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User: "Jason Spaceman"
Date: 17 Feb 2005 01:31:52 AM
Object: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution
From the article:
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The same school board member who helped establish a Bible class in
Shelby County Schools is pushing for a creation message on high school
biology books.
County school board member Wyatt Bunker, who believes the Bible is the
inerrant word of God, said he's concerned that students are being
taught only scientific theories such as evolution and the Big Bang.
He is seeking support of fellow board members to place this sticker
on textbooks:
"This textbook contains material on scientific theories about
creation. There are many scientific and religious theories about the
nature and diversity of living things. All theories should be
approached with an open mind, studied carefully and critically
considered."
Board members, however, deferred action this week.
"Why is that necessary?" asked fellow board member Virginia Harvell.
Still, several board members have been dismayed that no state-approved
texts teach the religious creationism approach along with scientific
theories, Bunker said Wednesday.
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Read it at
http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/local_news/article/0,1426,MCA_437_3553964,00.html
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J. Spaceman
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User: "John Vreeland"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 17 Feb 2005 06:13:34 AM


"... There are many scientific and religious theories about the
nature and diversity of living things. All theories should be
approached with an open mind, studied carefully and critically
considered."

Actually, I agree with that. I doubt the author of that statement
understood its implications.
.
User: "Dale"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 18 Feb 2005 07:47:55 PM
"John Vreeland" <Vreejack@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1108642414.010325.9050@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


"... There are many scientific and religious theories about the
nature and diversity of living things. All theories should be
approached with an open mind, studied carefully and critically
considered."


Actually, I agree with that. I doubt the author of that statement
understood its implications.

If they only knew what they were letting themselves in for, they'd stop all
this nonsense and keep creationism in Sunday school where it belongs.
.

User: "Sasha"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 17 Feb 2005 09:13:27 AM
This is my favorite part:
"County school board member Wyatt Bunker, who believes the Bible is the
inerrant word of God, said he's concerned that students are being
taught only scientific theories such as evolution and the Big Bang."
I, too, am very concerned that only scientific theories are being
taught in science classes. (Dripping with sarcasm).
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 23 Feb 2005 10:35:48 PM
On 17 Feb 2005 07:13:27 -0800, "Sasha" <scironi@gmail.com> wrote:

This is my favorite part:

"County school board member Wyatt Bunker, who believes the Bible is the
inerrant word of God, said he's concerned that students are being
taught only scientific theories such as evolution and the Big Bang."

I, too, am very concerned that only scientific theories are being
taught in science classes. (Dripping with sarcasm).

Well I live in Shelby county <A suburb of Memphis> and I'm a bit
concerned myself about some of their "scientific" theories.
For instance if you ask a high school student here what makes the wind
blow he's likely to go off on some sort of idiocy about high pressure
moving to low pressure like in water which the air *is not* water and
that being so is a thing that makes the explanation ridiculous.
What happens is that the sap in the trees heats up and causes the
branches to sway back and forth stirring up the air like a bunch of
fans.
Now you may think that's silly but just ask yourself this
question...have you ever seen the wind blow when the trees weren't
moving?
I rest my case there.
But it's not something that they teach as an alternative theory.
And then there's that thing about why the days in the summer are
longer than the days in the winter.
Here they teach that it has something to do with the Earth tilting or
some such nonsense as though we wouldn't all fall off if it did so.
But then in other lessons they teach that heat expands and cold
contracts which of course *would* make the days longer in the summer.
So which is it?
That the Earth rolls over on it's side and nobody ever notices or that
the other thing is true?
We *do* need better books here with more than one point of view on
stuff.
atheist@home#1554
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 24 Feb 2005 02:26:01 PM
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 04:35:48 GMT,
wrote:

On 17 Feb 2005 07:13:27 -0800, "Sasha" <scironi@gmail.com> wrote:

This is my favorite part:

"County school board member Wyatt Bunker, who believes the Bible is the
inerrant word of God, said he's concerned that students are being
taught only scientific theories such as evolution and the Big Bang."

I, too, am very concerned that only scientific theories are being
taught in science classes. (Dripping with sarcasm).


Well I live in Shelby county <A suburb of Memphis> and I'm a bit
concerned myself about some of their "scientific" theories.
For instance if you ask a high school student here what makes the wind
blow he's likely to go off on some sort of idiocy about high pressure
moving to low pressure like in water which the air *is not* water and
that being so is a thing that makes the explanation ridiculous.
What happens is that the sap in the trees heats up and causes the
branches to sway back and forth stirring up the air like a bunch of
fans.
Now you may think that's silly but just ask yourself this
question...have you ever seen the wind blow when the trees weren't
moving?
I rest my case there.
But it's not something that they teach as an alternative theory.
And then there's that thing about why the days in the summer are
longer than the days in the winter.
Here they teach that it has something to do with the Earth tilting or
some such nonsense as though we wouldn't all fall off if it did so.
But then in other lessons they teach that heat expands and cold
contracts which of course *would* make the days longer in the summer.
So which is it?
That the Earth rolls over on it's side and nobody ever notices or that
the other thing is true?
We *do* need better books here with more than one point of view on
stuff.

That would make a great "Letter to the Editor" in rebuttal to
cretinist droolings! :)))

atheist@home#1554

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User: "Harry F. Leopold"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 24 Feb 2005 08:27:19 AM
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:35:48 -0600,
wrote
(in article <g0nq1197bkbc3rm5a0cmpb60emqkk8pvkk@4ax.com>):

On 17 Feb 2005 07:13:27 -0800, "Sasha" <scironi@gmail.com> wrote:

This is my favorite part:

"County school board member Wyatt Bunker, who believes the Bible is the
inerrant word of God, said he's concerned that students are being
taught only scientific theories such as evolution and the Big Bang."

I, too, am very concerned that only scientific theories are being
taught in science classes. (Dripping with sarcasm).


Well I live in Shelby county <A suburb of Memphis> and I'm a bit
concerned myself about some of their "scientific" theories.
For instance if you ask a high school student here what makes the wind
blow he's likely to go off on some sort of idiocy about high pressure
moving to low pressure like in water which the air *is not* water and
that being so is a thing that makes the explanation ridiculous.
What happens is that the sap in the trees heats up and causes the
branches to sway back and forth stirring up the air like a bunch of
fans.
Now you may think that's silly but just ask yourself this
question...have you ever seen the wind blow when the trees weren't
moving?
I rest my case there.
But it's not something that they teach as an alternative theory.
And then there's that thing about why the days in the summer are
longer than the days in the winter.
Here they teach that it has something to do with the Earth tilting or
some such nonsense as though we wouldn't all fall off if it did so.
But then in other lessons they teach that heat expands and cold
contracts which of course *would* make the days longer in the summer.
So which is it?
That the Earth rolls over on it's side and nobody ever notices or that
the other thing is true?
We *do* need better books here with more than one point of view on
stuff.

atheist@home#1554


Blub. I am drowning in a sea of sarcasm. I will have to remember these for
the next time I have a chance to go to one of the public school board
meetings here in Kansas. Maybe ridicule will work were facts won't with these
morons.
Thanks.
--
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 24 Feb 2005 02:40:31 PM
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:27:19 -0600, "Harry F. Leopold"
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:35:48 -0600,

wrote
(in article <g0nq1197bkbc3rm5a0cmpb60emqkk8pvkk@4ax.com>):

On 17 Feb 2005 07:13:27 -0800, "Sasha" <scironi@gmail.com> wrote:

This is my favorite part:

"County school board member Wyatt Bunker, who believes the Bible is the
inerrant word of God, said he's concerned that students are being
taught only scientific theories such as evolution and the Big Bang."

I, too, am very concerned that only scientific theories are being
taught in science classes. (Dripping with sarcasm).


Well I live in Shelby county <A suburb of Memphis> and I'm a bit
concerned myself about some of their "scientific" theories.
For instance if you ask a high school student here what makes the wind
blow he's likely to go off on some sort of idiocy about high pressure
moving to low pressure like in water which the air *is not* water and
that being so is a thing that makes the explanation ridiculous.
What happens is that the sap in the trees heats up and causes the
branches to sway back and forth stirring up the air like a bunch of
fans.
Now you may think that's silly but just ask yourself this
question...have you ever seen the wind blow when the trees weren't
moving?
I rest my case there.
But it's not something that they teach as an alternative theory.
And then there's that thing about why the days in the summer are
longer than the days in the winter.
Here they teach that it has something to do with the Earth tilting or
some such nonsense as though we wouldn't all fall off if it did so.
But then in other lessons they teach that heat expands and cold
contracts which of course *would* make the days longer in the summer.
So which is it?
That the Earth rolls over on it's side and nobody ever notices or that
the other thing is true?
We *do* need better books here with more than one point of view on
stuff.

atheist@home#1554


Blub. I am drowning in a sea of sarcasm. I will have to remember these for
the next time I have a chance to go to one of the public school board
meetings here in Kansas. Maybe ridicule will work were facts won't with these
morons.

Thanks.

Print it out and send it as a Letter to the Editor rebuttal.
Don't forget Elf's "Intelligent Grappling FAQ."
The INTELLIGENT GRAPPLING FAQ.
1. What is Intelligent Grappling (IG?)
Intelligent Grappling is the SCIENTIFIC Theory that
Intelligent
and Conscious Agents "push" things together. It is the only coherent
theory that explains why things fall.
2. Doesn't gravity explain why things fall?
NO. Gravity only attempts to describe what objects do. It
does
not explain WHY they do them. It is that challenge that Intelligent
Grappling is intended to meet.
3. Aren't there theories that explain why things fall?
NO. There are theories by atheists and secular humanists that
TRY, but they all lead to crazy conclusions no human being has ever
seen, like black holes and the so-called "Big Bang". Intelligent
Grappling ONLY deals with the visible world.
4. Is Intelligent Grappling a scientific theory?
YES. Intelligent Grappling is the ONLY VIABLE THEORY fore why
things fall. Physicists have tried for a hundred years to explain why
things fall and THEY HAVE FAILED. It is time for a new theory, one
backed up by all the evidence, to finally solve the question. IG is
that theory.
5. Isn't "Intelligent Grappling" just another way of saying, "Angels
push things around?"
NO. Intelligent Grappling says nothing at all about the
nature
or origins of the conscious agents that perform the actual act of
pushing and grappling. All IG says is that conscious agents are the
cause of all apparent "gravitic" phenomenon.
6. In order to accept Intelligent Design, must I accept Intelligent
Grappling as well?
YES. Intelligent Design says that there is a
non-naturalistic,
conscious designer at work at the biological level. Intelligent
Grappling says that there is a non-naturalistic, conscious grappler at
the physicial level. Accepting a naturalistic explanation for one
phenomenon but a non-naturalistic explanation for another is a
philosophically corrupt position and we do not advocate it.
Elf
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Disproportionately Popular Among Homosexuals.
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Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 24 Feb 2005 10:01:30 PM
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:40:31 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:

Don't forget Elf's "Intelligent Grappling FAQ."
The INTELLIGENT GRAPPLING FAQ.

Nah!
IG has a document that explains what it is. That puts it light years
ahead of ID.
--
rukbat at verizon dot net
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious
conviction."
- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
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User: "Rally"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 17 Feb 2005 07:56:19 AM


Still, several board members have been dismayed that no state-approved
texts teach the religious creationism approach along with scientific
theories, Bunker said Wednesday.
---------------------------------------------------------

Dismayed?
Those poor creatures. It must really suck walking around without
having a clue on how things like lightning, rain, day-to-night
transitions, how *really not to catch the flu, and other such things
originate, function, or end. I say that because only that level of
non-understanding can make a person "dismayed" over such a thing.
Sad.

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User: "Iain"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 17 Feb 2005 04:52:57 AM
Jason Spaceman wrote:

From the article:
---------------------------------------------------
The same school board member who helped establish a Bible class in
Shelby County Schools is pushing for a creation message on high

school

biology books.

Is the United States trying to disqualify itself from the self-styled
civilised world?
~Iain
.
User: "Jeffrey Turner"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 17 Feb 2005 06:45:20 AM
Iain wrote:

Jason Spaceman wrote:

From the article:
---------------------------------------------------
The same school board member who helped establish a Bible class in
Shelby County Schools is pushing for a creation message on high
school
biology books.


Is the United States trying to disqualify itself from the self-styled
civilised world?

The Enlightenment is overrated.
--Jeff
--
It is only those who have neither
fired a shot nor heard the shrieks
and groans of the wounded who cry
aloud for blood, more vengeance, more
desolation. War is hell.
--William Tecumseh Sherman
In war, there are no unwounded soldiers.
--Jose Narosky
The urge to save humanity is almost
always a false front for the urge to
rule.
--H.L. Mencken
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 18 Feb 2005 07:39:29 AM
The USA passed through Enlightenment?
.
User: "Rich Mathers"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 18 Feb 2005 03:00:17 PM
wrote:

The USA passed through Enlightenment?

It's part of NCLB. The unfunded part!
.

User: "Fencingsax"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 18 Feb 2005 08:00:57 AM
wrote:

The USA passed through Enlightenment?

Anything could pass through Enlightenment. Unless you have a rather
sturdy holo-whip in the munitions cabinet.
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 18 Feb 2005 07:09:31 PM
On 18 Feb 2005 05:39:29 -0800,
wrote:

The USA passed through Enlightenment?

No. Enlightenment bypassed the USA.
--
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Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.



User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 18 Feb 2005 07:09:06 PM
On 17 Feb 2005 02:52:57 -0800, "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com>
wrote:


Jason Spaceman wrote:

From the article:
---------------------------------------------------
The same school board member who helped establish a Bible class in
Shelby County Schools is pushing for a creation message on high

school

biology books.


Is the United States trying to disqualify itself from the self-styled
civilised world?

It did that in 2001.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.

User: "The Last Conformist"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 17 Feb 2005 09:05:19 AM
Some of them seem to want an opt-out on reality.
.


User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 17 Feb 2005 10:56:13 PM
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:31:52 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> said in alt.atheism:

Still, several board members have been dismayed that no state-approved
texts teach the religious creationism approach along with scientific
theories, Bunker said Wednesday.

They're "dismayed" that the state doesn't violate the law, yet they're
still qualified to be on the school board?
Are we now able to contact alternate realities?
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the orderliness we find in the perceivable world."
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User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 17 Feb 2005 11:05:35 PM
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:h9ta119btf8sq06us1jtk8mhvqh1j71h3n@4ax.com:

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:31:52 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> said in alt.atheism:

Still, several board members have been dismayed that no state-approved
texts teach the religious creationism approach along with scientific
theories, Bunker said Wednesday.


They're "dismayed" that the state doesn't violate the law, yet they're
still qualified to be on the school board?

You do know what the requirements to become a school board member are,
don't you? Bipedal locomotion and a pulse.
--
Enkidu
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russell
Now playing: Beat Farmers - Are You Drinkin' With Me Jesus
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User: "Jeffrey Turner"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 18 Feb 2005 07:10:34 AM
Enkidu wrote:

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:31:52 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> said in alt.atheism:


Still, several board members have been dismayed that no state-approved
texts teach the religious creationism approach along with scientific
theories, Bunker said Wednesday.


They're "dismayed" that the state doesn't violate the law, yet they're
still qualified to be on the school board?



You do know what the requirements to become a school board member are,
don't you? Bipedal locomotion and a pulse.

In the first place God made idiots. This was for practice.
Then He made school boards. --Mark Twain
--
It is only those who have neither
fired a shot nor heard the shrieks
and groans of the wounded who cry
aloud for blood, more vengeance, more
desolation. War is hell.
--William Tecumseh Sherman
In war, there are no unwounded soldiers.
--Jose Narosky
The urge to save humanity is almost
always a false front for the urge to
rule.
--H.L. Mencken
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 18 Feb 2005 12:52:08 PM
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:10:34 -0500, Jeffrey Turner
<jturner@localnet.com> said in alt.atheism:

In the first place God made idiots. This was for practice.
Then He made school boards. --Mark Twain

That's the first time I've ever disagreed with Twain. I fail to see
any difference between idiots and school boards, except number.
--
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unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
-- Bertrand Russell.
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 18 Feb 2005 12:51:05 PM
On 18 Feb 2005 05:05:35 GMT, Enkidu <zwi6iv402@sneakemail.com> said in
alt.atheism:

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:h9ta119btf8sq06us1jtk8mhvqh1j71h3n@4ax.com:

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:31:52 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> said in alt.atheism:

Still, several board members have been dismayed that no state-approved
texts teach the religious creationism approach along with scientific
theories, Bunker said Wednesday.

They're "dismayed" that the state doesn't violate the law, yet they're
still qualified to be on the school board?

You do know what the requirements to become a school board member are,
don't you? Bipedal locomotion and a pulse.

The first would be discrimination against the handicapped, and I
wasn't aware that the second was required.
--
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User: ""

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 23 Feb 2005 07:38:38 PM
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:31:52 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
no post.
.

User: "RHertz"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 17 Feb 2005 09:12:11 AM
Tennessee is a "Red" state. There is no hope for those places. Consider:

With the Blue States in hand, the Democrats have firm control of;

80% of the country's fresh water,
95% of our pineapple and lettuce,
92% of all fresh fruit production,
93% of the artichoke production,
95% of America's export quality wines,
90% of all cheese production,
90% of the high tech industry,
most of the US coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and
condors, all the Ivy League and Seven Sister schools, plus Harvard,
Yale, Amherst, Stanford,Berkeley, CalTech and MIT.
We can live simply but well.

The Red States, on the other hand, now have to cope with;
88% of all obese Americans (and their projected health care cost spike),
92% of all US mosquitoes,
nearly 100% of all tornadoes,
90% of all hurricanes,
99% of all Southern Baptists,
100% of all Televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University,
Clemson and the University of Georgia. A high price to pay for
controlling the presidency.
Additionally, 38% of those in the Red States believe that Jonah was
actually eaten by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we're
discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44% believe that evolution
is just a theory, 53% that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11
and--most hard to grasp--61% believe that Bush is a person of moral
conviction.

Source:

Dr. Elise M. Fullmer, Associate Professor,

Social Work Program Director
Murray State University
101S Applied Science Building
Murray, KY 42071-4627(270) 762-4627

.
User: "Dale"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 18 Feb 2005 08:20:14 PM
"RHertz" <rhertz314@spamlesscox.net> wrote in message
news:fu2Rd.83979$B95.61287@lakeread02...

Tennessee is a "Red" state. There is no hope for those places. Consider:

Two words: Al Gore.
.

User: "Robert Grumbine"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 18 Feb 2005 10:17:54 AM
In article <fu2Rd.83979$B95.61287@lakeread02>,
RHertz <rhertz314@spamlesscox.net> wrote:

Tennessee is a "Red" state. There is no hope for those places. Consider:

Yet another list that demonstrates that 98% of all statistics are
made up on the spot.
[snip]

The Red States, on the other hand, now have to cope with;
88% of all obese Americans (and their projected health care cost spike),

Nonsense. Obesity rates aren't _that_ disparate, and the populations
involved in 'blue' vs. 'red' are about even. (Plus, if you actually
look, you'll find that some of the 'blue' states are on the high end
of the obesity rates.)

92% of all US mosquitoes,

The Minnesota Air Force begs to differ

nearly 100% of all tornadoes,

Nonsense. Tornado alley runs through OK/TX and up through IL/IN/MI --
two of the latter being 'blue'. Even if you're talking the main body
of tornado alley, it's nowhere close to 100%. Plus, tornadoes do occur
through other parts of the country, including touchdowns close to me
in PA and MD.

99% of all Southern Baptists,

Piffle. SBC is across the country. MD alone, I'm sure, has more than
1% of all US SBC.
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would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences
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User: "Rich Mathers"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 18 Feb 2005 02:56:25 PM
Robert Grumbine wrote:
Snip


99% of all Southern Baptists,



Piffle. SBC is across the country. MD alone, I'm sure, has more than
1% of all US SBC.

Well they deserve more. I'm sure your Governor will agree.
An ex MD resident.


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User: "shane"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 17 Feb 2005 05:24:08 PM
RHertz wrote:

Tennessee is a "Red" state. There is no hope for those places. Consider:


With the Blue States in hand, the Democrats have firm control of;

80% of the country's fresh water,
95% of our pineapple and lettuce,
92% of all fresh fruit production,
93% of the artichoke production,
95% of America's export quality wines,
90% of all cheese production,
90% of the high tech industry,
most of the US coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and
condors, all the Ivy League and Seven Sister schools, plus Harvard,
Yale, Amherst, Stanford,Berkeley, CalTech and MIT.
We can live simply but well.

The Red States, on the other hand, now have to cope with;
88% of all obese Americans (and their projected health care cost spike),
92% of all US mosquitoes,
nearly 100% of all tornadoes,
90% of all hurricanes,
99% of all Southern Baptists,
100% of all Televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University,
Clemson and the University of Georgia. A high price to pay for
controlling the presidency.
Additionally, 38% of those in the Red States believe that Jonah was
actually eaten by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we're
discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44% believe that evolution
is just a theory, 53% that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11
and--most hard to grasp--61% believe that Bush is a person of moral
conviction.


Source:

Dr. Elise M. Fullmer, Associate Professor,

Social Work Program Director
Murray State University
101S Applied Science Building
Murray, KY 42071-4627(270) 762-4627



I'm glad the artichokes are in safe hands. I bet those red staters are
already feeling the loss keenly.
--
shane
The truth will set you free.
.
User: "dudalb"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 17 Feb 2005 10:38:12 PM
Sad really,
As long as the Dems have this kind of comtempt for the Blue States, so long
they will continue to lose elections.
.
User: "RHertz"

Title: Re: Tennessee: Not so fast on evolution 18 Feb 2005 08:28:05 AM
"dudalb" <dalbrech@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:UieRd.2833$kU3.894@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Sad really,
As long as the Dems have this kind of comtempt for the Blue States, so
long
they will continue to lose elections.

Don't you mean the "red" states?
.





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