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The Bishop Who Was Once Envious Of The Office Of Caeasar |
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Date: 13 Apr 2005 18:58:22 -0700
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Subject: Re: The Roman Church Is A Multinational Church Not A Universal
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duke wrote:
On 11 Apr 2005 13:03:51 -0700, wrote:
As we all know, there is a difference between multinational and
universal.
On the ground of that difference, we are going to assess the
claim by some catholics that the papal Church is the
universal Church built by Jesus on the day of Penthecost
in Jerusalem, and see If that claim has any validity.
First of all, what is the meaning of the word Universal?
According to the dictionary, universal means....
To Be Continued
Not-Easily-Duped
That's an easy one, easily duped. It means "one".
It has absolutely nothing to do with "multinational".
It means "One" and you think that "One" was centralized in Rome where
every ritual should be manufactured and exported to the 4 cornerS
of the world? this is what a multinational does.
But here the one UNIVERSAL Church that God had in mind:
"When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in
one place. And suddenly a sound came from heaven like the rush of a
mighty
wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting, and there
appeared to them tongues AS of fire,distributed and resting on each
one of them. And they all filled with the Holy Spirit and began
to speak in other tongues, as the Spirit GAVE THEM utterance.
Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem devout men every nation- GOD
MYSTERIOUSLY BUILDING A UNIVERSAL CHURCH- under heaven.
and at this sound the multitude came together, and they were
bewildered,
because each one heard them speaking in his own language.
And they were amazed and wondered, saying," are not those who are
speaking Galileans? and how is it that we hear each of us in his
own native language? Parthians and Medes and Elamites and resident
of Mosopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia
and Pamphylia, Egypt and the part of Lybia belonging to Cyrene and
visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and ARABIANS,
we hear them telling in our own language the mighty works of God."
Act 2:1-11
The conclusion that we draw from that event is that anyone who
was present went back to his native nation with the Gospel of
Jesus the Christ evangelizing his own people in the mystery of Christ,
with his own national Church.
THIS IS THE one UNIVERSAL CHURCH built in Jerusalem but present in
everynation because of the event at the pentecost.
Yet the Roman Church tries to play smarter by internationalizing
their Church and their ritual and then turn around to declare it
a universal Church. This is called
playing on the ignorance of the faithfuls,
and it is a theological DECEPTION.
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| Title: Re: The Bishop Who Was Once Envious Of The Office Of Caeasar |
14 Apr 2005 11:36:44 PM |
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***Wrong NG for this anti-papist stuff.
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Date: 13 Apr 2005 18:58:22 -0700
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Subject: Re: The Roman Church Is A Multinational Church Not A Universal
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duke wrote:
On 11 Apr 2005 13:03:51 -0700, wrote:
As we all know, there is a difference between multinational and
universal.
On the ground of that difference, we are going to assess the
claim by some catholics that the papal Church is the
universal Church built by Jesus on the day of Penthecost
in Jerusalem, and see If that claim has any validity.
First of all, what is the meaning of the word Universal?
According to the dictionary, universal means....
To Be Continued
Not-Easily-Duped
That's an easy one, easily duped. It means "one".
It has absolutely nothing to do with "multinational".
It means "One" and you think that "One" was centralized in Rome where
every ritual should be manufactured and exported to the 4 cornerS
of the world? this is what a multinational does.
But here the one UNIVERSAL Church that God had in mind:
"When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in
one place. And suddenly a sound came from heaven like the rush of a
mighty
wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting, and there
appeared to them tongues AS of fire,distributed and resting on each
one of them. And they all filled with the Holy Spirit and began
to speak in other tongues, as the Spirit GAVE THEM utterance.
Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem devout men every nation- GOD
MYSTERIOUSLY BUILDING A UNIVERSAL CHURCH- under heaven.
and at this sound the multitude came together, and they were
bewildered,
because each one heard them speaking in his own language.
And they were amazed and wondered, saying," are not those who are
speaking Galileans? and how is it that we hear each of us in his
own native language? Parthians and Medes and Elamites and resident
of Mosopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia
and Pamphylia, Egypt and the part of Lybia belonging to Cyrene and
visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and ARABIANS,
we hear them telling in our own language the mighty works of God."
Act 2:1-11
The conclusion that we draw from that event is that anyone who
was present went back to his native nation with the Gospel of
Jesus the Christ evangelizing his own people in the mystery of Christ,
with his own national Church.
THIS IS THE one UNIVERSAL CHURCH built in Jerusalem but present in
everynation because of the event at the pentecost.
Yet the Roman Church tries to play smarter by internationalizing
their Church and their ritual and then turn around to declare it
a universal Church. This is called
playing on the ignorance of the faithfuls,
and it is a theological DECEPTION.
.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The Bishop Who Was Once Envious Of The Office Of Caeasar |
15 Apr 2005 02:30:40 AM |
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AGGreen wrote:
***Wrong NG for this anti-papist stuff.
Hey Greecky I know you are getting closer to Papacy now than before,
why are you moving away from your religious root loser?
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Date: 13 Apr 2005 18:58:22 -0700
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Subject: Re: The Roman Church Is A Multinational Church Not A
Universal
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duke wrote:
On 11 Apr 2005 13:03:51 -0700, wrote:
As we all know, there is a difference between multinational and
universal.
On the ground of that difference, we are going to assess the
claim by some catholics that the papal Church is the
universal Church built by Jesus on the day of Penthecost
in Jerusalem, and see If that claim has any validity.
First of all, what is the meaning of the word Universal?
According to the dictionary, universal means....
To Be Continued
Not-Easily-Duped
That's an easy one, easily duped. It means "one".
It has absolutely nothing to do with "multinational".
It means "One" and you think that "One" was centralized in Rome
where
every ritual should be manufactured and exported to the 4 cornerS
of the world? this is what a multinational does.
But here the one UNIVERSAL Church that God had in mind:
"When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in
one place. And suddenly a sound came from heaven like the rush of
a
mighty
wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting, and
there
appeared to them tongues AS of fire,distributed and resting on
each
one of them. And they all filled with the Holy Spirit and began
to speak in other tongues, as the Spirit GAVE THEM utterance.
Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem devout men every nation- GOD
MYSTERIOUSLY BUILDING A UNIVERSAL CHURCH- under heaven.
and at this sound the multitude came together, and they were
bewildered,
because each one heard them speaking in his own language.
And they were amazed and wondered, saying," are not those who are
speaking Galileans? and how is it that we hear each of us in his
own native language? Parthians and Medes and Elamites and resident
of Mosopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia
and Pamphylia, Egypt and the part of Lybia belonging to Cyrene and
visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and
ARABIANS,
we hear them telling in our own language the mighty works of God."
Act 2:1-11
The conclusion that we draw from that event is that anyone who
was present went back to his native nation with the Gospel of
Jesus the Christ evangelizing his own people in the mystery of
Christ,
with his own national Church.
THIS IS THE one UNIVERSAL CHURCH built in Jerusalem but present in
everynation because of the event at the pentecost.
Yet the Roman Church tries to play smarter by internationalizing
their Church and their ritual and then turn around to declare it
a universal Church. This is called
playing on the ignorance of the faithfuls,
and it is a theological DECEPTION.
.
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