Religions > Atheism > Suffer little children - More wickiness in the name of Jesus
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03 Jun 2005 11:52:22 AM |
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Suffer little children - More wickiness in the name of Jesus |
Cruelty towards childen accused of witchcraft by loving
caring church
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4607435.stm
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Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Suffer little children - More wickiness in the name of Jesus |
03 Jun 2005 12:55:22 PM |
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"Les Hellawell" <myshredder@notatleswell.freeuk.com> wrote in message
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Cruelty towards childen accused of witchcraft by loving
caring church
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4607435.stm
Good gracious, what the hell is that on top of that woman's head? Looks
like the devil took a dump on her cranium ;P
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Suffer little children - More wickiness in the name of Jesus |
08 Jun 2005 01:49:30 PM |
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:55:22 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Les Hellawell" <myshredder@notatleswell.freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:8h21a1tsfht65p1lackmc3irljs1p0273d@4ax.com...
Cruelty towards childen accused of witchcraft by loving
caring church
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4607435.stm
Good gracious, what the hell is that on top of that woman's head? Looks
like the devil took a dump on her cranium ;P
That explains her having ***** for brains.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Suffer little children - More wickiness in the name of Jesus |
08 Jun 2005 02:23:05 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:55:22 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Les Hellawell" <myshredder@notatleswell.freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:8h21a1tsfht65p1lackmc3irljs1p0273d@4ax.com...
Cruelty towards childen accused of witchcraft by loving
caring church
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4607435.stm
Good gracious, what the hell is that on top of that woman's head? Looks
like the devil took a dump on her cranium ;P
That explains her having ***** for brains.
It certainly looks like some kind of excrement, that's for sure ;P
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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| Title: Re: Suffer little children - More wickiness in the name of Jesus |
03 Jun 2005 06:49:45 PM |
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Les Hellawell wrote:
Cruelty towards childen accused of witchcraft by loving
caring church
Reminds me of the cruelty toward both adult Christians and their
children in the name of atheistic communism. Human nature's dark side
will utilize religion or atheism if practicable in pursuit of its
diabolical and depraved desires and goals. As Pascal observed, "Man is
both the glory and the shame of the universe." We educate, but we also
exterminate. We created the scalpel but also shrapnel. We produce and
we pollute as well. We explore but we also exploit. The Auschwitz gas
chambers were the work of human beings, but human beings risked their
lives in order to hide and protect those marked to suffer that horrible
fate. "We have met the enemy and he is us," according to Pogo.
Denny
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4607435.stm
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Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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ÐÏࡱá
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| User: "Dale" |
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| Title: Re: Suffer little children - More wickiness in the name of Jesus |
03 Jun 2005 09:10:58 PM |
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"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
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Les Hellawell wrote:
Cruelty towards childen accused of witchcraft by loving
caring church
Reminds me of the cruelty toward both adult Christians and their
children in the name of atheistic communism.
Christian torture and murder of non-christians begins in 314 ce.
http://www.wcer.org/members/europe/Greece/persec.htm
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: Suffer little children - More wickiness in the name of Jesus |
05 Jun 2005 11:06:22 AM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, dgillesp poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
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Reminds me of the cruelty toward both adult Christians and their
children in the name of atheistic communism. Human nature's dark side
will utilize religion or atheism if practicable in pursuit of its
diabolical and depraved desires and goals.
It's now fairly clear that you need this straw man because you need to
project your own failings onto others, and in particular onto those that
you disagree with. Your tap dance in another thread regarding the
question of whether you would rape, loot and murder is very informative.
You are scum, Denny, and you know you are scum. The only way you can
excuse yourself is by making others appear as bad as yourself.
Regards,
Josef
Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing
himself.
-- Leo Tolstoy
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| User: "stoney" |
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08 Jun 2005 01:50:07 PM |
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On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:49:45 -0400, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net>
wrote:
Les Hellawell wrote:
Cruelty towards childen accused of witchcraft by loving
caring church
Reminds me of the cruelty toward both adult Christians and their
children in the name of atheistic communism.
Oh, *****, you tiresome lying sack of shiite.
[]
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: Suffer little children - More wickiness in the name of Jesus |
04 Jun 2005 08:42:33 AM |
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On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:49:45 -0400, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net>
wrote:
Les Hellawell wrote:
Cruelty towards childen accused of witchcraft by loving
caring church
Reminds me of the cruelty toward both adult Christians and their
children in the name of atheistic communism. Human nature's dark side
will utilize religion or atheism if practicable in pursuit of its
diabolical and depraved desires and goals. As Pascal observed, "Man is
both the glory and the shame of the universe." We educate, but we also
exterminate. We created the scalpel but also shrapnel. We produce and
we pollute as well. We explore but we also exploit. The Auschwitz gas
chambers were the work of human beings, but human beings risked their
lives in order to hide and protect those marked to suffer that horrible
fate. "We have met the enemy and he is us," according to Pogo.
You could have condemned the above events knowing it was strong
belief that drove them to do what they did. Instead you choose to
excuse it by citing other wrongs. Fine, that was your choice
--
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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| Title: Re: Suffer little children - More wickiness in the name of Jesus |
04 Jun 2005 10:33:09 AM |
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Les Hellawell wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:49:45 -0400, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net>
wrote:
Les Hellawell wrote:
Cruelty towards childen accused of witchcraft by loving
caring church
Reminds me of the cruelty toward both adult Christians and their
children in the name of atheistic communism. Human nature's dark side
will utilize religion or atheism if practicable in pursuit of its
diabolical and depraved desires and goals. As Pascal observed, "Man is
both the glory and the shame of the universe." We educate, but we also
exterminate. We created the scalpel but also shrapnel. We produce and
we pollute as well. We explore but we also exploit. The Auschwitz gas
chambers were the work of human beings, but human beings risked their
lives in order to hide and protect those marked to suffer that horrible
fate. "We have met the enemy and he is us," according to Pogo.
You could have condemned the above events knowing it was strong
belief that drove them to do what they did.
Human action often have very mixed roots. Had the abusers really loved
and cared for the little girl, they wouldn't have latched onto the
witchcraft notion as an excuse to act out their rejection of her. The
article indicated that she was probably the niece of her adult abuser
rather than her daughter, an aunt who most likely resented having the
responsibility of her sister's child. People have an inordinate
capacity for rationalizing their behavior, do they not? That was my
point.
Denny
Instead you choose to
excuse it by citing other wrongs. Fine, that was your choice
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Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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ÐÏࡱá
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: Suffer little children - More wickiness in the name of Jesus |
04 Jun 2005 07:15:27 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, dgillesp poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
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People have an inordinate
capacity for rationalizing their behavior, do they not? That was my
point.
Being the Holy Fool, you certainly would know.
Regards,
Josef
Which is it: is man one of God's blunders, or is God one of man's
blunders?
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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05 Jun 2005 07:23:48 AM |
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dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Les Hellawell wrote:
Cruelty towards childen accused of witchcraft by loving
caring church
Reminds me of the cruelty toward both adult Christians and their
children in the name of atheistic communism.
Do you always equate the two as inseparable?
No such thing as a capitalistic or democratic atheist, in your
opinion?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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05 Jun 2005 01:56:50 PM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Les Hellawell wrote:
Cruelty towards childen accused of witchcraft by loving
caring church
Reminds me of the cruelty toward both adult Christians and their
children in the name of atheistic communism.
Do you always equate the two as inseparable?
By no means. The early Church described in Acts practiced a form of
Christian communism. "And all who believed were together and had all
things in common; and they sold their possessions and goods and
distributed them to all, as any had need." Acts 2.44-45 My position is
that both religion and atheism are susceptible to misuse and abuse,
since human beings, whoever whichever they may be, are prone to
rationalize their behavior.
No such thing as a capitalistic or democratic atheist, in your
opinion?
That can't be a serious question. Of course, there are both capitalist
and democratic atheists and Christians, who in spite of disparate world
views still have much the more in common.
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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ÐÏࡱá
The above pestersome "ÐÏࡱá" now appears automatically on every email
I try to compose. Don't know what causes it or what will stop it.
Denny
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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05 Jun 2005 07:27:13 AM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Les Hellawell wrote:
Cruelty towards childen accused of witchcraft by loving
caring church
Reminds me of the cruelty toward both adult Christians and their
children in the name of atheistic communism.
Do you always equate the two as inseparable?
No such thing as a capitalistic or democratic atheist, in your
opinion?
As a Democratic and Capitalistic Atheist (I'm also a Liberal!), I can
say that, without a doubt, we exist. :-) Communism isn't atheistic.
Atheism is the lack of belief in God.
Communism is a political economic theory.
While they can be mixed in a person's position, the two are disparate
entities. You can be a communist Christian, a communist atheist, a
capitalist atheist, a capitalist Christian... or something completely
different.
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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05 Jun 2005 08:09:32 AM |
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DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Les Hellawell wrote:
Cruelty towards childen accused of witchcraft by loving
caring church
Reminds me of the cruelty toward both adult Christians and their
children in the name of atheistic communism.
Do you always equate the two as inseparable?
No such thing as a capitalistic or democratic atheist, in your
opinion?
As a Democratic and Capitalistic Atheist (I'm also a Liberal!), I can
say that, without a doubt, we exist. :-) Communism isn't atheistic.
Atheism is the lack of belief in God.
Communism is a political economic theory.
I agree 100%. I think there are millions of people like Denny,
though, who think atheism and communism are one and the same thing.
They probably grew up during the anti-Soviet McCarthy era, and they
think Russia and Stalin are a valid example of what a country run by
atheists would be like.
While they can be mixed in a person's position, the two are disparate
entities. You can be a communist Christian, a communist atheist, a
capitalist atheist, a capitalist Christian... or something completely
different.
Exactly! I don't think many Christians would like to hear that some
of their fellow Christians were also communists. They'd no doubt
consider them non-Christians, and maybe even evil!
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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