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"An Evil Meme" |
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21 Jan 2005 07:04:32 AM |
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Talking to a brick wall |
Whenever I feel optimistic about dealing with bible thumping wackos I go and
actually listen to them for a while, the optimism quickly fades.
Last night in one of the AOL born again chat room one of the zealots gave this
gem of a post:
"People that deny creationism never offer any alternatives!"
How is ignorance like this even fucking possible in America circa 2005?!?!?!?
Okay, I ranted I feel better, thanks.
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| User: "Religion Is A Disease...Clayton Is The Placebo" |
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| Title: Re: Talking to a brick wall |
21 Jan 2005 07:06:47 PM |
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"An Evil Meme" <anevilmeme@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20050121080432.10783.00000132@mb-m29.aol.com...
Whenever I feel optimistic about dealing with bible thumping wackos I go
and
actually listen to them for a while, the optimism quickly fades.
Last night in one of the AOL born again chat room one of the zealots gave
this
gem of a post:
"People that deny creationism never offer any alternatives!"
How is ignorance like this even fucking possible in America circa
2005?!?!?!?
Okay, I ranted I feel better, thanks.
I once had a 19 year old girl, who claimed she was going to university say
to me that evolution wasn't true and that you can't trust what scientists
say about evolution because "Scientist don't even know what causes
rainbows!"
Need I say more?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Talking to a brick wall |
21 Jan 2005 09:40:50 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:06:47 +1000, "Religion Is A Disease...Clayton
Is The Placebo" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymail.com> said in alt.atheism:
I once had a 19 year old girl, who claimed she was going to university say
to me that evolution wasn't true and that you can't trust what scientists
say about evolution because "Scientist don't even know what causes
rainbows!"
She was right. Scientists have no clue that rainbows are the symbol
of a covenant between a man long dead and a god that never existed.
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"To assume the existence of an unperceivable being ... does not facilitate understanding
the orderliness we find in the perceivable world."
- Letter to an Iowa student who asked, What is God? July, 1953; Einstein Archive 59-085
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| User: "Religion Is A Disease...Clayton Is The Placebo" |
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| Title: Re: Talking to a brick wall |
22 Jan 2005 02:11:10 AM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:doi3v01nsigrr4sfd97dmrq31e4gqieg1b@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:06:47 +1000, "Religion Is A Disease...Clayton
Is The Placebo" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymail.com> said in alt.atheism:
I once had a 19 year old girl, who claimed she was going to university
say
to me that evolution wasn't true and that you can't trust what scientists
say about evolution because "Scientist don't even know what causes
rainbows!"
She was right. Scientists have no clue that rainbows are the symbol
of a covenant between a man long dead and a god that never existed.
What gets me is HOW could a person get to 19 without finding out about
it...even accidentally??? We have a long running children's show here for
toddlers and pre-schoolers called "Play School" and even THEY once explained
rainbows!
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Talking to a brick wall |
22 Jan 2005 04:42:18 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:11:10 +1000, "Religion Is A Disease...Clayton
Is The Placebo" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymail.com> said in alt.atheism:
What gets me is HOW could a person get to 19 without finding out about
it...even accidentally???
Brainwashing. Wilful ignorance. Fear.
We have a long running children's show here for
toddlers and pre-schoolers called "Play School" and even THEY once explained
rainbows!
And fundy children are told to ignore that, since we KNOW that
rainbows are Gawd's covenant, etc.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Talking to a brick wall |
24 Jan 2005 12:10:47 AM |
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In article <doi3v01nsigrr4sfd97dmrq31e4gqieg1b@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:06:47 +1000, "Religion Is A Disease...Clayton
Is The Placebo" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymail.com> said in alt.atheism:
I once had a 19 year old girl, who claimed she was going to university say
to me that evolution wasn't true and that you can't trust what scientists
say about evolution because "Scientist don't even know what causes
rainbows!"
She was right. Scientists have no clue that rainbows are the symbol
of a covenant between a man long dead and a god that never existed.
And I'll bet that they will deny that there is a pot of gold at the end
of them too.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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24 Jan 2005 12:37:03 AM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:10:47 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
In article <doi3v01nsigrr4sfd97dmrq31e4gqieg1b@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:06:47 +1000, "Religion Is A Disease...Clayton
Is The Placebo" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymail.com> said in alt.atheism:
I once had a 19 year old girl, who claimed she was going to university say
to me that evolution wasn't true and that you can't trust what scientists
say about evolution because "Scientist don't even know what causes
rainbows!"
She was right. Scientists have no clue that rainbows are the symbol
of a covenant between a man long dead and a god that never existed.
And I'll bet that they will deny that there is a pot of gold at the end
of them too.
I got mine. You didn't get yours?
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"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education and social
ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he
had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
-Albert Einstein
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Talking to a brick wall |
25 Jan 2005 12:01:52 AM |
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In article <4s59v01fv4engqa33vvk680fr8d8m8af9g@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:10:47 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
In article <doi3v01nsigrr4sfd97dmrq31e4gqieg1b@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:06:47 +1000, "Religion Is A Disease...Clayton
Is The Placebo" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymail.com> said in alt.atheism:
I once had a 19 year old girl, who claimed she was going to university say
to me that evolution wasn't true and that you can't trust what scientists
say about evolution because "Scientist don't even know what causes
rainbows!"
She was right. Scientists have no clue that rainbows are the symbol
of a covenant between a man long dead and a god that never existed.
And I'll bet that they will deny that there is a pot of gold at the end
of them too.
I got mine. You didn't get yours?
I must have been looking at the wrong end. :-)
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Talking to a brick wall |
25 Jan 2005 06:03:39 PM |
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:01:52 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <4s59v01fv4engqa33vvk680fr8d8m8af9g@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:10:47 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
In article <doi3v01nsigrr4sfd97dmrq31e4gqieg1b@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:06:47 +1000, "Religion Is A Disease...Clayton
Is The Placebo" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymail.com> said in alt.atheism:
I once had a 19 year old girl, who claimed she was going to university say
to me that evolution wasn't true and that you can't trust what scientists
say about evolution because "Scientist don't even know what causes
rainbows!"
She was right. Scientists have no clue that rainbows are the symbol
of a covenant between a man long dead and a god that never existed.
And I'll bet that they will deny that there is a pot of gold at the end
of them too.
I got mine. You didn't get yours?
I must have been looking at the wrong end. :-)
Nah. Al got there just before you did...... ;)
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Talking to a brick wall |
25 Jan 2005 11:50:56 PM |
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In article <9indv0hrlv4nmvq5bl6u6f17l0kcjt112g@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:01:52 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <4s59v01fv4engqa33vvk680fr8d8m8af9g@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:10:47 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
In article <doi3v01nsigrr4sfd97dmrq31e4gqieg1b@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:06:47 +1000, "Religion Is A Disease...Clayton
Is The Placebo" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymail.com> said in alt.atheism:
I once had a 19 year old girl, who claimed she was going to university
say
to me that evolution wasn't true and that you can't trust what
scientists
say about evolution because "Scientist don't even know what causes
rainbows!"
She was right. Scientists have no clue that rainbows are the symbol
of a covenant between a man long dead and a god that never existed.
And I'll bet that they will deny that there is a pot of gold at the end
of them too.
I got mine. You didn't get yours?
I must have been looking at the wrong end. :-)
Nah. Al got there just before you did...... ;)
Figures. The story of my life. A day late and a dollar short.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Talking to a brick wall |
26 Jan 2005 03:34:48 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:50:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <9indv0hrlv4nmvq5bl6u6f17l0kcjt112g@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:01:52 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <4s59v01fv4engqa33vvk680fr8d8m8af9g@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:10:47 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
In article <doi3v01nsigrr4sfd97dmrq31e4gqieg1b@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:06:47 +1000, "Religion Is A Disease...Clayton
Is The Placebo" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymail.com> said in alt.atheism:
I once had a 19 year old girl, who claimed she was going to university
say
to me that evolution wasn't true and that you can't trust what
scientists
say about evolution because "Scientist don't even know what causes
rainbows!"
She was right. Scientists have no clue that rainbows are the symbol
of a covenant between a man long dead and a god that never existed.
And I'll bet that they will deny that there is a pot of gold at the end
of them too.
I got mine. You didn't get yours?
I must have been looking at the wrong end. :-)
Nah. Al got there just before you did...... ;)
Figures. The story of my life. A day late and a dollar short.
Occupational hazard.......
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Talking to a brick wall |
22 Jan 2005 07:27:54 AM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:40:50 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:06:47 +1000, "Religion Is A Disease...Clayton
Is The Placebo" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymail.com> said in alt.atheism:
I once had a 19 year old girl, who claimed she was going to university say
to me that evolution wasn't true and that you can't trust what scientists
say about evolution because "Scientist don't even know what causes
rainbows!"
She was right. Scientists have no clue that rainbows are the symbol
of a covenant between a man long dead and a god that never existed.
So says a man that claims he has been dead at least twice now.
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "stoney" |
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23 Jan 2005 10:54:32 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:06:47 +1000, "Religion Is A Disease...Clayton
Is The Placebo" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymail.com> wrote:
"An Evil Meme" <anevilmeme@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20050121080432.10783.00000132@mb-m29.aol.com...
Whenever I feel optimistic about dealing with bible thumping wackos I go
and
actually listen to them for a while, the optimism quickly fades.
Last night in one of the AOL born again chat room one of the zealots gave
this
gem of a post:
"People that deny creationism never offer any alternatives!"
How is ignorance like this even fucking possible in America circa
2005?!?!?!?
Okay, I ranted I feel better, thanks.
I once had a 19 year old girl, who claimed she was going to university say
to me that evolution wasn't true and that you can't trust what scientists
say about evolution because "Scientist don't even know what causes
rainbows!"
Need I say more?
Who was powering her iron lung and why?
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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21 Jan 2005 08:50:57 AM |
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An Evil Meme wrote:
Whenever I feel optimistic about dealing with bible thumping wackos I go and
actually listen to them for a while, the optimism quickly fades.
Last night in one of the AOL born again chat room one of the zealots gave this
gem of a post:
"People that deny creationism never offer any alternatives!"
How is ignorance like this even fucking possible in America circa 2005?!?!?!?
Okay, I ranted I feel better, thanks.
Oh great, now I'm depressed.
See, it's stories like this, and not your fault by the way Evil, that
constantly remind me of the 1000cc brained, knuckle dragging, tree
swinging, thick skulled members of our species that simply refuse to
evolve to any higher form. Mostly in the US.
And the worst part is, I'm part of that collection.
Now I'm depressed.
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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| Title: Re: Talking to a brick wall |
21 Jan 2005 11:26:14 PM |
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On 21 Jan 2005 13:04:32 GMT in alt.atheism, (An
Evil Meme) defied the status quo and scrawled upon the toilet stall:
Whenever I feel optimistic about dealing with bible thumping wackos I go and
actually listen to them for a while, the optimism quickly fades.
Last night in one of the AOL born again chat room one of the zealots gave this
gem of a post:
"People that deny creationism never offer any alternatives!"
How is ignorance like this even fucking possible in America circa 2005?!?!?!?
Okay, I ranted I feel better, thanks.
Take heart. It's probably just some 12 year old parroting mommy &
daddy. Most of them actually seem to grow up eventually. :-)
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L8r,
Uncle Buck
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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21 Jan 2005 05:22:45 PM |
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On 21 Jan 2005 13:04:32 GMT, (An Evil Meme) said in
alt.atheism:
Whenever I feel optimistic about dealing with bible thumping wackos I go and
actually listen to them for a while, the optimism quickly fades.
Last night in one of the AOL born again chat room one of the zealots gave this
gem of a post:
"People that deny creationism never offer any alternatives!"
How is ignorance like this even fucking possible in America circa 2005?!?!?!?
In a word, Christianity. In two, fundamentalist religion.
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"I don't try to imagine a God; it suffices to stand in awe of the structure of the world
insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to appreciate it."
- Letter to S. Flesch, April 16, 1954; Einstein Archive 30-1154
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Talking to a brick wall |
22 Jan 2005 07:26:29 AM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:22:45 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On 21 Jan 2005 13:04:32 GMT, (An Evil Meme) said in
alt.atheism:
Whenever I feel optimistic about dealing with bible thumping wackos I go and
actually listen to them for a while, the optimism quickly fades.
Last night in one of the AOL born again chat room one of the zealots gave this
gem of a post:
"People that deny creationism never offer any alternatives!"
How is ignorance like this even fucking possible in America circa 2005?!?!?!?
In a word, Christianity. In two, fundamentalist religion.
You forgot the third, alklein - in the mind of the atheist.
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "duke" |
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22 Jan 2005 07:25:48 AM |
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On 21 Jan 2005 13:04:32 GMT, (An Evil Meme) wrote:
Last night in one of the AOL born again chat room one of the zealots gave this
gem of a post:
"People that deny creationism never offer any alternatives!"
Creationism is defined in more ways than one - as a comment regarding the age of
mankind and as a means of describing the creation of the universe and all that
is in it.
To the latter, I say that creationism and only creationism is possible. What
say you?
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Talking to a brick wall |
23 Jan 2005 10:53:36 PM |
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On 21 Jan 2005 13:04:32 GMT, (An Evil Meme) wrote:
Whenever I feel optimistic about dealing with bible thumping wackos I go and
actually listen to them for a while, the optimism quickly fades.
Last night in one of the AOL born again chat room one of the zealots gave this
gem of a post:
"People that deny creationism never offer any alternatives!"
How is ignorance like this even fucking possible in America circa 2005?!?!?!?
Very easy, destroy the public education system and daemonize learning.
Okay, I ranted I feel better, thanks.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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