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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 09 Sep 2005 08:51:23 PM
Object: The cloned baby with two mothers
This borders on the obscene. Mad scientists, and there is no other
proper term for them, have taken humanity to the brink of insanity.
Before you looney liberals start howling, ask yourself; just how many
of these designer babies will be black or gay? The answer is none,
zilch, nada. This evil that began with Dolly the Sheep is providing the
technology for the elimination of "undesirables" through attrition.
Pure evil.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/womenfamily.html?in_article_id=361816&in_page_id=1799
The cloned baby with two mothers
Pro-life campaigners have condemned a controversial decision to grant
permission to UK scientists to create a human embryo that will have
genetic material from two mothers.
The Newcastle University team will transfer the pro-nuclei - the
components of a human embryo nucleus - made by one man and woman into
an unfertilised egg from another woman.
The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies. However, pro-life
campaigners said the decision by genetics watchdog the Human
Fertilisation and Embryology Authority to approve the research
represented an unacceptable step towards the creation of "designer
babies".
.

User: "Josef Balluch"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 01:57:58 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
....

Before you looney liberals start howling, ask yourself; just how many
of these designer babies will be black or gay?

< chuckle! >
And before the Retarded Right starts howling, they should actually read the
article they are commenting on.
"Professor John Burn, from the Department of Clinical Medical Sciences at
Newcastle University, stressed that yesterday's announcement would not lead
to "designer babies". "
....


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/womenfamily.html?in_ar
ticle_id=361816&in_page_id=1799
As the article makes clear, this procedure is not cloning. The embryo has a
normal complement of DNA received from a male and a female, and the DNA is
unchanged by the procedure. As pointed out, the purpose of the procedure is
to prevent transmission of mitochondrial disease. IOW, medical science is
once again finding ways to correct the flaws of unintelligent design.
Regards,
Josef
.

User: "bob young"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 06:48:05 AM
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J Young wrote:

This borders on the obscene. Mad scientists, and there is no other
proper term for them, have taken humanity to the brink of insanity.
Before you looney liberals start howling, ask yourself; just how many
of these designer babies will be black or gay? The answer is none,
zilch, nada. This evil that began with Dolly the Sheep is providing the
technology for the elimination of "undesirables" through attrition.
Pure evil.

Your god has been producing grossly deformed human fetus for as long
as memory serves us.
These deformed fetus are so horrible the mother never gets to see it,
one in around 140,000 births.
Of course it is not your god is it, Him being imagined and all,
but it is quirks of evolutionary design that produce them.
From the sane branch of the family..
Bob Young
Humanist Brit.
Hong kong



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/womenfamily.html?in_article_id=361816&in_page_id=1799

The cloned baby with two mothers

Pro-life campaigners have condemned a controversial decision to grant
permission to UK scientists to create a human embryo that will have
genetic material from two mothers.

The Newcastle University team will transfer the pro-nuclei - the
components of a human embryo nucleus - made by one man and woman into
an unfertilised egg from another woman.

The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies. However, pro-life
campaigners said the decision by genetics watchdog the Human
Fertilisation and Embryology Authority to approve the research
represented an unacceptable step towards the creation of "designer
babies".

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<p>J Young wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>This borders on the obscene. Mad scientists, and
there is no other
<br>proper term for them, have taken humanity to the brink of insanity.
<br>Before you looney liberals start howling, ask yourself; just how many
<br>of these designer babies will be black or gay? The answer is none,
<br>zilch, nada. This evil that began with Dolly the Sheep is providing
the
<br>technology for the elimination of "undesirables" through attrition.
<br>Pure evil.</blockquote>
Your god has been producing grossly deformed human fetus for as long
<br>as memory serves us.
<p>These deformed fetus are so horrible the mother never gets to see it,
<br>one in around 140,000 births.
<p>Of course it is not your god is it, Him being imagined and all,
<br>but it is quirks of evolutionary design that produce them.
<p>From the sane branch of the family..
<p>Bob Young
<br>Humanist Brit.
<br>Hong kong
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/womenfamily.html?in_article_id=361816&in_page_id=1799">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/womenfamily.html?in_article_id=361816&amp;in_page_id=1799</a>
<p>The cloned baby with two mothers
<p>Pro-life campaigners have condemned a controversial decision to grant
<br>permission to UK scientists to create a human embryo that will have
<br>genetic material from two mothers.
<p>The Newcastle University team will transfer the pro-nuclei - the
<br>components of a human embryo nucleus - made by one man and woman into
<br>an unfertilised egg from another woman.
<p>The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
<br>genetic diseases on to their unborn babies. However, pro-life
<br>campaigners said the decision by genetics watchdog the Human
<br>Fertilisation and Embryology Authority to approve the research
<br>represented an unacceptable step towards the creation of "designer
<br>babies".</blockquote>
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User: "Josef Balluch"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 09 Sep 2005 09:23:22 PM
In a message sent 'round the world, J Young poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
....

This evil that began with Dolly the Sheep is providing the
technology for the elimination of "undesirables" through attrition.
Pure evil.

LOL !!!
Whooda thunk we would see the day when you would be opposed to the
"elimination of undesirables".
Scraping the bottom of the barrel, Mr. Troll?
Regards,
Josef
I can calculate the motions of the heavenly bodies, but not the
madness of people.
-- Isaac Newton
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 01:10:55 AM
In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.

What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.
User: "1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 02:01:47 AM
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-072A12.23105509092005@news.giganews.com...

In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?

Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 05:44:21 AM
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:01:47 GMT in
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, 1st Century Apostolic
Traditionalist ("1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist"
<nospamatall@add.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic


"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-072A12.23105509092005@news.giganews.com...

In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.

As presumably is all disease, and hence striving to cure disease is to
strive to thwart God's will.
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 09:19:31 AM
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:44:21 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<d065i1llam5e2eq0qgggj788ug3ed0p1s9@4ax.com> wrote:



On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:01:47 GMT in
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, 1st Century Apostolic
Traditionalist ("1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist"
<nospamatall@add.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic




"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.


As presumably is all disease, and hence striving to cure disease is to
strive to thwart God's will.

There is that pesky god again, but still no proof it even exists.
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 09:45:20 AM
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:19:31 -0400 in alt.atheism, Attila (Attila
<prochoice@here.now>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:44:21 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<d065i1llam5e2eq0qgggj788ug3ed0p1s9@4ax.com> wrote:



On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:01:47 GMT in
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, 1st Century Apostolic
Traditionalist ("1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist"
<nospamatall@add.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic




"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.


As presumably is all disease, and hence striving to cure disease is to
strive to thwart God's will.


There is that pesky god again, but still no proof it even exists.

True, but I've never let something as minor as that stand between me
and some sarcasm.
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 02:03:10 PM
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:45:20 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<g3s5i19injf6ns0t9f9choh05f2r64n5ij@4ax.com> wrote:



On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:19:31 -0400 in alt.atheism, Attila (Attila
<prochoice@here.now>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism



On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:44:21 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<d065i1llam5e2eq0qgggj788ug3ed0p1s9@4ax.com> wrote:



On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:01:47 GMT in
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, 1st Century Apostolic
Traditionalist ("1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist"
<nospamatall@add.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic




"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.


As presumably is all disease, and hence striving to cure disease is to
strive to thwart God's will.


There is that pesky god again, but still no proof it even exists.


True, but I've never let something as minor as that stand between me
and some sarcasm.

Of course not!
.

User: "Louise Mallard"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 10:06:24 AM
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:45:20 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:



On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:19:31 -0400 in alt.atheism, Attila (Attila
<prochoice@here.now>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism



On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:44:21 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<d065i1llam5e2eq0qgggj788ug3ed0p1s9@4ax.com> wrote:



On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:01:47 GMT in
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, 1st Century Apostolic
Traditionalist ("1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist"
<nospamatall@add.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic




"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-072A12.23105509092005@news.giganews.com...

In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.


As presumably is all disease, and hence striving to cure disease is to
strive to thwart God's will.


There is that pesky god again, but still no proof it even exists.


True, but I've never let something as minor as that stand between me
and some sarcasm.

<smiles>
Attila needs to lighten up, some...
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 02:04:05 PM
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:06:24 -0400, Louise Mallard
<readmydigs@booknut.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<jft5i19nia6h5sl7fn7ck65lmgofl127bj@4ax.com> wrote:


As presumably is all disease, and hence striving to cure disease is to
strive to thwart God's will.


There is that pesky god again, but still no proof it even exists.


True, but I've never let something as minor as that stand between me
and some sarcasm.


<smiles>

Attila needs to lighten up, some...

Never let your guard down. That is all they are waiting for.
.
User: "Louise Mallard"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 02:18:53 PM
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:04:05 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:06:24 -0400, Louise Mallard
<readmydigs@booknut.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<jft5i19nia6h5sl7fn7ck65lmgofl127bj@4ax.com> wrote:



As presumably is all disease, and hence striving to cure disease is to
strive to thwart God's will.


There is that pesky god again, but still no proof it even exists.


True, but I've never let something as minor as that stand between me
and some sarcasm.


<smiles>

Attila needs to lighten up, some...


Never let your guard down. That is all they are waiting for.

The religion nuts? Dear, I am immuned to them, tough times or not.
Therion Ware appears a good chap and one who's the least interested in
converting anybody to religion, for obvious reasons. No need to worry
there.
.





User: "bob young"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 06:57:10 AM
Therion Ware wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:01:47 GMT in
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, 1st Century Apostolic
Traditionalist ("1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist"
<nospamatall@add.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic


"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.


As presumably is all disease, and hence striving to cure disease is to
strive to thwart God's will.

Better we all die of The Plague then.
What was it the religious idiots said at the time "It is god punishing us
for our sins"
That was before they discovered that The Plague was carried by fleas on the
back of rats
.
User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 07:10:54 AM
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Therion Ware wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:01:47 GMT in
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, 1st Century Apostolic
Traditionalist ("1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist"
<nospamatall@add.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic


"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.


As presumably is all disease, and hence striving to cure disease is to
strive to thwart God's will.


Better we all die of The Plague then.

What was it the religious idiots said at the time "It is god punishing us
for our sins"

That was before they discovered that The Plague was carried by fleas on
the
back of rats

Wouldn't it make more sense to make the origins of the disease more
mysterious?
.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 10:13:02 PM
kathryn wrote:

"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4322C99A.54F09176@netvigator.com...



Therion Ware wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:01:47 GMT in
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, 1st Century Apostolic
Traditionalist ("1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist"
<nospamatall@add.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic


"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.


As presumably is all disease, and hence striving to cure disease is to
strive to thwart God's will.


Better we all die of The Plague then.

What was it the religious idiots said at the time "It is god punishing us
for our sins"

That was before they discovered that The Plague was carried by fleas on
the
back of rats

Wouldn't it make more sense to make the origins of the disease more
mysterious?

I reckon there are still a lot that are,
but we will get 'em in the end,
without an imaginary 'Lord'
.




User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 07:04:49 AM
"1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist" <nospamatall@add.com> wrote in
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.

I'll be sure to tell my gran that god wanted her to have huntingdon's
disease
.
User: "Louise Mallard"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 07:13:17 AM
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:04:49 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:


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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.



I'll be sure to tell my gran that god wanted her to have huntingdon's
disease

I have to wonder whether this cretin would feel the same if his
beloved kin were suffering from egregious genetic anamolies.
.
User: "Boy Toy"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 10:22:37 AM
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:13:17 -0400, Louise Mallard
<readmydigs@booknut.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.



I'll be sure to tell my gran that god wanted her to have huntingdon's
disease


I have to wonder whether this cretin would feel the same if his
beloved kin were suffering from egregious genetic anamolies.

You would be amazed at the depth of the brainwashing some of these
poor fools have been subjected to. The people who will toss their
kids out if they are gay are precisely the people who will let them
suffer and die of disease while they "pray" to their imaginary diety.
.
User: "Louise Mallard"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 10:32:05 AM
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:22:37 GMT, Boy Toy <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com>
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:13:17 -0400, Louise Mallard
<readmydigs@booknut.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:04:49 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:


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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.



I'll be sure to tell my gran that god wanted her to have huntingdon's
disease


I have to wonder whether this cretin would feel the same if his
beloved kin were suffering from egregious genetic anamolies.


You would be amazed at the depth of the brainwashing some of these
poor fools have been subjected to. The people who will toss their
kids out if they are gay are precisely the people who will let them
suffer and die of disease while they "pray" to their imaginary diety.

It's definately a will thing--how could anybody abandon their
children, for whatever reason may be immoral to them or their deity?
Is it brainwashing or is it something corrupt in the personality of
these parents.
No god, religion, or person could ever convince me to abandon
children, for any reason. The last thing I'd do is make my children
feel terrible about who they are--I love them no matter what and any
sexual orientation they are I appreciate them no matter what.
.

User: "Mamzelle Aurélie "

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 23 Sep 2005 02:59:06 PM
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:22:37 GMT, Boy Toy <BoyToy@Toyz4Boyz.com>
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:13:17 -0400, Louise Mallard
<readmydigs@booknut.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:04:49 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:


"1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist" <nospamatall@add.com> wrote in
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.



I'll be sure to tell my gran that god wanted her to have huntingdon's
disease


I have to wonder whether this cretin would feel the same if his
beloved kin were suffering from egregious genetic anamolies.


You would be amazed at the depth of the brainwashing some of these
poor fools have been subjected to. The people who will toss their
kids out if they are gay are precisely the people who will let them
suffer and die of disease while they "pray" to their imaginary diety.

It's despicable.
.




User: "Dennis Kemmerer"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 05:27:57 PM
"1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist" <nospamatall@add.com> wrote in
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.

Genetic like your stupidity?
[plonk]
.
User: "1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 06:20:12 PM
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.


Genetic like your stupidity?

[plonk]

Still better then the having an imbecilic Gene.
[plonk]
.


User: "bob young"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 06:53:04 AM
1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist wrote:

"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.

Some god!
.

User: "The Secretary of HomIntern"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 10 Sep 2005 08:16:44 AM
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to 1st Century Apostolic
Traditionalist:

"johac" wrote...

"J Young" wrote:

The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.

<cue repetition of "What God Wants, Part 1", by Roger Waters>
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant *****-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"The whining has just begun." -- John Wentzky
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 11 Sep 2005 01:08:52 AM
In article <vxvUe.687$7p3.23@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>,
"1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist" <nospamatall@add.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.

Isn't your god supposed to be all good and loving? Maybe you worship
another.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.
User: "1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 11 Sep 2005 01:20:36 AM
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <vxvUe.687$7p3.23@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>,
"1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist" <nospamatall@add.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.


Isn't your god supposed to be all good and loving?
Maybe you worship
another

My God is also a "Consuming Fire".
Hebrews 12 29 "For our God is a consuming fire."
Remember also.....Romans 11:22 "Behold therefore the goodness and severity
of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou
continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off."
Jeff...
'THOUGH in most things perfection is unattainable, it is best to aim at it.
Those who aim at it and persevere will come much nearer to it than those
whose laziness and despondency make them give it up as unattainable.'
R.R.
..
.
User: "WCB"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 11 Sep 2005 06:52:36 AM
1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist wrote:


"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <vxvUe.687$7p3.23@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>,
"1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist" <nospamatall@add.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.


Isn't your god supposed to be all good and loving?
Maybe you worship
another


My God is also a "Consuming Fire".
Hebrews 12 29 "For our God is a consuming fire."

Remember also.....Romans 11:22 "Behold therefore the goodness and severity
of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou
continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off."

This god is a non-existant bad idea.
Primitive and stupid, made up by primitive and stupid men for
primitive and stupid men.
Primitive and stupid verses as above by primitive and stupid
men simply reinforce in my mind just how evil and how primitive
this evil and ghastly 'religion' actually is.
God is a non-existant scare crow for fools.
Its scares the fools until they stop thinking
because of fear.
--
"Today the official spokesman for the Foxes
agreed an investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed."
Cheerful Charlie
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 11 Sep 2005 04:18:58 PM
In article <U0QUe.1892$K5.735@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>,
"1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist" <nospamatall@add.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <vxvUe.687$7p3.23@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>,
"1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist" <nospamatall@add.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.


Isn't your god supposed to be all good and loving?
Maybe you worship
another


My God is also a "Consuming Fire".
Hebrews 12 29 "For our God is a consuming fire."

Remember also.....Romans 11:22 "Behold therefore the goodness and severity
of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou
continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off."

That doesn't answer the question. Why would the 'goodness' of your god
let innocent children suffer from genetic disease if there were a way to
prevent it?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.
User: "1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 12 Sep 2005 02:07:16 AM
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <U0QUe.1892$K5.735@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>,
"1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist" <nospamatall@add.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <vxvUe.687$7p3.23@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>,
"1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist" <nospamatall@add.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing
certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.


Isn't your god supposed to be all good and loving?
Maybe you worship
another


My God is also a "Consuming Fire".
Hebrews 12 29 "For our God is a consuming fire."

Remember also.....Romans 11:22 "Behold therefore the goodness and
severity
of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou
continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off."

That doesn't answer the question. Why would the 'goodness' of your god
let innocent children suffer from genetic disease if there were a way to
prevent it?

Ask Eve, she instigated God's curse of suffering, diseases, ageing and the
decay of death throughout the earth.
1 Timothy 2:14 "And it was not Adam who was fooled by Satan, but Eve, and
sin was the result.
15 So God sent pain and suffering to women when their children are born,"
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: The cloned baby with two mothers 12 Sep 2005 02:54:48 AM
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:07:16 GMT in
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, 1st Century Apostolic
Traditionalist ("1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist"
<nospamatall@add.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic


"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <U0QUe.1892$K5.735@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>,
"1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist" <nospamatall@add.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <vxvUe.687$7p3.23@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>,
"1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist" <nospamatall@add.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
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In article <1126317083.122652.226620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


The groundbreaking work aims to prevent mothers from passing
certain
genetic diseases on to their unborn babies.


What's so wrong about preventing genetic disease?


Because it's God's intension that genetic diseases should be so.


Isn't your god supposed to be all good and loving?
Maybe you worship
another


My God is also a "Consuming Fire".
Hebrews 12 29 "For our God is a consuming fire."

Remember also.....Romans 11:22 "Behold therefore the goodness and
severity
of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou
continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off."

That doesn't answer the question. Why would the 'goodness' of your god
let innocent children suffer from genetic disease if there were a way to
prevent it?


Ask Eve, she instigated God's curse of suffering, diseases, ageing and the
decay of death throughout the earth.
1 Timothy 2:14 "And it was not Adam who was fooled by Satan, but Eve, and
sin was the result.
15 So God sent pain and suffering to women when their children are born,"

So given that pain in childbirth is apparently a divine mandate
clearly epidurals and lesser pain medication should be banned when
giving birth, and presumably for cesareans as well.
.








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