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The Empty Cradle Will Rock
How abortion is costing the Democrats voters--literally.
BY LARRY L. EASTLAND
Monday, June 28, 2004 12:01 a.m. EDT
More than 40 million legal abortions have been performed and
documented in the 30 years since the U.S. Supreme Court declared
abortion legal. The debate remains focused on the legality and
morality of abortion. What's largely ignored is a factual analysis of
the political consequences of 40 million abortions. Consider:
- There were 12,274,368 in the Voting Age Population of 205,815,000
missing from the 2000 presidential election, because of abortions from
1973-82.
- In this year's election, there will be 18,336,576 in the Voting Age
Population missing because of abortions between 1972 and 1986.
- In the 2008 election, 24,408,960 in the Voting Age Population will
be missing because of abortions between 1973-90.
These numbers will not change. They are based on individual choices
made--aggregated nationally--as long as 30 years ago. Look inside
these numbers at where the political impact is felt most. Do Democrats
realize that millions of Missing Voters--due to the abortion policies
they advocate--gave George W. Bush the margin of victory in 2000?
The number of abortions accumulate in size and political impact as the
years roll along. Like an avalanche that picks up speed, mass, and
power as it thunders down a mountain, the number of Missing Voters
from abortion changes the landscape of politics. The absence of the
missing voters may not be noticed, but that doesn't mean its political
impact disappears. As seen during a famine, what no longer exists
becomes as relevant as what does.
Let's begin with the obvious: Children born in any given year arrive
at voting age in 18 years; conversely, children not born in a given
year are "Missing Voters" 18 years later. Permanently so, unless
someone discovers a way to give birth to a teenager in a nine-month
gestation period. This table gives the number of Missing Voters from
abortion and election years affected:
Table 1: Abortions in the U.S., 1973-90
Years
Abortions
Aggregated Election
Affected
1973-74 1,643,200 1,643,200 1992
1975-78 4,939,800 6,583,000 1996
1979-82 6,202,800 12,785,800 2000
1983-86 6,314,800 19,100,600 2004
1987-90 6,325,400 25,426,000 2008
The question arises: Who would these Missing Voters have been if they
had reached voting age? What would their values have been? How would
they have voted? What impact would they have had on the great debates
in America, including the abortion debate? Here's what we know from
several generations of social science research about children:
- They tend to absorb the values of their parents.
- They tend to have the same political views as their family (parents,
siblings, immediate relatives) and share common views on political
causes.
- They tend to develop the same lifestyle as their family.
I remember the guy at my 30th high school class reunion who looked
over the people there and remarked, "I can't believe I came in person,
while everyone else sent their parents!"
With these factors in mind, the internationally respected survey
research firm Wirthlin Worldwide was commissioned to ask 2,000
respondents in a stratified random sample of adults the following
question: "As far as you know, has anyone close to you had an
abortion?" The emphasis here was on "close to you" in order to bring
to mind only those people inside the respondents' circle of
socio-demographically homogeneous family and friends.
Of the 2,000 respondents, 636 responded "yes." The various
socio-demographic characteristics of these respondents were then
imposed on the abortion statistics (Table 1, above), with a special
emphasis on the 2000 and 2004 general elections to see what impact
they likely would have made had the Missing Voters been present to
vote in those two elections.
There were 105,405,100 votes cast for president in the 2000 general
election, representing 51.2% of the Voting Age Population. The Missing
Voters would have been 6,033,097 based on that portion of the 51.2%
represented by (at their lower voting level) 18-24 year olds. This
means that Missing Voters would have been 4.48% of all actual voters
in 2000.
Given the extremely close result in 2000, these voters could have been
a crucial factor in the outcome. This is borne out when viewed by
political party as defined in the Wirthlin survey.
There is a significant difference between Republicans with someone
close to them who have had an abortion, and Democrats with someone
close to them who have had an abortion:
Table 2: Missing Republicans vs. Missing Democrats
Party % of total abortions % of party w/abortions Party as % of
electorate Party loss/gain
Republican 35% 28% 39% +4
Independent 16% 30% 17%
Democrat 49% 36% 44% -5
This tells us:
- Republicans have fewer abortions than their proportion of the
population, Democrats have more than their proportion of the
population. Democrats account for 30% more abortions than Republicans
(49% vs. 35%).
- The more ideologically Democratic the voters are (self-identified
liberals), the more abortions they have. The more ideologically
Republican the voters are (self-identified conservatives), the fewer
abortions they have.
This isn't particularly surprising given the core constituencies of
both political parties. But translating percentages into numbers for
the purpose of evaluating their impact on politics makes the
importance of these numbers real. It's one thing to quote percentages
and statistics, it's quite another to look at actual human beings. For
example:
- There are 19,748,000 Democrats who are not with us today. (49.37
percent of 40 million).
- There are 13,900,000 Republican who are not with us today. (34.75
percent of 40 million).
- By comparison, then, the Democrats have lost 5,848,000 more voters
than the Republicans have.
These Missing Americans--and particularly the millions of Missing
Voters--when compounded over time are of enormous political
consequence:
Table 3: Missing voters by political party, 2000 general election
Republican 2,096,406
Independent 958,086
Democrat 2,978,605
Total 6,033,097
Let's look at the 2000 election to see what those 6,033,097 Missing
Voters meant to its outcome. What would these Missing Voters have
meant to the election in Florida?
Table 4: Florida 2000, with and without Missing Voters
Candidate Vote Missing
voters Combined
vote
Bush 2,912,790 107,799 3,020,589
Gore 2,912,253 153,163 3,065,416
In the actual popular vote for president in the 2000 general election
in Florida, George W. Bush was declared the winner by 537 votes. But
if the 260,962 Missing Voters of Florida had been present to vote, Al
Gore would have won by 45,366 votes. Missing Voters--through decisions
made in the 1970s and early 1980s, encouraged and emboldened by the
feminist movement at the height of its power--altered the outcome of
the U.S. presidency a generation later, in a way proponents of legal
abortion could not have imagined.
Examining these results through a partisan political lens, the
Democrats have given the Republicans a decided advantage in electoral
politics, one that grows with each election. Moreover, it is an
advantage that they can never regain. Even if abortion were declared
illegal today, and every single person complied with the decision, the
advantage would continue to grow until the 2020 election, and would
stay at that level throughout the voting lifetime of most Americans
living today.
The next question is: What do these numbers tell us about the 2004
election? If we use the seven closest states from the 2000 election as
our guide, we can see what these Missing Voters would do to the vote
in each state. This is important because most analysts today believe
that the 2004 election is likely to be a replay of the 2000 election,
except with an incumbent Republican president this time. Given the
usual advantages of incumbency, the swing of marginal states from
2000--shoring up Republican victories and tipping the scales from
Democrat to Republican in Democratic states--may very well determine
the popular and electoral outcome in 2004.
The popular vote in these seven states, with 63 electoral votes in
2000, was less than 1% apart between the two candidates. By adding the
votes of the Missing Voters, Democrats could have picked up Florida,
and solidified their vote in the other six states (where election
challenges could certainly have been seriously considered). The
Democrats could have increased their popular and electoral count
beyond the scrutiny of the courts and "the court of public opinion."
Table 5: The seven closest states from 2000, with Missing Voters added
State/EVs Bush 2000 Gore 2000 Missing voters 2000/revised 2004 totals
Florida
25 (27) 2,912,790 2,912,253 R: 107,799
D: 153,163 '00: R by 537
'04: D by 45,366
Iowa
7 634,373 638,517 R: 23,556
D: 33,469 '00: D by 4,144
'04: D by 14,057
Nevada
4 (5) 301,575 279,978 R: 10,762
D: 15,291 '00: R by 21,597
'04: R by 17,068
New Hampshire
4 273,559 266,348 R: 9,992
D: 14,196 '00: R by 7,211
'04: R by 3,006
New Mexico
5 286,417 286,783 R: 10,608
D: 15,072 '00: D by 366
'04: D by 4,830
Oregon
7 713,577 720,342 R: 26,536
D: 37,703 '00: D by 6,765
'04: D by 17,932
Wisconsin
11 (10) 1,237,279 1,242,987 R: 45,900
D: 65,216 '00: D by 5,708
'04: D by 25,023
This table shows the actual vote from 2000, then shows what the change
would be in 2004 with all else remaining the same, except that the
Missing Voters were added. Numbers in parentheses are 2004 electoral
votes.
A similar scenario can be constructed for the U.S. Senate races this
fall. The Republican advantages are real: more Democrats (19) are up
than Republicans (15), more Democrats are retiring than Republicans
(and from advantageous states for Republicans), and Republicans
usually do better in a presidential election year. Generally accepted
"givens" are:
- Incumbents typically win. In fact, 96% of incumbent U. S. Senators
win re-election. The McCain-Feingold legislation will not change this.
No legislation passed in the name of reform--including the 1974
post-Watergate campaign finance reform legislation--has ever increased
the challenger advantage or lessened the incumbent advantage, no
matter what the intended goal.
- In open-seat contests, the party vacating the position cannot "hand
over" the seat to the new party nominee. Traditional factors are far
more important, such as a strong candidate, solid organization,
appealing issues and sound finance. Still, long-term party allegiance
is a major factor.
Consequently, the impact of Missing Voters could be considerable in
states where the electorate is evenly divided between the two parties
over a period of elections. Consider the open seats whose incumbents
have chosen not to run for re-election. The following figures
represent all votes cast in those states in 1996 and 2000 in the last
two presidential year general elections for candidates to Congress--a
traditional bellwether for predicting base federal candidate vote.
Table 6: Open Senate seats, 2004
State Incumbent Party GOP adv/disadv
Colorado Ben Nighthorse Campbell R (R) 1.122
Florida Bob Graham D (D) 1.202
Georgia Zell Miller D (R) 0.970
Illinois Peter Fitzgerald R (D) 0.941
Louisiana John Breaux D (D) 0.981
North Carolina John Edwards D (R) 1.050
Oklahoma Don Nickles R (R) 1.151
South Carolina Fritz Hollings D (R) 1.096
The party of the retiring senator is listed first; the party of the
state's other senator is in parentheses.
If voting patterns in the past two presidential elections (combined)
hold true for 2004, then five of these states should be an advantage
for the GOP: Colorado, Florida, North Carolina, Oklahoma and South
Carolina. Conversely, three states would lean Democratic: Georgia,
Illinois and Louisiana.
What do the Missing Voters take away from the Democrats in each state?
Table 7: Missing Voters (net) in 2004 open Senate races
Colorado 12,013
Florida 37,783
Georgia 17,783
Illinois 78,845
Louisiana 15,520
North Carolina 48,980
Oklahoma 20,983
South Carolina 22,005
Most major reporting and analyzing institutions would rate each of the
open seats, with the possible exception of Illinois, as "too close to
call" at this stage of the campaign. When election time comes, these
Missing Voters will be missed. The most expensive campaign a candidate
will ever run, the adage goes, is the one he or she loses. For half of
these candidates, this will be that most expensive campaign.
Abortion has caused missing Democrats--and missing liberals. For
advocates so fundamentally committed to changing the face of
conservative America, liberals have been remarkably blind to the fact
that every day the abortions they advocate dramatically decrease their
power to do so. Imagine the number of followers that their abortion
policies eliminate who, over the next several decades, would have
emerged as the new liberal thinkers, voters, adherents, fund-raisers
and workers for their cause.
Table 8: Missing by ideology
Ideology % of pop % of total abortions % of group
having abortions
Liberal 37% 47% 41%
Moderate 5% 5% 31%
Conservative 59% 48% 26%
Look at the results:
- Six out of 10 Americans call themselves conservatives. Only a
quarter of them are having abortions.
- A little more than one-third of Americans call themselves liberals.
More than four in 10 are having abortions.
- This means that liberals are having one third more abortions than
conservatives.
By combining party and ideology, an even sharper contrast comes into
focus:
Table 9: Liberal Democrats vs. conservative Republicans
Ideology/party % of pop % of total abortions % of group
having abortions
Liberal/Democrat 40% 48% 38%
Moderate/Independent 11% 10% 30%
Conservative/Republican 49% 41% 27%
Liberal Democrats are having both more abortions--and more abortions
as a percentage of their ideological and political group--than either
of the other groupings.
As liberals and Democrats fervently seek new voters and supporters
through events, fund-raisers, direct mail and every other form of
communication available, they achieve results minuscule in comparison
to the loss of voters they suffer from their own abortion policies. It
is a grim irony lost on them, for which they will pay dearly in
elections to come.
Mr. Eastland is managing director of LEA Management Group LLC, a
public policy research organization. This article appears in the June
issue of The American Spectator
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005277
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05 Oct 2004 05:24:46 PM |
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"Voice of Truth" <voiceoftruth227@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The Empty Cradle Will Rock
How abortion is costing the Democrats voters--literally.
BY LARRY L. EASTLAND
Monday, June 28, 2004 12:01 a.m. EDT
More than 40 million legal abortions have been performed and
documented in the 30 years since the U.S. Supreme Court declared
abortion legal. The debate remains focused on the legality and
morality of abortion. What's largely ignored is a factual analysis of
the political consequences of 40 million abortions. Consider:
How come you, Stalin and Hitler are so against abortion until your
daughter really neads one?
How about some of your own words brainwashed parrot?
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Goodness Godless
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06 Oct 2004 06:23:56 AM |
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"Goodness Godless" <goodness@godless.net> wrote in message
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"Voice of Truth" <voiceoftruth227@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:816e1d8c.0410051326.6fdf3580@posting.google.com...
The Empty Cradle Will Rock
How abortion is costing the Democrats voters--literally.
BY LARRY L. EASTLApa
Monday, June 28, 2004 12:01 a.m. EDT
More than 40 million legal abortions have been performed and
documented in the 30 years since the U.S. Supreme Court declared
abortion legal. The debate remains focused on the legality and
morality of abortion. What's largely ignored is a factual analysis of
the political consequences of 40 million abortions. Consider:
How come you, Stalin and Hitler are so against abortion until your
daughter really neads one?
How about some of your own words brainwashed parrot?
You are showing your stupidity by implying that abortion is a need, like a
commercial commodity. If your duaghter was pregnant, she would only need an
abortion if you were the biological father, or her life were endangered by
the birth. If you were a normally compassionate individual, you would offer
to help her with the difficult parenthood.
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Chinese accordions suck.
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| User: "Philippic" |
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05 Oct 2004 05:45:39 PM |
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"Goodness Godless" <goodness@godless.net> wrote in message
news:1097015045.641627@
How come you, Stalin and Hitler are so against abortion until your
daughter really neads one?
No surprise there, my friend!
It's just like the way a 'far-right Conservative' will think that 'lesbians'
are *sick, twisted whores*, the *spawn of Satan*, who should be *thrown off
a fucking cliff* --- until that Conservative is ****** Cheney*, who suddenly
finds out that *he has a daughter who FUCKS GIRLS*.
And what happens *then*?
Answer: Mr Cheney *gets all LIBERAL on the issue*...!!
BWAHAHAHAAAAAA.....!
Philippic
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05 Oct 2004 06:17:33 PM |
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On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:45:39 GMT, "Philippic"
<slxeeoxgxr@slxoxgxr.com> wrote:
"Goodness Godless" <goodness@godless.net> wrote in message
news:1097015045.641627@
How come you, Stalin and Hitler are so against abortion until your
daughter really neads one?
No surprise there, my friend!
It's just like the way a 'far-right Conservative' will think that 'lesbians'
are *sick, twisted whores*, the *spawn of Satan*, who should be *thrown off
a fucking cliff* --- until that Conservative is ****** Cheney*, who suddenly
finds out that *he has a daughter who FUCKS GIRLS*.
And what happens *then*?
Answer: Mr Cheney *gets all LIBERAL on the issue*...!!
BWAHAHAHAAAAAA.....!
Philippic
Reaaalllyyy? This is too, too funny, how did I miss it??
:-)))
I'm reminded of late, great comedian Bill Hicks' routine in which he
grimaces for a while at the thought of gay men having sex - then perks
up again: "...but two *women* having sex - that's just got to be the
most beautiful sight in the world."
Which reminds me of another great reversal of his, from his scathing
material on Desert Storm: "I hear all this crap about people 'being
against the war, but for our troops.' Well, I'm for the war but
*against* our troops."
Lots of his material from the early nineties still fits our times.
http://www.billhicks.com/links.html
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iHÐ
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05 Oct 2004 05:28:11 PM |
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"Voice of Truth" <voiceoftruth227@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The Empty Cradle Will Rock
How abortion is costing the Democrats voters--literally.
BY LARRY L. EASTLAND
Monday, June 28, 2004 12:01 a.m. EDT
<Flushed>
http://www.musicforamerica.org/node/view/29016
LC~ The "Voice of Truth" seems to a misnomer, as well as running about 3
months slow.
"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you
to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...Our goal is a
Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God, to
conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."
~Randall Terry, Founder of Operation Rescue
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| User: "Patrick Powers" |
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06 Oct 2004 11:45:03 PM |
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(Voice of Truth) wrote in message news:<816e1d8c.0410051326.6fdf3580@posting.google.com>...
The Empty Cradle Will Rock
How abortion is costing the Democrats voters--literally.
I'm disappointed in alt.fan.noam-chomsky. Didn't the Great One teach
you to think and argue instead of just reflex reactions to key words?
This man's argument makes lots of sense. The weakness is that it is
not at all clear that more Democrat than Republican fetuses are
aborted. Could easily be the other way around, due to weakness in sex
education.
Now think about this: most of Europe has a birth rate below 2. Italy
is FAR below, something like 1.2. Muslim immigrants are filling the
need for labor. Should this trend continue Europe will become Muslim.
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| User: "Goodness Godless" |
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07 Oct 2004 08:44:01 PM |
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"Patrick Powers" <frisbieinstein@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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voiceoftruth227@hotmail.com (Voice of Truth) wrote in message
news:<816e1d8c.0410051326.6fdf3580@posting.google.com>...
The Empty Cradle Will Rock
How abortion is costing the Democrats voters--literally.
I'm disappointed in alt.fan.noam-chomsky. Didn't the Great One teach
you to think and argue instead of just reflex reactions to key words?
This man's argument makes lots of sense. The weakness is that it is
not at all clear that more Democrat than Republican fetuses are
aborted. Could easily be the other way around, due to weakness in sex
education.
Now think about this: most of Europe has a birth rate below 2. Italy
is FAR below, something like 1.2. Muslim immigrants are filling the
need for labor. Should this trend continue Europe will become Muslim.
Well, yes, but this only important if you think that Xians are less or
more
stupid than Moslamics. Fortunately, over here in Europe, we do not have
a problem because people are just crawling to get in. As for what Mumbo
Jumbo they have, so long as the are not Facist Fundementalist Christicks
or Facist Fundementalist Moslamist, they will be no problem. But if you
want to live in Europe, you must respect human rights.
Anyway, from a USland Nazi point of view, are not the major part
of your slightly positive birth rate due to the poor excluded Blacks and
Hispanics?
Please, keep your attacks to your own people, you do not have the
faintest idea about the other 95% of the people on this planet.
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Goodness Godless
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08 Oct 2004 12:43:47 AM |
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 04:44:01 +0300, "Goodness Godless"
<goodness@godless.net> wrote:
"Patrick Powers" <frisbieinstein@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Now think about this: most of Europe has a birth rate below 2. Italy
is FAR below, something like 1.2. Muslim immigrants are filling the
need for labor. Should this trend continue Europe will become Muslim.
Well, yes, but this only important if you think that Xians are less or
more
stupid than Moslamics. Fortunately, over here in Europe, we do not have
a problem because people are just crawling to get in.
a look at the UK census
http://www.cursuswalker.co.uk/2001censusresults/
shows that this island is positively crawling with
(390127) Jedi Knights
But if you
want to live in Europe, you must respect human rights.
if only this applied to the governments
Please, keep your attacks to your own people, you do not have the
faintest idea about the other 95% of the people on this planet.
Often this seems to be the case... I have to confess to finding all
this talk of abortion (as some casual political item) to be extremely
tasteless
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| User: "Goodness Godless" |
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08 Oct 2004 07:56:52 PM |
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"BIG ONE" <telaversion@*****.co.uk> wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 04:44:01 +0300, "Goodness Godless"
<goodness@godless.net> wrote:
"Patrick Powers" <frisbieinstein@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Now think about this: most of Europe has a birth rate below 2. Italy
is FAR below, something like 1.2. Muslim immigrants are filling the
need for labor. Should this trend continue Europe will become Muslim.
Well, yes, but this only important if you think that Xians are less or
more
stupid than Moslamics. Fortunately, over here in Europe, we do not
have
a problem because people are just crawling to get in.
a look at the UK census
http://www.cursuswalker.co.uk/2001censusresults/
shows that this island is positively crawling with
(390127) Jedi Knights
Yes and Guess what if you go to the British Census this contempt
for the value of MumboJumbo has been ignored.
But if you
want to live in Europe, you must respect human rights.
if only this applied to the governments
do not tell me that we in Europe have less respect for Human Rights than
the USlanders!
Please, keep your attacks to your own people, you do not have the
faintest idea about the other 95% of the people on this planet.
Often this seems to be the case... I have to confess to finding all
this talk of abortion (as some casual political item) to be extremely
tasteless
Tasteless (Casual political item)! Gosh, you sound like
someone from planet Zob!
Come back to Planet Earth and enjoy and suffer.
And love a bit maybe?
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Goodness Godless
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| User: "BIG ONE" |
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09 Oct 2004 02:49:40 AM |
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On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 03:56:52 +0300, "Goodness Godless"
<goodness@godless.net> wrote:
"BIG ONE" <telaversion@*****.co.uk> wrote :
this island is positively crawling with
(390127) Jedi Knights
Yes and Guess what if you go to the British Census this contempt
for the value of MumboJumbo has been ignored.
did you also look at the figures for the other religions? Had you done
so you would see that there are more Jedi Knights than some of the
worlds 'main' religions
None 7274290
Religion Not Stated 4010658
Muslim 1546626
Hindu 552421
Jedi Knight 390127
Sikh 329358
Jewish 259927
Buddhist 144453
_you_ can choose to ignore this if you want, but i fail to see any
reason for your being so passive towards such a great victory
But if you
want to live in Europe, you must respect human rights.
if only this applied to the governments
do not tell me that we in Europe have less respect for Human Rights than
the USlanders!
perhaps (some) european powerhouses have had time to grow into mature
ways of behaving in ways that have been denied or even ignored
overseas.
Please, keep your attacks to your own people, you do not have the
faintest idea about the other 95% of the people on this planet.
Often this seems to be the case... I have to confess to finding all
this talk of abortion (as some casual political item) to be extremely
tasteless
Tasteless (Casual political item)! Gosh, you sound like
someone from planet Zob!
I hope they talk kindly to you and can cure you of this irrational
belief in their presence ;)
Come back to Planet Earth and enjoy and suffer.
And love a bit maybe?
it's the weekend :)
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| User: "Thomas" |
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08 Oct 2004 02:31:11 PM |
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Now think about this: most of Europe has a birth rate below 2. Italy
is FAR below, something like 1.2. Muslim immigrants are filling the
need for labor. Should this trend continue Europe will become Muslim.
Lots of people say this, but they rather ignore two things: Europe knows
perfectly well what needs to be done to raise birthrates and are in general
doing it,* and secondly we are actually very good at converting muslim
immigrants to the dominant european faiths of atheism, secularism and
agnostisism. Maintaining faith in the Sharia in the face of living in
a massively succesful secular society is simply more double-think than most
people can manage.
*Affordable childcare and indoctriating men to do a fair share of
household duties mainly. There is no way to get european women to
choose family over carrer en-masse, so making fammily and carrer
compatible is the only thing that works.
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: The Empty Cradle: How abortion is costing the Democrats voters |
05 Oct 2004 07:00:19 PM |
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On 05 Oct 2004, Voice of Truth dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
- There were 12,274,368 in the Voting Age Population of 205,815,000
missing from the 2000 presidential election, because of abortions from
1973-82.
- In this year's election, there will be 18,336,576 in the Voting Age
Population missing because of abortions between 1972 and 1986.
- In the 2008 election, 24,408,960 in the Voting Age Population will
be missing because of abortions between 1973-90.
You forgot to mention:
- There are now millions fewer vegetables with untreatable diseases.
- There are now millions fewer cars on the road driven by brain-damaged
drivers.
- There are now millions fewer brain-damaged, diseased Christians out there
thanking gawwwd for giving them life no matter how botched his creation
attempt was.
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Vote for John Kerry
God belongs in church, not the White House.
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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| Title: Re: The Empty Cradle: How abortion is costing the Democrats voters |
06 Oct 2004 04:16:31 PM |
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Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9579AD343CCBFvicman@63.240.76.16>...
On 05 Oct 2004, Voice of Truth dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
- There were 12,274,368 in the Voting Age Population of 205,815,000
missing from the 2000 presidential election, because of abortions from
1973-82.
- In this year's election, there will be 18,336,576 in the Voting Age
Population missing because of abortions between 1972 and 1986.
- In the 2008 election, 24,408,960 in the Voting Age Population will
be missing because of abortions between 1973-90.
You forgot to mention:
- There are now millions fewer vegetables with untreatable diseases.
- There are now millions fewer cars on the road driven by brain-damaged
drivers.
- There are now millions fewer brain-damaged, diseased Christians out there
thanking gawwwd for giving them life no matter how botched his creation
attempt was.
He's also forgetting to adjust the numbers for the women who would have
died from illegal abortions, and the children they would have had later
if they hadn't died.
Lisbeth.
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: The Empty Cradle: How abortion is costing the Democrats voters |
08 Oct 2004 11:01:00 AM |
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Voice of Truth wrote:
The Empty Cradle Will Rock
How abortion is costing the Democrats voters--literally.
BY LARRY L. EASTLAND
Monday, June 28, 2004 12:01 a.m. EDT
More than 40 million legal abortions have been performed and
documented in the 30 years since the U.S. Supreme Court declared
abortion legal. The debate remains focused on the legality and
morality of abortion. What's largely ignored is a factual analysis of
the political consequences of 40 million abortions. Consider:
- There were 12,274,368 in the Voting Age Population of 205,815,000
missing from the 2000 presidential election, because of abortions from
1973-82.
- In this year's election, there will be 18,336,576 in the Voting Age
Population missing because of abortions between 1972 and 1986.
- In the 2008 election, 24,408,960 in the Voting Age Population will
be missing because of abortions between 1973-90.
These numbers will not change. They are based on individual choices
made--aggregated nationally--as long as 30 years ago. Look inside
these numbers at where the political impact is felt most. Do Democrats
realize that millions of Missing Voters--due to the abortion policies
they advocate--gave George W. Bush the margin of victory in 2000?
*****....what an idiot.
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Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
Skype callto://hellward
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