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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "stoney"
Date: 02 May 2006 10:38:05 AM
Object: Subject: Re: Creationist apologetics are an incitement to sin
Subject: Re: Creationist apologetics are an incitement to sin
From: Dave Oldridge <doldr...@leavethisoutshaw.ca>
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stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote in
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:44:44 +0930, Michael Gray
<fle...@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 19:07:13 GMT, Dave Oldridge
<doldr...@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote:
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Michael Gray <fle...@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:46:35 GMT, Dave Oldridge
<doldr...@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote:

Is there an automated factory turning out you crazymotherfuckers
in droves?


Yes...it's called the human race.


So you crazymotherfuckers are NOT in your god's image?


This is logic?

Or maybe it's FUNDY logic.


I note with some boredom that you did not attempt an answer.


Christian Cowardice. Dave's very good at that as well as lies of
omission and commission.

If you think I'm a coward, you should actually try physically
confronting me.
stoney;
Dave, you're one fucked up *****. Physical 'bravery' is easy, and often
stupid. Mental bravery is where you fail-which pisses you off to no
end. That's your personal problem. [shrug] Readers see that from your
kind, ad nauseum as well as bronze age threats in a failed attempt to
salvage your poor pitiful ego.
/stoney
You're like all the fundies. A bunch of lying snivelling COWARDLY
slanderers without a shred of redeeming social value. No wonder the
creationists are beating you to a political pulp. They at least PRETEND
to be nice. You don't even try to do that much.
stoney;
That's nice projection Dave. [pat pat pat] Now run along little one
and go play with your imaginary buddy and leave the adults alone.
[sheesh!] Bronze-agers.
/stoney
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.

User: "Immortalist"

Title: Re: Subject: Re: Creationist apologetics are an incitement to sin 02 May 2006 12:17:52 PM

Is there an automated factory turning out you crazymotherfuckers
in droves?


Yes...it's called the human race.


So you crazymotherfuckers are NOT in your god's image?


This is logic?

Or maybe it's FUNDY logic.


I note with some boredom that you did not attempt an answer.


Christian Cowardice. Dave's very good at that as well as lies of
omission and commission.


If you think I'm a coward, you should actually try physically
confronting me.

stoney;
Dave, you're one fucked up *****. Physical 'bravery' is easy, and often
stupid. Mental bravery is where you fail-which pisses you off to no
end. That's your personal problem. [shrug] Readers see that from your
kind, ad nauseum as well as bronze age threats in a failed attempt to
salvage your poor pitiful ego.
/stoney


You're like all the fundies. A bunch of lying snivelling COWARDLY
slanderers without a shred of redeeming social value. No wonder the
creationists are beating you to a political pulp. They at least PRETEND
to be nice. You don't even try to do that much.

The Appeal to Ridicule is a fallacy in which ridicule or mockery is
substituted for evidence in an "argument." This line of "reasoning" has
the following form:
X, which is some form of ridicule is presented (typically directed at
the claim).
Therefore claim C is false.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because mocking a claim does not
show that it is false. This is especially clear in the following
example: "1+1=2! That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!"
It should be noted that showing that a claim is ridiculous through the
use of legitimate methods (such as a non fallacious argument) can make
it reasonable to reject the claim. One form of this line of reasoning
is known as a "reductio ad absurdum" ("reducing to absurdity"). In this
sort of argument, the idea is to show that a contradiction (a statement
that must be false) or an absurd result follows from a claim. For
example: "Bill claims that a member of a minority group cannot be a
racist. However, this is absurd. Think about this: white males are a
minority in the world. Given Bill's claim, it would follow that no
white males could be racists. Hence, the Klan, Nazis, and white
supremists are not racist organizations."
Since the claim that the Klan, Nazis, and white supremists are not
racist organizations is clearly absurd, it can be concluded that the
claim that a member of a minority cannot be a racist is false.
Examples of Appeal to Ridicule
"Sure my worthy opponent claims that we should lower tuition, but that
is just laughable."
"Support the ERA? Sure, when the women start paying for the drinks!
Hah! Hah!"
"Those wacky conservatives! They think a strong military is the key to
peace!"
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html

stoney;
That's nice projection Dave. [pat pat pat] Now run along little one
and go play with your imaginary buddy and leave the adults alone.

[sheesh!] Bronze-agers.
/stoney


--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.

.


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