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Religions > Atheism |
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"Desertphile" |
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23 Dec 2005 10:13:52 AM |
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"The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
The following URLs point to the digitalized speach given by Ms. O'Hair
in the early 1970s. I have "remixed" the audio from a very old and
worn-out tape of the talk to remove much of thye noise. In the talk,
Ms. O'Hair castigated atheists and had nothing good to say about
atheists, calling them gutless cowards who would cheerfully sell out
their mothers.
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist1.mp3 11,545,546
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist2.mp3 1,936,037
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist3.mp3 6,888,174
bytes
I will also doigitalized two vinyl records she made and post the URLs
to those files in the very near future.
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| User: "XYZ" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
23 Dec 2005 03:18:07 PM |
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"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135354432.284467.286750@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The following URLs point to the digitalized speach given by Ms. O'Hair
in the early 1970s. I have "remixed" the audio from a very old and
worn-out tape of the talk to remove much of thye noise. In the talk,
Ms. O'Hair castigated atheists and had nothing good to say about
atheists, calling them gutless cowards who would cheerfully sell out
their mothers.
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist1.mp3 11,545,546
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist2.mp3 1,936,037
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist3.mp3 6,888,174
bytes
I will also doigitalized two vinyl records she made and post the URLs
to those files in the very near future.
Have you actually LISTENED to these speeches beyond the first minutes? They
are actually very strongly PRO-atheist, as would be expected.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
24 Dec 2005 05:36:41 PM |
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"XYZ" <allgrownup@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jQZqf.173558$Gd6.142083@pd7tw3no...
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135354432.284467.286750@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The following URLs point to the digitalized speach given by Ms. O'Hair
in the early 1970s. I have "remixed" the audio from a very old and
worn-out tape of the talk to remove much of thye noise. In the talk,
Ms. O'Hair castigated atheists and had nothing good to say about
atheists, calling them gutless cowards who would cheerfully sell out
their mothers.
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist1.mp3 11,545,546
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist2.mp3 1,936,037
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist3.mp3 6,888,174
bytes
I will also doigitalized two vinyl records she made and post the URLs
to those files in the very near future.
Have you actually LISTENED to these speeches beyond the first minutes?
They
are actually very strongly PRO-atheist, as would be expected.
"Pro" anything? Atheist are _against_ everything, for that is their
focus in life. You will never see an atheist advocating, promoting or
supporting, unless it's the demise of theists.
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| User: "ManMadeGod" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
26 Dec 2005 12:27:08 AM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"XYZ" <allgrownup@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jQZqf.173558$Gd6.142083@pd7tw3no...
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135354432.284467.286750@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The following URLs point to the digitalized speach given by Ms. O'Hair
in the early 1970s. I have "remixed" the audio from a very old and
worn-out tape of the talk to remove much of thye noise. In the talk,
Ms. O'Hair castigated atheists and had nothing good to say about
atheists, calling them gutless cowards who would cheerfully sell out
their mothers.
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist1.mp3 11,545,546
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist2.mp3 1,936,037
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist3.mp3 6,888,174
bytes
I will also doigitalized two vinyl records she made and post the URLs
to those files in the very near future.
Have you actually LISTENED to these speeches beyond the first minutes?
They
are actually very strongly PRO-atheist, as would be expected.
"Pro" anything? Atheist are _against_ everything, for that is their
focus in life.
No Frank, Atheists are against denial of the obvious.
You will never see an atheist advocating, promoting or supporting, unless
it's the demise of theists.
Look at the Time "Person of the Year". He's an Atheist that has donated 23
Billion dollars DIRECTLY towards human relief.
You are an a-hole Frank.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
25 Dec 2005 07:47:47 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in news:43aef4bf$0$20941
$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com:
"Pro" anything? Atheist are _against_ everything, for that is their
focus in life. You will never see an atheist advocating, promoting or
supporting, unless it's the demise of theists.
You go first, son.
--
Doc Smartass XP - New Interface, Same Old *****
Keep THOR in THURSDAY!
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
25 Dec 2005 03:00:07 PM |
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In alt.atheism, Pastor Frank
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu>
wrote
on Sun, 25 Dec 2005 07:36:41 +0800
<43aef4bf$0$20941$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com>:
"XYZ" <allgrownup@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jQZqf.173558$Gd6.142083@pd7tw3no...
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135354432.284467.286750@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The following URLs point to the digitalized speach given by Ms. O'Hair
in the early 1970s. I have "remixed" the audio from a very old and
worn-out tape of the talk to remove much of thye noise. In the talk,
Ms. O'Hair castigated atheists and had nothing good to say about
atheists, calling them gutless cowards who would cheerfully sell out
their mothers.
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist1.mp3 11,545,546
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist2.mp3 1,936,037
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist3.mp3 6,888,174
bytes
I will also doigitalized two vinyl records she made and post the URLs
to those files in the very near future.
Have you actually LISTENED to these speeches beyond the first minutes?
They
are actually very strongly PRO-atheist, as would be expected.
"Pro" anything? Atheist are _against_ everything, for that is their
focus in life. You will never see an atheist advocating, promoting or
supporting, unless it's the demise of theists.
Of course we are against everything, including the notion that the
US should be a Christian theocracy, ensuring that everyone worship
the Holy Saint.
:-P
--
#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
25 Dec 2005 07:14:59 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 07:36:41 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"XYZ" <allgrownup@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Have you actually LISTENED to these speeches beyond the first minutes?
They
are actually very strongly PRO-atheist, as would be expected.
"Pro" anything? Atheist are _against_ everything, for that is their
focus in life. You will never see an atheist advocating, promoting or
supporting, unless it's the demise of theists.
You sure hate us, don't you, Frank.
Spewing hatred on your stupid Stick Boy's birthday.
What a duality..... Your god is 'love' and you screech unabashed
vile and scorn at us while we revel in truth and reason. And because
we have the integrity to speak our convictions in an honest and fair
manner, you choose to rebel against intelligent thought.
The reason you're so bitter is because your pathetic attempts to
'convert' us are met with scorn and laughter. You have nothing but the
tired old crap, you're to stupid to think of any convincing argument
and it frustrates you (all christians) into their hate mode.
No doubt at some earlier time in history, you'd be demanding to
place the first torch on the non-believers stake. That would sure
solve your problem with belief.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
26 Dec 2005 10:30:26 AM |
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On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 07:36:41 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"XYZ" <allgrownup@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jQZqf.173558$Gd6.142083@pd7tw3no...
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135354432.284467.286750@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The following URLs point to the digitalized speach given by Ms. O'Hair
in the early 1970s. I have "remixed" the audio from a very old and
worn-out tape of the talk to remove much of thye noise. In the talk,
Ms. O'Hair castigated atheists and had nothing good to say about
atheists, calling them gutless cowards who would cheerfully sell out
their mothers.
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist1.mp3 11,545,546
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist2.mp3 1,936,037
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist3.mp3 6,888,174
bytes
I will also doigitalized two vinyl records she made and post the URLs
to those files in the very near future.
Have you actually LISTENED to these speeches beyond the first minutes?
They
are actually very strongly PRO-atheist, as would be expected.
"Pro" anything? Atheist are _against_ everything, for that is their
focus in life. You will never see an atheist advocating, promoting or
supporting, unless it's the demise of theists.
And all these lies and hatred simply because we do not share a
belief system. Sheesh.
--
Les Hellawell
All year round greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
26 Dec 2005 11:04:01 PM |
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"Les Hellawell" <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:rk50r1t4mdolbrpb48hu612bb4sb3tflsd@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 07:36:41 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"XYZ" <allgrownup@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jQZqf.173558$Gd6.142083@pd7tw3no...
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135354432.284467.286750@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The following URLs point to the digitalized speach given by Ms. O'Hair
in the early 1970s. I have "remixed" the audio from a very old and
worn-out tape of the talk to remove much of thye noise. In the talk,
Ms. O'Hair castigated atheists and had nothing good to say about
atheists, calling them gutless cowards who would cheerfully sell out
their mothers.
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist1.mp3 11,545,546
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist2.mp3 1,936,037
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist3.mp3 6,888,174
bytes
I will also doigitalized two vinyl records she made and post the URLs
to those files in the very near future.
Have you actually LISTENED to these speeches beyond the first minutes?
They
are actually very strongly PRO-atheist, as would be expected.
"Pro" anything? Atheist are _against_ everything, for that is their
focus in life. You will never see an atheist advocating, promoting or
supporting, unless it's the demise of theists.
And all these lies and hatred simply because we do not share a
belief system. Sheesh.
Thanks for proving my point. You are still not advocating, promoting or
supporting. But I bet you want our demise, or at least make god-speak a
crime, for you hate all who don't share your atheist un-beliefs.
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| User: "Virgil" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
28 Dec 2005 01:27:36 PM |
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In article <43b29296$0$20948$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com>,
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Pro" anything? Atheist are _against_ everything, for that is their
focus in life. You will never see an atheist advocating, promoting or
supporting, unless it's the demise of theists.
And all these lies and hatred simply because we do not share a
belief system. Sheesh.
Thanks for proving my point. You are still not advocating, promoting or
supporting. But I bet you want our demise, or at least make god-speak a
crime, for you hate all who don't share your atheist un-beliefs.
What atheists want is merely that 'freedom of religion' allow 'freedom
from religion'. It is your lot who is trying to legislate compliance
with the dictates of your religions.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
30 Dec 2005 11:12:00 PM |
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"Virgil" <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil@COMCAST.com> wrote in message
news:ITSnetNOTcom%23virgil-A928F9.12273628122005@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <43b29296$0$20948$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com>,
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Pro" anything? Atheist are _against_ everything, for that is their
focus in life. You will never see an atheist advocating, promoting or
supporting, unless it's the demise of theists.
And all these lies and hatred simply because we do not share a
belief system. Sheesh.
Thanks for proving my point. You are still not advocating, promoting
or
supporting. But I bet you want our demise, or at least make god-speak a
crime, for you hate all who don't share your atheist un-beliefs.
What atheists want is merely that 'freedom of religion' allow 'freedom
from religion'. It is your lot who is trying to legislate compliance
with the dictates of your religions.
"Freedom FROM religion" indicates you advocate censorship and the
abolition of the constitution. Like the gay parade organizer told us, when
we complained about the lewd displays and demeanour in front to our
children: If you don't like it, don't look nor listen!!!
We are telling atheists the same thing: Don't look nor listen if you
don't like what we have to say or do. It's our right to say what we want,
and to persuade others to our point of view. Considering your proselytizing
for atheism in our pristine Christian NGs, you apparently appropriate the
same right to yourself.
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| User: "xeno" |
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| Title: Theocracy sucks, dude |
01 Jan 2006 10:57:19 AM |
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005, Pastor Frank wrote:
"Freedom FROM religion" indicates you advocate censorship and the
abolition of the constitution.
Oh, so when somebody chooses to be free from *your* religion & may choose
another if any at all, that's "censorship" & a call to abolish the
constitution? You have delusions of grandeur, dude.
Don't look nor listen if you don't like what we have to say or do. It's
our right to say what we want, and to persuade others to our point of
view.
It's your right to be stupid, & say any stupid thing you want, but when
you direct your stupidity at other people, & want to make your stupid *****
social policy, then everybody else has the right to scrutinize & censure
your stupid fucked up *****, dude.
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
02 Jan 2006 11:19:03 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Virgil" <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil@COMCAST.com> wrote in message
news:ITSnetNOTcom%23virgil-A928F9.12273628122005@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <43b29296$0$20948$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com>,
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Pro" anything? Atheist are _against_ everything, for that is their
focus in life. You will never see an atheist advocating, promoting or
supporting, unless it's the demise of theists.
And all these lies and hatred simply because we do not share a
belief system. Sheesh.
Thanks for proving my point. You are still not advocating, promoting
or
supporting. But I bet you want our demise, or at least make god-speak a
crime, for you hate all who don't share your atheist un-beliefs.
What atheists want is merely that 'freedom of religion' allow 'freedom
from religion'. It is your lot who is trying to legislate compliance
with the dictates of your religions.
"Freedom FROM religion"
Religion has nothing at all to do with freedom, just the opposite.
And dragging up minorities such as gays simply shows how lean on the ground you
are for 'reasons' why normal sane humans should start groveling to a non
existant imaginary god.
Cheers and have a Happy Religous New Year, preferably quietly and within four
walls
Bob
indicates you advocate censorship and the
abolition of the constitution. Like the gay parade organizer told us, when
we complained about the lewd displays and demeanour in front to our
children: If you don't like it, don't look nor listen!!!
We are telling atheists the same thing: Don't look nor listen if you
don't like what we have to say or do. It's our right to say what we want,
and to persuade others to our point of view. Considering your proselytizing
for atheism in our pristine Christian NGs, you apparently appropriate the
same right to yourself.
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
28 Dec 2005 08:15:38 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:04:01 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Les Hellawell" <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:rk50r1t4mdolbrpb48hu612bb4sb3tflsd@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 07:36:41 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"XYZ" <allgrownup@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jQZqf.173558$Gd6.142083@pd7tw3no...
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135354432.284467.286750@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The following URLs point to the digitalized speach given by Ms. O'Hair
in the early 1970s. I have "remixed" the audio from a very old and
worn-out tape of the talk to remove much of thye noise. In the talk,
Ms. O'Hair castigated atheists and had nothing good to say about
atheists, calling them gutless cowards who would cheerfully sell out
their mothers.
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist1.mp3 11,545,546
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist2.mp3 1,936,037
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist3.mp3 6,888,174
bytes
I will also doigitalized two vinyl records she made and post the URLs
to those files in the very near future.
Have you actually LISTENED to these speeches beyond the first minutes?
They
are actually very strongly PRO-atheist, as would be expected.
"Pro" anything? Atheist are _against_ everything, for that is their
focus in life. You will never see an atheist advocating, promoting or
supporting, unless it's the demise of theists.
And all these lies and hatred simply because we do not share a
belief system. Sheesh.
Thanks for proving my point. You are still not advocating, promoting or
supporting. But I bet you want our demise, or at least make god-speak a
crime, for you hate all who don't share your atheist un-beliefs.
.
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
28 Dec 2005 08:14:41 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:04:01 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Les Hellawell" <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:rk50r1t4mdolbrpb48hu612bb4sb3tflsd@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 07:36:41 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"XYZ" <allgrownup@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jQZqf.173558$Gd6.142083@pd7tw3no...
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135354432.284467.286750@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The following URLs point to the digitalized speach given by Ms. O'Hair
in the early 1970s. I have "remixed" the audio from a very old and
worn-out tape of the talk to remove much of thye noise. In the talk,
Ms. O'Hair castigated atheists and had nothing good to say about
atheists, calling them gutless cowards who would cheerfully sell out
their mothers.
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist1.mp3 11,545,546
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist2.mp3 1,936,037
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist3.mp3 6,888,174
bytes
I will also doigitalized two vinyl records she made and post the URLs
to those files in the very near future.
Have you actually LISTENED to these speeches beyond the first minutes?
They
are actually very strongly PRO-atheist, as would be expected.
"Pro" anything? Atheist are _against_ everything, for that is their
focus in life. You will never see an atheist advocating, promoting or
supporting, unless it's the demise of theists.
And all these lies and hatred simply because we do not share a
belief system. Sheesh.
Thanks for proving my point. You are still not advocating, promoting or
supporting. But I bet you want our demise, or at least make god-speak a
crime, for you hate all who don't share your atheist un-beliefs.
What I would like to end is lies and hatred. We will never achieve
world peace and harmony as long as people like you continue
to express it and by doing so divide us.
--
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
30 Dec 2005 10:58:02 PM |
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"Les Hellawell" <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:ka75r1p42l7dqjuejskh32e272mrul0i7h@4ax.com...
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:04:01 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Les Hellawell" <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:rk50r1t4mdolbrpb48hu612bb4sb3tflsd@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 07:36:41 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"XYZ" <allgrownup@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jQZqf.173558$Gd6.142083@pd7tw3no...
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135354432.284467.286750@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The following URLs point to the digitalized speach given by Ms.
O'Hair
in the early 1970s. I have "remixed" the audio from a very old and
worn-out tape of the talk to remove much of thye noise. In the talk,
Ms. O'Hair castigated atheists and had nothing good to say about
atheists, calling them gutless cowards who would cheerfully sell out
their mothers.
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist1.mp3 11,545,546
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist2.mp3 1,936,037
bytes
http://holysmoke.org/audio/ohair-consider-the-atheist3.mp3 6,888,174
bytes
I will also doigitalized two vinyl records she made and post the URLs
to those files in the very near future.
Have you actually LISTENED to these speeches beyond the first minutes?
They
are actually very strongly PRO-atheist, as would be expected.
"Pro" anything? Atheist are _against_ everything, for that is their
focus in life. You will never see an atheist advocating, promoting or
supporting, unless it's the demise of theists.
And all these lies and hatred simply because we do not share a
belief system. Sheesh.
Thanks for proving my point. You are still not advocating, promoting
or
supporting. But I bet you want our demise, or at least make god-speak a
crime, for you hate all who don't share your atheist un-beliefs.
What I would like to end is lies and hatred. We will never achieve
world peace and harmony as long as people like you continue
to express it and by doing so divide us.
The "lies" and "hatred" are all yours, for to find fault and hand out
condemnation is atheist doctrine. We are commanded to love our enemies and
do good unto those who persecute us. Few succeed, yet not for lack of
trying. See below
Pastor Frank
THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST
Jesus in Matthew. 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye
for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: (Exodus 21:23-24)
39: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall
smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40: And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let
him have thy cloke also.
41: And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42: Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee
turn not thou away.
43: Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour,
and hate thine enemy.
44: But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do
good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you,
and persecute you;
45: That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for
he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on
the just and on the unjust.
46: For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? Do not even
the publicans the same?
47: And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? Do
not even the publicans so?
48: Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is
perfect.
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His teaching is a humongous step up from Judaism's Exodus 21:23-24
"If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth
for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound,
stripe for stripe."
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| User: "catfish" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
08 Jan 2006 03:54:57 PM |
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The "lies" and "hatred" are all yours, for to find fault and hand out
condemnation is atheist doctrine. We are commanded to love our enemies and
do good unto those who persecute us. Few succeed, yet not for lack of
trying. See below
And history shows what a great job you guys have done of THAT!
Hello - The Spanish Inquisition!
Catfish
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
09 Jan 2006 05:10:28 AM |
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"catfish" <beauregard_t_catfish@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1136683461.397087.296560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
The "lies" and "hatred" are all yours, for to find fault and hand out
condemnation is atheist doctrine. We are commanded to love our enemies and
do good unto those who persecute us. Few succeed, yet not for lack of
trying. See below
And history shows what a great job you guys have done of THAT!
Hello - The Spanish Inquisition!
Catfish
We admit to our shortcomings in repentance and supplication, but will
atheists do the same? What about the mind-boggling death-toll of Christians
at the bloody hands of Russia's atheist Communist minions? Rather than
repenting, I bet you would rather fabricate excuses, wouldn't you?
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| User: "Aaron" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
10 Jan 2006 01:19:36 AM |
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On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:10:28 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"catfish" <beauregard_t_catfish@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1136683461.397087.296560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
The "lies" and "hatred" are all yours, for to find fault and hand out
condemnation is atheist doctrine. We are commanded to love our enemies and
do good unto those who persecute us. Few succeed, yet not for lack of
trying. See below
And history shows what a great job you guys have done of THAT!
Hello - The Spanish Inquisition!
Catfish
We admit to our shortcomings in repentance and supplication, but will
atheists do the same?
Frank, Christians have not yet done that. The Catholic church has not
appologized for legitamizing the Holocaust or even returned the money
that Hitler stole from his victims and gave to the church to make the
Holocaust an official act of the Office of the Inquisition of the
Catholic Church. m Russian Christians have not appologized or repented
for the 20,000,000 Jews executed by Stalin even though it was a Greek
Orthodox people who did the killings. Most Christians go to church on
Sunday and ignore the Sabbath, despite the fact that the Bible defines
this evil action as a capital crime in the Commandments that
Jesus/YHVH gave us, and which Jesus commanded His followers to obey
until Heaven and Earth are destroyed and all things have happened
(Matthew 5:17-19). No, Frank, Christianity's sins against God are
ongoing.
Yes, Atheists are ignorant of God, either willfully, or because they
spoke to somone like you, frank. However, an Atheist could learn
about God, but that won't happen while you are making false
accusations against them. Very few actual Atheists take the time to
attack Christianity; some will retaliate when Christians attack them,
but those Christians are in the wrong to begin with.
As Atheists, they would judge themselves by secular ethics, most
notably the deontological sytem invented by Emmaluel Kant in "The
Metaphysics of Morality." This leaves the bar much lower than the
standard set in the Bible.
What about the mind-boggling death-toll of Christians
at the bloody hands of Russia's atheist Communist minions?
That is your fantasy.
Russia was never Communist. A country must first become a total
Democracy (the legislative brach of government replaced by all people
voting on every issue) before it can become Communist. Communism does
not require Atheism. The USSR never outlawed religion; it did
regulate every institution to ensure that it was not used to promote a
"counter revolution." This lead to varying degrees of oppression, but
the Jews suffered the worst primarily because the Christian Soviets
were anti-Semitic. The Greek Orthodox had their realestate taken away
because the Czar had used government funds to build cathedrals.
Rather than
repenting, I bet you would rather fabricate excuses, wouldn't you?
Frank, even those Soviets who were Atheist were dedicated to a
right-wing political party which was at fault for the human rights
violations in the USSR. There were Christians who were just as
dedicated to the Soviet system. In the US, our government lied about
the Soviets, but did not challenge the Soviet lie about being
Communist, or even Socialist.
Frank, you really should stop demanding that other people appologize
for things that they had nothing to do with. This is especially true
when most christians go to church on Sunday and ignore the Sabbath,
despite the fact that the Bible defines this evil action as a capital
crime in the Commandments that Jesus/YHVH gave us.
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
10 Jan 2006 05:33:09 AM |
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:19:36 -0500, Aaron <anon@home.net> wrote:
Yes, Atheists are ignorant of God,
And you are not?
If you know what this claimed god of yours is, why not
present the actual evidence upon which this knowledge
is based so we have at least at least a better
understanding of what this claimed entity is. After all
you cannot form a belief something exists without at
least knowing what it is.
Now is your great chance to convince us all. It is quite
easy. All you need do is present to us the source of your
evidence about this god*.
If you agree that all you know about this god is based just
on belief then, of course, you are just as ignorant as we
are and just guessing. Even the very existence of this
god is, as you know, nothing more than a claim based
on nothing but mere belief and empty blind 'faith'. That
is a very weak position indeed.
You can, of course built an elaborate picture of what you
think this god is but you know as well as I do that tells
you nothing about what this god actully is even assuming
the claim it exists is true.
*Note, quoting the Bible will not impress anybody here.
The opinions and assertions by person or persons
unknown from times even more ignorant and superstitous
than our own can hardly be considered evidence
The floor is yours. Please insert verifiable and observable
evidence below -
--
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
09 Jan 2006 08:15:14 PM |
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On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:10:28 +0800, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
We admit to our shortcomings in repentance and supplication, but will
atheists do the same? What about the mind-boggling death-toll of Christians
at the bloody hands of Russia's atheist Communist minions? Rather than
repenting, I bet you would rather fabricate excuses, wouldn't you?
Are you saying christians were singled out for extermination by a
communist government? Like they were murdered 'because' they were
christians?
I'd like to see the evidence for that.
But... of course.... you're only being a Sock Puppet to promote
superstition. It's wonderful to be persecuted when you're 'right'.
As a former, admitted atheist, Frank... How do you reconcile such
blind hatred for something you once were?
I won't hold my breath for an answer. You run away from honest
confrontation. As always.
The BAAWA Warlord is the Brass Ring and you can't handle it.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "catfish" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
11 Jan 2006 06:10:29 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"catfish" <beauregard_t_catfish@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1136683461.397087.296560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
The "lies" and "hatred" are all yours, for to find fault and hand out
condemnation is atheist doctrine. We are commanded to love our enemies and
do good unto those who persecute us. Few succeed, yet not for lack of
trying. See below
And history shows what a great job you guys have done of THAT!
Hello - The Spanish Inquisition!
Catfish
We admit to our shortcomings in repentance and supplication, but will
atheists do the same? What about the mind-boggling death-toll of Christians
at the bloody hands of Russia's atheist Communist minions? Rather than
repenting, I bet you would rather fabricate excuses, wouldn't you?
I am not a communist. Nor am I an atheist. I have nothing to repent
regarding the *alleged* death of Christians in the Soviet Union.
Catfish
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
14 Jan 2006 04:26:46 AM |
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"catfish" <beauregard_t_catfish@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1137024629.172315.212510@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"catfish" <beauregard_t_catfish@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1136683461.397087.296560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
The "lies" and "hatred" are all yours, for to find fault and hand out
condemnation is atheist doctrine. We are commanded to love our enemies
and
do good unto those who persecute us. Few succeed, yet not for lack of
trying. See below
And history shows what a great job you guys have done of THAT!
Hello - The Spanish Inquisition!
Catfish
We admit to our shortcomings in repentance and supplication, but will
atheists do the same? What about the mind-boggling death-toll of
Christians
at the bloody hands of Russia's atheist Communist minions? Rather than
repenting, I bet you would rather fabricate excuses, wouldn't you?
I am not a communist. Nor am I an atheist. I have nothing to repent
regarding the *alleged* death of Christians in the Soviet Union.
Catfish
Insofar you, nor most theists do anything much to prevent persecution of
believers worldwide, nor commemorate the slaughter of Christians by
Communist atheist minions, we are all guilty of the sin of omission and in
need of repentance. Or do you approve of Germans denying any responsibility
for the *alleged* Holocaust, because most were not directly involved?
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
14 Jan 2006 03:11:56 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
we are all guilty of the sin of omission
Woops! Only believers in "sin" are capable of "sinning." Do leave
your intellectual and moral superiors out of your insane delusions.
---
George W. Bush is a Christian. Get over it!
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| User: "Virgil" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
14 Jan 2006 05:37:34 PM |
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In article <43c95160$0$6679$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com>,
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
Insofar you, nor most theists do anything much to prevent persecution of
believers worldwide, nor commemorate the slaughter of Christians by
Communist atheist minions, we are all guilty of the sin of omission and in
need of repentance. Or do you approve of Germans denying any responsibility
for the *alleged* Holocaust, because most were not directly involved?
Do you accuse the vast majority of German's, who were born postwar, to
have been guilty of the sins of their fathers? Only those who might have
actively opposed the holocaust could possibly carry any guilt for it.
Get real!
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| User: "xeno" |
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| Title: Theocracy sucks, dude |
14 Jan 2006 03:15:35 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006, Pastor Frank wrote:
I am not a communist. Nor am I an atheist. I have nothing to repent
regarding the *alleged* death of Christians in the Soviet Union.
Catfish
Insofar you, nor most theists do anything much to prevent persecution of
believers worldwide
Dude, the world is not responsbile for your inflated sense of persecution.
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| User: "Virgil" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
01 Jan 2006 01:50:13 PM |
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In article <43b7ab3a$0$10241$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com>,
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
The "lies" and "hatred" are all yours, for to find fault and hand out
condemnation is atheist doctrine. We are commanded to love our enemies and
do good unto those who persecute us.
Madalyn Murray O'Hair did not murder any Xtians, but was murdered by
them!
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
04 Jan 2006 05:51:20 AM |
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"Virgil" <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil@COMCAST.com> wrote in message
news:ITSnetNOTcom%23virgil-BFAA67.12501301012006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <43b7ab3a$0$10241$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com>,
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
The "lies" and "hatred" are all yours, for to find fault and hand out
condemnation is atheist doctrine. We are commanded to love our enemies
and
do good unto those who persecute us.
Madalyn Murray O'Hair did not murder any Xtians, but was murdered by
them!
"Murdered"? Last I heard dear Madelyn had absconded with the National
Atheist Association's funds, never to be heard of, nor seen again.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
06 Jan 2006 11:52:11 PM |
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In <43bdb231$0$28937$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com>, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Virgil" <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil@COMCAST.com> wrote in message
news:ITSnetNOTcom%23virgil-BFAA67.12501301012006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <43b7ab3a$0$10241$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com>, "Pastor
Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
The "lies" and "hatred" are all yours, for to find fault and hand
out
condemnation is atheist doctrine. We are commanded to love our enemies
and
do good unto those who persecute us.
Madalyn Murray O'Hair did not murder any Xtians, but was murdered by
them!
"Murdered"? Last I heard dear Madelyn had absconded with the National
Atheist Association's funds, never to be heard of, nor seen again.
She was murdered and you're a liar.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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So much for that "storm of the century" excuse
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3992495C
NO held hostage by oil corporations,
ANWR demanded as ransom
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J5C92195C
White House balks at spending on US citizens,
needs more billions for Iraq!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D93595C
(Tell me again how much we spent bailing out the S&Ls?)
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Virgil" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
06 Jan 2006 01:08:27 AM |
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In article <43bdb231$0$28937$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com>,
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Virgil" <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil@COMCAST.com> wrote in message
news:ITSnetNOTcom%23virgil-BFAA67.12501301012006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <43b7ab3a$0$10241$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com>,
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
The "lies" and "hatred" are all yours, for to find fault and hand out
condemnation is atheist doctrine. We are commanded to love our enemies
and
do good unto those who persecute us.
did not murder any Xtians, but was murdered by
them!
"Murdered"? Last I heard dear Madelyn had absconded with the National
Atheist Association's funds, never to be heard of, nor seen again.
Then "Pastor Frank must be selectively deaf as well ***** selectively
blind.
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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| Title: Re: "The atheist is gutless!" -- Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
05 Jan 2006 11:30:53 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Virgil" <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil@COMCAST.com> wrote in message
news:ITSnetNOTcom%23virgil-BFAA67.12501301012006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <43b7ab3a$0$10241$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com>,
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
The "lies" and "hatred" are all yours, for to find fault and hand out
condemnation is atheist doctrine. We are commanded to love our enemies
and
do good unto those who persecute us.
Madalyn Murray O'Hair did not murder any Xtians, but was murdered by
them!
"Murdered"? Last I heard dear Madelyn had absconded with the National
Atheist Association's funds, never to be heard of, nor seen again.
You heard incorrectly. She and her immediate family were found in barrels.
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