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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Fred Stone"
Date: 29 Mar 2005 06:00:30 PM
Object: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede
http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?target=afghan.htm
March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government expects
about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and accept an amnesty.
These surrenders also provide information on Taliban who are not
surrendering. As a result of this, the government is turning more of its
attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
.

User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 12:41:33 AM
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the
government expects about a thousand to openly turn in
their weapons and accept an amnesty.

So you're telling us that Bush & Rumsfeld were lying when
they claimed victory in Afghanistan three years ago?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 08:45:00 AM
JTEM wrote:

"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the
government expects about a thousand to openly turn in
their weapons and accept an amnesty.


So you're telling us that Bush & Rumsfeld were lying when
they claimed victory in Afghanistan three years ago?

The German army had an overwhelming victory
over the French in 1940. French resistance
fighters, in the thousands, still fought on
for years afterwards.
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
.


User: "Meteorite Debris"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 29 Mar 2005 08:26:27 PM
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?target=afghan.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government expects
about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and accept an amnesty.
These surrenders also provide information on Taliban who are not
surrendering. As a result of this, the government is turning more of its
attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.
--
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apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
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Sunday: A day given over by Americans to wishing that they themselves
were dead and in Heaven, and that their neighbors were dead and in
Hell.
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.
User: "Fester"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 29 Mar 2005 09:30:26 PM
"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@optusnet,com.au> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au...

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?target=afghan.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government expects
about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and accept an amnesty.
These surrenders also provide information on Taliban who are not
surrendering. As a result of this, the government is turning more of its
attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.

Still holdinng our breath, waiting (hoping?) for the choppers to lift the
last US soldiers out of an overrun Baghdad?
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 29 Mar 2005 11:52:59 PM
Fester wrote:

Still holdinng our breath, waiting (hoping?) for the choppers
to lift the last US soldiers out of an overrun Baghdad?

And who would better know about failed expectations than our resident
NeoCon moron?
==================
"It's you who'll have to eat crow and ***** sandwiches as all Saddam's
nasty little WMD, French deals, and Al Qaeda secrets come tumbling out
of the rubble."
-Fester, 3/18/2004
==================
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
aka
Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and
counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1527 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and
mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.


User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 29 Mar 2005 09:47:58 PM
In our last episode <MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?target=afghan.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government
expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and accept an
amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on Taliban who are
not surrendering. As a result of this, the government is turning more of
its attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.

Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a guy who
appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English language but
we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.
I liked this one:
"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the 14
airbases it uses in Afghanistan."
Talk about budget cuts!
Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where this
"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance over here:
http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp
Though this is interesting:
"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to news
networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"
Erm... websites as sources?
"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled an
interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them have
military or foreign service experience."
Ah, he gets *letters...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Group website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
.
User: "Nick J."

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 29 Mar 2005 11:43:57 PM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

In our last episode

<MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>,

Meteorite Debris pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare

proclaimed:


On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast

expanse

of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.


http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?target=afghan.htm


March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government
expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and

accept an

amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on Taliban who

are

not surrendering. As a result of this, the government is turning

more of

its attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a guy

who

appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English language

but

we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the 14
airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where this
"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance over

here:


http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to news
networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled an
interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them have
military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...

Indeed. And I bet the lurkers love him as well. Ahh, annonymous
supporters, the eternal hidey-hole of the true kook XD
.

User: "Kate "

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 29 Mar 2005 11:46:02 PM
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode <MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?target=afghan.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government
expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and accept an
amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on Taliban who are
not surrendering. As a result of this, the government is turning more of
its attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a guy who
appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English language but
we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the 14
airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where this
"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance over here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to news
networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled an
interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them have
military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...

even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well proven he
actually is posting their articles assuming apparently every one here
would, without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts' from a vanity
site.
Can we say 'lack of judgement'?
I knew that you could.
.
User: "Brian Westley"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 09:08:26 AM
(Kate ) writes:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode <MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?target=afghan.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government
expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and accept an
amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on Taliban who are
not surrendering. As a result of this, the government is turning more of
its attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a guy who
appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English language but
we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the 14
airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where this
"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance over here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to news
networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled an
interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them have
military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...

even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well proven he
actually is posting their articles assuming apparently every one here
would, without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts' from a vanity
site.
Can we say 'lack of judgement'?

No, just "faith-based reporting"
---
Merlyn LeRoy
.

User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 10:05:53 AM
(Kate ) wrote in
news:42563b8d.118209953@news-west.newscene.com:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode <MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare
proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?

target=afghan

.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government
expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and accept
an amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on Taliban
who are not surrendering. As a result of this, the government is
turning more of its attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a guy
who appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English
language but we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the 14
airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

http://www.afghannews.net/printer.php?action=show&type=news&id=2288
U.S. Bases in Afghanistan Get $83M Upgrade
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) Brig. Gen. Jim Hunt said the money was being
spent on construction projects already underway at Bagram Air Base,
north of Kabul, and Kandahar Air Field in the south. A new runway is
being built at Bagram, the biggest Afghan airfield used by the U.S.
military...

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where this
"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance over
here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to news
networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

Erm, what else gets cited as sources on USENET?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled an
interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them have
military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...


even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well proven he
actually is posting their articles assuming apparently every one here
would, without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts' from a vanity
site.

It hardly takes much effort to confirm the facts, why don't you try it
some time?

Can we say 'lack of judgement'?

Can you say "denial?"

I knew that you could.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
.

User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 08:38:57 AM
(Kate ) wrote in
news:42563b8d.118209953@news-west.newscene.com:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode <MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare
proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?

target=afghan

.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government
expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and accept
an amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on Taliban
who are not surrendering. As a result of this, the government is
turning more of its attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a guy
who appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English
language but we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the 14
airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where this
"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance over
here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to news
networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled an
interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them have
military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...


even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well proven he
actually is posting their articles assuming apparently every one here
would, without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts' from a vanity
site.

I notice you haven't even tried to refute them.

Can we say 'lack of judgement'?

See this mirror?

I knew that you could.

http://www.sabawoon.com/newsnew/miniheadlines.asp?dismode=article&artid=
20241
http://www.afghannews.net/index.php?action=show&type=news&id=1344
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
.
User: "Kate "

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 09:26:02 AM
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:38:57 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in
news:42563b8d.118209953@news-west.newscene.com:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode <MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare
proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?

target=afghan

.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government
expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and accept
an amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on Taliban
who are not surrendering. As a result of this, the government is
turning more of its attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a guy
who appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English
language but we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the 14
airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where this
"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance over
here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to news
networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled an
interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them have
military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...


even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well proven he
actually is posting their articles assuming apparently every one here
would, without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts' from a vanity
site.


I notice you haven't even tried to refute them.

Why would I go to the bother?


Can we say 'lack of judgement'?


See this mirror?

I knew that you could.


http://www.sabawoon.com/newsnew/miniheadlines.asp?dismode=article&artid=
20241

http://www.afghannews.net/index.php?action=show&type=news&id=1344

.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 10:15:15 AM
(Kate ) wrote in
news:4258c46c.153248531@news-west.newscene.com:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:38:57 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

(Kate ) wrote in
news:42563b8d.118209953@news-west.newscene.com:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode
<MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>, Meteorite Debris
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?

target=afghan

.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government
expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and
accept an amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on
Taliban who are not surrendering. As a result of this, the
government is turning more of its attention, and guns, to the
drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a guy
who appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English
language but we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the 14
airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where this
"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance over
here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to
news networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled an
interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them
have military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...


even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well proven he
actually is posting their articles assuming apparently every one
here would, without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts' from a
vanity site.


I notice you haven't even tried to refute them.


Why would I go to the bother?

In order to back up what you say? Or is that too bourgeois for a
gulliberal like you?


Can we say 'lack of judgement'?


See this mirror?

I knew that you could.


http://www.sabawoon.com/newsnew/miniheadlines.asp?

dismode=article&artid

= 20241

http://www.afghannews.net/index.php?action=show&type=news&id=1344


--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
.
User: "Kate "

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 02:20:04 PM
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:15:15 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in
news:4258c46c.153248531@news-west.newscene.com:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:38:57 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in
news:42563b8d.118209953@news-west.newscene.com:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode
<MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>, Meteorite Debris
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?

target=afghan

.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government
expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and
accept an amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on
Taliban who are not surrendering. As a result of this, the
government is turning more of its attention, and guns, to the
drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a guy
who appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English
language but we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the 14
airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where this
"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance over
here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to
news networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled an
interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them
have military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...


even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well proven he
actually is posting their articles assuming apparently every one
here would, without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts' from a
vanity site.


I notice you haven't even tried to refute them.


Why would I go to the bother?


In order to back up what you say? Or is that too bourgeois for a
gulliberal like you?

LOL you fool. You are the one bringing up the extremely questionable
source with 'facts' - you back them up.
And to the point - I never said the facts were true or false. I just
said you had a complete lack of judgement expecting any old website
saying any old thing to be of any value to your arguments.



Can we say 'lack of judgement'?


See this mirror?

Don't you ever get tired of that old projection? It's proof positive
of your own lack of abilities.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 03:18:00 PM
(Kate ) wrote in news:425a08a6.170714500@news-
west.newscene.com:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:15:15 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

(Kate ) wrote in
news:4258c46c.153248531@news-west.newscene.com:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:38:57 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69

@earthling.com>

wrote:

(Kate ) wrote in
news:42563b8d.118209953@news-west.newscene.com:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode
<MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>, Meteorite

Debris

pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the

vast

expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?

target=afghan

.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the

government

expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and
accept an amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on
Taliban who are not surrendering. As a result of this, the
government is turning more of its attention, and guns, to the
drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing

new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a

guy

who appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English
language but we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the 14
airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where this
"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance over
here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to
news networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled an
interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them
have military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...


even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well proven he
actually is posting their articles assuming apparently every one
here would, without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts' from a
vanity site.


I notice you haven't even tried to refute them.


Why would I go to the bother?


In order to back up what you say? Or is that too bourgeois for a
gulliberal like you?


LOL you fool. You are the one bringing up the extremely questionable
source with 'facts' - you back them up.

I did, darlin. Oh, did you snip the other cites I gave?

And to the point - I never said the facts were true or false. I just
said you had a complete lack of judgement expecting any old website
saying any old thing to be of any value to your arguments.



Can we say 'lack of judgement'?


See this mirror?


Don't you ever get tired of that old projection? It's proof positive
of your own lack of abilities.

Look who's talking.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
.



User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 01:06:57 PM
In our last episode <4258c46c.153248531@news-west.newscene.com>, Kate
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:38:57 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in
news:42563b8d.118209953@news-west.newscene.com:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode <MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare
proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?

target=afghan

.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government
expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and accept
an amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on Taliban who
are not surrendering. As a result of this, the government is turning
more of its attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a guy who
appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English language
but we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the 14
airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where this
"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance over
here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to news
networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled an
interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them have
military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...


even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well proven he
actually is posting their articles assuming apparently every one here
would, without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts' from a vanity
site.


I notice you haven't even tried to refute them.


Because when somebody puts something on a website, it's obviously true
unless debunked!
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Group website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 03:17:00 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:HpCdnbD8acVMZdffRVn-pg@megapath.net:

In our last episode <4258c46c.153248531@news-west.newscene.com>, Kate
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:38:57 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in
news:42563b8d.118209953@news-west.newscene.com:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode
<MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>, Meteorite Debris
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?

target=afghan

.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the
government expects about a thousand to openly turn in their
weapons and accept an amnesty. These surrenders also provide
information on Taliban who are not surrendering. As a result of
this, the government is turning more of its attention, and guns,
to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing
new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a guy
who appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English
language but we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the 14
airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where this
"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance over
here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to
news networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled an
interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them
have military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...


even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well proven he
actually is posting their articles assuming apparently every one
here would, without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts' from a
vanity site.


I notice you haven't even tried to refute them.



Because when somebody puts something on a website, it's obviously true
unless debunked!

If it's so obviously untrue it should be a piece of cake to debunk.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
.
User: "Nick J."

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 06:53:35 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:HpCdnbD8acVMZdffRVn-pg@megapath.net:

In our last episode <4258c46c.153248531@news-west.newscene.com>,

Kate

pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:38:57 GMT, Fred Stone

<fstone69@earthling.com>

wrote:

cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in
news:42563b8d.118209953@news-west.newscene.com:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode
<MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>, Meteorite

Debris

pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the

vast

expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?

target=afghan

.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the
government expects about a thousand to openly turn in their
weapons and accept an amnesty. These surrenders also provide
information on Taliban who are not surrendering. As a result

of

this, the government is turning more of its attention, and

guns,

to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing
new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a

guy

who appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English
language but we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the

14

airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where

this

"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance

over

here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to
news networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled

an

interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them
have military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...


even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well proven

he

actually is posting their articles assuming apparently every one
here would, without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts' from

a

vanity site.


I notice you haven't even tried to refute them.



Because when somebody puts something on a website, it's obviously

true

unless debunked!


If it's so obviously untrue it should be a piece of cake to debunk.

The Burden of Proof is on the claimant, Fred. It's not up to Kate to
debunk what some guy says on his website, it's up to the guy with a
website to prove his claims. As an atheist, you should damn well know
this by now.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 08:40:35 PM
"Nick J." <NICK0094@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1112230415.605003.288840@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


Fred Stone wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:HpCdnbD8acVMZdffRVn-pg@megapath.net:

In our last episode <4258c46c.153248531@news-west.newscene.com>,

Kate

pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:38:57 GMT, Fred Stone

<fstone69@earthling.com>

wrote:

cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in
news:42563b8d.118209953@news-west.newscene.com:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode
<MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>, Meteorite

Debris

pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the

vast

expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?

target=afghan

.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the
government expects about a thousand to openly turn in their
weapons and accept an amnesty. These surrenders also provide
information on Taliban who are not surrendering. As a result

of

this, the government is turning more of its attention, and

guns,

to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing
new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a

guy

who appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English
language but we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the

14

airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where

this

"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance

over

here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to
news networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled

an

interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them
have military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...


even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well proven

he

actually is posting their articles assuming apparently every one
here would, without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts' from

a

vanity site.


I notice you haven't even tried to refute them.



Because when somebody puts something on a website, it's obviously
true unless debunked!


If it's so obviously untrue it should be a piece of cake to debunk.


The Burden of Proof is on the claimant, Fred. It's not up to Kate to
debunk what some guy says on his website, it's up to the guy with a
website to prove his claims. As an atheist, you should damn well know
this by now.

I do know it. I even posted other cites from bona fide news websites
that confirmed what the strategypage article said. Haven't you seen
them?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
.
User: "Nick J."

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 10:20:51 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

"Nick J." <NICK0094@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1112230415.605003.288840@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:


Fred Stone wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:HpCdnbD8acVMZdffRVn-pg@megapath.net:

In our last episode <4258c46c.153248531@news-west.newscene.com>,

Kate

pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:38:57 GMT, Fred Stone

<fstone69@earthling.com>

wrote:

cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in
news:42563b8d.118209953@news-west.newscene.com:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode
<MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>, Meteorite

Debris

pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across

the

vast

expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?

target=afghan

.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the
government expects about a thousand to openly turn in

their

weapons and accept an amnesty. These surrenders also

provide

information on Taliban who are not surrendering. As a

result

of

this, the government is turning more of its attention, and

guns,

to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era.

Nothing

new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by

a

guy

who appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the

English

language but we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of

the

14

airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where

this

"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance

over

here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs

to

news networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have

assembled

an

interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of

them

have military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...


even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well

proven

he

actually is posting their articles assuming apparently every

one

here would, without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts'

from

a

vanity site.


I notice you haven't even tried to refute them.



Because when somebody puts something on a website, it's

obviously

true unless debunked!


If it's so obviously untrue it should be a piece of cake to

debunk.


The Burden of Proof is on the claimant, Fred. It's not up to Kate

to

debunk what some guy says on his website, it's up to the guy with a
website to prove his claims. As an atheist, you should damn well

know

this by now.


I do know it. I even posted other cites from bona fide news websites
that confirmed what the strategypage article said. Haven't you seen
them?

Well, you weren't the one making the claim, Fred. The guy with the
website was. You just posted a link to his site. When Kate said she
didn't buy his claim, you suggested that she should try to debunk it.
Why would you say that, if you supposedly understand how the Burden of
Proof works?
As for the additional links that you provided, those are interesting, I
am sure, but why didn't you just post those in the first place? Why
bother with the website of some guy we've never even heard of, when you
could have pointed us directly to where he was getting his information?
.



User: "jwk"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 31 Mar 2005 12:13:31 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

I notice you haven't even tried to refute them.



Because when somebody puts something on a website, it's obviously

true

unless debunked!


If it's so obviously untrue it should be a piece of cake to debunk.

You mean like "God" Fred? Ever succeed in debunking it to a Christian?
That's how we feel trying to get you to see sense about your neocons.
jwk
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 31 Mar 2005 12:30:19 PM
"jwk" <jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1112292811.382085.12390@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:


Fred Stone wrote:

I notice you haven't even tried to refute them.



Because when somebody puts something on a website, it's obviously
true unless debunked!


If it's so obviously untrue it should be a piece of cake to debunk.


You mean like "God" Fred? Ever succeed in debunking it to a
Christian?
That's how we feel trying to get you to see sense about your neocons.

Funny, that's how I feel trying to get you to see sense about your
gulliberals.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
.
User: "Kate "

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 31 Mar 2005 02:52:04 PM
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:30:19 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

"jwk" <jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1112292811.382085.12390@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:


Fred Stone wrote:

I notice you haven't even tried to refute them.



Because when somebody puts something on a website, it's obviously
true unless debunked!


If it's so obviously untrue it should be a piece of cake to debunk.


You mean like "God" Fred? Ever succeed in debunking it to a
Christian?
That's how we feel trying to get you to see sense about your neocons.


Funny, that's how I feel trying to get you to see sense about your
gulliberals.

Yeah, but you've had to bend yourself into pretzels trying to justify
yourself in doing it. It' hasn't been a pretty sight.
I prefer the morality of simple rationality and facts - you know, the
ones based on scientific principles that your buddy Bush hates with a
passion.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 31 Mar 2005 10:03:02 PM
(Kate ) wrote in
news:42626211.259141781@news-west.newscene.com:

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:30:19 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

"jwk" <jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1112292811.382085.12390@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:


Fred Stone wrote:

I notice you haven't even tried to refute them.



Because when somebody puts something on a website, it's obviously
true unless debunked!


If it's so obviously untrue it should be a piece of cake to debunk.


You mean like "God" Fred? Ever succeed in debunking it to a
Christian?
That's how we feel trying to get you to see sense about your
neocons.


Funny, that's how I feel trying to get you to see sense about your
gulliberals.


Yeah, but you've had to bend yourself into pretzels trying to justify
yourself in doing it. It' hasn't been a pretty sight.

You should know all about bending yourself into pretzels, Kate. Just
look in a mirror.

I prefer the morality of simple rationality and facts - you know, the
ones based on scientific principles that your buddy Bush hates with a
passion.

Yes, your oversimplified single-minded gulliberalism. You know, the kind
that can't handle the idea that the case for invading Iraq had more than
20 separate clauses in it.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
.








User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 08:31:10 AM
In our last episode <42563b8d.118209953@news-west.newscene.com>, Kate
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode <MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?target=afghan.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government
expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and accept an
amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on Taliban who are
not surrendering. As a result of this, the government is turning more
of its attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a guy who
appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English language but
we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the 14
airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where this
"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance over here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to news
networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled an
interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them have
military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...


even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well proven he actually
is posting their articles assuming apparently every one here would,
without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts' from a vanity site.

Can we say 'lack of judgement'?

I knew that you could.

Grasping at straws leads to interesting behavior?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Group website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 31 Mar 2005 07:20:25 PM
On 29 Mar 2005 23:46:02 -0600,
(Kate ) wrote:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:47:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode <MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?target=afghan.htm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government
expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and accept an
amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on Taliban who are
not surrendering. As a result of this, the government is turning more of
its attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.


Interesting thing to me is it seems to be some vanity site by a guy who
appears to have trouble with the intricacies of the English language but
we're supposed to take as a reliable journalist.

I liked this one:

"March 29, 2005: The U.S. is spending $83 to upgrade two of the 14
airbases it uses in Afghanistan."

Talk about budget cuts!

Anyway, I can't find any actual cites to indicate from where this
"information" is coming. Just a vague, general song and dance over here:

http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp

Though this is interesting:

"The proliferation of websites -from terrorist groups to NGOs to news
networks- offers the analyst a wealth of information"

Erm... websites as sources?

"Finally, there's 'our gang.' Over the years we have assembled an
interesting cadre of friends and acquaintances. A number of them have
military or foreign service experience."

Ah, he gets *letters...


even more telling, - Fred thinks this source is so well proven he
actually is posting their articles assuming apparently every one here
would, without a thought, accept the unbacked 'facts' from a vanity
site.

Can we say 'lack of judgement'?

I knew that you could.

Can you say; "liquified brain?"
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 30 Mar 2005 10:05:51 AM
Meteorite Debris <abuse@optusnet,com.au> wrote in
news:MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?

target=afghan.h

tm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government
expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and accept
an amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on Taliban who
are not surrendering. As a result of this, the government is turning
more of its attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.

http://www.afghannews.net/index.php?action=show&type=news&id=1344
UN Survey Sees Early Strides in Afghan War on Drugs
By Simon Cameron-Moore
KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan has made strides in its war on narcotics
according to a U.N. survey released on Sunday that showed poppy
cultivation in most of the main growing areas down on last year's record
levels.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
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User: "jwk"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 31 Mar 2005 12:17:15 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

Meteorite Debris <abuse@optusnet,com.au> wrote in
news:MPG.1cb4a44843e079a698a0c5@news.optusnet.com.au:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:30 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/qndguide/default.asp?

target=afghan.h

tm

March 26, 2005: More Taliban are surrendering, and the government
expects about a thousand to openly turn in their weapons and

accept

an amnesty. These surrenders also provide information on Taliban

who

are not surrendering. As a result of this, the government is

turning

more of its attention, and guns, to the drug gangs...


Reads like a typical headline during the Vietnam era. Nothing new.


http://www.afghannews.net/index.php?action=show&type=news&id=1344

UN Survey Sees Early Strides in Afghan War on Drugs

By Simon Cameron-Moore
KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan has made strides in its war on

narcotics

according to a U.N. survey released on Sunday that showed poppy
cultivation in most of the main growing areas down on last year's

record

levels.

"Down on last year's record levels" isn't cause for celebration. Last
year they were way up. They weren't *that high when the idiot taliban
was running things. Still I suppose you could call this a "stride".
jwk
.



User: "Nick J."

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 29 Mar 2005 07:58:51 PM
That is a good sign. It will be even nicer when the Bush
administration manages to finally capture Bin Laden, of course. Or at
the very least, whoever was responsible for mailing those anthrax-laced
letters.
.
User: "towelie"

Title: Re: Taliban surrenders turn into stampede 29 Mar 2005 08:26:03 PM
TV's Nick J. wrote:

That is a good sign. It will be even nicer when the Bush
administration manages to finally capture Bin Laden, of course. Or at
the very least, whoever was responsible for mailing those anthrax-laced
letters.

Then it will never be even nicer.
--
Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
aa #2133
ap #19
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