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Religions > Atheism |
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"Gods Truth" |
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20 Nov 2005 07:17:01 PM |
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The good things about atheism |
The good things about atheism...
1) they see the ***** of religion
2) they see the joke of $churches
3) they see the commercialization of the whole $church $racket
4) they see how ridiculous it is to sit there in front of men and women
every Sunday talking of things they don't have a clue about
5) 1000's of different religious ways to heaven? really....hmmmm
6) doctrines that just don't make any sense at all...some say Rapture...some
say "just say no to rapture"
7) atheists say if this hell is from God I want nothing to do with him...I
don't blame them...been there...
8) they plainly see the phoniest of the quote "spirit filled" people
9) watch the newsgroups and see all the hate of...and in religion...
10) why would an atheists want to be apart of such obvious crap?
11) atheists are always looked down at by the worldly Christians...like they
really care...
12) atheist don't believe that if there is a God why go too church$....isn't
he everywhere?
13) to a atheist it's pretty obvious why going to church$ is so important$
14) atheist see allot of soap box preachers standing in front of the
congregations...and see right through them and see there's not much truth
coming from them lips
15) an atheists will wonder what in hell (if there's such a place) does
sinta claws and christ-mas got to do with anything...an atheist will look up
the history of such pagan wholly days and think this is just a bunch of B/S
plain and simple...it's real easy to look up the truth...an atheist will do
just that...most Christians are to lazy or too trusting of the soap
boxers...shame on them...
16) an atheist looks at easter and bunnies and eggs and look will it up the
history of it all and scratch their heads in disbelief and say "you got to
be kidding"...this is Christianity?? "just a bunch of brain washed fools is
all it is"
17) atheists say there is no God...gee I wonder why? hmmm
18) atheists hear from religion that the earth is 7000 years old...they say
What! really? when clearly it's much older than that...Hmmmm oh oh in the
name of God....
19) atheist hear that God the father and his son and the holy spirit are
"one?" than they here they're three "Trinity"...than they hear there's God
the father and Jesus the son of God which makes 2...hmmm I wonder why they
don't believe in much of anything? hmmm
20) could go on...but you get the idea...the bottom line is atheist see
religion and church for what it really is...Hell...(if there's such a place)
For many years I too was an atheists...saw the hell of it all...church and
religion...the franchising of the blood of Christ...go too church give them
your money...buy their books and tapes...and go too heaven...after all
everyone else is doing it...all churches brag about the numbers of the poor
souls...oh oh I mean blessed souls who sit there being spoon fed this hell
every week...
I always hated church...which turned out a blessing from God...cuz I never
was subjected to such hell week after week...I used too watch and listen to
people of different religions argue over religious doctrine...and
think...what a crock of *****...listen to these assholes...and all they
really knew was what the guy standing on the Sunday soap box would tell
them...and week after week...people go to these places...most from their
youth...and than they bring their babies and sit them in front of the Sunday
soap box preacher and the cycle con-tinues how sad religion and church truly
is....
The only Ones that Hate religion and church more than I is God and
Christ...the spirit of religion is the same spirit that murder Jesus my
brother and Lord...that same spirit of hell past down through the
ages...from the Jews to the calf-licks than on too the protestants...same
wicked spirit of death is still here working it's hell in Christianity too
this day...
God and Christ are calling their own too them...you can't serve two
masters...too see the light you first must see the darkness of
religion...what it always has been...hell...yes there is such a place!!!
just go to church...
God bless the atheist cuz they're allot closer to the truth than a pompous
pious religious person who's taken of heart and soul...the hell of church
and religion...cuz at least the atheist is not duped by the obvious hell
that it is...
www.godstruthtous.com
God Bless
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| User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
25 Nov 2005 07:45:45 AM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On 23 Nov 2005 06:39:06 -0800, "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason
Gastrich's effort" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2005 19:52:01 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:01:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:12:50 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:32:09 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:35:16 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
So what's keeping you from pulling the trigger?
Because we still have Faith in Jesus Christ.
That's the one thing that always gets me, that Christians think that
if it wasn't for God, they'd be off raping, pillaging and murdering.
They need a big, bad sky-daddy watching them 24/7 to keep them in
line.
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
So a believer in god doesn't need fear of god to be well-behaved, but
an atheist does?
The fear of God is often a misconceived notion. God is not fearful.
The believer's fear of God is the fear of forsaking God instead of
fearing God himself.
There's a familiar tune: "The bible doesn't mean what it says."
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
26 Nov 2005 09:09:47 PM |
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"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1132926345.799075.82230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Eric Brze wrote:
On 23 Nov 2005 06:39:06 -0800, "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason
Gastrich's effort" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2005 19:52:01 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:01:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:12:50 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:32:09 -0500, Eric Brze
<brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:35:16 -0600, Uncle Vic
<address@withheld.com>
wrote:
So what's keeping you from pulling the trigger?
Because we still have Faith in Jesus Christ.
That's the one thing that always gets me, that Christians think
that
if it wasn't for God, they'd be off raping, pillaging and
murdering.
They need a big, bad sky-daddy watching them 24/7 to keep them in
line.
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
So a believer in god doesn't need fear of god to be well-behaved, but
an atheist does?
The fear of God is often a misconceived notion. God is not fearful.
The believer's fear of God is the fear of forsaking God instead of
fearing God himself.
There's a familiar tune: "The bible doesn't mean what it says."
In archaic English fear means respect, not being afraid of. But I bet
you knew that already and aren't looking to make sense, but much rather to
trash and flame some. Isn't that right?
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
25 Nov 2005 11:13:04 AM |
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On 25 Nov 2005 05:45:45 -0800, "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason
Gastrich's effort" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 23 Nov 2005 06:39:06 -0800, "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason
Gastrich's effort" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:
snip
The fear of God is often a misconceived notion. God is not fearful.
The believer's fear of God is the fear of forsaking God instead of
fearing God himself.
There's a familiar tune: "The bible doesn't mean what it says."
Eric takes it a step further. He has many times explained that he
didn't mean what he said.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
23 Nov 2005 08:03:10 AM |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On 22 Nov 2005 19:52:01 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:01:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:12:50 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:32:09 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:35:16 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
So what's keeping you from pulling the trigger?
Because we still have Faith in Jesus Christ.
That's the one thing that always gets me, that Christians think that
if it wasn't for God, they'd be off raping, pillaging and murdering.
They need a big, bad sky-daddy watching them 24/7 to keep them in
line.
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
I'm not talking about belief. I'm talking about what you want to do.
You just said without your god to tell you otherwise - you want to
rape, pillage and murder.
Do I understand you correctly? Do you have to have a god to tell you
otherwise? If you had absolute proof today that there was no god -
is that how you would want to spend your life? Killing innocent
people? Raping their daughters? Stealing their life savings?
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
23 Nov 2005 10:05:22 PM |
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On 23 Nov 2005 08:03:10 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On 22 Nov 2005 19:52:01 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:01:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:12:50 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:32:09 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:35:16 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
So what's keeping you from pulling the trigger?
Because we still have Faith in Jesus Christ.
That's the one thing that always gets me, that Christians think that
if it wasn't for God, they'd be off raping, pillaging and murdering.
They need a big, bad sky-daddy watching them 24/7 to keep them in
line.
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
I'm not talking about belief. I'm talking about what you want to do.
You just said without your god to tell you otherwise - you want to
rape, pillage and murder.
Do I understand you correctly?
Not at all. That is never what I said. That is somebody else's
misconception.
Do you have to have a god to tell you
otherwise?
In the world of sin and evil, God is the only protector to keep people
from evil, yes.
If you had absolute proof today that there was no god -
is that how you would want to spend your life? Killing innocent
people? Raping their daughters? Stealing their life savings?
If there is no God who is the cause of all good things in this world,
then there would be no reason to live in this world. A world without
God is hell. No one wants to live in hell.
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| User: "RainLover" |
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24 Nov 2005 11:32:55 AM |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
James, Seattle
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
25 Nov 2005 12:02:40 PM |
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"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:r6ubo1t7ckbtktppi07rd71nipidpqa5eo@4ax.com...
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
James, Seattle
You are complaining about the God of the Jews YHVH and His Tanakh, not
the Christ of the NT Bible, who is our God incarnate. He was as inoffensive
as a lamb. Why don't you post your anti-Semitic crap to Judaic groups? I
post you over to them.
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| User: "RainLover" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
28 Nov 2005 10:02:24 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:02:40 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:r6ubo1t7ckbtktppi07rd71nipidpqa5eo@4ax.com...
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
James, Seattle
You are complaining about the God of the Jews YHVH and His Tanakh, not
the Christ of the NT Bible, who is our God incarnate. He was as inoffensive
as a lamb. Why don't you post your anti-Semitic crap to Judaic groups? I
post you over to them.
Anti-Semitic? Just because I spoke of Jews doesn't make me
anti-Semitic. So who *IS* the 'father' of your Jesus if not the God
of the Old Testiment?
James, Seattle
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
01 Dec 2005 05:45:40 AM |
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"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:7damo19opcnh19cbgcbeo04ublr4o0lubl@4ax.com...
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:02:40 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:r6ubo1t7ckbtktppi07rd71nipidpqa5eo@4ax.com...
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
James, Seattle
You are complaining about the God of the Jews YHVH and His Tanakh,
not
the Christ of the NT Bible, who is our God incarnate. He was as
inoffensive
as a lamb. Why don't you post your anti-Semitic crap to Judaic groups? I
post you over to them.
Anti-Semitic? Just because I spoke of Jews doesn't make me
anti-Semitic. So who *IS* the 'father' of your Jesus if not the God
of the Old Testiment?
Are you a carbon copy of your dad, that you should presume that to be
the norm?
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
28 Nov 2005 10:41:59 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:02:24 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:02:40 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:r6ubo1t7ckbtktppi07rd71nipidpqa5eo@4ax.com...
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
James, Seattle
You are complaining about the God of the Jews YHVH and His Tanakh, not
the Christ of the NT Bible, who is our God incarnate. He was as inoffensive
as a lamb. Why don't you post your anti-Semitic crap to Judaic groups? I
post you over to them.
Anti-Semitic? Just because I spoke of Jews doesn't make me
anti-Semitic. So who *IS* the 'father' of your Jesus if not the God
of the Old Testiment?
The father of Jesus is the God in heaven who is the God of the living
human beings, not the god of the dead Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
James, Seattle
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
28 Nov 2005 11:14:02 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:02:24 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:02:40 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:r6ubo1t7ckbtktppi07rd71nipidpqa5eo@4ax.com...
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
James, Seattle
You are complaining about the God of the Jews YHVH and His Tanakh, not
the Christ of the NT Bible, who is our God incarnate. He was as inoffensive
as a lamb. Why don't you post your anti-Semitic crap to Judaic groups? I
post you over to them.
Anti-Semitic? Just because I spoke of Jews doesn't make me
anti-Semitic. So who *IS* the 'father' of your Jesus if not the God
of the Old Testiment?
The father of Jesus is the God in heaven who is the God of the living
human beings, not the god of the dead Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
ROFL
Two fellas arguing about who and what is real, when the whole gambit is nothing
but primitive mythology.
sorry, have to ROFL again
bob
Humanist Brit.
Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more
repugnant to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called
Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and
too inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid, or produces
only atheists and fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of
despotism; and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests; but so
far as respects the good of man in general, it leads to nothing here or
hereafter.
[Thomas Paine]
James, Seattle
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
29 Nov 2005 12:25:50 PM |
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On 28 Nov 2005 23:14:02 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:02:24 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:02:40 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:r6ubo1t7ckbtktppi07rd71nipidpqa5eo@4ax.com...
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
James, Seattle
You are complaining about the God of the Jews YHVH and His Tanakh, not
the Christ of the NT Bible, who is our God incarnate. He was as inoffensive
as a lamb. Why don't you post your anti-Semitic crap to Judaic groups? I
post you over to them.
Anti-Semitic? Just because I spoke of Jews doesn't make me
anti-Semitic. So who *IS* the 'father' of your Jesus if not the God
of the Old Testiment?
The father of Jesus is the God in heaven who is the God of the living
human beings, not the god of the dead Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
ROFL
Two fellas arguing about who and what is real, when the whole gambit is nothing
but primitive mythology.
I'm merely rephrasing the Bible verse to make its meaning more clear
and less misleading.
sorry, have to ROFL again
bob
Humanist Brit.
Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more
repugnant to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called
Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and
too inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid, or produces
only atheists and fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of
despotism; and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests; but so
far as respects the good of man in general, it leads to nothing here or
hereafter.
[Thomas Paine]
James, Seattle
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| User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
29 Nov 2005 12:53:12 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
I'm merely rephrasing the Bible verse to make its meaning more clear
and less misleading.
It's surprising god couldn't do that for itself.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
30 Nov 2005 09:12:53 AM |
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"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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Eric Brze wrote:
I'm merely rephrasing the Bible verse to make its meaning more clear
and less misleading.
It's surprising god couldn't do that for itself.
But God always does everything Himself. See below who did "the works".
Pastor Frank
Jesus in John 14:10: The words that I speak unto you I speak
not of myself, but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."
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30 Nov 2005 09:41:43 AM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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Eric Brze wrote:
I'm merely rephrasing the Bible verse to make its meaning more clear
and less misleading.
It's surprising god couldn't do that for itself.
But God always does everything Himself. See below who did "the works".
Obviously not, else there would be no need for "clarification."
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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02 Dec 2005 05:03:29 AM |
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"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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Eric Brze wrote:
I'm merely rephrasing the Bible verse to make its meaning more clear
and less misleading.
It's surprising god couldn't do that for itself.
But God always does everything Himself. See below who did "the
works".
Obviously not, else there would be no need for "clarification."
There are always those on whom all "clarification" is wasted. Even if
atheists were to see a giant talking face in the sky, calling itself God and
telling them what's what, they wouldn't accept, for they are contrarians at
heart.
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| User: "RainLover" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
02 Dec 2005 10:22:28 AM |
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 11:03:29 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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Eric Brze wrote:
I'm merely rephrasing the Bible verse to make its meaning more clear
and less misleading.
It's surprising god couldn't do that for itself.
But God always does everything Himself. See below who did "the
works".
Obviously not, else there would be no need for "clarification."
There are always those on whom all "clarification" is wasted. Even if
atheists were to see a giant talking face in the sky, calling itself God and
telling them what's what, they wouldn't accept, for they are contrarians at
heart.
because atheists don't believe the likes of YOU and your claims that
your mythological god is REAL (as opposed to all the others), you say
atheists are contrarian about all things?
More of the Franklogic I see.
Asking QUESTIONS does not make one contrarian nor does it mean the
question asker never believes anything... we just don't believe in
your god.
James, Seattle
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
04 Dec 2005 03:14:37 PM |
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"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 11:03:29 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1133290392.238618.238530@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Eric Brze wrote:
I'm merely rephrasing the Bible verse to make its meaning more clear
and less misleading.
It's surprising god couldn't do that for itself.
But God always does everything Himself. See below who did "the
works".
Obviously not, else there would be no need for "clarification."
There are always those on whom all "clarification" is wasted. Even if
atheists were to see a giant talking face in the sky, calling itself God
and
telling them what's what, they wouldn't accept, for they are contrarians
at
heart.
because atheists don't believe the likes of YOU and your claims that
your mythological god is REAL (as opposed to all the others), you say
atheists are contrarian about all things?
Your denial just proves my point. instead why not show us where atheists
are positive, promoting and advocating anything or anyone showing them to be
good?
we just don't believe in your god.
That's most likely just another lie, for my "God is love" (1 John
4:8,16) and most atheists, excepting you of course, believe in love, neither
would they question love. You have to be a real dunce to ask "why?" or
"prove it!!" of another says "I love you".
Pastor Frank
1Jn:4:8: He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us.
GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
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| User: "RainLover" |
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05 Dec 2005 08:56:41 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 21:14:37 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 11:03:29 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1133290392.238618.238530@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Eric Brze wrote:
I'm merely rephrasing the Bible verse to make its meaning more clear
and less misleading.
It's surprising god couldn't do that for itself.
But God always does everything Himself. See below who did "the
works".
Obviously not, else there would be no need for "clarification."
There are always those on whom all "clarification" is wasted. Even if
atheists were to see a giant talking face in the sky, calling itself God
and
telling them what's what, they wouldn't accept, for they are contrarians
at
heart.
because atheists don't believe the likes of YOU and your claims that
your mythological god is REAL (as opposed to all the others), you say
atheists are contrarian about all things?
Your denial just proves my point. instead why not show us where atheists
are positive, promoting and advocating anything or anyone showing them to be
good?
I've shown you PAGES of examples of things I personally advocate and
show to be good, but EVERY TIME I post them, you quietly SNIP those
things in favor of one tidbit of one line that you can attack.
You don't want to believe that atheists can do and be good, so you are
blind to it, even when the words are right in front of your face.
we just don't believe in your god.
That's most likely just another lie, for my "God is love" (1 John
4:8,16) and most atheists, excepting you of course, believe in love, neither
would they question love. You have to be a real dunce to ask "why?" or
"prove it!!" of another says "I love you".
Saying that because I believe in LOVE means I believe in (but deny)
your god is the same as saying that because *YOU* believe in the SUN,
you believe in, but deny Mithras.
Why do you always get to have exceptions to your Franklogic© when it
suits you?
James, Seattle
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
06 Dec 2005 07:27:06 AM |
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"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 21:14:37 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
we just don't believe in your god.
That's most likely just another lie, for my "God is love" (1 John
4:8,16) and most atheists, excepting you of course, believe in love,
neither
would they question love. You have to be a real dunce to ask "why?" or
"prove it!!" of another says "I love you".
Saying that because I believe in LOVE means I believe in (but deny)
your god is the same as saying that because *YOU* believe in the SUN,
you believe in, but deny Mithras.
What do the sun or Mithra represent? Gods represent principles or they
are not gods.
Why do you always get to have exceptions to your Franklogic© when it
suits you?
Why do you consider those Christians, who have no idea what the God of
Christ is, nor know how Christ defined His God? Are you simple-minded and
believe someone without question, when the person calls him/herself a
Christian?
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
06 Dec 2005 07:50:01 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 21:14:37 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
we just don't believe in your god.
That's most likely just another lie, for my "God is love" (1 John
4:8,16) and most atheists, excepting you of course, believe in love,
neither
would they question love. You have to be a real dunce to ask "why?" or
"prove it!!" of another says "I love you".
Saying that because I believe in LOVE means I believe in (but deny)
your god is the same as saying that because *YOU* believe in the SUN,
you believe in, but deny Mithras.
What do the sun or Mithra represent? Gods represent principles or they
are not gods.
Why do you always get to have exceptions to your Franklogic© when it
suits you?
Why do you consider those Christians, who have no idea what the God of
Christ is, nor know how Christ defined His God? Are you simple-minded and
believe someone without question.......
.......which is what simple minded religionists have been doing for the past
two thousands years.
<Guffaw>
when the person calls him/herself a
Christian?
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| User: "bob young" |
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03 Dec 2005 12:18:05 AM |
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RainLover wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 11:03:29 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1133365303.867789.39350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1133290392.238618.238530@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Eric Brze wrote:
I'm merely rephrasing the Bible verse to make its meaning more clear
and less misleading.
It's surprising god couldn't do that for itself.
But God always does everything Himself. See below who did "the
works".
Obviously not, else there would be no need for "clarification."
There are always those on whom all "clarification" is wasted. Even if
atheists were to see a giant talking face in the sky, calling itself God and
telling them what's what, they wouldn't accept, for they are contrarians at
heart.
because atheists don't believe the likes of YOU and your claims that
your mythological god is REAL (as opposed to all the others), you say
atheists are contrarian about all things?
More of the Franklogic I see.
Asking QUESTIONS does not make one contrarian nor does it mean the
question asker never believes anything... we just don't believe in
your god.
or any of these gods:
Preface:
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one
fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other
possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
[Stephen Roberts]
Ahura Mazda, Allah, Aphrodite, Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Babaluaye,
Bacchus,
Baldur, Bast, Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen,
Demeter, Diana, Dione, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, Eleggua, , El Shaddai, Elohim Eshu,
Ereshkigal,
Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Lord Genesa, Hades, Hebe, Hera, Helios, Hel,
Hephaestus,
Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna, Indra, Ishana, Ishtar,
Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter, Kali. Krishna Kronos, Korravai,
Loki, Lugh, Lord Indra, Manitou, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius, Morrigan,
Nahuiquiahuitl, Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Neptune, Obatala, Odin, Ogun,
Oshosi, Oshun, Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto,
Persephone, Poseidon, Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Lord Rama, Rhea, Saturn,
Set,
Selene, Shango, Lord Siva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Uranus, Venus, Vesta, Vishnu,
Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus, XodA.
African gods:
[Note under 'African Gods' the number devoted to 'Supremacy']
Abassi [Sky]
Abonsam [Evil]
Abora [Supreme]
Abzu [Water]
Acoran [Supreme]
Adaheli [Sun]
Adro [Sky]
Adroa [Sky]
Agassou [Panther]
Agbe-Naete [Water]
Age [Animals]
Aigamuxa [Monster]
Ajalamo[Unborn Children]
Aje [Wealth]
Ajok [Supreme]
Akonadi [Oracle]
Akongo [Supreme]
Akuj [Supreme]
Ala [Earth/Fertility]
Alatangana [Creator]
Amma [Creator]
Anansi [Trickster]
Anyiewo [Snake]
Aondo [Creator]
Apa [Creator]
Apedemak [War]
Arawa [Moon]
Arebati [Sky]
Arom [Contracts]
Arsan Duolai [Underworld]
Asase Ya [Earth]
Ashiakle [Wealth]
Asis [Sun]
Astar [Sky]
Ataa Naa
Nyongmo
[Creator]
Ataokoloinona [Supreme]
Atete [Fertility]
Avrikiti [Fishermen]
Ayabba
[Ayaba] [Hearth]
Bacax [Cave]
Bagba [Wind]
Balubaal [Earth+]
Bandara [Superior Gods]
Banga [Clear water]
Behanzin [Fish]
Beher [Sea]
Bera Pennu [Vegetation]
Bo [Warriors]
Bomazi[Ancestors]
Buadza [WInd]
Buck[River]
Buku [Sky]
Bumba [Creator]
Cagn [Creator]
(!Kaggen)
Cghene [Creator]
Chiuke
(Chuku) [Creator]
Chiata [Supreme]
Chwezi [Hero]
Col [Rain]
Chikara [Sky]
Danh
(Dan Ayido Hwedo) [Snake]
Deng [Sky]
Deohako [Beans+]
Dii Mauri [Moorish Gods]
Dongo [Outer Space]
Dugbo [Earth]
Dxui [Creator]
Emeli-hi [Supreme]
Eranoranhan [Protector]
Eshu (Elegba) [Trickster]
Fa [Destiny]
Famien [Fertility]
Faro [Sky/Water]
Fidi Mukullu [Creator]
Garang and Abuk [First Humans]
Gbeni [Chief]
Gei (Gou) [Moon]
Gu [War/Smiths]
Gua [Sky]
Gulu [Supreme]
Gunab [Evil]
Guruhi [Evil]
Gurzil [Bull]
Gwalu [Rain]
Hammon [Setting Sun]
Harun and Haruna [Water Spirits]
Heitsi-Eibib [Sorcerer]
Hevioss [Thunder]
Huntin [Tree]
Huvean [Creator]
Ifa [Oracul]
Ikenga [Supreme]
Imana [Creator]
Iruwa [Sun]
Juok [Creator]
Kalumba [Creator]
Kalunga Supreme]
Katavi [Demonic]
Ka Tyeleo [Supreme]
Khebieso [Lightening]
Kho-dumo-dumo [Demon]
Kholomodumo [Monster]
Khuzwane [Creator]
Kibuka [War]
Kokola [Guardian]
Kwammang-a [Supreme]
Kwoth [Spirit]
Kyala [Creator]
Legba [Trickster]
Leza [Chief]
Libanza [Supreme]
Lisa [Chameleon]
Lyangombe[Chief]
Macardit [Demon]
Mantis [Creator]
Massim-Biambe [Creator]
Mawu [Sky]
Mawu-Lisa [Supreme Couple]
Mbotumbo [Supreme]
Medr [Earth]
Moomb [Creator]
Mon [?]
Mugasa
Mugu [Sky]
Mujaji [Rain]
Mukasa [Supreme]
Mula Djadi [Creator]
Muluku [Supreme]
Mulungu
Mungu [Creator]
Mungo (Mungu) [?]
Musa (Teaching]
Musisi [Supreme]
Mwari [Supreme]
Nampa [Personal]
Nana-Bouclou [First Gods]
Nana Buluk [Creator]
Ndjambi [Sky]
Ndriananahary [Supreme]
Nduru [Jungle]
Nenaunir [Storm]
Nesshoue [River]
Ngai ('Ngai) [Creator]
Ngewo-wa [Creator]
Ngworekara [Demon]
Niamye [Supreme]
Nkosi Yama'kosi [Supreme]
Nommo [Elemental]
Nommo [Spirit]
Nyama [Animal]
Nyambe [Supreme]
Nyambi (Nyambe) [Supreme]
Nyame
Nyami-Nyami [Guardian]
Nyankopon (Ashanti:Nyame) [Supreme]
Nyamia Ama [Supreme]
Nyasaye [Supeme]
Nzambi (Nzambi)
Mpunguo) [Supreme]
Nzame [Supreme]
Obassi Osaw [Supreme]
Obatala [Sky]
Oduduwa (Odudua) [Earth]
Ogun (Ogoun) War]
Olokula [Sea]
Olorun [Supreme]
Omumbo-Rombonga [Tree of Life]
Orahan [Supreme]
Orisa Nla [Creator]
Orishako [Agriculture]
Orunjan [Midday Sun]
Orunmila [Compassion]
Oshalla [?]
Osun [Beauty and Love]
Oya [Passion and Power]
Pemba (Bemba) Mother]
Qandisa [Demon]
Qamata[Quamta] Supreme]
Rock-Sene [Supreme]
Ruwa [Supreme]
Sagbata [Smallpox]
Sakarabru [Medicine]
Sakpata [Smallpox]
Sango [Thunder]
Shango [Thunder]
So [Lightening]
Tano [River]
Tore [Forest]
Trowu[Spirits]
Tsui'goab [Rain]
Twe [Lake]
Umvelinqangi [Creator]
Unkulunkulu [Supreme]
Unumbotte [Creator]
Waka [Rain]
Wele [Supreme]
Wulbari [Supreme]
Wuni [Supreme]
Xewioso [Thunder]
Yemaja [Creation]
Yo [Impersonal]
Zin [Water]
Table of Asian Gods:
BUDDHIST
Abhijnaraja [Physician]
Abhimukhi [One of the Bhumis]
Acala [?]
Adhimukticarya [One of the Bhumis]
Adhimuktivasita [One of the Bhumis]
Adibuddha [First]
Adidharma [Primeval]
Aizen Myo-o [Protective]
Ajaya [?]
Akasagarbha(Tibetan Nam-mkhai
Aksayajnana-Karmanda [Literature]
Aksobhya (Japanese Ashuku, Chinese A-Chu'u) [One of the Dhyani]
Amida [Savior]
Amitabha [A Dhyani]
Amitayus [Longevity]
Amoghapasa [see Avalokitesvara]
Amoghasiddhi [A Dhyani]
Anantamukhi [Literature]
Arapacana [Book and Sword]
Arcismati [Bhumis]
Arhat [A Saint]
Arthapratisamvit [Logical Analysis]
Arya-Tara [Sakti]
Asokakanta [avatar Marici]
Asokottamasri [Physician]
Astabhuja-Kurukulla [avatar Kurukulla]
Asura [Group of Demons]
Avalokitesvara(Avalokita, Lokesvara) [Dhyani Present Age]
Ayurvasita[One vasitas]
Balaparamita [Philosophy]
Bhaisajyaguru(Sman-bla, Otaci,Yao-shih-fo, Yakushi)[Physician]
Bhima[Attendant]
Bhrkuti[Female]
Bhrkuti-Tara [Mother]
Bhumi [Spiritual Spheres]
Bhutadarma [Demon Controller]
Bi-har [Protector]
Bodhidharma [Monk]
Bodhisattva (Chinese Pu-sa) [Born to be Englightened]
Buddhabodhiprabhavasita [Vasitas]
Buddhalocana [Female Buddha]
Budha [Mercury]
Butcho [?]
Chandarosana [Mahayana]
Charcika (Carcika) [Mahayana]
Chakravartin [World Ruler]
Chattrosnisa [An Usnisa]
Chaturmaharajas (Caturmaharajas) [Four Great Kings]
Chittavista [Vashitas]
Citipati [Graveyard Demons]
Cunda [Literature]
Da-shi-zhi [Bodhisattva]
Dadimunda [Temples]
Dainichi' [Purity/Wisdom]
Dakini [Demons]
Dala Kadavara [Demon]
Devaputra [Gods of Lower Rank]
Dhanada [avatar Amoghasiddhi]
Dharani [Mystical Texts]
Dharmadhatuvagisvara [Dharma]
Dharmakirtisagaraghosa [Physician]
Dharmamegha [Bhumis]
Dharmapala ,Chinese Fu Ha [Protective Dieties]
Dharmapratisamvit [Nature Analysis]
Dharmavasita [Vasitas]
Dhritarashtra (Pali Dhatarattha) [One of the 4 World Guardians]
Dhupa [Mother]
Dhupatara [Mahayana]
Dhvajagrakeyura [avatar Aksobhya]
Dhyanaparamita [Philosophy]
Dhyani-Bodhisattvas [Five Bodhisattvas]
Dhyani-Buddhas [Five Meditators]
Di-zang [Bodhisattvas of Hell]
Dvarapala [?]
Ekajata [Terrible]
Emma-o [Judges the Dead]
Fudo [WIsdom]
Guan Yin [bodhisattva]
Hariti [Ate Children]
Hayagriva [Protection]
Heruka [Protection]
Hevajra [Protection]
Ida-Ten [Law/Monestaries]
Jambhala [avatar Vausravana]
Janguli [Snakebite cure]
Jian Lao [Earth/Permanence]
Jizo [Compassion]
Juichimen [Mercy]
Kali devia [avatar Lha-mo]
Kannon [Japanese bodhisattva]
Khasarpana(Khasarpana-Lokesvara) [Indian bodhisattva]
Ki Fudo [avatar Fudo-Myo-o]
Krodhadevatas [Inspire Terror]
Ksitigarbha [One of 8 bodhisattva]
Kuan-yin (Kwannon) [Mercy]
Kujaku Myoo [Esoteric]
Kurukulla [?]
Locana [?]
Mahasthamaprata [Chinese bodhisattva]
Maitreya [Future]
Manjughosa [Nepalese bodhisattva]
Manjusri [bodhisattva]
Mara [Evil]
Marici [Sun]
Mi-lo Fo (Pu-Sa) [Chinese bodhisattva
Miroku [Japanese bodhisattva
Mo-Li [Protects Temples]
Padmanartesvara [avatar Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara]
Pancaraksa[5 Goddesses]
Pandara [?]
Paramasva [?]
Parnasavari [?]
Prajna [Femaleness]
Prajnaparamita [Buddhist Text]
Ran-deng [Beggar and Future Buddha]
Ratnapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
Ratnasambhava [Dhyani-Buddha]
Remanta [King of the Horse gods]
Sakyamuni [Japanese]
Samantabhadra [Bodhisattvas]
Saptaksara [avatar Heruka]
Shakra [King of the Gods]
Ssu Ta T'ien Wang [Kings of Heaven]
Sumbharaja [Buddhist Krodhadevata]
Tennin (Tennyo) [angels]
Usnisavijaya [?]
Vairocana [Dhyani-Buddhas]
Vaisravana (Pali Vessavana, Chinese Do Wen) [Guards World]
Vajrabhairava [?]
Vajrapani [Bodhisattvas]
Vajrasattva [Nepal Dhyani-Buddha]
Vajravarahi [?]
Vajrayogini [Initiation]
Vajrayogini [Riches]
Vidyadharas [?]
Vidyujjvalakarali [?]
Vighnantaka [?]
Virudhaka (Pali Virulha, Chinese Zheng Zhang) [Guards World]
Virupaksa (Pali Virupakkha, Chinese Guand Mu) [Guards Western Heaven]
Visvapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
We-to [Divine General]
Yakushi Nyorai [Healing]
Yama [?]
Yamantaka [Krodhadevatas]
Zhu Dian (Zhu Tian) [Chinese Buddhist gods]
CHINESE GODS
Ao [Sea]
Awun [Destruction]
Ba [Drought]
Ba Gua [Basis of Divination]
Bo Hsian [Taoist]
Cai-Shen [Riches]
Can Cong [Silkworms]
Cao Guo-jiu [Actors]
Chang Fei [War]
Chang Hs'ien [Children]
Chang Kuo-lao [?]
Ch'ang E (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Moon]
Chang Tao Ling [Afterlife]
Cheng-huang (Ch'eng Huang) [Guardians]
Chen Jen [Spiritual Beings]
Cheng San-Kung [Fishermen]
Cheng Yuan Ho (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Buskers]
Chih Nu [Weavers]
Chih Sung-Tzu (Chi Sung Tzu) [Rain]
Chih-Yu [Inventor]
Ch'in-Shu-Pao [Guardian]
Chou Wang [Sodomy]
Chu-Chuan Shen [Pigsties]
Chu Jung [Fire]
Chu Lung [Day/Night]
Chung K'uei [Afterlife]
Chung-li Ch'uan [Immortal]
Confucius [Philosopher]
Di Zhang Xia [?]
Dong-yo Da-di [Helps Sky God]
Erh-Lang [Guardian]
Fan-K'uei [Butchers]
Fei Lien (Fei Lian) [Wind]
Feng-Huang (Hoang-female Phuong-male) [Many Meanings]
Feng Po (Feng-Po) [Human form of the wind]
Feng P'o-p'o (Feng-Po-Po) [Female wind]
Fo [Buddha]
Fu His [Taught Humanity]
Fu Hsing [Happiness]
Fu Shen [Happiness]
Fu-Shou-Lu [Collection of Gods]
Fu-xi [Hero]
Gao Yao (Ting-jian) [Judgement]
Gong Gong [Common Workers]
Gou Mang and Ru Shou [Messengers]
Guan Di (Kuan Ti) [War/Fortune Telling]
Gui Xian [Demon]
Han Hsiang [Immortal]
Han Xiang-zi [Immortal]
He Bo (Bing-yi) [Rivers]
Heng E (Change-e) [Moon]
He Xian-gu [Immortal]
Heng-Ha-Erh-Chiang [Temples]
Heng-o [Moon]
Ho Hsien-ku [Immortal]
Ho Po [River]
Hou Chi [Harvest]
Hou I [Archer]
Hou T'u [Earth]
Hsien [Taoists]
Hsi Ho [Sun's Creator]
Hsi Wang Mu [Guardian]
Hsuan-T'ien-Shang-Ti [Dark Heaven]
Hua Hsien [Flower]
Huang-di (Huang Ti) (Shun) [Hero]
Huang Fei-hu (Fei) [Mountain]
Hu-Shen [Hail]
I [Bowmen]
Infoniwoo [Generation]
I-Ti [Wine]
K'ai Lu Shen [Purges Evil]
Kuan Yu [War]
K'uei Hsing [Examinations]
Lan Cai-he [Immortal]
Lao T'ien Yeh [Supreme]
Lao-Tzu (Lao-zi) [Philosopher]
Lei Kung [Storm]
Lei-zi [Thunder]
Li [Fire]
Li Tie-guai [Immortal]
Liu [Crops]
Lu Dong-bin (Lu Yan) [Immortal]
Lu-Hsing [Salaries/Employees]
Lung Wang [Dragon King]
Lupan [Carpenters]
Ma-Mien [Bureaucrat]
Meng (Meng P'o) [Underworld]
Meng-T'ien [Writing Brush]
Men Shen [Doors, includes sometimes Wei Cheng]
Mu Gong [Immortals]
Niu-Y'oun [Police]
Nu Gua (Nu Kua, Nu Wa) [Creator and Marriage]
O-Mi-T'o Fo [Amitabha]
Pa [Drought]
Pa-Cha [Anti-locusts]
Pa-Hsien [Eight Immortals]
P'an-Chin-Lien [Prostitues]
'P'an Ku (Panku, Pangu) [Cosmos]
Pi-Hsia-Yuan-Chun [Childbirth]
Puhsien [Sun]
Ran-deng [Future Buddha]
San Ch'inga [Three Taos]
Shang Di (Shang Ti) [Supreme]
She Chi (Thu) [Earth]
Shen [Spirit]
Sheng Jen [Holy]
Shen-nong(Shen Nung) [Hero]
Shen-T'u [Guardian]
Shen Yi [Sun]
Shiang Ku [Magician]
Shih-Tien Yen-Wang [Committe of Ten]
Shou-Hsing [Longevity]
Shou Lao (Shou Xing Lao Tou-zi) [Long Life]
Shou-Ts'ang [Servant]
Shui-Fu [Water]
Shui-Kuan [Defender]
Ssu Ming [Life and Death]
Sung-Chiang [Theives]
Sun Hou-Tzu [Monkey]
Sun Hou-zi [Apes]
Sun-Pin [Cobblers]
T'ai I [High]
Tai-sui-xing [Time]
Tai-yi [Sky]
T'ai Yueh Ta Ti (Tung-Yueh-Ta-Ti, T'ai-Yo, Ta-Ti) [Peak]
Thu [Earth]
Tian [Sky]
Tian-zhu [Catholic]
Tien (T'ien) [Sky]
Tien-Hou (T'ien Fei) [Heaven]
T'ien-Kuan [Happiness]
T'ien Lung [Dragon]
Tien Mu [Lightening]
Tien-Wang (Mo-Li) [Kings]
Ti-Kuan [Foregiveness]
Ti Nu (Ti-ya) [Earth]
Ti-Tsang-Wang-Pu-Sa [Mercy]
Ti Yu [Afterlife]
Tou Nu [North Star]
Ts'ai-Lun [Stationers]
Ts'ai Shen [Wealth]
Tsan [Demons]
Ts'ang Chien [Hearth]
Tsao Shen [?]
Tsao-Wang [Hearth]
Tu [Earth]
Tung Wang Kung [Ruled Male Immortals]
T'u-ti (Ti-Ti) [Locality]
Wang [Palace Door]
Wang-Mu-Niang-Niang [Guardian]
Wen Ch'ang (Wen-Chang-Ta-Ti) [Literature]
Wen-Shu Yen-K'ung [Manjushri]
Wen Pu [Epidemics]
Wu Ti [Myth]
Xian [Spirits]
Xi-Wang-mu [Immortality]
Yama [Seventh hell]
Yan-lo (Yan Wang) [Underworld Prince]
Yao [Wind Conqueror]
Yao-shi-fo [Physician]
Yao Wang [Medicine]
Yeng-Wang-Yeh [Death]
Yen Wang (Yen Lo) [Underworld Judge]
Yin and Yang [Male and Female]
Yo Fei [War]
Yu-Chiang [Ocean Winds]
Yu-di (Yu Huang) [Supreme]
Yueh Fei [War]
Yu Huang (Yu-Huang-Shang-Ti) [High]
Yun T'ung [Clouds]
Yu-qiang [Sea]
Yu Shih [Rain]
Yu-tzu [Rain]
Zao Jun [Kitchen]
Zhang Guo-lao [Immortal]
Zhong-Kui [Literature and Examinations]
Zhong-li Quan [Immortal]
[Sources: Brief History of Ancient Chinese Mythology]
Finnish Gods:
Ahto [Water]
Akka [Harvest]
Egres [Vegetation/Fertility]
Hiisi [Forest/Evil]
Ilma [Air]
Ilmarinen [Sky]
Inmar [Sky]
Juma [Sky]
Jumala (Mader-Atcha, Ukk) [Thunder+]
Kalevanpojat [Demons]
Kalma [Death]
Kekri [Fertility Feast]
Kipu-Tytto [Illness]
Kondos [Sowing Crops]
Kuu [Moon]
Lemminkainen [Hero]
Louhi [Sorcery/Evil]
Loviatar [Disease]
Luonnotar [Creator]
Madderakka [Dwarves]
Maahiset [Dwarves]
Naaki [Water]
Nyrckes [?]
Olmai (Olmay) [Divine properties]
Pajainen [?]
Pajonn [Thunder]
Para [Goblin Like]
Pellonpekko [Barley]
Raudna [?]
Rutu [Devil]
Sampsa [Vegetation]
Seides [Stones]
Rauni [?]
Tapio [Forest]
Tiermes [Thunder]
Tuoni [Underworld
Tursas [Monster]
Ukko (Isainen) [Thunder]
Vainamoinen [Hero]
Veralden-radien [World Pillars]
Waralden Olmai [World]
JAPANESE GODS
Aji-Suki-Taka-Hi-Kone (Aji-Shiki-Taka-Hiko-Ne) [Thunder]
Ama-No-Minakanushi-No-Kumi [Pole Star]
Ame-No-Oshido-Mimi [Refusal]
Ama-No-Uzume [Fertility]
Ama-Tsu-Kami [Heavenly Gods]
Amatsu Mikaboshi [Evil]
Ame-No-Hohi [Disappeared]
Ame-No-Wakahiko [Ruled Earth]
Bimbo-Gami [Poverty]
Bishamon [War]
Chimata-No-Kami [Rain/Sea]
Daikoku [Wealth]
Ebisu [Labor]
Fuchi [Fire]
Fukurokuju (Fukuro kuju) [Wisdom]
Futsunushi [Lightening]
Gozu-Tenno [Plague]
Haya-Ji (Haya-Tsu-Muji-No-Kami) [Whirlwind]
Hikohohodemi [Hero]
Hinokagutsuchi [Fire]
Hiruko [Morning Sun]
Hoderi [?]
Hisa-Me [Devils]
Ho-Masubi (Kagu Zuchi) [Fire]
Hosuseri [?]
Hotei [Laughter]
Inari [Prosperity]
Izanagi [Creator]
Izanami [Mother]
Jikoku [Guardians]
Jimmu Tenno [Founder]
Jurojin (Jorojin) [Longevity]
Kagu-tsuchi [Fire]
Kamado-gami [Hearth]
Kami [Divinities]
Kami-Musubi (Kami-mi-masubi) [?]
Kami-Nari [Thunder]
Kamui [Sky]
Kappa [Water]
Kawa-No-Kami [Rivers]
Kishijoten [Luck]
Kishimojin [Demon]
Komoku [South]
Kompira [Wealth]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime (Kono-no-hana-saku-ya-hime) [?]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime Kuni-Toko-tachi [First]
Kuni-Tsu-Kami [Earth]
Kura-Okami [Rain/Snow]
Nai-No-Kami [Earthquakes]
Naka-Yama-Tsu-Mi [Mountain Slopes]
Ningyo [Mermaid]
Ninigi [Ruler Earth]
O-Kuni-Nushi (Okuninushi) [Medicine/Sorcery]
Onamuji [Earth]
Omiwa [Protective]
Oni [Demons]
O-Wata-Tsumi [Sea]
O-Yama-Tsu-Mi (O-yama-tsuni) [Mountain]
Raiden [Thunder]
Ryo-Wo [Sea]
Ryujin (Ryugin) [Thunder/Rain]
Sae-No-Kami [Roads]
Sengen-Sama [Guarded Holy Moutain]
Sennin [Immortals]
Shichi-Fukujin [Luck]
Shiko-Me [Devils]
Shine-Tsu-Hiko [Wind]
Shitatera-Hime [?]
Shi-tenno [Cardinal Direction Guardians]
Shojo [Satyrs]
Soko-No-Kuni [Underworld]
Suitengu [Sea]
Sukuna-bikone (Suku-na-biko) [Hot Springs]
Shoki [Enemy of Devils]
Susanowo (Susanoo, Susa-no-wo) [Storms]
Takamimusubi (Taka-mi-masubi) [Royal Family]
Takemikadzuchi [Thunder]
Take-Mi-Musubi [Sun]
Taki-Tsu-Hiko [Rain]
Tatsuta-hime [Autumn]
Ten-gu (Tengu) [Mountain/Forest]
Tenjin (Temmangu) [Learning/Calligraphy]
Tsuki-Yomi (Tsukiyomi) [Moon]
Uji-gami [Ancestors]
Uke-Mochi-No-Kami (Ukemochi, Waka-Uke-Nomi, Toyo-Uke-Bime) [Fertility and Food]
Uzume [Mirth]
Wakahiru-me [Rising Sun]\
Wata-tsu-mi [Sea]
Yabune [House]
Zocho [South]
Shinto Amaterasu [Sun]
Ama-Tsu-Mara [Smiths]
Ame-No-Kagase-Wo [Astral]
Ame-No-Mi-Kumari-No-Kami [Water]
Amenominakanushi (Ame-No-Minaka-Nushi-No-Kami) [Supreme]
Am-No-Tanabata-Hime-No-Mikoto [Weavers]
Ame-No-Toko-Tachi-No-Kami [Elemental]
Ame-no-uzume [Dancers]
Benten (Benten-San, Benzaiten, Benzaiten) [Eloquence+]
Fujin [Wind]
Hachiman [War]
Ho-musubi [Fire]
Kami [Idols]
SOUTH ASIAN GODS
Cao Dai(Chinese: Gao-Tai) [Supreme]
Debata [?]
Empung Luminuut [?]
Hainuwele [?]
Hananim [Sky]
Hmin [Ague]
Karei [Supreme]
Kinharingan [Creator]
Kud [Evil]
Laseo [Sun]
Lature Dano [Supreme]
Lowalangi(Lowalani) [World Above]
Mahatala (Mahataral) [Supreme?]
Ma-zu [?]
Nanmata (Namite) [Primeval]
Narbrooi [Woodlands]
Nemu [Primodial]
Palk [Sun]
Puang Matowa [Sky]
Pulug [Thunder]
Reahu [Dark Demon]
Rigenmucha [Supreme]
Silewe Nazarata [?]
Sirao [First]
Ta Pedn [?]
Tnong [Sun]
Tumbrenjak [Original Man]
Upulevo [Sun]
Wunekau [Sun]
CENRAL AND WEST ASIAN GODS
Abyrga [Snake]
Afi [Rain/Thunderstorms]
Aitvaras [Evil]
Alardi [Spirit]
Aralo [Agriculutre]
Armaz [Supreme]
Auseklis (Ausrine) [Stellar]
Baba [Spirit]
Baba Yaga (Jezi-Baba) [Ogress]
Bagvarti [?]
Bangputys [Sea]
Bannik [Baths]
Bagisht [Flood/Prosperity]
Barastir (Barastaer) [Underworld]
Bardha [Elves]
Beg-tse (Cam-srin) [War]
Beng [Satan]
Biegg-Olmai [Wind]
Bogatyri [Heroes]
Boldogasszony (Kisboldogasszony) [Protector Women/Children]
Bolla (Bullar) [Demon]
Buga [Supreme]
Bukura e dheut
[Good Spirit]
Bukuri e qiellit [Jehovah]
Byelobog (Bielbog) [?]
Byelun [?]
Chernobo(Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [?]
Chors [Sun]
Dabog [Sun]
Deive [Stone Spirits]
Dieva deli [?]
Dievini [Less Known Gods]
Dievs [Sky]
Djall [Devil]
Domovoi (Domovoy) [Household]
Donbittir [Water/Fish]
Drag-gshed [Eight Terrible Gods]
Dud [Heavenly Spirit]
Dvorovoi [Courtyard]
Dyavo [Demons]
En [?]
Erlik [King of the Dead]
Es [Sky]
Fatit [Destiny]
Fene [Demon]
Gabija (Gabieta, Gabeta) [Fire]
Gabjauja [Corn]
Giltine [Death]
Guta [Demon]
Hadur [War]
Himavat [Himalayas]
Horagalles [War]
Isdustaya and Papaya [Fate]
Isten [Supreme]
Jagaubis [Fire]
Jarovit (Gerovitus) [War]
Jessis [avatar Jupiter]
Jumis [Fertility]
Juras Mate [Water]
Kaka-Guia [Funerary]
Kalvis [Smith]
Karta [Fate]
Kaukas [?]
Khors [Health/Hunting]
Khyung-gai mGo-can [?]
Kikimora [Household]
K'op'ala [Protective]
Kukuth (Kukudhi) [Sickness]
Kulshedra (Kucedre) [Demon]
Kun-tu-bzan-po [Chief Bon]
Kupala [Water/Magic/Herbs]
Kurdalaegon [Blacksmiths]
Laima [Fate]
Lamaria [Hearth]
Laskowice (Leshcia) [Forest]
Lauka Mate [Fields/Fertility]
Laume [Fairy]
Leshy [Forest]
Lha [Bon Gods]
Lhamo [?]
Ljeschi (Lychie) [Fauns and Satyrs]
Ljubi [Demon]
Manzasiri [Primeval]
Mate [Mother]
Mati Syra Zemlya [Earth]
Medeine (Mejdejn) [Woods]
Meness [Moon]
Menulis [Moon]
Meza Mate [Nature]
Mirsa [Light]
Mokos [Fertility]
Mu (rMu) [Heavenly]
Muma Padura [Wood]
Myesyats (Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [Moon]
Nang Lha [Household]
Nari [Demon]
Nari [Sky]
Num [Sky]
Odqan [Fire]
Ora [Protective]
Ordog [Dark]
Pekar (Pehar) [Demon]
Peko [Barley]
Perendi [Jehovah]
Perit [Mountain Spirits]
Perkons [Thunder]
Perkunas [Thunder]
Perun (Peroun) [Thunder]
Polevik [Field]
Poludnitsa [Field]
Pon [Sky]
Porenutius (Porevit) [?]
Preas Eyn [?]
Preas Eyssaur [Destructive]
Preas Prohm [Primeval]
Prende (Prenne) [Love]
Psezpolnica (Polish Poludnica) [Midday]
Pugu [Sun]
Qormusta (Chormusta) [High]
Rugievit [War]
Rusalki (Rusalka) [Water/Woodlands]
Safa [Weapens]
Sanda [?]
Sarkany [Weather]
Saule [Sun]
Saules meitas [?]
Selardi [Moon]
Shen-Lha-od-dkar [Bon]
Shen-rab [Founder Bon]
Sipe Gyalmo [Bon]
Shiwini [Sun]
Shosshu [Smiths]
Siwini [Sun]
Srat [Demon]
Sri [Demon]
Sridevi [?]
Stribog [Winds]
Svantevit (Svantoveit, Svantovitus) [War/Agriculture]
Svarog [Sky]
Syen [Guardian]
Stihi [Demon]
Teljavelik [Heavenly Smith]
Telyaveli [Smiths]
Tengri [Heavenly Beings]
Tesheba [Weather]
Thab-lha [Hearth]
Triglav (Trigelawus) [War]
Uacilla [Thunder/Rain]
Ulgen [Creator]
Urme [Fate]
Usins [?]
Vadatajs [Evil]
Vampire [Soul of Dead]
Veela [Kindess]
Veja mate [Winds]
Veles (Volos) [Underworld]
Velnias [Devil]
Velu mate [Dead]
Verbti [Fire/North Wind]
Vila [Water]
Vilkacis (Lithuanian Vilkatas) [Werewolf]
Vlkodlaks (Vookodlaks) [Werewolf]
Vodnik [Demon]
Vodyanoi [Water]
Volos (Volusu) [Cattle]
We [Supreme]
Xhindi [Spirits]
Yarilo [Love]
Zaltys [Grass Snake]
Zemepatis (Zemempatis) [Supreme]
Zemes mate [Mother]
Zemyna (Zemyneles) [Earth]
Zorya [Guardian]
Zvezda Dennitsa and Zvezda Vechernyaya [Morning and Evening Star]
SIBERIAN GODS
Ai Tojon [Light]
Ajysyt [Mother]
Anky-Kele [Sea]
Ayi [Creator]
Hittavainen, Hittauanin [Hare-Hunters]
Hinkon [Death Demon]
K'daai [Fire Demon]
Kaltes [The Goddess]
Ke'lets [Death Demon]
Kurkil [Creator]
Kutkinnaku [Good Spirit]
Mayin [Supreme]
Picvu'cin [Hunting/Wild Animals]
Shurdi [Thunderstorms]
Tomam [Bird]
Tomor(Tomorr) [Father Creator]
Xucau [Supreme]
Ye'loje (Pugu) [Sun]
James, Seattle
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Eric Brze wrote:
On 28 Nov 2005 23:14:02 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
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Eric Brze wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:02:24 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:02:40 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
James, Seattle
You are complaining about the God of the Jews YHVH and His Tanakh, not
the Christ of the NT Bible, who is our God incarnate. He was as inoffensive
as a lamb. Why don't you post your anti-Semitic crap to Judaic groups? I
post you over to them.
Anti-Semitic? Just because I spoke of Jews doesn't make me
anti-Semitic. So who *IS* the 'father' of your Jesus if not the God
of the Old Testiment?
The father of Jesus is the God in heaven who is the God of the living
human beings, not the god of the dead Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
ROFL
Two fellas arguing about who and what is real, when the whole gambit is nothing
but primitive mythology.
I'm merely rephrasing the Bible verse to make its meaning more clear
and less misleading.
OK
sorry, have to ROFL again
bob
Humanist Brit.
Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more
repugnant to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called
Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and
too inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid, or produces
only atheists and fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of
despotism; and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests; but so
far as respects the good of man in general, it leads to nothing here or
hereafter.
[Thomas Paine]
James, Seattle
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:25:50 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
You are complaining about the God of the Jews YHVH and His Tanakh, not
the Christ of the NT Bible, who is our God incarnate. He was as inoffensive
as a lamb. Why don't you post your anti-Semitic crap to Judaic groups? I
post you over to them.
Anti-Semitic? Just because I spoke of Jews doesn't make me
anti-Semitic. So who *IS* the 'father' of your Jesus if not the God
of the Old Testiment?
The father of Jesus is the God in heaven who is the God of the living
human beings, not the god of the dead Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
ROFL
Two fellas arguing about who and what is real, when the whole gambit is nothing
but primitive mythology.
I'm merely rephrasing the Bible verse to make its meaning more clear
and less misleading.
Yeah... that's the same excuse for re-interpretation that EVERY
Christian sect uses... to make it "clearer" <wink>
why when YOU do it, it's "clearer" but when others do it they are
misreading it?
James, Seattle
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"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:6kbpo1l88292dr1i230dn827bno3uhvolb@4ax.com...
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:25:50 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
You are complaining about the God of the Jews YHVH and His
Tanakh, not
the Christ of the NT Bible, who is our God incarnate. He was as
inoffensive
as a lamb. Why don't you post your anti-Semitic crap to Judaic
groups? I
post you over to them.
Anti-Semitic? Just because I spoke of Jews doesn't make me
anti-Semitic. So who *IS* the 'father' of your Jesus if not the God
of the Old Testiment?
The father of Jesus is the God in heaven who is the God of the living
human beings, not the god of the dead Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
ROFL
Two fellas arguing about who and what is real, when the whole gambit is
nothing
but primitive mythology.
I'm merely rephrasing the Bible verse to make its meaning more clear
and less misleading.
Yeah... that's the same excuse for re-interpretation that EVERY
Christian sect uses... to make it "clearer" <wink>
why when YOU do it, it's "clearer" but when others do it they are
misreading it?
James, Seattle
That is why we have Fundamentalists, who adhere to the Bible literally,
for any attempt to "interpret" is always met with <winks> if not a howls of
protest from atheists and god-haters. The great preacher of the world are
interpreting the Bible, applying its lessons to daily life. Interpreting is
a preacher's function, and like music variations on a theme, some
interpretations are rather good, if not brilliant.
We Christians are well aware, that any interpretation is only
hypothetical and needs to be proved by the Holy Spirit. Only committed
true-disbelieving atheists reject any and all interpretations, including the
literalist one.
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
30 Nov 2005 10:48:22 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:12:55 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:6kbpo1l88292dr1i230dn827bno3uhvolb@4ax.com...
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:25:50 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
You are complaining about the God of the Jews YHVH and His
Tanakh, not
the Christ of the NT Bible, who is our God incarnate. He was as
inoffensive
as a lamb. Why don't you post your anti-Semitic crap to Judaic
groups? I
post you over to them.
Anti-Semitic? Just because I spoke of Jews doesn't make me
anti-Semitic. So who *IS* the 'father' of your Jesus if not the God
of the Old Testiment?
The father of Jesus is the God in heaven who is the God of the living
human beings, not the god of the dead Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
ROFL
Two fellas arguing about who and what is real, when the whole gambit is
nothing
but primitive mythology.
I'm merely rephrasing the Bible verse to make its meaning more clear
and less misleading.
Yeah... that's the same excuse for re-interpretation that EVERY
Christian sect uses... to make it "clearer" <wink>
why when YOU do it, it's "clearer" but when others do it they are
misreading it?
James, Seattle
That is why we have Fundamentalists, who adhere to the Bible literally,
So why can we have 100 groups of "fundamentalists" who all point
fingers at each other screaming 'you're wrong!'?
Are the Snake Handlers the TRUE christians? How about the hateful Pat
Robertsons of the world? Surely the Branch Dividians MUST be the true
fundamentalists....
Don't tell us... *YOU* follow the correct interpretation of the
bible... right?
Show me ONE sect who admits to following the wrong interpretation.
Show me ONE fundamentalist sect who doesn't have a MORE FUNDAMENTALIST
offshoot.
for any attempt to "interpret" is always met with <winks> if not a howls of
protest from atheists and god-haters.
Every adherent to the bible is following their INTERPRETATION of that
book. None are truely following it literally, since it requires some
sort of interpretation to fit with today's real world.
Why do you call people who question your book.. BOOK....
'god-haters'?
And why is it most fundamentalists worship that damn BOOK more than
any of the gods in it?
The great preacher of the world are
interpreting the Bible, applying its lessons to daily life. Interpreting is
a preacher's function, and like music variations on a theme, some
interpretations are rather good, if not brilliant.
Too bad most interpretations sound like an elementary school's 3rd
grade piccolo class.
We Christians are well aware, that any interpretation is only
hypothetical and needs to be proved by the Holy Spirit.
By "holy spirit" you mean "sounds right to me", correct?
Only committed
true-disbelieving atheists reject any and all interpretations, including the
literalist one.
Do you reject the literalist interpretations?
Why?
Does Jesus say "read my words and re-interpret them for the ages" or
does your Jesus say "obey me".
James, Seattle
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