raven1 wrote:

On 31 Oct 2006 17:06:34 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

raven1 wrote:

On 31 Oct 2006 01:31:00 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

--sexkitten--
Other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest,
educate our children and, now, die, I think the Republicans have done
a
fine job of getting government out of our personal lives.

Liberals and Democrats are guilty of the same thing, so the statement
should read..

Funny thing is, I didn't even have to read your post to know in
advance that it was going to be the "so's your old man" response that
right-wingers inevitably give when criticized. The right is so
predictable that it would be amusing if it weren't pathetic.

So you would rather live in denial, act bigoted, and be immature than
to actually look at the real world and realize all sides in politics
have their evils.

Of course they do.

Look, you said enough when you said "right-wingers inevitably give when
they criticized". That told me enough about you, so if you don't mind
you are going on the back burner. I don't have time to chat with
people who have such small minds and are so bigoted, there are just too
many people like you who act this way and frankly, I would rather stand
above that and discuss the issues.
So I am not trying to be rude, but you are going to be ignored on this
end. I hope one day you decide to grow up and see things for what they
truly are.

I was once like you, bigoted and ignorant towards the left. I thought
that the republicans had the answer and the democrats were always
wrong. I used to listen to Rush as well. But I grew out of that, I
grew up and I started looking at things for what they are. I hope you
reach that point one day. I realize that the Republicans are just as
screwed up as the Democrats are. I left the Republican party a few
years ago when I was attacked verbally by fellow Republicans because I
openly criticized Bush.

Anyway, you are not interested in that, you said all I needed to know
to realize you are just going to be blind and attack Republicans no
matter what. So like I said, not trying to be rude or ignorant to you
but I am not going to waste time on someone that is going to waste my
time.

raven1 wrote:

On 31 Oct 2006 17:06:34 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

raven1 wrote:

On 31 Oct 2006 01:31:00 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

--sexkitten--
Other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest,
educate our children and, now, die, I think the Republicans have done a
fine job of getting government out of our personal lives.

Liberals and Democrats are guilty of the same thing, so the statement
should read..

Funny thing is, I didn't even have to read your post to know in
advance that it was going to be the "so's your old man" response that
right-wingers inevitably give when criticized. The right is so
predictable that it would be amusing if it weren't pathetic.

So you would rather live in denial, act bigoted, and be immature than
to actually look at the real world and realize all sides in politics
have their evils.

Of course they do.

Look, you said enough when you said "right-wingers inevitably give when
they criticized".

Look, you said enough when you said "right-wingers inevitably give when
they criticized". That told me enough about you, so if you don't mind
you are going on the back burner. I don't have time to chat with
people who have such small minds and are so bigoted,

there are just too
many people like you who act this way and frankly, I would rather stand
above that and discuss the issues.

So I am not trying to be rude,

but you are going to be ignored on this
end. I hope one day you decide to grow up and see things for what they
truly are.

I was once like you,

bigoted and ignorant towards the left. I thought
that the republicans had the answer and the democrats were always
wrong. I used to listen to Rush as well. But I grew out of that,

I
grew up and I started looking at things for what they are. I hope you
reach that point one day. I realize that the Republicans are just as
screwed up as the Democrats are. I left the Republican party a few
years ago when I was attacked verbally by fellow Republicans because I
openly criticized Bush.

Anyway, you are not interested in that, you said all I needed to know
to realize you are just going to be blind and attack Republicans no
matter what. So like I said, not trying to be rude or ignorant to you
but I am not going to waste time on someone that is going to waste my
time.

Look, you said enough when you said "right-wingers inevitably give when
they criticized". That told me enough about you, so if you don't mind
you are going on the back burner. I don't have time to chat with
people who have such small minds and are so bigoted,

there are just too
many people like you who act this way and frankly, I would rather stand
above that and discuss the issues.

So I am not trying to be rude,

but you are going to be ignored on this
end. I hope one day you decide to grow up and see things for what they
truly are.

I was once like you,

bigoted and ignorant towards the left. I thought
that the republicans had the answer and the democrats were always
wrong. I used to listen to Rush as well. But I grew out of that,

I
grew up and I started looking at things for what they are. I hope you
reach that point one day. I realize that the Republicans are just as
screwed up as the Democrats are. I left the Republican party a few
years ago when I was attacked verbally by fellow Republicans because I
openly criticized Bush.

Anyway, you are not interested in that, you said all I needed to know
to realize you are just going to be blind and attack Republicans no
matter what. So like I said, not trying to be rude or ignorant to you
but I am not going to waste time on someone that is going to waste my
time.

Look, you said enough when you said "right-wingers inevitably give when
they criticized". That told me enough about you, so if you don't mind
you are going on the back burner. I don't have time to chat with
people who have such small minds and are so bigoted,

there are just too
many people like you who act this way and frankly, I would rather stand
above that and discuss the issues.

So I am not trying to be rude,

but you are going to be ignored on this
end. I hope one day you decide to grow up and see things for what they
truly are.

I was once like you,

bigoted and ignorant towards the left. I thought
that the republicans had the answer and the democrats were always
wrong. I used to listen to Rush as well. But I grew out of that,

I
grew up and I started looking at things for what they are. I hope you
reach that point one day. I realize that the Republicans are just as
screwed up as the Democrats are. I left the Republican party a few
years ago when I was attacked verbally by fellow Republicans because I
openly criticized Bush.

Anyway, you are not interested in that, you said all I needed to know
to realize you are just going to be blind and attack Republicans no
matter what. So like I said, not trying to be rude or ignorant to you
but I am not going to waste time on someone that is going to waste my
time.

Matt Silberstein wrote:

On 31 Oct 2006 06:37:58 -0800, in alt.atheism , "osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> in
<1162305478.845475.130530@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:

Matt Silberstein wrote:

On 31 Oct 2006 01:31:00 -0800, in alt.atheism , "osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> in
<1162287060.717369.171580@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> wrote:

--sexkitten-- wrote:

http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-oppoz084922734oct08,0,27561.story

[snip]

Other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest,
educate our children and, now, die, I think the Republicans have done a
fine job of getting government out of our personal lives.

Liberals and Democrats are guilty of the same thing, so the statement
should read..

Other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest,
educate our children and, now, die (although I think that part is going
WAY too the extreme), I think the "Politicians" have done a fine job of
getting government out of our personal lives.

When you figure out a way to have a society with no politicians and no
politics let us know. Meanwhile the rest of us will try to deal with
the real world.

Oh? And tell us about the "real" world that only you know and the rest
of us don't know.

I know a fair amount about the contents of my apartment that you don't
know. Is that the kind of thing that interests you? If not, what
relevant information are you asking about?

Apparently you meant to say that you deal with the real world and I am
assuming you meant "I", don't.

So if that's true, tell me what is so different with the world "you"
try to deal with than the world you think I live in.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that what you were trying to say?

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

--sexkitten-- wrote:

http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-oppoz084922734oct08,0,27561.sto
ry

On Sept. 11, 2006, the fifth anniversary of the terror attacks that
devastated our nation, a man crashed his car into a building in
Davenport, Iowa, hoping to blow it up and kill himself in the fire.

No national newspaper, magazine or network newscast reported this
attempted suicide bombing, though an AP wire story was available.
Cable
news (save for MSNBC's Keith Olbermann) was silent about this latest
act
of terrorism in America.

Had the criminal, David McMenemy, been Arab or Muslim, this would have
been headline news for weeks. But since his target was the Edgerton
Women's Health Center, rather than, say, a bank or a police station,
media have not called this terrorism - even after three decades of
extreme violence by anti-abortion fanatics, mostly fundamentalist
Christians who believe they're fighting a holy war.

Since 1977, casualties from this war include seven murders, 17
attempted
murders, three kidnappings, 152 assaults, 305 completed or attempted
bombings and arsons, 375 invasions, 482 stalking incidents, 380 death
threats, 618 bomb threats, 100 acid attacks, and 1,254 acts of
vandalism, according to the National Abortion Federation.

Abortion providers and activists received 77 letters threatening
anthrax
attacks before 9/11, yet the media never considered anthrax threats as
terrorism until after 9/11, when such letters were delivered to
journalists' offices and members of Congress.

After 9/11, Planned Parenthood and other abortion rights groups
received
554 envelopes containing white powder and messages like, "You have
been
exposed to anthrax. ... We are going to kill all of you." They were
signed by the Army of God, a group that hosts Scripture-filled Web
pages
for "Anti-Abortion Heroes of the Faith" including minister Paul Hill,
Michael Griffin and James Kopp, all convicted of murdering abortion
providers, and a convicted clinic bomber, the Rev. Michael Bray.
Another
of their "martyrs," Clayton Waagner, mailed anthrax letters while a
fugitive on the FBI's 10 most wanted list for anti-abortion related
crimes.
--
--sexkitten--
Other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest,
educate our children and, now, die, I think the Republicans have done
a
fine job of getting government out of our personal lives.

Liberals and Democrats are guilty of the same thing, so the statement
should read..

No, you lying turd. It is you right-wing, murderous, fascist wannabes
who resort to violence and terrorism and hate.

Bigotry is a terrible thing, you should work to overcome that problem.

Who is it spying on Americans without warrants?

Do you have something to hide?

Who is it making the federal government ever more secretive?

Why should you know what every move the federal government is making?

Who is it that wants to decide what books you read, what TV you watch,
what news you get?

You

You republicans.

Nope

That's not bigotry. That's fact.

You're a liar. That's fact

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

--sexkitten-- wrote:

http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-oppoz084922734oct08,0,27561.story

On Sept. 11, 2006, the fifth anniversary of the terror attacks that
devastated our nation, a man crashed his car into a building in
Davenport, Iowa, hoping to blow it up and kill himself in the fire.

No national newspaper, magazine or network newscast reported this
attempted suicide bombing, though an AP wire story was available. Cable
news (save for MSNBC's Keith Olbermann) was silent about this latest act
of terrorism in America.

Had the criminal, David McMenemy, been Arab or Muslim, this would have
been headline news for weeks. But since his target was the Edgerton
Women's Health Center, rather than, say, a bank or a police station,
media have not called this terrorism - even after three decades of
extreme violence by anti-abortion fanatics, mostly fundamentalist
Christians who believe they're fighting a holy war.

Since 1977, casualties from this war include seven murders, 17 attempted
murders, three kidnappings, 152 assaults, 305 completed or attempted
bombings and arsons, 375 invasions, 482 stalking incidents, 380 death
threats, 618 bomb threats, 100 acid attacks, and 1,254 acts of
vandalism, according to the National Abortion Federation.

Abortion providers and activists received 77 letters threatening anthrax
attacks before 9/11, yet the media never considered anthrax threats as
terrorism until after 9/11, when such letters were delivered to
journalists' offices and members of Congress.

After 9/11, Planned Parenthood and other abortion rights groups received
554 envelopes containing white powder and messages like, "You have been
exposed to anthrax. ... We are going to kill all of you." They were
signed by the Army of God, a group that hosts Scripture-filled Web pages
for "Anti-Abortion Heroes of the Faith" including minister Paul Hill,
Michael Griffin and James Kopp, all convicted of murdering abortion
providers, and a convicted clinic bomber, the Rev. Michael Bray. Another
of their "martyrs," Clayton Waagner, mailed anthrax letters while a
fugitive on the FBI's 10 most wanted list for anti-abortion related crimes.
--
--sexkitten--
Other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest,
educate our children and, now, die, I think the Republicans have done a
fine job of getting government out of our personal lives.

Liberals and Democrats are guilty of the same thing, so the statement
should read..

No, you lying turd. It is you right-wing, murderous, fascist wannabes
who resort to violence and terrorism and hate.

Bigotry is a terrible thing, you should work to overcome that problem.

Who is it spying on Americans without warrants?

Do you have something to hide?

Who is it making the federal government ever more secretive?

Why should you know what every move the federal government is making?

Who is it that wants to decide what books you read, what TV you watch,
what news you get?

You

You republicans.

Nope