"David Moffitt" <moffittcl@stompingweasels.com> wrote in message
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"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a
group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a
collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams
and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the
repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species
marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some
want cradle to grave care and complete subservience to the government
nanny state, others want a culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only
with intonations of political correctness. I view the American liberals
in much the same way I view the competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the
core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and
conservatives." --Ron Marr

The USA and Israel are two distinct countries.

The Dark Side - PBS - Frontline
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/view/5.html?c=2wm

"george" <nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> wrote in message
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"torresD" <torresd30@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"george"

How DARE you justify their actions! How dare you justify their
BRUTALITY!

If you feel that way, *****, why don't you go to Iraq and explain it to
our troops, so they'll know not to object if it happens to them. (Do
you need a ride to the airport?)

And when you've been hooted out (or ridden out on a rail) of our bases,
you can to the "Triangle of Death," and beg their forgiveness for our
presence in their country, in person.

I hope they video tape your gang rape, torture, cutting off of body
parts, and eventual live beheading.

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and the CIA has always said so.

Iraq was a terrorist supporting state, who sheltered terrorists who had
already killed American; who attempted to kill former President George
HW Bush; and who had their own "9/11" plan in the works -- thanks to
Putin, we knew about it beforehand.

Well Ronald Reagan and Bush I sent Iraq all the chemical, biological
weapons,
cash they could, even sent Rumsfeld over there to shake Saddam's hand,
AFTER Saddam gassed the Kurds.

Google it, it's no secret.

Guess what popped up, *****...at the Stockholm International Peace
Research Institute, http://www.sipri.org/

http://www.sipri.org/contents/armstrad/REG_IMP_IRQ_75-05.pdf/download
and
http://www.sipri.org/contents/armstrad/TIV_imp_IRQ_75-05.pdf/download

Yep. Two documents from their ARMS TRANSFER DATABASE.

And guess what, your HEROES, the Soviet Union and later Russia, have
given THE MOST WEAPONS to Iraq.

Wanna see the numbers, *****?

From the above .pdf's, expressed as a PERCENTAGE of all imported
munitions, between 1975 and 2005, listed in descending order, the
countries that have provided weapons to Iraq.

USSR 54.78%
France 13.67%
China 12.33%
Czechoslovakia 6.75%
Poland 4.20%
Brazil 2.63%
Egypt 0.85%
USA 0.59%

This includes America's resumption of arms to the new Iraq government
*after* the invasion, in case you're too fucking STUPID to figure it out.

Note: *BRAZIL* -- that "planetary arms exporting powerhouse" gave MORE TO
IRAQ THAN THE US DID!

Now, you lying *****-pig, let's take the time to review the ENTIRE LIST of
weapons shipped to Iraq between 1975 and 2003 by the USA.

Ready for this?

(31) Bell-214ST Helicopter 1985 1987-88 (31) Originally part of order for
45 for civilian use but
taken over by Air Force

30 Hughes-300/TH-55 Light helicopter 1983 1984 (30) Officially bought for
civilian use, but taken over
by Air Force; Hughes-300C version

30 MD-500MD Defender Light helicopter 1983 1983 (30)

26 MD-530F Light helicopter 1985 1985-86 (26) Officially bought for
civilian use, but taken over
by Air Force



Do you SEE any CHEMICAL or BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS LISTED HERE, YOU LIAR?

The following is a representative list of biologicals sold to Iraq by
the United States prior to the Gulf War.

Date: August 21,1987
Sent to:State Company for Drug Industries Material s Shipped:

1) Saccharomyces cerevesiae(ATCC2601)
Batch #08-28-08 (1each)
2) Salmonella choleraaesuis subsp.
choleraesuis Serotype typhi(ATCC656539)
Batch #06-86S(1each)
3) Bacillus subtillus(ATCC 6633)
Batch #10-85(2 each)
4) Klebsiella pneumoniae subsp. pneumoniae(ATCC 10031)
Batch # 08-13-80 (1 each)
5) Escherichia coli (ATCC 10536)
Batch # 04-09-80 (1 each)
6) Bacillus cereus (11778)
Batch #05-85SSV (2 each)
7) Staphylococcus epidermidis (ATCC 12228)
Batch #11-86S (1 each)
8) Bacillus purnilus(ACTT 14884)
Batch #09-08-20 ( 2 each)

Date July 11, 1988
Sent to: Iraq Atomic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:

1) Escherichia coli (ATCC 11303)
Batch #04-87S
Phage host
2) Cauliflower Mosaic Caulimovirus (ATCC 45031) Batch # 06-14-85
Plant virus
3) Plasmit in Agrobacterium Tumefaciens
(ATCC 3739)
(Ti plasmid for co-cultivation with plant integration vectors in
E.coli)Batch # 05-28-85

Date: April 26,1988
Sent to: Iraq Atmomic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:
1) Hulambdal4x-8, clone: human hypoxanthine phosphorbosyltansferase
(HRPT) Chromosome(s)
X q26.1 (ATCC 57236)
Phase vector: Suggested host E.coli
2) Hulambdal14-8, clone:human hypoxanthine
phosphoribosyltansferase(HPRT)Chromosome(s):
X q26.1 (ATCC 57240)
Phage vector:Suggested host E. coli
3) Hulambdal 15, clone: human hypoxanthine
phosphoribosyltransferase(HPRT) Chromosome(s)
X q26.1 (ATCC 57242)
Phage vector: Suggesed host:E.coli

Date: August 31, 1987
Sent to: Iarq Atomic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:
1) Escherichia coli (ATCC 23846)
Batch #07-29-83 ( 1 each )
2) Escherichia coli(ATCC 33694)
Batch # 03-87 (1 each)

Date: September 29,1988
Sent to: Ministry of Trade Materials Shipped:

1) Bacillus anthracis (ATCC 240)
Batch #05-14-63 (3 each) Class III pathogen
2) Bacillis anthracis(ATCC 3629
Batch #1963 (3 each) Class III pathogen
3) Clostridium perfringens (ATCC 3629)
Batch # 10-23-85 (3 each)
4) Clostridium perfringens (ATCC 8009)
Batch #03-30-84 9 (3 each)
5) Bacillis anthracis (ATCC 9014)
Batch # 06-27-62 (3 each) Class III pathogen
6) Brucella abortns (ATCC 9014)
Batch # 05-11-66 ( 3 each) Class III pathogen
7) Clostridium perfringens (ATCC 10388)
Batch # 06-01-73 ( 3 each)
8) Bacillus anthracis (ATCC 11966)
Batch# 05-05-70 (3 each) Class III pathogen
9) Clostridium botulinum Type A
Batch # 07-86 (3 each) Class III pathogen
10) Bacillus cereus (ATCC 33018)
Batch # 04-83 (3 each)
11) Bacillus ceres (ATCC 33019)
Batch # 03-88 ( 3 each)

Date: January 21, 1989
Sent to: Iraq Atmic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:

1) PHPT31, clone: human hypoxanthine phosphoribosyltransferase (HPRT)
Chromosome(s)
X q26.1 (ATCC 57057)
2) plambda 500, clone: human hypoxanthine phosphoribosyltransferase
pseudogene (HPRT)
Chromosome(s): 5 p14-p13 (ATCC 57212)


Date: January 17,1989
Sent to: Iraq Atomic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:

1) Hulambdal 4x-8, clone: human hypoxanthine phosphoribosyltransferase
(HPRT) Chromosone(s)X q26.1 (ATCC 57237)
Phage vector: Suggested host: E. coli
2) Hulambdal4, clone: human hypoxanthine phosporibosyltransferase (HPRT)
Chromosone(s):
X q26.1 (ATCC 57240)
Cloned from human lymphoblast
Phage vector: Suggested host: E. coli
3) Hulambdal 15, clone: human hypoxantrhine
phosphoribosytransferase(HPRT) Chromosome(s) X q26.1
(ATCC 57241)
Phage vector, Suggested host: E. coli