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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"knighTslayer" |
| Date: |
17 Jan 2005 03:16:41 PM |
| Object: |
The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De Vinci
code. As soon as they mention that is has religious connections I turn off.
I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth reading?
k
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
17 Jan 2005 07:32:32 PM |
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"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De
Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious connections
I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
--
apatriot #23, aa #2179, Grand Poobah, EAC Department of Oxygen
Deprivation
Responsible for brain damage everywhere!
Gary Bohn
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
18 Jan 2005 09:02:15 AM |
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In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn lept
out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De Vinci
code. As soon as they mention that is has religious connections I turn
off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians. <eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that great a
read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting against the
book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy so I could tell
him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism, Brown made another
sale!" <heh>)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
18 Jan 2005 12:00:40 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De
Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth
reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that great
a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting against
the book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy so I could
tell him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism, Brown made
another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take the
book as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that
profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
--
apatriot #23, aa #1779, Grand Poobah (Pubbah)(Hell! head honcho), EAC
Department of Oxygen Deprivation Responsible for brain damage
everywhere!
Gary Bohn
Conservatism is the political philosophy that it ain't broke so don't
try to fix it. Therefore, if that is indeed how it is, that is what
ought to be.
The Wilkins
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
18 Jan 2005 02:56:57 PM |
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In our last episode <Xns95E31F7B08487GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn lept
out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De
Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious connections
I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians. <eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that great a
read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting against the
book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy so I could tell
him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism, Brown made another
sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take the book
as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that profess
to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
18 Jan 2005 08:31:35 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:KPedncoyRZh163DcRVn-uA@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E31F7B08487GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary
Bohn lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De
Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth
reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that
great a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting
against the book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy
so I could tell him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism,
Brown made another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take the
book as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that
profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
Sorry, you are quite right. It should be 'seriously'. My mistake.
--
apatriot #23, aa #2179, Grand Poobah, EAC Department of Oxygen
Deprivation
Responsible for brain damage everywhere!
Gary Bohn
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
18 Jan 2005 08:54:34 PM |
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In our last episode <Xns95E2D0D2616BEGaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn lept
out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:KPedncoyRZh163DcRVn-uA@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E31F7B08487GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De
Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth
reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that great
a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting against
the book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy so I could
tell him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism, Brown made
another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take the
book as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that
profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
Sorry, you are quite right. It should be 'seriously'. My mistake.
Has it finally come to grammar jokes?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Sam" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
18 Jan 2005 08:50:58 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <Xns95E2D0D2616BEGaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn lept
out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:KPedncoyRZh163DcRVn-uA@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E31F7B08487GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De
Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth
reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that great
a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting against
the book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy so I could
tell him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism, Brown made
another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take the
book as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that
profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
Sorry, you are quite right. It should be 'seriously'. My mistake.
Has it finally come to grammar jokes?
i think you mean 'grammaricanical', thank you
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
18 Jan 2005 09:09:45 PM |
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In our last episode <mWjHd.12333$wZ2.5605@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, Sam
lept out of the bushes shouting:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <Xns95E2D0D2616BEGaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:KPedncoyRZh163DcRVn-uA@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E31F7B08487GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De
Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth
reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that great
a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting
against the book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy
so I could tell him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism,
Brown made another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take the
book as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that
profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
Sorry, you are quite right. It should be 'seriously'. My mistake.
Has it finally come to grammar jokes?
i think you mean 'grammaricanical', thank you
I misunderbestated myself...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
18 Jan 2005 09:20:36 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:ht6dneOSfMbVU3DcRVn-3g@megapath.net...
In our last episode <mWjHd.12333$wZ2.5605@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, Sam
lept out of the bushes shouting:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <Xns95E2D0D2616BEGaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:KPedncoyRZh163DcRVn-uA@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E31F7B08487GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De
Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth
reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that great
a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting
against the book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy
so I could tell him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism,
Brown made another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take the
book as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that
profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
Sorry, you are quite right. It should be 'seriously'. My mistake.
Has it finally come to grammar jokes?
i think you mean 'grammaricanical', thank you
I misunderbestated myself...
Stop it! You're making my ears bleed!
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
19 Jan 2005 06:45:27 AM |
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In our last episode <3561vvF4jeprrU1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff lept out
of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:ht6dneOSfMbVU3DcRVn-3g@megapath.net...
In our last episode <mWjHd.12333$wZ2.5605@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
Sam lept out of the bushes shouting:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <Xns95E2D0D2616BEGaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:KPedncoyRZh163DcRVn-uA@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E31F7B08487GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary
Bohn lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the
De Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth
reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that
great a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept
ranting against the book in cross posted threads. So I had to go
buy a copy so I could tell him "thanks to you and your trolling
alt.atheism, Brown made another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take
the book as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart
that profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
Sorry, you are quite right. It should be 'seriously'. My mistake.
Has it finally come to grammar jokes?
i think you mean 'grammaricanical', thank you
I misunderbestated myself...
Stop it! You're making my ears bleed!
Whaddya? A liberaloligist? Don't you unnerkastand Mericanistic?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
19 Jan 2005 07:27:46 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:ntednYu4YtKpyHPcRVn-tQ@megapath.net...
In our last episode <3561vvF4jeprrU1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff lept out
of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:ht6dneOSfMbVU3DcRVn-3g@megapath.net...
snip
I misunderbestated myself...
Stop it! You're making my ears bleed!
Whaddya? A liberaloligist? Don't you unnerkastand Mericanistic?
Nooooooooooooooooo! ACK! <brains everywhere!!>
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
19 Jan 2005 09:26:37 AM |
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In our last episode <3575idF4geurgU1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff lept out
of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:ntednYu4YtKpyHPcRVn-tQ@megapath.net...
In our last episode <3561vvF4jeprrU1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff lept
out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:ht6dneOSfMbVU3DcRVn-3g@megapath.net...
snip
I misunderbestated myself...
Stop it! You're making my ears bleed!
Whaddya? A liberaloligist? Don't you unnerkastand Mericanistic?
Nooooooooooooooooo! ACK! <brains everywhere!!>
Ooo. It was a Weapon of Mass Distortion...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Milan" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
18 Jan 2005 07:01:53 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:KPedncoyRZh163DcRVn-uA@megapath.net...
In our last episode <Xns95E31F7B08487GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn lept
out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De
Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections
I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians. <eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that great a
read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting against
the
book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy so I could tell
him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism, Brown made another
sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take the
book
as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that profess
to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
Not really. I read the book (by sheer coincidence) after watching a very
good series on the Bible -on BBC2, last year. It dealt with the gnostic
gospels, and many other topics. It mentioned also the theory that the chap
next to JC in the last supper is Mary Magdalene, etc. When I read the Da
Vinci code it was interesting to find that the story was based on all those
things. Of course, the holy grail is a different matter.
regards
Milan
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
19 Jan 2005 07:10:49 AM |
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In our last episode <355q2gF4jhc9dU1@individual.net>, Milan lept out of
the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:KPedncoyRZh163DcRVn-uA@megapath.net...
In our last episode <Xns95E31F7B08487GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De
Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections
I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that great
a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting
against
the
book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy so I could
tell him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism, Brown made
another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take the
book
as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that
profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
Not really. I read the book (by sheer coincidence) after watching a very
good series on the Bible -on BBC2, last year. It dealt with the gnostic
gospels, and many other topics. It mentioned also the theory that the chap
next to JC in the last supper is Mary Magdalene, etc. When I read the Da
Vinci code it was interesting to find that the story was based on all
those things. Of course, the holy grail is a different matter.
But it's still a work of fiction. Authors do this kind of thing all the
time. Funny thing is it lends credence to the fictional ideas for an
institution or group to attack the fiction. Particularly with such
vehemence.
It'd be rather like the USG get up in arms about the X-Files. <g>
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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19 Jan 2005 10:59:26 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:hq2dnQHXrbC7xnPcRVn-pg@megapath.net...
In our last episode <355q2gF4jhc9dU1@individual.net>, Milan lept out of
the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:KPedncoyRZh163DcRVn-uA@megapath.net...
In our last episode <Xns95E31F7B08487GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary
Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De
Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections
I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that
great
a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting
against
the
book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy so I could
tell him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism, Brown made
another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take the
book
as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that
profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
Not really. I read the book (by sheer coincidence) after watching a very
good series on the Bible -on BBC2, last year. It dealt with the gnostic
gospels, and many other topics. It mentioned also the theory that the
chap
next to JC in the last supper is Mary Magdalene, etc. When I read the Da
Vinci code it was interesting to find that the story was based on all
those things. Of course, the holy grail is a different matter.
But it's still a work of fiction. Authors do this kind of thing all the
time. Funny thing is it lends credence to the fictional ideas for an
institution or group to attack the fiction. Particularly with such
vehemence.
It'd be rather like the USG get up in arms about the X-Files. <g>
--
Well, Dawkins and other scientits have done just that. Have a look at this
link. I think they have a very good point.
http://www.csicop.org/articles/x-files-movie/index.html
regards
Milan
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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19 Jan 2005 12:55:11 PM |
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In our last episode <357i5uF4ifk9rU1@individual.net>, Milan lept out of
the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:hq2dnQHXrbC7xnPcRVn-pg@megapath.net...
In our last episode <355q2gF4jhc9dU1@individual.net>, Milan lept out of
the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:KPedncoyRZh163DcRVn-uA@megapath.net...
In our last episode <Xns95E31F7B08487GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary
Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the
De Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections
I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that
great
a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting
against
the
book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy so I could
tell him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism, Brown made
another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take
the
book
as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that
profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
Not really. I read the book (by sheer coincidence) after watching a
very good series on the Bible -on BBC2, last year. It dealt with the
gnostic gospels, and many other topics. It mentioned also the theory
that the
chap
next to JC in the last supper is Mary Magdalene, etc. When I read the
Da Vinci code it was interesting to find that the story was based on
all those things. Of course, the holy grail is a different matter.
But it's still a work of fiction. Authors do this kind of thing all the
time. Funny thing is it lends credence to the fictional ideas for an
institution or group to attack the fiction. Particularly with such
vehemence.
It'd be rather like the USG get up in arms about the X-Files. <g>
--
Well, Dawkins and other scientits have done just that. Have a look at this
link. I think they have a very good point.
http://www.csicop.org/articles/x-files-movie/index.html
And I found the actions to be silly.
The problem is not the fiction, the problem is the education. If we don't
educate people to recognize what is and is not fiction, we've already lost
and it doesn't *matter what movies are playing this week...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Milan" |
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21 Jan 2005 06:26:53 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:fJKdnakebLJGNnPcRVn-rw@megapath.net...
In our last episode <357i5uF4ifk9rU1@individual.net>, Milan lept out of
the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:hq2dnQHXrbC7xnPcRVn-pg@megapath.net...
In our last episode <355q2gF4jhc9dU1@individual.net>, Milan lept out of
the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:KPedncoyRZh163DcRVn-uA@megapath.net...
In our last episode <Xns95E31F7B08487GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary
Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary
Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the
De Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections
I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off
Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that
great
a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting
against
the
book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy so I
could
tell him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism, Brown made
another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take
the
book
as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that
profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
Not really. I read the book (by sheer coincidence) after watching a
very good series on the Bible -on BBC2, last year. It dealt with the
gnostic gospels, and many other topics. It mentioned also the theory
that the
chap
next to JC in the last supper is Mary Magdalene, etc. When I read the
Da Vinci code it was interesting to find that the story was based on
all those things. Of course, the holy grail is a different matter.
But it's still a work of fiction. Authors do this kind of thing all the
time. Funny thing is it lends credence to the fictional ideas for an
institution or group to attack the fiction. Particularly with such
vehemence.
It'd be rather like the USG get up in arms about the X-Files. <g>
--
Well, Dawkins and other scientits have done just that. Have a look at
this
link. I think they have a very good point.
http://www.csicop.org/articles/x-files-movie/index.html
And I found the actions to be silly.
The problem is not the fiction, the problem is the education. If we don't
educate people to recognize what is and is not fiction, we've already lost
and it doesn't *matter what movies are playing this week...
Ah, but everything (including fiction) has a message - everything is
political, as they used to say in the 60s. Scully is always, always wrong.
And Mulder is always right. I have to admit, the reason that I tended to
find the X-files entertaining, but slightly irritating is not what irritates
Dawkins, but reasons of the internal structure of the series. When I saw the
first episode, I thought: they have a gullible freak and a skeptical
scientist, ok, this is going to be a series where things look supernatural
but then have a rational explanation (a la Scooby-doo) or where there will
be room for either interpretation (a la Candyman). It was neither, of
course. It was a traditional, conventional sci-fi series. What I found
annoying is that Scully persisted in trying to find a rational explanation
for the events of each episode when she had proven wrong every single
previous episode. Once you have seen vampires, demons, ghosts and aliens in
all the previous episodes, why would you keep on being skeptical about the
existence of such critters? It was as though Scully suffered from
anterograde amnesia. And it looked stupid. She thought she was in Scooby-doo
and didnt realize she was in the X-files. It was like Buffy trying to
explain events in Sunnydale assuming that demons and vampires dont exist.
regards
Milan
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24 Jan 2005 10:23:52 AM |
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In our last episode <35dl50F4hdj4qU1@individual.net>, Milan lumbered into
the room and mumbled:
Ah, but everything (including fiction) has a message - everything is
political, as they used to say in the 60s.
Nah, I reject that. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
I'm the kind of writer that would take something I don't believe in *at
*all and write something assuming it's "true." X-Files is very much
something in line with the kind of writing I like to do. In fact, I've had
an idea for a novel (which was around *before X-Files came along, it's an
old idea I've never done anything with) that assumes the whole "gray"
thing is real. That there really *are aliens kidnapping people for weird
experiments.
The reason the idea is interesting to me is you pay close attention to the
"abduction" crowd, what emerges is a picture of *deranged* aliens. I mean,
these "grays" are freakin' *insane. If such a species really existed and
was doing what the abduction crowd wants us to believe, we need to shoot
the bastards out of the sky on site.
I thought the idea would make for a nutty "remake" of the old "Earth
Verses the Flying Saucers." <G>
Scully is always, always wrong.
And Mulder is always right. I have to admit, the reason that I tended to
find the X-files entertaining, but slightly irritating is not what
irritates Dawkins, but reasons of the internal structure of the series.
When I saw the first episode, I thought: they have a gullible freak and a
skeptical scientist, ok, this is going to be a series where things look
supernatural but then have a rational explanation (a la Scooby-doo) or
where there will be room for either interpretation (a la Candyman). It
was neither, of course. It was a traditional, conventional sci-fi series.
What I found annoying is that Scully persisted in trying to find a
rational explanation for the events of each episode when she had proven
wrong every single previous episode. Once you have seen vampires, demons,
ghosts and aliens in all the previous episodes, why would you keep on
being skeptical about the existence of such critters?
I have to personally disagree. Especially watching a lot of the old
episodes lately. I don't think the portrayal of Scully is that far "off."
I've "seen" some pretty wild stuff myself. If I "believed," I'd be getting
rather out there. I'm a skeptic about my own "eye witness accounts."
Scully is often the same way.
I just watched one where she did, for a time, believe a condemned prisoner
was "psychic." Ironically (and deliberately of course) Muldar believed the
man was conning them and warned *Scully not to believe him.
In the end, it was left that she had an emotional reason to almost "buy
in" but despite having what some would consider compelling experiences,
backed off.
It's also not true she was always wrong. One of my all time favorite
episodes is the one about the roaches (it's just funny <g>). She's right
about *everything. There is a side story that hints something weird is
going on that may involve aliens but it's not the main thread of the story
and it's also based on some actual speculation by actual scientists.
It is true that the "universe" the show happens within, the supernatural
and the aliens are "real." That it took Scully six or seven years to
experience a major shift in her world view never bothered me. It would
have bothered me if she had *not been so reluctant and had *not required
considerable evidence before making such a radical change.
It was as though
Scully suffered from anterograde amnesia. And it looked stupid. She
thought she was in Scooby-doo and didnt realize she was in the X-files. It
was like Buffy trying to explain events in Sunnydale assuming that demons
and vampires dont exist.
I never felt she was portrayed as stupid. From *her perspective throughout
most of the show, her skepticism was warranted. When the writers were at
the "top of their game," they crafted episodes in which she "just missed"
seeing the harder evidence. It was a plot trick that was guaranteed to get
old over time but when it worked, it worked well I think.
By the time the *movie came along--which seems to be the main topic of the
complaints--the show was drawing to a close and enough evidence had piled
up, she would have been "stupid" to not be moving towards belief.
*Something was up. But it was the culmination, the climax. In fact, the
show really should *not have continued. That was a major mistake on Chris
Carter's part. Driven by the unfortunate reality that he seems to have
been a "one hit wonder" and none of his other work got off the ground (I
actually like Millennium but it did crash and burn fast, the "overhaul" it
went through turned it into a parody of itself and it just died).
Carter was flogging a dead series, trying to squeeze more life out of it
though it died when Muldar disappeared from the scene. They had to try
bringing in a new skeptic to replace Scully since she'd come to accept
that the weirdness was real but it just didn't work.
Anyway.
I really don't *care what agenda Carter may or may not have had. And it
shouldn't *matter. The show should have been treated as interesting
fantasy. Nothing more. Even if he believed all the supernatural and alien
abduction stuff (which I don't know one way or the other).
Being too "tight *****" about skepticism would utterly destroy big
territories of fiction. What would we do with Harry Potter? Write tomes
debunking it?
For that matter, most "Science Fiction" is actual *crap in terms of real
science. Star Trek with it's FTL and "beaming" about? Please. Or one of
the recent rages, "nanotechnology?" You know that's utter *****? It's
wild speculation by a few folks who like to "think big thoughts" but
hasn't a shred of basis in reality. Boy but they make *cool Quicktime and
Powerpoint stuff huh?
I'm actually harder on SF than Fantasy. If *anybody needs to be spanked
soundly, it's the "Science Fiction" crowd who rarely display interest in
actual *science...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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22 Jan 2005 06:16:34 AM |
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In article <fJKdnakebLJGNnPcRVn-rw@megapath.net>, alt-
atheism@org.webmaster says...
In our last episode <357i5uF4ifk9rU1@individual.net>, Milan lept out of
the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:hq2dnQHXrbC7xnPcRVn-pg@megapath.net...
In our last episode <355q2gF4jhc9dU1@individual.net>, Milan lept out of
the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:KPedncoyRZh163DcRVn-uA@megapath.net...
In our last episode <Xns95E31F7B08487GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary
Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the
De Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections
I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that
great
a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting
against
the
book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy so I could
tell him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism, Brown made
another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take
the
book
as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that
profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
Not really. I read the book (by sheer coincidence) after watching a
very good series on the Bible -on BBC2, last year. It dealt with the
gnostic gospels, and many other topics. It mentioned also the theory
that the
chap
next to JC in the last supper is Mary Magdalene, etc. When I read the
Da Vinci code it was interesting to find that the story was based on
all those things. Of course, the holy grail is a different matter.
But it's still a work of fiction. Authors do this kind of thing all the
time. Funny thing is it lends credence to the fictional ideas for an
institution or group to attack the fiction. Particularly with such
vehemence.
It'd be rather like the USG get up in arms about the X-Files. <g>
--
Well, Dawkins and other scientits have done just that. Have a look at this
link. I think they have a very good point.
http://www.csicop.org/articles/x-files-movie/index.html
And I found the actions to be silly.
The problem is not the fiction, the problem is the education. If we don't
educate people to recognize what is and is not fiction, we've already lost
and it doesn't *matter what movies are playing this week...
I was talking to a woman the other day who told me that she
would never visit England because of all the terrible things
they'd done historically, using "prima nocte" against the Scots,
and so on. Yep, she'd been watching "Braveheart", and believed
it all implicitly. She didn't argue when I told here that Prima
Nocte was a fantasy concocted by scholars who didn't get out
enough, that William Wallace had been dead several years before
the French princess arrived, that while Longshanks wasn't
exactly Mr. Nice Guy, he wasn't the cardboard cutout villain
that the film made him, either, and that "Braveheart" was a
romance, in the Arthurian sense of the word. Don't know if she
believed me, but I tried. :)
--
Siobhan - a.a. #2201
siobhan.burke@CARRIERatt.net
Drop CARRIER to email
"But as a general rule, when things look bad there's always some
***** who can make them worse." -- Terry Pratchett
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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18 Jan 2005 07:10:14 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that
great a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept
ranting against the book in cross posted threads. So I had to go
buy a copy so I could tell him "thanks to you and your trolling
alt.atheism, Brown made another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take
the book as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart
that profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
There was a fairly good show last night called Beyond "The De Vinci Code"
It was longer than it had to be but presented the story line of the code,
compared it to reality, and brought out the facts that were true.
Like any such thing it can take 30 seconds to state a very plausible
conspiracy connection between two or more things and 30 hours to document
there are no such connections.
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19 Jan 2005 06:49:59 AM |
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In our last episode <WriHd.3299$8Z1.2086@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, Mike
Painter lept out of the bushes shouting:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that great
a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting against
the book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy so I could
tell him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism, Brown made
another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take the
book as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that
profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
There was a fairly good show last night called Beyond "The De Vinci Code"
It was longer than it had to be but presented the story line of the code,
compared it to reality, and brought out the facts that were true.
Like any such thing it can take 30 seconds to state a very plausible
conspiracy connection between two or more things and 30 hours to document
there are no such connections.
Sometimes I wonder if it's worth bothering. Paying even the most negative
attention to some of these conspiracy ideas seems often to only give
them credence. Especially considering the amount of "they don't want you
to know" built in to so many.
Though it's not like the media these days bothers with debunking much of
anything. They take the lazy route. Pick people from both "sides," let
them yap at each other, do the journalistic "you decide," and never bother
to investigate anything...
(Well, thinking is *haaaaard)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "" |
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19 Jan 2005 06:52:57 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if it's worth bothering. Paying even the most
negative
attention to some of these conspiracy ideas seems often to only give
them credence. Especially considering the amount of "they don't want
you
to know" built in to so many.
I know the feeling. There has to be some point at which one simply
dismisses something as not worth the trouble.
Though it's not like the media these days bothers with debunking much
of
anything. They take the lazy route. Pick people from both "sides,"
let
them yap at each other, do the journalistic "you decide," and never
bother
to investigate anything...
Although, of course, this too is a position: these two positions are
'equally valid'. Note how those who tell us what to think do not allow
this easy equivalence when they really care about something. For
instance, 20 years ago in the UK, any discussion of sodomy other than
in affirmative terms was quietly made to disappear from our TV sets.
It's what is not allowed to be shown that should worry us also.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
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| User: "Sam" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
18 Jan 2005 07:44:43 PM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that
great a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept
ranting against the book in cross posted threads. So I had to go
buy a copy so I could tell him "thanks to you and your trolling
alt.atheism, Brown made another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take
the book as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart
that profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
I find the taking serious part to be very, deeply strange...
There was a fairly good show last night called Beyond "The De Vinci Code"
It was longer than it had to be but presented the story line of the code,
compared it to reality, and brought out the facts that were true.
Like any such thing it can take 30 seconds to state a very plausible
conspiracy connection between two or more things and 30 hours to document
there are no such connections.
i never have understood why some christians seem so put out by the book
(seen the 'response' book-'breaking the da vinci code'? hilarious!). i
dont see how the novel can challenge chrisitanity any more than isaac
asimov's 'foundation 'series challenges sociology. of course, i guess
many people dont know the history of their religion so havent been
exposed to any of the philosophical evolution of the church, why dont
they teach the council of nicea in sunday school? what of constantine
and the eastern orthodox split? what kind of schooling is it they do?
i'm an atheist and i seem to be the only one at the church i work at who
knows that dec 25 was the pagan roman celebration of the 'birthday of
the undying sun' (really goes a long way to my theory that monotheism is
mostly based on sun worship).
anyway, i thought the davinci code was a great adventure story and
recommend dan browns other book in that vein 'angels & demons', takes
place totally within vatican city. his other two books were sort of a
letdown for me after these.
its fiction based on fiction, as far as i am concerned.
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| User: "Liz" |
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19 Jan 2005 05:45:19 AM |
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On 18 Jan 2005 18:00:40 GMT, Gary Bohn
<garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> in news message
<Xns95E31F7B08487GaryBohn@130.133.1.4> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:xbGdnQpM0NlavnDcRVn-sg@megapath.net:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De
Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections I turn off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth
reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians.
<eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that great
a read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting against
the book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy so I could
tell him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism, Brown made
another sale!" <heh>)
It is intended to be fiction but there are many theists that take the
book as truth. There a number of books that I've seen in Walmart that
profess to analyse the findings in TDVC. Some take it serious.
Well, what can you expect. They take the Bible seriously, too.
While I thought TDVC was an entertaining read, I enjoyed his earlier
book "Angels and Demons" more.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
18 Jan 2005 09:08:13 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
In our last episode <Xns95E1C6CD2A9D6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4>, Gary Bohn lept
out of the bushes shouting:
"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De Vinci
code. As soon as they mention that is has religious connections I turn
off. I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth reading?
k
No! Made up crap.
Anything else I can help you with?
Well, it *is fiction.
I bought one just to encourage writing that pisses off Christians. <eg>
(Originally, I wasn't interested. I kept hearing it wasn't that great a
read. But there was this one Catholic troll who kept ranting against the
book in cross posted threads. So I had to go buy a copy so I could tell
him "thanks to you and your trolling alt.atheism, Brown made another
sale!" <heh>)
I bought the "His Dark Materials" trilogy because of a recommendation here. Two
thirds of the way through the first book and loving it. Just because it is
written for a "young adult" crowd doesn't mean it ain't good writin'!
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"The President is merely the most important among a large number
of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to
the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct,
his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and
disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is
absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell
the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly
necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when
he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both
base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of
the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or
wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about
him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth,
pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."
President Theodore Roosevelt, editorial to the Kansas City Star
May 7, 1918
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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18 Jan 2005 11:30:29 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:08:13 -0800, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
I bought the "His Dark Materials" trilogy because of a recommendation here. Two
thirds of the way through the first book and loving it. Just because it is
written for a "young adult" crowd doesn't mean it ain't good writin'!
Same here. I mentioned the thread to my wife, who dug the books out
of the storage boxes. Really enjoying them.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Milan" |
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18 Jan 2005 11:28:14 AM |
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"knighTslayer" <theKnighTslayer@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:j-ednS-UG-2mtnHcRVnyhg@pipex.net...
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De Vinci
code. As soon as they mention that is has religious connections I turn
off.
I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth reading?
k
Brown cannot write for toffee; his prose is laborious and
clumsy -irritatingly so at times. However, the story is interesting and the
plot is fairly gripping. It is based on some true facts (the gnostic
gospels, etc) and some ***** (the holy grail). I personally enjoyed more
the bits based on the facts that those on the fiction. In summary, it is
entertaining and worth reading.
regards
Milan
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| User: "Witziges Rätsel" |
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17 Jan 2005 03:57:39 PM |
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A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De Vinci
code. As soon as they mention that is has religious connections I turn
off.
I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth reading?
If you think that Jesus of Nazareth and Mary Magdalene really
existed and if you think that something called a holy grail existed
or still exists, then the Da Vinci Code might interest you. IMO it's
quite probable that the Da Vinci Code is baloney written to make a
profit.
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
17 Jan 2005 07:35:00 PM |
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"Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com> wrote in
news:cshdfk$3fd$1@news.chatlink.com:
A lot people I know are suggesting to me that I should read the De
Vinci code. As soon as they mention that is has religious
connections I turn off.
I maybe ignorant so I wonder, is it worth reading?
If you think that Jesus of Nazareth and Mary Magdalene really
existed and if you think that something called a holy grail
existed or still exists, then the Da Vinci Code might interest
you. IMO it's quite probable that the Da Vinci Code is baloney
written to make a profit.
'Quite' probable? Is 100% 'quite'. You must be British to make that much
of an understatement.
The whole idea is based on secret messages from god hidden in the bible.
Does that sound rational to you?
--
apatriot #23, aa #2179, Grand Poobah, EAC Department of Oxygen
Deprivation
Responsible for brain damage everywhere!
Gary Bohn
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: The De Vinci Code - worth the read? |
17 Jan 2005 05:20:50 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:57:39 -0500, "Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
IMO it's quite probable that the Da Vinci Code is baloney written to make a profit.
GASP! You mean a *novelist* wrote a *work of fiction* in order to
MAKE MONEY!?!? Horrors! I feel faint!
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go cash my royalty check from
Steve Jackson Games...
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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