, then changing its mind.
SOMALIA
A failed state that defies every attempt at nation building. It was
never a country, but a collection of clans and tribes that fight each
other constantly over economic issues (land and water). The new
"transitional" government, was nearly wiped out by an "Islamic
Courts" movement (which attempted to put the entire country under the
rule of Islamic clergy and Islamic law). When Islamic Courts
threatened to expand into Ethiopia, Ethiopia invaded and wiped out the
Islamic Courts. The Islamic radicals have turned to terrorism, and
Eritrea continues to provide support. The country remains an economic
and political mess, a black hole on the map.
SRI LANKA
Tamil minority (19th century economic migrants from southern India)
battles to partition the island. A long ceasefire ends and fighting
has resumed. Tamils (the LTTE) are losing this time. LTTE will not go
quietly, even though they lose a little more each month.
SUDAN
Moslems in the north try to suppress separatist tendencies among
Christians in the south and Moslem rebels in the east and west. All
this is complicated by development of oil fields in the south, and
Moslem government attempts to drive Christians from the oil region.
Battles over land in the west pit Arab herders against black Sudanese
farmers. Both sides are Moslem, but the government is backing the
Arabs. The government uses Arab nationalism and economic ties with
Russia and China to defy the world and get away with driving non-Arab
tribes from Darfur. The government believes time is on its side, and
that the West will never trying anything bold and effective to halt
the violence.
THAILAND
Malay Moslems in the south are three percent of the population, and
different. Most Thais, are ethnic Thais and Buddhist. In the south,
however, Islamic radicalism has arrived, along with an armed effort to
create a separate Islamic state in the three southern provinces.
Islamic terrorists grew more powerful month by month for several
years, and refuse to negotiate. But new military dictatorship took a
softer line towards the south, and that appears to be hurting the
terrorists. But the generals are about to be voted out of power, and
the new government may go back to dealing with the Islamic terrorists
using the traditional Thai approach (much violence).
UGANDA
Religion and tribalism combine to create a persistent rebellion in the
north, which was aided by Sudan. But now the northern rebels have been
worn down, and the unrest is just about done with. Final peace deal
with LRA rebels being negotiated. It's taking longer than expected.
WAR ON TERROR
International terrorism has created a international backlash and a war
unlike any other. The only terrorist victories are in the media. On
the ground, the terrorists are losing ground everywhere. Their last
refuges are chaotic, or cynical, places like Iran, Syria, Lebanon,
Somalia, Gaza, the Sahel, a few of the Philippine islands, and tribal
regions of Pakistan. They are being chased out of Iraq, Somalia and
the Philippines, while Pakistan is getting increasingly tough with
terrorists and pro-terrorist groups. Iran continues to support
terrorism in the face of much local disapproval. Syria and Lebanon are
in chaos because of Iranian subsidized factions. Gaza went the same
way. Islamic radicals are a traditional reaction to tyranny in their
region, and inability of local despots to rule effectively. Economic
and diplomatic ties with the West are interpreted as support, leading
to attacks on Western targets that created a devastating
counterattack. The result of this in the Moslem world has been
dramatic, finally forcing leaders and people to confront their
self-inflicted problems. Al Qaeda is as self-destructive as its many
predecessors. For example, an al Qaeda suicide bomber recently blew
himself up in a crowded mosque, killing 48 worshippers. This,
naturally, turns Moslems against al Qaeda in a big way. But the
terrorists justify such dumb attacks because their doctrine holds that
Moslems who don't agree with them, are not really Moslems. You can
imagine how well that goes over with most Moslems. You can, but al
Qaeda can't, and that is what guarantees their demise.
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NOW ***** AND SHUT UP LOSER.
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