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The Bible vs The Episcopal Church. 6-29-2006. |
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
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| Title: Re: The Bible vs The Episcopal Church. 6-29-2006. |
29 Jun 2006 07:54:31 PM |
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<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1151618861.351615.119590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves.
Hey! They wouldn't be *grey* wolves, perchance, would they?
By their fruits you will know them.
Well if you mean 'prophesying' that our beloved country is going to hurl
itself into a 2nd American Civil War because of bible humpers like you, I
damn *hope* I'm a false prophet. That would all depend on the actions of the
religious right though, wouldn't it now? It's all in the lap of the Jesus
people -- and nowhere else.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Not the last time *I* checked. Do right-wing evangelical Christians have a
brain in their head? No. But I suppose you wouldn't agree with that, eh'?
Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit.
So you would agree that patently lying, deceitful and dishonest Christian
priests, pastors and preachers could not *possibly* bear 'good fruit', could
they now? Their kind can only produce fruit of the rotten variety -- at
least that's what you seem to suggest.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
Well let's just hope you're right for a change. Evil (even if it is dressed
in a white collar or addressing 2000 people in a 'Mega-Church) will *always*
be 'trumped' by 'Good'. It always has, and always will.
Greywolf, your ravenous 'false' prophet, signing off.
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| User: "taiki" |
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| Title: Re: The Bible vs The Episcopal Church. 6-29-2006. |
30 Jun 2006 04:02:46 AM |
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wrote:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
So a church elects a woman, and a fag and you can't handle it?
-taiki
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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29 Jun 2006 10:08:33 PM |
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wrote:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
The false prophecy of Jesus
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The outrageous failed prophecy of Jesus
that he'd preside over the end of the world
and judgment day itself 1930 years ago.
William C. Barwell 3-16-05
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Deuteronomy 18:21-2
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we
know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the
LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass,
that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken,
but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously:
thou shalt not be afraid of him.
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Jesus prophesied he'd preside over the end of
the world (Matthew 24:3) and judgment day itself,
(Matthew 16:27-8), he claims he will "come in his
kingdom"and "reward all men according to their
acts".
This is expanded on in Matthew 25:31-45.
He will come in the glory of his angels,
he will be "the King". He will ascend to his
"throne of glory" and gather the nations.
He will sort the "sheep" from the "goats" the
good from the evil. Good will be rewarded with
eternal life in heaven, evil will depart into
"everlasting fire prepared for the devil and
his apostles" (Matthew 25:41)
This is what he means by come in his kingdom.
He will literally be "the King" of the world,
And will preside over judgment day itself.
(Matthew 25:31-34), (John 5:23, 5:27).
When? Matthew 16:27-8 has Jesus assuring his
listeners that "some standing here" will live
to see this all happen. See also Mark 9:1.
Matthew 24-5 is one long pericope. A narrative.
Here we are assured that this will happen in
"this generation", Matthew 24:36, see also Luke
21:32, and Mark 13:30.
This generation will see the sun and moon fail,
the stars fall from heaven. Then Jesus will
descend with his fathers angels and "clouds
of heaven". "This generation" is to see this.
Again, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21.
He tells the high priest at Jerusalem that he
too will see Jesus descend with "clouds of heaven"
the same phrase he tells us "this generation"
is to see in Matthew 24:36. See also Mark 14:62.
This phrase "clouds of heaven" of Matthew 26:64
and Mark 14:62 thus pins down the happenings of
Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 to be seen in
the times of "this generation" as being seen by
then living high priest, and "Some standing here".
Not some generation 1930 years later.
The "high priest", "this generation", "Some
standing here" did not see these things happen
as prophesied.
No religion has ever failed as spectacularly in
its'prophecies' as has Christianity.
This also puts an end to Revelations, all of that
too was to have taken place some 1930 years ago.
Christianity thus is incredibly irrelevant to
anything, having utterly failed in the main claim
of Jesus, when none of this happened as
prophesied,
by Jesus, alleged god himself according to many
trinitarian Christians.
If Jesus, supposed son of god was so wrong on
this, his main claim, he isn't going to be right
on anything else. This is the most obvious failed
'prophet' and the most failed religion of all
time.
And its finally time to admit these facts.
(End)
The verses quoted.
Matthew 16:27-8
27 "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of
his Father with his angels; and then he shall
reward every man according to his works.
28 "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing
here, which shall not taste of death, till they
see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Mark 9
1 And he said unto them, "Verily I say unto you,
That there be some of them that stand here, which
shall not taste of death, till they have seen the
kingdom of God come with power.
Matthew 25:30
31 "When the Son of man shall come in his glory,
and all the holy angels with him, then shall he
sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 "And before him shall be gathered all nations:
and he shall separate them one from another, as a
shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 "And he shall set the sheep on his right hand,
but the goats on the left.
34 "Then shall the King say unto them on his right
hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the
kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of
the world:
41 "Then shall he say also unto them on the left
hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting
fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those
days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall
not give her light, and the stars shall fall from
heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be
shaken:
30 "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of
man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of
the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man
coming in the clouds of heaven with power and
great glory.
31 "And he shall send his angels with a great
sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together
his elect from the four winds, from one end of
heaven to the other.
32 "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his
branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye
know that summer is nigh:
33 "So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these
things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35 "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words
shall not pass away.
Matthew 26
64 Jesus saith unto him, "Thou hast said:
nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye
see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of
power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Mark 14
62 And Jesus said, "I am: and ye shall see the Son
of man sitting on the right hand of power, and
coming in the clouds of heaven.
Mark 13
24 "But in those days, after that tribulation, the
sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give
her light,
25 "And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the
powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 "And then shall they see the Son of man coming
in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 "And then shall he send his angels, and shall
gather together his elect from the four winds,
from the uttermost part of the earth to the
uttermost part of heaven.
28 "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her
branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye
know that summer is near:
29 "So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these
things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at
the doors.
30 "Verily I say unto you, that this generation
shall not pass, till all these things be done.
31 "Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words
shall not pass away.
Luke 21
25 "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in
the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth
distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and
the waves roaring;
26 "Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for
looking after those things which are coming on the
earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 "And then shall they see the Son of man coming
in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 "And when these things begin to come to pass,
then look up, and lift up your heads; for your
redemption draweth nigh.
29 And he spake to them a parable; "Behold the fig
tree, and all the trees;
30 "When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of
your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
31 "So likewise ye, when ye see these things come
to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh
at hand.
32 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
33 "Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words
shall not pass away.
Deuteronomy 18
18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among
their brethren, like unto thee, and will put
my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto
them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will
not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in
my name, I will require it of him.
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a
word in my name, which I have not commanded him to
speak, or that shall speak in the name of other
gods, even that prophet shall die.
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we
know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the
LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass,
that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken,
but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously:
thou shalt not be afraid of him.
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Join the anti-willful-religious-stupidity brigade today.
You will be glad you did.
Our motto: Slap! "Wake up stupid!"
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Mike" |
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| Title: Re: The Bible vs The Episcopal Church. 6-29-2006. |
30 Jun 2006 01:56:38 AM |
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wrote:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
Just out of curiosity, what the hell does this have to do with the
Episcopal church?
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: The Bible vs The Episcopal Church. 6-29-2006. |
29 Jun 2006 06:14:55 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, poured fuel on
the fire with the following:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
Have a look in the mirror, padre.
Regards,
Josef
The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the
urge to rule it.
-- H.L. Mencken
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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29 Jun 2006 05:40:31 PM |
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In article <1151618861.351615.119590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
So by this criterion we can safely dispose of prayer when
it comes to defeating such things as smallpox, cholera,
syphilis, measles, and malaria, and embrace science instead?
-- cary
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| User: "leo" |
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29 Jun 2006 06:00:34 PM |
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Cary Kittrell ha escrito:
In article <1151618861.351615.119590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "vivap=
adrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
So by this criterion we can safely dispose of prayer when
it comes to defeating such things as smallpox, cholera,
syphilis, measles, and malaria, and embrace science instead?
-- cary
This stupid padre pio does not realized that all religious people are
false prophets.
Even taking the NT into account they are nothing but false prophets.
They are not even Christians, because they do not do any miracles. So
they have not even a small particle of faith.
Look,
=B7 Mk.16:17-18 "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my
name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it
shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall
recover."
=B7
=B7 Lk.10:19 "Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and
scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by
any means hurt you."
Do they perform any of these wonders? No! So they are all fake
prophets.
Did Jesus said any word against faggots? No! Only Paul said something
vague against faggots. So have we to trust Paul? No, for he did not
performed any miracles. at least I did not see him doing any. There
is a saying about the bite of snake but this is a false story. I do
not beleive it.
They are all a bunch of Mississippi swindlers, even if some of they are
living in Europe.
Leopoldo
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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29 Jun 2006 06:05:28 PM |
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In article <1151622034.155206.318820@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> "leo" <leopoldo.perdomo@gmail.com> writes:
Cary Kittrell ha escrito:
In article <1151618861.351615.119590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "vivap=
adrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
So by this criterion we can safely dispose of prayer when
it comes to defeating such things as smallpox, cholera,
syphilis, measles, and malaria, and embrace science instead?
-- cary
This stupid padre pio
Oh. I alwasy read that nym as a unit, and did not
notice the pieces. Padre pio indeed (I'm from Tucson)
does not realized that all religious people are
false prophets.
Even taking the NT into account they are nothing but false prophets.
They are not even Christians, because they do not do any miracles. So
they have not even a small particle of faith.
Look,
=B7 Mk.16:17-18 "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my
name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it
shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall
recover."
=B7
=B7 Lk.10:19 "Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and
scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by
any means hurt you."
Do they perform any of these wonders? No! So they are all fake
prophets.
An interesting point, that.
Did Jesus said any word against faggots? No! Only Paul said something
vague against faggots. So have we to trust Paul? No, for he did not
performed any miracles. at least I did not see him doing any. There
is a saying about the bite of snake but this is a false story. I do
not beleive it.
They are all a bunch of Mississippi swindlers, even if some of they are
living in Europe.
Leopoldo
-- cary
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| User: "Crusader" |
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29 Jun 2006 09:56:56 PM |
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If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood
shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
1.. Leviticus
2..
3.. Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
4.. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
5.. Deuteronomy
6..
7.. Women are not to wear men's clothing -- it's an "abomination unto the
Lord." 22:5
8.. God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the house of
the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites and
dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Read your bible and stop your lies
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e81mbo$1h7$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
In article <1151622034.155206.318820@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> "leo"
<leopoldo.perdomo@gmail.com> writes:
Cary Kittrell ha escrito:
In article <1151618861.351615.119590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
"vivap=
adrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut
down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
So by this criterion we can safely dispose of prayer when
it comes to defeating such things as smallpox, cholera,
syphilis, measles, and malaria, and embrace science instead?
-- cary
This stupid padre pio
Oh. I alwasy read that nym as a unit, and did not
notice the pieces. Padre pio indeed (I'm from Tucson)
does not realized that all religious people are
false prophets.
Even taking the NT into account they are nothing but false prophets.
They are not even Christians, because they do not do any miracles. So
they have not even a small particle of faith.
Look,
=B7 Mk.16:17-18 "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my
name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it
shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall
recover."
=B7
=B7 Lk.10:19 "Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and
scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by
any means hurt you."
Do they perform any of these wonders? No! So they are all fake
prophets.
An interesting point, that.
Did Jesus said any word against faggots? No! Only Paul said something
vague against faggots. So have we to trust Paul? No, for he did not
performed any miracles. at least I did not see him doing any. There
is a saying about the bite of snake but this is a false story. I do
not beleive it.
They are all a bunch of Mississippi swindlers, even if some of they are
living in Europe.
Leopoldo
-- cary
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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29 Jun 2006 10:54:00 PM |
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"Crusader" <white@xyz.com> wrote in message
news:Up0pg.27198$gv2.16028@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them
have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
1.. Leviticus
2..
3.. Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
4.. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
5.. Deuteronomy
6..
7.. Women are not to wear men's clothing -- it's an "abomination unto the
Lord." 22:5
8.. God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the house of
the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites and
dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Read your bible and stop your lies
'All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was
made' - John 1:3.
I wonder who the 'him' is, that is being referred to here? Donald Duck? As
for lies, try reading Mt. 27:50-53. It's absolutely *delicious*.
Greywolf
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| User: "leo" |
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30 Jun 2006 06:55:04 AM |
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Crusader ha escrito:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood
shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
1.. Leviticus
2..
3.. Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
4.. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
5.. Deuteronomy
6..
7.. Women are not to wear men's clothing -- it's an "abomination unto the
Lord." 22:5
8.. God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the house of
the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites and
dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Read your bible and stop your lies
So, crusader, do you base your position on the truth of Deuteronomy?
Well, are you ready to propose to actual people in public and TV that
God had ordered us to kill all the faggots by stoning them to death?
Are you crusading and lobbing senators to enact laws to punish faggots
by killing them with stones?
I am impatient to see you lobbing in Congress in favor of the criminal
laws of Jehovah in public. I know you are already on it, but tell us
all. We want to know it.
Don't be shy, speak freely! We are living in a free society! isn't it?
Go forward! Show clear to all the people you are nothing but a bunch
of criminals!
Speak up, loud and clear! I want the people to be aware how criminal
are your purposes in life!
Tell us loud and clear that you want to enslave all Americans and the
rest of the world to a god of goatherders!
Tell us that you want to chain us to the religious believes of some
shepherds that lived in Palestine three thousand years ago!
Go forward! Tell all the people what you want!
Most of the people do not read the Bible, so they ignore what a bunch
of criminals, what sort of genocides and exterminators of children were
the followers of Jehovah.
Enlightnes us all!
We want to know the truth! Do not hide it, show it to the people for
all to know it. Teach us the Bible!
Leopoldo
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| User: "leo" |
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30 Jun 2006 01:19:34 AM |
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Crusader ha escrito:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood
shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
1.. Leviticus
2..
3.. Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
4.. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
5.. Deuteronomy
6..
7.. Women are not to wear men's clothing -- it's an "abomination unto the
Lord." 22:5
8.. God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the house of
the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites and
dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Read your bible and stop your lies
There is a lot abominations in the OT.
By example to eat lobster or shrimps
I cannot feel obligued by the supersticions of goatherders from 3
thousand years ago.
Leopoldo
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30 Jun 2006 01:30:54 AM |
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Crusader wrote:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood
shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
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The bible is lying *****, the old testament doubly so.
Steve
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30 Jun 2006 04:56:07 AM |
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Crusader wrote:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood
shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
1.. Leviticus
2..
3.. Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
4.. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
5.. Deuteronomy
6..
7.. Women are not to wear men's clothing -- it's an "abomination unto the
Lord." 22:5
8.. God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the house of
the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites and
dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Read your bible and stop your lies
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30 Jun 2006 04:57:46 AM |
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Nosterill wrote:
Crusader wrote:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood
shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
1.. Leviticus
2..
3.. Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
4.. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
5.. Deuteronomy
6..
7.. Women are not to wear men's clothing -- it's an "abomination unto the
Lord." 22:5
8.. God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the house of
the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites and
dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Read your bible and stop your lies
Whoops! Pressed the wrong button. Please ignore that - yes all of it.
Nothing to do with me :-(
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30 Jun 2006 04:59:57 AM |
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Crusader wrote:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood
shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
1.. Leviticus
2..
3.. Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
4.. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
5.. Deuteronomy
6..
7.. Women are not to wear men's clothing -- it's an "abomination unto the
Lord." 22:5
8.. God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the house of
the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites and
dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Read your bible and stop your lies
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30 Jun 2006 03:13:48 PM |
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In article <Up0pg.27198$gv2.16028@bignews3.bellsouth.net> "Crusader" <white@xyz.com> writes:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood
shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
1.. Leviticus
2..
3.. Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
4.. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
5.. Deuteronomy
6..
7.. Women are not to wear men's clothing -- it's an "abomination unto the
Lord." 22:5
8.. God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the house of
the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites and
dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Read your bible and stop your lies
Leviticus, Deutoronomy... I take it you also support the death penalty
for mouthy kids who talk back, women who make it with their neighbor's
husband, and anyone who mows his lawn on Sunday?
And do you think Red Lobster and Long John Silvers should be firebombed,
or merely forced to shut down by legal means?
-- cary
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e81mbo$1h7$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
In article <1151622034.155206.318820@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> "leo"
<leopoldo.perdomo@gmail.com> writes:
Cary Kittrell ha escrito:
In article <1151618861.351615.119590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
"vivap=
adrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut
down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
So by this criterion we can safely dispose of prayer when
it comes to defeating such things as smallpox, cholera,
syphilis, measles, and malaria, and embrace science instead?
-- cary
This stupid padre pio
Oh. I alwasy read that nym as a unit, and did not
notice the pieces. Padre pio indeed (I'm from Tucson)
does not realized that all religious people are
false prophets.
Even taking the NT into account they are nothing but false prophets.
They are not even Christians, because they do not do any miracles. So
they have not even a small particle of faith.
Look,
=B7 Mk.16:17-18 "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my
name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it
shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall
recover."
=B7
=B7 Lk.10:19 "Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and
scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by
any means hurt you."
Do they perform any of these wonders? No! So they are all fake
prophets.
An interesting point, that.
Did Jesus said any word against faggots? No! Only Paul said something
vague against faggots. So have we to trust Paul? No, for he did not
performed any miracles. at least I did not see him doing any. There
is a saying about the bite of snake but this is a false story. I do
not beleive it.
They are all a bunch of Mississippi swindlers, even if some of they are
living in Europe.
Leopoldo
-- cary
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:e840ls$aqi$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
In article <Up0pg.27198$gv2.16028@bignews3.bellsouth.net> "Crusader"
<white@xyz.com> writes:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them
have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood
shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
1.. Leviticus
2..
3.. Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
4.. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
5.. Deuteronomy
6..
7.. Women are not to wear men's clothing -- it's an "abomination unto
the
Lord." 22:5
8.. God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the house of
the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites
and
dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Read your bible and stop your lies
Leviticus, Deutoronomy... I take it you also support the death penalty
for mouthy kids who talk back,
That would be a good place to start.
women who make it with their neighbor's
husband,
Absolutely.
and anyone who mows his lawn on Sunday?
Ah, peace and quiet for a change.
And do you think Red Lobster and Long John Silvers should be firebombed,
or merely forced to shut down by legal means?
Legal means will suffice.
It did before the blue laws were repealed.
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
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05 Jul 2006 10:42:23 AM |
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Leviticus, Deutoronomy... I take it you also support
the death penalty for mouthy kids who talk back,
That would be a good place to start.
A good place to start commitment procedures for you.
women who make it with their neighbor's
husband,
Absolutely.
And you believe so strongly in this that you frequently
lobby elected officials, organize demonstrations and
otherwise chat it up in person with your fellow citizens
in public?
Or is it too much fun as a fantasy to ruin it
by actually trying to make it happen?
and anyone who mows his lawn on Sunday?
Ah, peace and quiet for a change.
Make sure the police are trained to make
Sunday arrests quietly so as not to disturb you.
And do you think Red Lobster and Long John Silvers
should be firebombed, or merely forced to shut down
by legal means?
Legal means will suffice.
It did before the blue laws were repealed.
Ike
And the repeal of blue laws means that
legal means will no longer be tolerated.
Now what?
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30 Jun 2006 04:35:47 PM |
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Cary Kittrell ha escrito:
In article <Up0pg.27198$gv2.16028@bignews3.bellsouth.net> "Crusader" <white@xyz.com> writes:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood
shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
1.. Leviticus
2..
3.. Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
4.. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
5.. Deuteronomy
6..
7.. Women are not to wear men's clothing -- it's an "abomination unto the
Lord." 22:5
8.. God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the house of
the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites and
dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Read your bible and stop your lies
Leviticus, Deutoronomy... I take it you also support the death penalty
for mouthy kids who talk back, women who make it with their neighbor's
husband, and anyone who mows his lawn on Sunday?
And do you think Red Lobster and Long John Silvers should be firebombed,
or merely forced to shut down by legal means?
-- cary
I was being sarcastic, dear. I supposed they would not dare to propose
these laws for real in these times. But perhaps I am wrong. One
cannot subestimate the moronity of fundies.
Leopoldo
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01 Jul 2006 06:20:33 AM |
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"leo" <leopoldo.perdomo@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151703347.695863.164340@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Cary Kittrell ha escrito:
In article <Up0pg.27198$gv2.16028@bignews3.bellsouth.net> "Crusader"
<white@xyz.com> writes:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them
have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood
shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
1.. Leviticus
2..
3.. Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
4.. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
5.. Deuteronomy
6..
7.. Women are not to wear men's clothing -- it's an "abomination unto
the
Lord." 22:5
8.. God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the house
of
the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites
and
dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Read your bible and stop your lies
Leviticus, Deutoronomy... I take it you also support the death penalty
for mouthy kids who talk back, women who make it with their neighbor's
husband, and anyone who mows his lawn on Sunday?
And do you think Red Lobster and Long John Silvers should be firebombed,
or merely forced to shut down by legal means?
-- cary
I was being sarcastic, dear.
Too bad. They were all good ideas.
I supposed they would not dare to propose
these laws for real in these times.
Oh, these "times" are real, alright, and getting worse, because all these
laws that once existed in these United States were dismantled one by one.
But perhaps I am wrong.
Pretty much, yes.
One
cannot subestimate the moronity of fundies.
Nor the stupidity of the wicked: There is no such word as "moronity,"
"moron," nor "subestimate."
Ike
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www.eickleberrybooks.com
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The Tree of Life (from "The Character Map")
The Beloved
Faith Hope
Righteousness Judgment Compassion
Courage Integrity Diligence Grace
Discipline of Thought Service Desire Decision and Belief
Glory Honor Power Wisdom Riches Blessing Strength w/Thanksgiving
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01 Jul 2006 01:01:15 PM |
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H.E. Eickleberry, Jr. ha escrito:
"leo" <leopoldo.perdomo@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151703347.695863.164340@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Cary Kittrell ha escrito:
In article <Up0pg.27198$gv2.16028@bignews3.bellsouth.net> "Crusader"
<white@xyz.com> writes:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them
have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood
shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
1.. Leviticus
2..
3.. Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
4.. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
5.. Deuteronomy
6..
7.. Women are not to wear men's clothing -- it's an "abomination unto
the
Lord." 22:5
8.. God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the house
of
the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites
and
dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Read your bible and stop your lies
Leviticus, Deutoronomy... I take it you also support the death penalty
for mouthy kids who talk back, women who make it with their neighbor's
husband, and anyone who mows his lawn on Sunday?
And do you think Red Lobster and Long John Silvers should be firebombed,
or merely forced to shut down by legal means?
-- cary
I was being sarcastic, dear.
Too bad. They were all good ideas.
I supposed they would not dare to propose
these laws for real in these times.
Oh, these "times" are real, alright, and getting worse, because all these
laws that once existed in these United States were dismantled one by one.
But perhaps I am wrong.
Pretty much, yes.
One
cannot subestimate the moronity of fundies.
Nor the stupidity of the wicked: There is no such word as "moronity,"
"moron," nor "subestimate."
Ike
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www.eickleberrybooks.com
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The Tree of Life (from "The Character Map")
The Beloved
Faith Hope
Righteousness Judgment Compassion
Courage Integrity Diligence Grace
Discipline of Thought Service Desire Decision and Belief
Glory Honor Power Wisdom Riches Blessing Strength w/Thanksgiving
He Who Loves
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I take notice on "moronity", I should have to write "moronic".
But you got the meaning, won't you?
Leopoldo
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"leo" <leopoldo.perdomo@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151776875.335444.167620@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
H.E. Eickleberry, Jr. ha escrito:
"leo" <leopoldo.perdomo@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151703347.695863.164340@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Cary Kittrell ha escrito:
In article <Up0pg.27198$gv2.16028@bignews3.bellsouth.net> "Crusader"
<white@xyz.com> writes:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of
them
have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
blood
shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
1.. Leviticus
2..
3.. Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
4.. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
5.. Deuteronomy
6..
7.. Women are not to wear men's clothing -- it's an "abomination
unto
the
Lord." 22:5
8.. God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the
house
of
the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord."
Sodomites
and
dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Read your bible and stop your lies
Leviticus, Deutoronomy... I take it you also support the death
penalty
for mouthy kids who talk back, women who make it with their neighbor's
husband, and anyone who mows his lawn on Sunday?
And do you think Red Lobster and Long John Silvers should be
firebombed,
or merely forced to shut down by legal means?
-- cary
I was being sarcastic, dear.
Too bad. They were all good ideas.
I supposed they would not dare to propose
these laws for real in these times.
Oh, these "times" are real, alright, and getting worse, because all these
laws that once existed in these United States were dismantled one by one.
But perhaps I am wrong.
Pretty much, yes.
One
cannot subestimate the moronity of fundies.
Nor the stupidity of the wicked: There is no such word as "moronity,"
"moron," nor "subestimate."
Ike
--
www.eickleberrybooks.com
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The Tree of Life (from "The Character Map")
The Beloved
Faith Hope
Righteousness Judgment Compassion
Courage Integrity Diligence Grace
Discipline of Thought Service Desire Decision and Belief
Glory Honor Power Wisdom Riches Blessing Strength w/Thanksgiving
He Who Loves
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Remove X from address to reply
I take notice on "moronity", I should have to write "moronic".
But you got the meaning, won't you?
And you mine?
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
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In article <1151703347.695863.164340@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "leo" <leopoldo.perdomo@gmail.com> writes:
Cary Kittrell ha escrito:
In article <Up0pg.27198$gv2.16028@bignews3.bellsouth.net> "Crusader" <white@xyz.com> writes:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood
shall be upon them. -- Lev.20:13
1.. Leviticus
2..
3.. Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
4.. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
5.. Deuteronomy
6..
7.. Women are not to wear men's clothing -- it's an "abomination unto the
Lord." 22:5
8.. God says not be bring any *****, sodomite, or dog into the house of
the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites and
dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Read your bible and stop your lies
Leviticus, Deutoronomy... I take it you also support the death penalty
for mouthy kids who talk back, women who make it with their neighbor's
husband, and anyone who mows his lawn on Sunday?
And do you think Red Lobster and Long John Silvers should be firebombed,
or merely forced to shut down by legal means?
-- cary
I was being sarcastic, dear.
Oop, my bad. It's difficult to distinguish parody of fundamentalism
from the real thing. Which says something, I suppose.
I supposed they would not dare to propose
these laws for real in these times. But perhaps I am wrong. One
cannot subestimate the moronity of fundies.
Leopoldo
-- cary
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1151618861.351615.119590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
So by this criterion we can safely dispose of prayer when
it comes to defeating such things as smallpox, cholera,
syphilis, measles, and malaria, and embrace science instead?
-- cary
Doubtful. Is disease the only thing that's wrong with this world?
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30 Jun 2006 06:16:53 PM |
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In article <1151707836.894755.216290@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1151618861.351615.119590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
So by this criterion we can safely dispose of prayer when
it comes to defeating such things as smallpox, cholera,
syphilis, measles, and malaria, and embrace science instead?
-- cary
Doubtful. Is disease the only thing that's wrong with this world?
Nope, but I specified "disposing" of prayer-as-a-means-of-
treating-disease.
-- cary
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01 Jul 2006 01:06:03 PM |
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Cary Kittrell ha escrito:
In article <1151707836.894755.216290@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1151618861.351615.119590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
So by this criterion we can safely dispose of prayer when
it comes to defeating such things as smallpox, cholera,
syphilis, measles, and malaria, and embrace science instead?
-- cary
Doubtful. Is disease the only thing that's wrong with this world?
Nope, but I specified "disposing" of prayer-as-a-means-of-
treating-disease.
-- cary
Pray treatment should be mandatory for fundy Christians.
Atheist and light Christians, can go to physicians and hospitals; get
surgery, medicines and vacinations.
Leopoldo
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1151707836.894755.216290@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1151618861.351615.119590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
So by this criterion we can safely dispose of prayer when
it comes to defeating such things as smallpox, cholera,
syphilis, measles, and malaria, and embrace science instead?
-- cary
Doubtful. Is disease the only thing that's wrong with this world?
Nope, but I specified "disposing" of prayer-as-a-means-of-
treating-disease.
-- cary
Disposal of prayer would bring you something worse than any disease.
Better to enter Heaven with a disease than to enter Gehenna with
perfect health.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: The Bible vs The Episcopal Church. 6-29-2006. |
05 Jul 2006 01:29:01 PM |
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In article <1151810382.103549.158420@a14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1151707836.894755.216290@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1151618861.351615.119590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
So by this criterion we can safely dispose of prayer when
it comes to defeating such things as smallpox, cholera,
syphilis, measles, and malaria, and embrace science instead?
-- cary
Doubtful. Is disease the only thing that's wrong with this world?
Nope, but I specified "disposing" of prayer-as-a-means-of-
treating-disease.
-- cary
Disposal of prayer would bring you something worse than any disease.
Better to enter Heaven with a disease than to enter Gehenna with
perfect health.
So I see we're getting totally away from your original "by their fruits you will
know them" argument now. Medicine cures disease now; prayer does...
well, does something not at all apparent, but it's still important anyhow.
-- cary
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| User: "Gospel Bretts" |
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| Title: Re: The Bible vs The Episcopal Church. 6-29-2006. |
01 Jul 2006 10:32:32 PM |
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On 1 Jul 2006 20:19:42 -0700, "vivapadrepio@aol.com"
<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1151707836.894755.216290@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1151618861.351615.119590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
So by this criterion we can safely dispose of prayer when
it comes to defeating such things as smallpox, cholera,
syphilis, measles, and malaria, and embrace science instead?
-- cary
Doubtful. Is disease the only thing that's wrong with this world?
Nope, but I specified "disposing" of prayer-as-a-means-of-
treating-disease.
-- cary
Disposal of prayer would bring you something worse than any disease.
Better to enter Heaven with a disease than to enter Gehenna with
perfect health.
By all means, then, please feel free to pray whenever you get sick
instead of seeking medical attention. Do you in fact practice what you
preach?
--
Gospel Bretts
aa Atheist #2262
Fundy Xian Atheist
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whosoever would believe in Him would believe all sorts of
other ridiculous nonsense as well.
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| User: "Father Paul" |
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| Title: Re: The Bible vs The Episcopal Church. 6-29-2006. |
05 Jul 2006 05:40:25 PM |
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What Church do you hail from. If it falls in to one of these type
Protestant groups. Then you fall right in with the Episcopal Church
vivapadrepio@aol.com wrote:
Matthew 7: 15-20.
False Prophets.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just
so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad
fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down
and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.
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