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Subject: Jesus Could Have Walked on Ice, Scientist Says |
http://www.hotspotsz.com Hot Spots - Paranormal Phenomena
Sara Goudarzi
LiveScience Staff Writer
LiveScience.com
Rare conditions could have conspired to create hard-to-see ice on the
Sea of Galilee that a person could have walked on back when Jesus is
said to have walked on water, a scientist said today.
The study, which examines a combination of favorable water and
environmental conditions, proposes that Jesus could have walked on an
isolated patch of floating ice on what is now known as Lake Kinneret
in northern
Israel.
Looking at temperature records of the Mediterranean Sea surface and
using analytical ice and statistical models, scientists considered a
small section of the cold freshwater surface of the lake. The area
studied, about 10,000 square feet, was near salty springs that empty
into it.
The results suggest temperatures dropped to 25 degrees Fahrenheit (-4
degrees Celsius) during one of the two cold periods 2,500 -1,500
years
ago for up to two days, the same decades during which Jesus lived.
With such conditions, a floating patch of ice could develop above the
plumes resulting from the salty springs along the lake's western shore
in Tabgha. Tabgha is the town where many archeological findings
related to Jesus have been found.
"We simply explain that unique freezing processes probably happened in
that region only a handful of times during the last 12,000 years,"
said Doron Nof, a Florida State University Professor of Oceanography.
"We leave to others the question of whether or not our research
explains the biblical account."
Nof figures that in the last 120 centuries, the odds of such
conditions on the low latitude Lake Kinneret are most likely
1-in-1,000. But during the time period when Jesus lived, such "spring
ice" may have formed once every 30 to 60 years.
Such floating ice in the unfrozen waters of the lake would be hard to
spot, especially if rain had smoothed its surface.
"In today's climate, the chance of springs ice forming in northern
Israel is effectively zero, or about once in more than 10,000 years,"
Nof said.
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06 Apr 2006 11:36:20 AM |
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<JhemHaddar@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144324130.014256.217680@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.hotspotsz.com Hot Spots - Paranormal Phenomena
Sara Goudarzi
LiveScience Staff Writer
LiveScience.com
Rare conditions could have conspired to create hard-to-see ice on the
Sea of Galilee that a person could have walked on back when Jesus is
said to have walked on water, a scientist said today.
The study, which examines a combination of favorable water and
environmental conditions, proposes that Jesus could have walked on an
isolated patch of floating ice on what is now known as Lake Kinneret
in northern
Israel.
Looking at temperature records of the Mediterranean Sea surface and
using analytical ice and statistical models, scientists considered a
small section of the cold freshwater surface of the lake. The area
studied, about 10,000 square feet, was near salty springs that empty
into it.
The results suggest temperatures dropped to 25 degrees Fahrenheit (-4
degrees Celsius) during one of the two cold periods 2,500 -1,500
years
ago for up to two days, the same decades during which Jesus lived.
With such conditions, a floating patch of ice could develop above the
plumes resulting from the salty springs along the lake's western shore
in Tabgha. Tabgha is the town where many archeological findings
related to Jesus have been found.
"We simply explain that unique freezing processes probably happened in
that region only a handful of times during the last 12,000 years,"
said Doron Nof, a Florida State University Professor of Oceanography.
"We leave to others the question of whether or not our research
explains the biblical account."
Nof figures that in the last 120 centuries, the odds of such
conditions on the low latitude Lake Kinneret are most likely
1-in-1,000. But during the time period when Jesus lived, such "spring
ice" may have formed once every 30 to 60 years.
Such floating ice in the unfrozen waters of the lake would be hard to
spot, especially if rain had smoothed its surface.
"In today's climate, the chance of springs ice forming in northern
Israel is effectively zero, or about once in more than 10,000 years,"
Nof said.
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| User: "Jane Payne" |
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| Title: Re: Subject: Jabs Could Have Walked on Ice, Scientist Says cross-posting TROLL ALERT |
06 Apr 2006 11:50:41 AM |
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"Mr. Bla" <bla@bla.com> wrote in message
news:pqOdnRSkIOv93qjZRVn-sg@comcast.com...
"In today's climate, the chance of springs ice forming in northern
Israel is effectively zero, or about once in more than 10,000 years,"
Nof said.
Do you keep fish and a ponds Mr Bla? If so, we would love to hear about
them. If not, then please remove the
"rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this cross-posted nym-shifting troll's
thread. Our fish are nonsectarian. :-)
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
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| User: "Precision" |
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06 Apr 2006 08:55:34 PM |
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"Jane Payne" <jane@theplace.net> wrote in message
news:1144342244.616761@hosting.ispresults.com...
"Mr. Bla" <bla@bla.com> wrote in message
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"In today's climate, the chance of springs ice forming in northern
Israel is effectively zero, or about once in more than 10,000 years,"
Nof said.
Do you keep fish and a ponds Mr Bla? If so, we would love to hear about
them. If not, then please remove the
"rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this cross-posted nym-shifting troll's
thread. Our fish are nonsectarian. :-)
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?0G/Wb1o=?=" |
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06 Apr 2006 10:08:19 PM |
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"Precision" <precision@Usenet.com> wrote in message
news:1144374726_1559@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
"Jane Payne" <jane@theplace.net> wrote in message
news:1144342244.616761@hosting.ispresults.com...
"Mr. Bla" <bla@bla.com> wrote in message
news:pqOdnRSkIOv93qjZRVn-sg@comcast.com...
"In today's climate, the chance of springs ice forming in northern
Israel is effectively zero, or about once in more than 10,000 years,"
Nof said.
Do you keep fish and a ponds Mr Bla? If so, we would love to hear about
them. If not, then please remove the
"rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this cross-posted nym-shifting
troll's
thread. Our fish are nonsectarian. :-)
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>
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It appears the true identity of "Mr. Bla" as a nym-shifting sock puppet is
now clear.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don't tell us he's really brother jabbers who nym-shifts with every other
post............. :-D
Who would have thought???!?!?!?
--
Do...........
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide was approved by Jehovah)
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http://www.cftf.com/1914/
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| User: "Mindfucked" |
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07 Apr 2006 03:25:40 AM |
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"ÐoÖoZ" <watch@thistime.net> wrote in message
news:4435e672$0$20104$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com...
"In today's climate, the chance of springs ice forming in northern
Israel is effectively zero, or about once in more than 10,000 years,"
Nof said.
Do you keep fish and a ponds Mr Bla? If so, we would love to hear about
them. If not, then please remove the
"rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this cross-posted nym-shifting
troll's
thread. Our fish are nonsectarian. :-)
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>
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It appears the true identity of "Mr. Bla" as a nym-shifting sock puppet
is now clear.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don't tell us he's really brother jabbers who nym-shifts with every other
post............. :-D
So do you!
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| User: "R. Nunnely" |
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07 Apr 2006 12:13:23 PM |
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"Mindfucked" aka FEZZ <mindfuck@bulldoghome.com> wrote in message
news:e157ll$1bo$1@emma.aioe.org...
"ÐoÖoZ" <watch@thistime.net> wrote in message
news:4435e672$0$20104$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com...
Don't tell us he's really brother jabbers who nym-shifts with every other
post............. :-D
So do you!
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So do you *FEZZ*.......... no one can beat your brother JABRIOL for
nym-shifting as only Google allows such abuse as any reasoning and thinking
Usenetter knows. ;-)
If it's @mailinator or @gmail and posted through Google - it's Jabriol from
ARJ-W. What he's doing is called "theocratic Warfare Strategy" which allows
all forms of dishonesty, stalking and threatening women, identity theft,
impersonating living persons and lying.
--
Nu.... in Watchtowerland....
Aid to Bible Understanding, 1971 ed., p. 1061
"While malicious lying is definitely condemned in
the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under
obligation to divulge truthful information to people
who are not entitled to it." *WHO DECIDES?*
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07 Apr 2006 01:35:16 PM |
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Look who is talking? Carol abuses Shared secrets, zapto, cheap56 and
nym shift every 5 minutes..
R=2E Nunnely wrote:
"Mindfucked" aka FEZZ <mindfuck@bulldoghome.com> wrote in message
news:e157ll$1bo$1@emma.aioe.org...
"=D0o=D6oZ" <watch@thistime.net> wrote in message
news:4435e672$0$20104$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com...
Don't tell us he's really brother jabbers who nym-shifts with every ot=
her
post............. :-D
So do you!
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
So do you *FEZZ*.......... no one can beat your brother JABRIOL for
nym-shifting as only Google allows such abuse as any reasoning and thinki=
ng
Usenetter knows. ;-)
If it's @mailinator or @gmail and posted through Google - it's Jabriol fr=
om
ARJ-W. What he's doing is called "theocratic Warfare Strategy" which all=
ows
all forms of dishonesty, stalking and threatening women, identity theft,
impersonating living persons and lying.
--
Nu.... in Watchtowerland....
Aid to Bible Understanding, 1971 ed., p. 1061
"While malicious lying is definitely condemned in
the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under
obligation to divulge truthful information to people
who are not entitled to it." *WHO DECIDES?*
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| User: "Del Viking" |
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07 Apr 2006 03:01:15 PM |
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"KoiKrusher" aka JABRIOL aka Antonio<Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144434916.653260.53110@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
Look who is talking? Carol abuses Shared secrets, zapto, cheap56 and
nym shift every 5 minutes..
Before you reply to this thread, do you keep fish and a ponds? If so, we
would love to hear about them. If not, then please remove the "rec.ponds"
NG from your replies to this cross-posted thread. Our fish are
nonsectarian. :-)
Thank You
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
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| User: "Rampart" |
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07 Apr 2006 04:30:07 AM |
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Mindfucked wrote:
"=D0o=D6oZ" <watch@thistime.net> wrote in message
It appears the true identity of "Mr. Bla" as a nym-shifting sock puppet
is now clear.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don't tell us he's really brother jabbers who nym-shifts with every oth=
er
post............. :-D
So do you!
When CArol start posting to people about removing rec,ponds from NG
headers, using her sock puppets, that is an indicator that rec.ponds
started to go down hill, just like she has cause arjw to go down hill.
So guys when you need to stop a spammer go to AFN and get a spam server
like Carol and have fun.
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| User: "Rampart" |
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07 Apr 2006 04:27:05 AM |
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And of course Carol never NYM shifts....
http://tinyurl.com/99azt
http://tinyurl.com/87ow4
http://tinyurl.com/d6t5m
http://tinyurl.com/aheek
http://tinyurl.com/ck97r
http://tinyurl.com/cm3dp
http://tinyurl.com/8bscg
http://tinyurl.com/7epdg
http://tinyurl.com/bya3z
=D0o=D6oZ wrote:
"Precision" <precision@Usenet.com> wrote in message
news:1144374726_1559@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
"Jane Payne" <jane@theplace.net> wrote in message
news:1144342244.616761@hosting.ispresults.com...
"Mr. Bla" <bla@bla.com> wrote in message
news:pqOdnRSkIOv93qjZRVn-sg@comcast.com...
"In today's climate, the chance of springs ice forming in northern
Israel is effectively zero, or about once in more than 10,000 years,"
Nof said.
Do you keep fish and a ponds Mr Bla? If so, we would love to hear abo=
ut
them. If not, then please remove the
"rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this cross-posted nym-shifting
troll's
thread. Our fish are nonsectarian. :-)
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>
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It appears the true identity of "Mr. Bla" as a nym-shifting sock puppet=
is
now clear.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don't tell us he's really brother jabbers who nym-shifts with every other
post............. :-D
Who would have thought???!?!?!?
--
Do...........
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide was approved by Jehovah)
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
http://www.cftf.com/1914/
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07 Apr 2006 04:25:00 AM |
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Let me guess, after checking on rec.ponds there is no Jane, therefore
we see it is yet another Carolyn Adamo sock puppet using Cheap56 to
spam yet again. and she is trying now to controlMr. Bla
Carol just doesn't learn, nor does she wants to.. Dump in ARJW, and we
will Dump in rec.ponds
Jane Payne wrote:
Do you keep fish and a ponds Mr Bla? If so, we would love to hear about
them. If not, then please remove the
"rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this cross-posted nym-shifting troll's
thread. Our fish are nonsectarian. :-)
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>
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Get FREE newsgroup access from http://www.cheap56k.com
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| User: "Mr. Bla" |
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06 Apr 2006 11:39:11 AM |
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<JhemHaddar@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144324130.014256.217680@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.hotspotsz.com Hot Spots - Paranormal Phenomena
Sara Goudarzi
LiveScience Staff Writer
LiveScience.com
Rare conditions could have conspired to create hard-to-see ice on the
Sea of Galilee that a person could have walked on back when Jesus is
said to have walked on water, a scientist said today.
The study, which examines a combination of favorable water and
environmental conditions, proposes that Jesus could have walked on an
isolated patch of floating ice on what is now known as Lake Kinneret
in northern
Israel.
Looking at temperature records of the Mediterranean Sea surface and
using analytical ice and statistical models, scientists considered a
small section of the cold freshwater surface of the lake. The area
studied, about 10,000 square feet, was near salty springs that empty
into it.
The results suggest temperatures dropped to 25 degrees Fahrenheit (-4
degrees Celsius) during one of the two cold periods 2,500 -1,500
years
ago for up to two days, the same decades during which Jesus lived.
With such conditions, a floating patch of ice could develop above the
plumes resulting from the salty springs along the lake's western shore
in Tabgha. Tabgha is the town where many archeological findings
related to Jesus have been found.
"We simply explain that unique freezing processes probably happened in
that region only a handful of times during the last 12,000 years,"
said Doron Nof, a Florida State University Professor of Oceanography.
"We leave to others the question of whether or not our research
explains the biblical account."
Nof figures that in the last 120 centuries, the odds of such
conditions on the low latitude Lake Kinneret are most likely
1-in-1,000. But during the time period when Jesus lived, such "spring
ice" may have formed once every 30 to 60 years.
Such floating ice in the unfrozen waters of the lake would be hard to
spot, especially if rain had smoothed its surface.
"In today's climate, the chance of springs ice forming in northern
Israel is effectively zero, or about once in more than 10,000 years,"
Nof said.
Wow, it took climatologists, and great scientific minds to come up with the
idea of "it could have been frozen" brilliant! And this ice could have
existed in the middle of the storm, and when Peter got out of the boat he
would have just missed the ice by a foot or two.
bla
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?0G/Wb1o=?=" |
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06 Apr 2006 11:54:00 AM |
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"Mr. Bla" <bla@bla.com> wrote in message
news:rIOdnaJAuJWV2ajZRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
bla
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Please watch where your messages are going. Remove the NGs that are
irrelevant.
Thanks
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| User: "Rampart" |
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06 Apr 2006 12:03:40 PM |
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=D0o=D6oZ wrote:
"Mr. Bla" <bla@bla.com> wrote in message
news:rIOdnaJAuJWV2ajZRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
bla
=3D
Please watch where your messages are going. Remove the NGs that are
irrelevant.
Thanks
Trying to control Bla, now Carol?
what happen to your kill files?
Maybe when you stop Dumping in ARJW. rec.ponds will return to normal.
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?0G/Wb1o=?=" |
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06 Apr 2006 12:59:35 PM |
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"Rampart" <Xabriol@gmail.com> JABRIOL/Antonio wrote in message
news:1144343019.962209.207040@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
Trying to control Bla, now Carol?
what happen to your kill files?
Maybe when you stop Dumping in ARJW. rec.ponds will return to normal.
~~~~~~
Asking someone to be courteous is not control. What happened to using your
daughter as an excuse to harass, troll and cross-post to irreverent NGs and
net-stalk me? If you want to be the moderator of ARJ-W then have it
moderated. Meanwhile I am *on-topic* in ARJ-W and have been for the last 10
years.
--
Do...........
"Where two or three are gathered together in MY name, I am in their midst:"
[Matt 18:20] No Watchtower Society needed.
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06 Apr 2006 08:01:38 PM |
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=D0o=D6oZ wrote:
Meanwhile I am *on-topic* in ARJ-W and have been for the last 10
years.
yeah and there are wepons of mass destruction in Iraq.
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06 Apr 2006 11:43:54 AM |
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On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:39:11 -0400, "Mr. Bla" <bla@bla.com> wrote:
<JhemHaddar@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144324130.014256.217680@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.hotspotsz.com Hot Spots - Paranormal Phenomena
Sara Goudarzi
LiveScience Staff Writer
LiveScience.com
Rare conditions could have conspired to create hard-to-see ice on the
Sea of Galilee that a person could have walked on back when Jesus is
said to have walked on water, a scientist said today.
The study, which examines a combination of favorable water and
environmental conditions, proposes that Jesus could have walked on an
isolated patch of floating ice on what is now known as Lake Kinneret
in northern
Israel.
Looking at temperature records of the Mediterranean Sea surface and
using analytical ice and statistical models, scientists considered a
small section of the cold freshwater surface of the lake. The area
studied, about 10,000 square feet, was near salty springs that empty
into it.
The results suggest temperatures dropped to 25 degrees Fahrenheit (-4
degrees Celsius) during one of the two cold periods 2,500 -1,500
years
ago for up to two days, the same decades during which Jesus lived.
With such conditions, a floating patch of ice could develop above the
plumes resulting from the salty springs along the lake's western shore
in Tabgha. Tabgha is the town where many archeological findings
related to Jesus have been found.
"We simply explain that unique freezing processes probably happened in
that region only a handful of times during the last 12,000 years,"
said Doron Nof, a Florida State University Professor of Oceanography.
"We leave to others the question of whether or not our research
explains the biblical account."
Nof figures that in the last 120 centuries, the odds of such
conditions on the low latitude Lake Kinneret are most likely
1-in-1,000. But during the time period when Jesus lived, such "spring
ice" may have formed once every 30 to 60 years.
Such floating ice in the unfrozen waters of the lake would be hard to
spot, especially if rain had smoothed its surface.
"In today's climate, the chance of springs ice forming in northern
Israel is effectively zero, or about once in more than 10,000 years,"
Nof said.
Wow, it took climatologists, and great scientific minds to come up with the
idea of "it could have been frozen" brilliant! And this ice could have
existed in the middle of the storm, and when Peter got out of the boat he
would have just missed the ice by a foot or two.
And let's not forget that John writes that the boat was 3 - 4 miles
from shore. That link was kooky even by Jabby's standards.
bla
--
"Good come back *****!"
"Didn't you bet a merit badge in Gopher Choking, bugger Boy?"
"We don't discuss religion anymore you fucking idiot! Eat some more *****"
-- Honest John, Christian evangelist
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| User: "Kelly A. Siebecke" |
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08 Apr 2006 03:31:00 PM |
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wrote:
Rare conditions could have conspired to create hard-to-see ice on the
Sea of Galilee that a person could have walked on back when Jesus is
said to have walked on water, a scientist said today.
The study, which examines a combination of favorable water and
environmental conditions, proposes that Jesus could have walked on an
isolated patch of floating ice on what is now known as Lake Kinneret
in northern
Israel.
Get a grip on reality. While it is in northern Israel, the Sea of
Galilee (not known only now as Lake Kinneret - it was also called
Chinnereth in the Bible) is the lowest freshwater lake on earth at
approximately 700 feet (210 m.) below sea level.
Freezing at 700 ft below sea level? I DON'T THINK SO...
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| User: "Jane Payne" |
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08 Apr 2006 09:19:23 PM |
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Moments before spontaneously combusting <Kelly A. Siebecke> at
<hisown12@theriver.com> was heard opining:
JhemHaddar@gmail.com wrote:
Rare conditions could have conspired to create hard-to-see ice on the
Sea of Galilee that a person could have walked on back when Jesus is
said to have walked on water, a scientist said today.
The study, which examines a combination of favorable water and
environmental conditions, proposes that Jesus could have walked on an
isolated patch of floating ice on what is now known as Lake Kinneret
in northern
Israel.
Get a grip on reality. While it is in northern Israel, the Sea of
Galilee (not known only now as Lake Kinneret - it was also called
Chinnereth in the Bible) is the lowest freshwater lake on earth at
approximately 700 feet (210 m.) below sea level.
Freezing at 700 ft below sea level? I DON'T THINK SO...
They're scrabbling for any explanation to explain away the absurdities in
their bibles. I wonder what explanation they have the talking animals?!?!?!
That should be a good one.
--
JP...
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived."
-= Isaac Asimov =-
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| User: "duke" |
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06 Apr 2006 05:50:06 PM |
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On 6 Apr 2006 04:48:50 -0700, wrote:
http://www.hotspotsz.com Hot Spots - Paranormal Phenomena
Sara Goudarzi
LiveScience Staff Writer
LiveScience.com
Rare conditions could have conspired to create hard-to-see ice on the
Sea of Galilee that a person could have walked on back when Jesus is
said to have walked on water, a scientist said today.
What were the guys in the boat doing in the meantime?
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Marie Louise Galerma" |
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06 Apr 2006 08:24:25 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:9o6b329ao67vv48kb1rsvmdr10loj60k0s@4ax.com...
What were the guys in the boat doing in the meantime?
Do you keep fish and a ponds? If so, we would love to hear about them. If
not, then please remove the
"rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this cross-posted thread. Fish are
nonsectarian. :-)
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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06 Apr 2006 10:26:52 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 6 Apr 2006 04:48:50 -0700, wrote:
http://www.hotspotsz.com Hot Spots - Paranormal Phenomena
Sara Goudarzi
LiveScience Staff Writer
LiveScience.com
Rare conditions could have conspired to create hard-to-see ice on the
Sea of Galilee that a person could have walked on back when Jesus is
said to have walked on water, a scientist said today.
What were the guys in the boat doing in the meantime?
Jacking off maybe?
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC department of little adhesive-backed shiny plastic
L-shaped doo-dads to add feet to Jesus Fish department
It is safe to say that the bible contains equal amounts of fact, history
and pizza.
-Penn Jillette
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| User: "The Nolalu Barn Owl gordie@nolalu.on.ca" |
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06 Apr 2006 07:34:14 PM |
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On 6 Apr 2006 04:48:50 -0700, wrote:
http://www.hotspotsz.com Hot Spots - Paranormal Phenomena
Sara Goudarzi
LiveScience Staff Writer
LiveScience.com
Rare conditions could have conspired to create hard-to-see ice on the
Sea of Galilee that a person could have walked on back when Jesus is
said to have walked on water, a scientist said today.
The study, which examines a combination of favorable water and
environmental conditions, proposes that Jesus could have walked on an
isolated patch of floating ice on what is now known as Lake Kinneret
in northern
Israel.
WOW! I like that one.
Seems like a bigger miracle than I thought.
How to row a boat in ice - Hmmm
-
Regards
Gordie
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?0G/Wb1o=?=" |
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06 Apr 2006 10:11:46 PM |
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"The Nolalu Barn Owl"
<gordie@nolalu.on.ca>
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Do you keep fish or a ponds Barn Owl? If so, fish would love to hear about
them. If not, then please remove the
"aquarium" NG from your replies to this nym-shifter's cross-posted thread.
Fish are nonsectarian. :-)
Thank you
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
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| User: "Fred Hall" |
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06 Apr 2006 07:49:48 PM |
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On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:34:14 -0400, The Nolalu Barn Owl
<gordie@nolalu.on.ca>
wrote:
On 6 Apr 2006 04:48:50 -0700, wrote:
http://www.hotspotsz.com Hot Spots - Paranormal Phenomena
Sara Goudarzi
LiveScience Staff Writer
LiveScience.com
Rare conditions could have conspired to create hard-to-see ice on the
Sea of Galilee that a person could have walked on back when Jesus is
said to have walked on water, a scientist said today.
The study, which examines a combination of favorable water and
environmental conditions, proposes that Jesus could have walked on an
isolated patch of floating ice on what is now known as Lake Kinneret
in northern
Israel.
WOW! I like that one.
Seems like a bigger miracle than I thought.
How to row a boat in ice - Hmmm
I suspect those that did the 'research' have never read the bible.
From that website:
"Phenomena. Hotspotsz.com is one of the fastest growing reference
bases on the net on the subjects of the paranormal.
Here at Hotspotsz.com we try to take a deeper look at Ancient
Mysteries, legends, Myths, Scientific Mysteries, Armageddon
prophecies, Religions and beliefs, Mysterious locations Around the
world, Monsters and Strange Creatures, UFOsExtraterrestrials, hoaxes,
Ghosts and hauntings, Profiles & Biographies of controversial figures
in history, occults and Magick, and Paranormal Investigations.
…and Remember nothing is as what it seems! and more often than not,
the truth is stranger than fiction!"
-
Regards
Gordie
--
"Good come back *****!"
"Didn't you bet a merit badge in Gopher Choking, bugger Boy?"
"We don't discuss religion anymore you fucking idiot! Eat some more *****"
-- Honest John, Christian evangelist
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| User: "The Nolalu Barn Owl gordie@nolalu.on.ca" |
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08 Apr 2006 12:01:17 PM |
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On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:49:48 -0500, Fred Hall <fkhall@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:34:14 -0400, The Nolalu Barn Owl
<gordie@nolalu.on.ca>
wrote:
On 6 Apr 2006 04:48:50 -0700, wrote:
http://www.hotspotsz.com Hot Spots - Paranormal Phenomena
Sara Goudarzi
LiveScience Staff Writer
LiveScience.com
Rare conditions could have conspired to create hard-to-see ice on the
Sea of Galilee that a person could have walked on back when Jesus is
said to have walked on water, a scientist said today.
The study, which examines a combination of favorable water and
environmental conditions, proposes that Jesus could have walked on an
isolated patch of floating ice on what is now known as Lake Kinneret
in northern
Israel.
WOW! I like that one.
Seems like a bigger miracle than I thought.
How to row a boat in ice - Hmmm
I suspect those that did the 'research' have never read the bible.
From that website:
"Phenomena. Hotspotsz.com is one of the fastest growing reference
bases on the net on the subjects of the paranormal.
Here at Hotspotsz.com we try to take a deeper look at Ancient
Mysteries, legends, Myths, Scientific Mysteries, Armageddon
prophecies, Religions and beliefs, Mysterious locations Around the
world, Monsters and Strange Creatures, UFOsExtraterrestrials, hoaxes,
Ghosts and hauntings, Profiles & Biographies of controversial figures
in history, occults and Magick, and Paranormal Investigations.
…and Remember nothing is as what it seems! and more often than not,
the truth is stranger than fiction!"
You are so correct when you say that nothing is as it seems.
The Gospel of John:
Walking on the Water.
6:16 * When it was evening, his disciples went down to the sea,
6:17 embarked in a boat, and went across the sea to Capernaum. It had
already grown dark, and Jesus had not yet come to them.
6:18 The sea was stirred up because a strong wind was blowing.
6:19 When they had rowed about three or four miles, they saw Jesus
walking on the sea * and coming near the boat, and they began to be
afraid.
6:20 But he said to them, "It is I. * Do not be afraid."
6:21 They wanted to take him into the boat, but the boat immediately
arrived at the shore to which they were heading.
We get cold winters here. Moving water <The sea was stirred up
because a strong wind was blowing> cannot freeze. Stirred up means
waves. Waves over 2-3 feet high are white-caps. No freezing is
possible.
Every March we have a fishing derby called, most appropriately, "The
Tough Boating Challenge". The ice is up to the crook in the ice auger
shaft and the only way to troll would be to cut a long hole with a
chainsaw. No boat can be used on ice.
--
Gordie
John 5 1:18 NWT
On this account, indeed, the Jews began seeking all the more to kill
him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath but he was also
calling God his own Father, <<making himself equal to God>>.
<<making himself equal to God>>
<<equal to God>>
<<EQUAL TO GOD>>
<<GOD>>
<<making himself God>>
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| User: "Jane Payne" |
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08 Apr 2006 12:46:24 PM |
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"The Nolalu Barn Owl"
<gordie@nolalu.on.ca>
wrote in message news:jmqf32ti1nvpprr7lg3alk3d62ltvup7bm@4ax.com...
This is off-topic for an aquarium NG. Please remove
rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc or any pond groups from any future replies.
Thanks
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| User: "Fred Hall" |
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06 Apr 2006 09:04:46 AM |
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On 6 Apr 2006 04:48:50 -0700, wrote:
http://www.hotspotsz.com Hot Spots - Paranormal Phenomena
Man, that's a stretch even for you. If you buy into that story,
you're effectively calling the writers of the NT liars.
--
"Good come back *****!"
"Didn't you bet a merit badge in Gopher Choking, bugger Boy?"
"We don't discuss religion anymore you fucking idiot! Eat some more *****"
-- Honest John, Christian evangelist
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| User: "R. Nunnely" |
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06 Apr 2006 12:42:46 PM |
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"Fred Hall" <fkhall@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e1375f$j9a$7@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
On 6 Apr 2006 04:48:50 -0700, JABRIOL wrote:
http://www.hotspotsz.com Hot Spots - Paranormal Phenomena
Man, that's a stretch even for you. If you buy into that story,
you're effectively calling the writers of the NT liars.
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Picture walking on ice in sandals......... frost-bite anyone?
--
Me .....
Well, then, have I become YOUR enemy because I tell YOU the truth?
Galatians 4:16 NWT
http://quotes.watchtower.ca/
http://www.truthandgrace.com/Watchtower.htm
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| User: "Fred Hall" |
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06 Apr 2006 12:47:42 PM |
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On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:42:46 -0500, "R. Nunnely" <Riv543@noknot.com>
wrote:
"Fred Hall" <fkhall@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e1375f$j9a$7@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
On 6 Apr 2006 04:48:50 -0700, JABRIOL wrote:
http://www.hotspotsz.com Hot Spots - Paranormal Phenomena
Man, that's a stretch even for you. If you buy into that story,
you're effectively calling the writers of the NT liars.
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Picture walking on ice in sandals......... frost-bite anyone?
LOL!
Like I said, that link was goofy even by Jabby's standards.
--
"Good come back *****!"
"Didn't you bet a merit badge in Gopher Choking, bugger Boy?"
"We don't discuss religion anymore you fucking idiot! Eat some more *****"
-- Honest John, Christian evangelist
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