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Perry believes non-Christians doomed
Governor shares views following sermon; rivals pounce
By Christy Hoppe
The Dallas Morning News
Monday, November 6, 2006 at 8:45 a.m. CST
San Antonio - Gov. Rick Perry, after a God and country
sermon attended by dozens of political candidates Sunday,
said that he agreed with the minister that non-Christians
will be condemned to hell.
"In my faith, that's what it says, and I'm a believer of
that," the governor said.
[Caption] Gov. Rick Perry covered his face in prayer as
Cornerstone Church pastor John Hagee and son Matthew,
right, prayed for the good of the political candidates in
attendance at the service in San Antonio on Sunday.
Erich Schlegel/DMN
Throughout much of the 90-minute service at Cornerstone
Church, Mr. Perry sat on the red-carpeted stage next to
the Rev. John Hagee. Mr. Perry was among about 60 mostly
Republican candidates who accepted the invitation to be
introduced to the megachurch's congregation of about
1,500, plus a radio and TV audience.
"If you live your life and don't confess your sins to God
almighty through the authority of Christ and his blood,
I'm going to say this very plainly, you're going straight
to hell with a nonstop ticket," Mr. Hagee said during a
service interspersed with religious and patriotic videos.
Asked afterward at a political rally whether he agreed
with Mr. Hagee, the governor said he didn't hear anything
that he would take exception to.
He said that he believes in the inerrancy of the Bible
and that those who don't accept Jesus as their savior
will go to hell.
A little later at another stop, the Republican incumbent
clarified his beliefs.
"I don't know that there's any human being that has the
ability to interpret what God and his final decision-
making is going to be," Mr. Perry said. "That's what the
faith says. I understand, and my caveat there is that an
all-knowing God certainly transcends my personal ability
to make that judgment black and white."
He added: "Before we get into Buddha and all the others,
I get a little confused there. But the fact is that we
live in a pluralistic world but our faith is real
personal. And my Christian faith teaches that the way is
through Jesus Christ."
His opponents in the race, campaigning across the state
with just two days to go until Election Day, criticized
the governor, saying his comments were unnecessarily
divisive.
"He doesn't think very differently from the Taliban, does
he?" independent Kinky Friedman said.
Mr. Friedman, a Jew, said Mr. Perry's comment "hits
pretty close to home."
"Being obsessed with who's going to heaven and who's
going to hell is kind of a pathetic waste of time," he
said.
Mr. Friedman, who often expresses admiration for Jesus
and calls himself "a Judeo-Christian," declined to say
whether he believes that accepting Jesus as one's savior
is the only path to salvation.
Carole Keeton Strayhorn, who attended Sunday services at
Harmony Missionary Baptist Church in Fort Worth, said she
disagreed with Mr. Perry.
"There are many ways to heaven. We're all sinners, and
we're all God's children," she said. "God's a uniter."
Democrat Chris Bell said that a state leader should take
more caution.
"God is the only one who can make the decision as to who
gets into the kingdom of heaven," he said.
Mr. Bell declined to say whether he agrees that only
followers of Jesus can go to heaven.
"I'm a Christian," he said. "Rick Perry certainly is
entitled to his beliefs, but when you're in public
office, you need to respect people of all faiths and
denominations."
Asked whether Mr. Perry was wrong, Mr. Bell said: "The
voters will have to decide that."
In his sermon, Mr. Hagee exhorted the congregation to
fight moral weakness, to vote for religious people and
oppose same-sex marriage.
"Quit acting like a Bible-thumping wimp," he said.
He added: "God is the Supreme Court," prompting applause
from the governor.
Mr. Perry was raised in the Methodist church but also
frequently attended the Baptist church in the small West
Texas town of Paint Creek, where he grew up.
For this campaign, he has helped organize the Texas
Restoration Project, in which ministers are encouraged to
get their congregants politically involved in their
communities.
And he has already had to answer some complaints from the
Jewish community. Last year, he invited ministers of all
faiths to stand with him as he signed a law requiring
parental consent for abortion and a constitutional
amendment to ban gay marriage. The Jewish representative
was a member of a messianic group that accepts Jesus as
their savior.
Mr. Perry's predecessor as governor, George W. Bush, took
considerable criticism in 1993 for saying that those who
do not accept Jesus as their personal savior cannot get
to heaven. Later, when running for president, Mr. Bush
issued his regrets to the Anti-Defamation League, saying
his comments had been misunderstood.
Mr. Perry said Sunday that the acceptance of Christ is
what his faith teaches, and he could not abandon that any
more than anyone can pick which of the 10 Commandments
they chose to follow. He would not argue with God's
wisdom, he said.
"I doubt if any one human being can grasp all of his
wisdom and issues of salvations and whether you're going
to get to go to heaven," Mr. Perry said.
Staff writers Robert T. Garrett in West University Place,
Gromer Jeffers Jr. in Eagle Pass and Wayne Slater in
Austin contributed to this report.
More at:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/110606dnTSWperry.351c57c.html
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Perry believes non-Christians doomed
Governor shares views following sermon; rivals
pounce
By Christy Hoppe
The Dallas Morning News
Monday, November 6, 2006 at 8:45 a.m. CST
San Antonio - Gov. Rick Perry, after a God and
country
sermon attended by dozens of political
candidates Sunday,
said that he agreed with the minister that
non-Christians
will be condemned to hell.
"In my faith, that's what it says, and I'm a
believer of
that," the governor said.
Well, he may be right, but Matthew 7:21-23 leads
me to suspect that quite a few self-styled
"Christians" may be sizzling along with them.
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Mike Stone - Peterborough, England
"It is so stupid of modern civilisation to have
given up believing in the devil, when he is its
only explanation"
Ronald Knox
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08 Nov 2006 03:20:29 PM |
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<usenet@mantra.comEc0f9 or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
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Perry believes non-Christians doomed
Anyone who believes non-Christians are doomed are ignorant or stupid or
both.
Governor shares views following sermon; rivals pounce
By Christy Hoppe
The Dallas Morning News
Monday, November 6, 2006 at 8:45 a.m. CST
San Antonio - Gov. Rick Perry, after a God and country
sermon attended by dozens of political candidates Sunday,
said that he agreed with the minister that non-Christians
will be condemned to hell.
"In my faith, that's what it says, and I'm a believer of
that," the governor said.
[Caption] Gov. Rick Perry covered his face in prayer as
Cornerstone Church pastor John Hagee and son Matthew,
right, prayed for the good of the political candidates in
attendance at the service in San Antonio on Sunday.
Erich Schlegel/DMN
Throughout much of the 90-minute service at Cornerstone
Church, Mr. Perry sat on the red-carpeted stage next to
the Rev. John Hagee. Mr. Perry was among about 60 mostly
Republican candidates who accepted the invitation to be
introduced to the megachurch's congregation of about
1,500, plus a radio and TV audience.
"If you live your life and don't confess your sins to God
almighty through the authority of Christ and his blood,
I'm going to say this very plainly, you're going straight
to hell with a nonstop ticket," Mr. Hagee said during a
service interspersed with religious and patriotic videos.
Asked afterward at a political rally whether he agreed
with Mr. Hagee, the governor said he didn't hear anything
that he would take exception to.
He said that he believes in the inerrancy of the Bible
and that those who don't accept Jesus as their savior
will go to hell.
A little later at another stop, the Republican incumbent
clarified his beliefs.
"I don't know that there's any human being that has the
ability to interpret what God and his final decision-
making is going to be," Mr. Perry said. "That's what the
faith says. I understand, and my caveat there is that an
all-knowing God certainly transcends my personal ability
to make that judgment black and white."
He added: "Before we get into Buddha and all the others,
I get a little confused there. But the fact is that we
live in a pluralistic world but our faith is real
personal. And my Christian faith teaches that the way is
through Jesus Christ."
His opponents in the race, campaigning across the state
with just two days to go until Election Day, criticized
the governor, saying his comments were unnecessarily
divisive.
"He doesn't think very differently from the Taliban, does
he?" independent Kinky Friedman said.
Mr. Friedman, a Jew, said Mr. Perry's comment "hits
pretty close to home."
"Being obsessed with who's going to heaven and who's
going to hell is kind of a pathetic waste of time," he
said.
Mr. Friedman, who often expresses admiration for Jesus
and calls himself "a Judeo-Christian," declined to say
whether he believes that accepting Jesus as one's savior
is the only path to salvation.
Carole Keeton Strayhorn, who attended Sunday services at
Harmony Missionary Baptist Church in Fort Worth, said she
disagreed with Mr. Perry.
"There are many ways to heaven. We're all sinners, and
we're all God's children," she said. "God's a uniter."
Democrat Chris Bell said that a state leader should take
more caution.
"God is the only one who can make the decision as to who
gets into the kingdom of heaven," he said.
Mr. Bell declined to say whether he agrees that only
followers of Jesus can go to heaven.
"I'm a Christian," he said. "Rick Perry certainly is
entitled to his beliefs, but when you're in public
office, you need to respect people of all faiths and
denominations."
Asked whether Mr. Perry was wrong, Mr. Bell said: "The
voters will have to decide that."
In his sermon, Mr. Hagee exhorted the congregation to
fight moral weakness, to vote for religious people and
oppose same-sex marriage.
"Quit acting like a Bible-thumping wimp," he said.
He added: "God is the Supreme Court," prompting applause
from the governor.
Mr. Perry was raised in the Methodist church but also
frequently attended the Baptist church in the small West
Texas town of Paint Creek, where he grew up.
For this campaign, he has helped organize the Texas
Restoration Project, in which ministers are encouraged to
get their congregants politically involved in their
communities.
And he has already had to answer some complaints from the
Jewish community. Last year, he invited ministers of all
faiths to stand with him as he signed a law requiring
parental consent for abortion and a constitutional
amendment to ban gay marriage. The Jewish representative
was a member of a messianic group that accepts Jesus as
their savior.
Mr. Perry's predecessor as governor, George W. Bush, took
considerable criticism in 1993 for saying that those who
do not accept Jesus as their personal savior cannot get
to heaven. Later, when running for president, Mr. Bush
issued his regrets to the Anti-Defamation League, saying
his comments had been misunderstood.
Mr. Perry said Sunday that the acceptance of Christ is
what his faith teaches, and he could not abandon that any
more than anyone can pick which of the 10 Commandments
they chose to follow. He would not argue with God's
wisdom, he said.
"I doubt if any one human being can grasp all of his
wisdom and issues of salvations and whether you're going
to get to go to heaven," Mr. Perry said.
Staff writers Robert T. Garrett in West University Place,
Gromer Jeffers Jr. in Eagle Pass and Wayne Slater in
Austin contributed to this report.
More at:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/110606dnTSWperry.351c57c.html
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
http://www.hindu.org
http://www.hindunet.org
The truth about Islam and Muslims
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
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Perry believes non-Christians doomed
Anyone who believes non-Christians are doomed are ignorant or stupid
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Frank Arthur <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote:
Anyone who believes non-Christians are doomed are ignorant or stupid
or both.
And you had to quote over 200 lines to say so?
As a general rule, imagine that the quoting function was broken, and
the only way to quote anything was to retype it. If it's not worth
retyping, it's not worth quoting.
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Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.
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Frank Arthur wrote:
<usenet@mantra.comEc0f9 or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
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Perry believes non-Christians doomed
Anyone who believes non-Christians are doomed are ignorant or stupid or
both.
Corollary : The same would apply to those who believe that Christians
are doomed. Is that not the theme of the posts by some "ingnorant
and stupid" contributors to these newsgroups?
Governor shares views following sermon; rivals pounce
By Christy Hoppe
The Dallas Morning News
Monday, November 6, 2006 at 8:45 a.m. CST
San Antonio - Gov. Rick Perry, after a God and country
sermon attended by dozens of political candidates Sunday,
said that he agreed with the minister that non-Christians
will be condemned to hell.
"In my faith, that's what it says, and I'm a believer of
that," the governor said.
[Caption] Gov. Rick Perry covered his face in prayer as
Cornerstone Church pastor John Hagee and son Matthew,
right, prayed for the good of the political candidates in
attendance at the service in San Antonio on Sunday.
Erich Schlegel/DMN
Throughout much of the 90-minute service at Cornerstone
Church, Mr. Perry sat on the red-carpeted stage next to
the Rev. John Hagee. Mr. Perry was among about 60 mostly
Republican candidates who accepted the invitation to be
introduced to the megachurch's congregation of about
1,500, plus a radio and TV audience.
"If you live your life and don't confess your sins to God
almighty through the authority of Christ and his blood,
I'm going to say this very plainly, you're going straight
to hell with a nonstop ticket," Mr. Hagee said during a
service interspersed with religious and patriotic videos.
Asked afterward at a political rally whether he agreed
with Mr. Hagee, the governor said he didn't hear anything
that he would take exception to.
He said that he believes in the inerrancy of the Bible
and that those who don't accept Jesus as their savior
will go to hell.
A little later at another stop, the Republican incumbent
clarified his beliefs.
"I don't know that there's any human being that has the
ability to interpret what God and his final decision-
making is going to be," Mr. Perry said. "That's what the
faith says. I understand, and my caveat there is that an
all-knowing God certainly transcends my personal ability
to make that judgment black and white."
He added: "Before we get into Buddha and all the others,
I get a little confused there. But the fact is that we
live in a pluralistic world but our faith is real
personal. And my Christian faith teaches that the way is
through Jesus Christ."
His opponents in the race, campaigning across the state
with just two days to go until Election Day, criticized
the governor, saying his comments were unnecessarily
divisive.
"He doesn't think very differently from the Taliban, does
he?" independent Kinky Friedman said.
Mr. Friedman, a Jew, said Mr. Perry's comment "hits
pretty close to home."
"Being obsessed with who's going to heaven and who's
going to hell is kind of a pathetic waste of time," he
said.
Mr. Friedman, who often expresses admiration for Jesus
and calls himself "a Judeo-Christian," declined to say
whether he believes that accepting Jesus as one's savior
is the only path to salvation.
Carole Keeton Strayhorn, who attended Sunday services at
Harmony Missionary Baptist Church in Fort Worth, said she
disagreed with Mr. Perry.
"There are many ways to heaven. We're all sinners, and
we're all God's children," she said. "God's a uniter."
Democrat Chris Bell said that a state leader should take
more caution.
"God is the only one who can make the decision as to who
gets into the kingdom of heaven," he said.
Mr. Bell declined to say whether he agrees that only
followers of Jesus can go to heaven.
"I'm a Christian," he said. "Rick Perry certainly is
entitled to his beliefs, but when you're in public
office, you need to respect people of all faiths and
denominations."
Asked whether Mr. Perry was wrong, Mr. Bell said: "The
voters will have to decide that."
In his sermon, Mr. Hagee exhorted the congregation to
fight moral weakness, to vote for religious people and
oppose same-sex marriage.
"Quit acting like a Bible-thumping wimp," he said.
He added: "God is the Supreme Court," prompting applause
from the governor.
Mr. Perry was raised in the Methodist church but also
frequently attended the Baptist church in the small West
Texas town of Paint Creek, where he grew up.
For this campaign, he has helped organize the Texas
Restoration Project, in which ministers are encouraged to
get their congregants politically involved in their
communities.
And he has already had to answer some complaints from the
Jewish community. Last year, he invited ministers of all
faiths to stand with him as he signed a law requiring
parental consent for abortion and a constitutional
amendment to ban gay marriage. The Jewish representative
was a member of a messianic group that accepts Jesus as
their savior.
Mr. Perry's predecessor as governor, George W. Bush, took
considerable criticism in 1993 for saying that those who
do not accept Jesus as their personal savior cannot get
to heaven. Later, when running for president, Mr. Bush
issued his regrets to the Anti-Defamation League, saying
his comments had been misunderstood.
Mr. Perry said Sunday that the acceptance of Christ is
what his faith teaches, and he could not abandon that any
more than anyone can pick which of the 10 Commandments
they chose to follow. He would not argue with God's
wisdom, he said.
"I doubt if any one human being can grasp all of his
wisdom and issues of salvations and whether you're going
to get to go to heaven," Mr. Perry said.
Staff writers Robert T. Garrett in West University Place,
Gromer Jeffers Jr. in Eagle Pass and Wayne Slater in
Austin contributed to this report.
More at:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/110606dnTSWperry.351c57c.html
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
http://www.hindu.org
http://www.hindunet.org
The truth about Islam and Muslims
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
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08 Nov 2006 08:19:24 PM |
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Frank Arthur wrote:
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Perry believes non-Christians doomed
Anyone who believes non-Christians are doomed are ignorant or stupid or
both.
Or has a different metaphysic than yours or mine. Believing anyone who
doesn't accept Christ is doomed to Hell is the natural consequence of
following certain passages in the Gospels to their logical ends.
Thinking that someone who honestly believes that is acting out of
malice when he says it is intolerant. If someone sincerely believes I
am falling off a cliff I can't blame him for telling me about it.
There IS an attitude among some people who believe this that it makes
them superior and that this will be some sort of personal triumph for
them. Those people can be malicious but the belief itself, like my
personal belief that this is all a set of questions unamenable to
discourse, is not malicious if honestly held.
Will in New Haven
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After a lifelong study of the Buddha's words, I have to regretfully
admit that the Four Noble Truths are probably not
Faster Horses,
Older Whiskey,
Younger Women,
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Frank Arthur wrote:
<usenet@mantra.comEc0f9 or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
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Perry believes non-Christians doomed
Anyone who believes non-Christians are doomed are ignorant or stupid or
both.
How could such a person act for the well being and good of
all? This is exactly why church must be kept separate from
state. These people think the world will end in 50 years
through some rapture. They cannot therefore act for the long
term good of the human race. Screw our energy situation,
screw the environment, etc..., it's not going to be here for
long anyway!
They scare me.
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| Title: Re: TEXAS GOVERNOR PERRY BELIEVES NON-CHRISTIANS DOOMED http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc |
11 Nov 2006 03:02:56 PM |
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In article <wSr4h.12831$GU5.6330@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote:
Perry believes non-Christians doomed
Anyone who believes non-Christians are doomed are ignorant or stupid or
both.
Why should non-Christians be different, in that respect, from anyone
else?
Or are you an extreme optimist on life extension?
--
http://www.daviddfriedman.com/ http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/
Author of _Harald_, a fantasy without magic.
Published by Baen, in bookstores now
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| User: "Amethyst" |
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09 Nov 2006 02:33:48 AM |
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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
Perry believes non-Christians doomed
Governor shares views following sermon; rivals pounce
So what do you want us to do about it?
Obviously, I do not speak for others in RASFF, only myself. Myself, and
all the other Catholics who pray "The Chaplet Of The Divine Mercy". (It
can be prayed using the standard Dominican Rosary.) Many of us do so on
a daily basis. The key phrase of this prayer is "have mercy on us, and
on the whole world". Not just mercy on Catholics, and not just mercy on
Christians. ON THE WHOLE WORLD. Do you have a problem with that?
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| User: "or www.mantra.com/jai Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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10 Nov 2006 01:56:53 AM |
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In article <1163061228.698895.107900@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
"Amethyst" <adoptsoldcats@aol.com> posted:
Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
Perry believes non-Christians doomed
Governor shares views following sermon; rivals pounce
So what do you want us to do about it?
Condemn and leave the destructive cult of Christianity.
Obviously, I do not speak for others in RASFF, only myself. Myself, and
all the other Catholics who pray "The Chaplet Of The Divine Mercy". (It
can be prayed using the standard Dominican Rosary.) Many of us do so on
a daily basis. The key phrase of this prayer is "have mercy on us, and
on the whole world". Not just mercy on Catholics, and not just mercy on
Christians. ON THE WHOLE WORLD. Do you have a problem with that?
Which peace-loving person wouldn't have a problem with destrucive philosophies?
The terrorist mission of Jesus
stated in the Christian bible:
"Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not so
send peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at
variance against his father, and
the daughter against her mother,
and the daughter in law against her
mother in law.
"And a man's foes shall be
they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "Dr. Homilete" |
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10 Nov 2006 09:21:06 AM |
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Johnny Judas Jay "the jumpin' jackass jyotishithead" Maharaj wrote:
In article <1163061228.698895.107900@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
"Amethyst" <adoptsoldcats@aol.com> posted:
Obviously, I do not speak for others in RASFF, only myself. Myself, and
all the other Catholics who pray "The Chaplet Of The Divine Mercy". (It
can be prayed using the standard Dominican Rosary.) Many of us do so on
a daily basis. The key phrase of this prayer is "have mercy on us, and
on the whole world". Not just mercy on Catholics, and not just mercy on
Christians. ON THE WHOLE WORLD. Do you have a problem with that?
Which peace-loving person wouldn't have a problem with destrucive philosophies?
As opposed to peace-loving persons loving the destructive philosophy
expressed by the self-appointed "protectors of Hinduism" aka the VHP?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-09-08-india-explosions_x.htm
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| User: "Marilee J. Layman" |
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09 Nov 2006 05:37:05 PM |
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On 9 Nov 2006 00:33:48 -0800, "Amethyst" <adoptsoldcats@aol.com>
wrote:
Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
Perry believes non-Christians doomed
Governor shares views following sermon; rivals pounce
So what do you want us to do about it?
We want nobody to answer that idiot. He only posts to rasff to stalk
one of our members.
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Marilee J. Layman
http://mjlayman.livejournal.com/
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