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Religions > Atheism |
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"Gods Truth" |
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20 Nov 2005 07:17:01 PM |
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The good things about atheism |
The good things about atheism...
1) they see the ***** of religion
2) they see the joke of $churches
3) they see the commercialization of the whole $church $racket
4) they see how ridiculous it is to sit there in front of men and women
every Sunday talking of things they don't have a clue about
5) 1000's of different religious ways to heaven? really....hmmmm
6) doctrines that just don't make any sense at all...some say Rapture...some
say "just say no to rapture"
7) atheists say if this hell is from God I want nothing to do with him...I
don't blame them...been there...
8) they plainly see the phoniest of the quote "spirit filled" people
9) watch the newsgroups and see all the hate of...and in religion...
10) why would an atheists want to be apart of such obvious crap?
11) atheists are always looked down at by the worldly Christians...like they
really care...
12) atheist don't believe that if there is a God why go too church$....isn't
he everywhere?
13) to a atheist it's pretty obvious why going to church$ is so important$
14) atheist see allot of soap box preachers standing in front of the
congregations...and see right through them and see there's not much truth
coming from them lips
15) an atheists will wonder what in hell (if there's such a place) does
sinta claws and christ-mas got to do with anything...an atheist will look up
the history of such pagan wholly days and think this is just a bunch of B/S
plain and simple...it's real easy to look up the truth...an atheist will do
just that...most Christians are to lazy or too trusting of the soap
boxers...shame on them...
16) an atheist looks at easter and bunnies and eggs and look will it up the
history of it all and scratch their heads in disbelief and say "you got to
be kidding"...this is Christianity?? "just a bunch of brain washed fools is
all it is"
17) atheists say there is no God...gee I wonder why? hmmm
18) atheists hear from religion that the earth is 7000 years old...they say
What! really? when clearly it's much older than that...Hmmmm oh oh in the
name of God....
19) atheist hear that God the father and his son and the holy spirit are
"one?" than they here they're three "Trinity"...than they hear there's God
the father and Jesus the son of God which makes 2...hmmm I wonder why they
don't believe in much of anything? hmmm
20) could go on...but you get the idea...the bottom line is atheist see
religion and church for what it really is...Hell...(if there's such a place)
For many years I too was an atheists...saw the hell of it all...church and
religion...the franchising of the blood of Christ...go too church give them
your money...buy their books and tapes...and go too heaven...after all
everyone else is doing it...all churches brag about the numbers of the poor
souls...oh oh I mean blessed souls who sit there being spoon fed this hell
every week...
I always hated church...which turned out a blessing from God...cuz I never
was subjected to such hell week after week...I used too watch and listen to
people of different religions argue over religious doctrine...and
think...what a crock of *****...listen to these assholes...and all they
really knew was what the guy standing on the Sunday soap box would tell
them...and week after week...people go to these places...most from their
youth...and than they bring their babies and sit them in front of the Sunday
soap box preacher and the cycle con-tinues how sad religion and church truly
is....
The only Ones that Hate religion and church more than I is God and
Christ...the spirit of religion is the same spirit that murder Jesus my
brother and Lord...that same spirit of hell past down through the
ages...from the Jews to the calf-licks than on too the protestants...same
wicked spirit of death is still here working it's hell in Christianity too
this day...
God and Christ are calling their own too them...you can't serve two
masters...too see the light you first must see the darkness of
religion...what it always has been...hell...yes there is such a place!!!
just go to church...
God bless the atheist cuz they're allot closer to the truth than a pompous
pious religious person who's taken of heart and soul...the hell of church
and religion...cuz at least the atheist is not duped by the obvious hell
that it is...
www.godstruthtous.com
God Bless
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| User: "the14thdisciple" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
02 Dec 2005 02:51:56 PM |
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paster Frank, he wink, he Wank ...
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
03 Dec 2005 12:45:15 PM |
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He bite jebus' CRANK.
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| User: "St. Jackanapes" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
04 Dec 2005 10:21:21 PM |
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell spat out...
He bite jebus' CRANK.
He Stink he STANK
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
06 Dec 2005 08:03:03 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"RainLover" <SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote in message
news:6kbpo1l88292dr1i230dn827bno3uhvolb@4ax.com...
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:25:50 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
You are complaining about the God of the Jews YHVH and His
Tanakh, not
the Christ of the NT Bible, who is our God incarnate. He was as
inoffensive
as a lamb. Why don't you post your anti-Semitic crap to Judaic
groups? I
post you over to them.
Anti-Semitic? Just because I spoke of Jews doesn't make me
anti-Semitic. So who *IS* the 'father' of your Jesus if not the God
of the Old Testiment?
The father of Jesus is the God in heaven who is the God of the living
human beings, not the god of the dead Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
ROFL
Two fellas arguing about who and what is real, when the whole gambit is
nothing
but primitive mythology.
I'm merely rephrasing the Bible verse to make its meaning more clear
and less misleading.
Yeah... that's the same excuse for re-interpretation that EVERY
Christian sect uses... to make it "clearer" <wink>
why when YOU do it, it's "clearer" but when others do it they are
misreading it?
James, Seattle
That is why we have Fundamentalists, who adhere to the Bible literally,
for any attempt to "interpret" is always met with <winks> if not a howls of
protest from atheists and god-haters.
The great preacher of the world are
interpreting the Bible, applying its lessons to daily life. Interpreting is
a preacher's function, and like music variations on a theme, some
interpretations are rather good, if not brilliant.........
Really ! .........and the interpretation in my Great grandfathers day was much
different to now, in fact in my boyhood days the interpretations were
different.
So Frank, tell us, which were or are the correct 'interpretations?
Or is it that mythology, being impossible to justify, brings about these
erratic interpretation contortions by religionists ?
We Christians are well aware, that any interpretation is only
hypothetical and needs to be proved by the Holy Spirit.
Kindly interpret and reveal exactly what is meant by the holy spirit?
Or is it simply like 'soul' 'darkness', 'light' and s'alvation'?
Meaningless jargon to impress the simple minded?
Only committed
true-disbelieving atheists reject any and all interpretations, including the
literalist one.
Atheists reject ALL religions of today and those going back in history to the
Stone age and any that may well be dreamed up in the coming years by the 'must
have a superstition' types.
I notice that Gipsy Rose Lee still does a good trade in our Mid Lent Fun Fair
each year
bob
Humanist Brit.
There is something feeble and a little contemptible about a man who cannot face
the perils of life without the help of comfortable myths. Almost inevitably
some part of him is aware that they are myths and that he believes them only
because they are comforting. But he dare not face this thought! Moreover, since
he is aware, however dimly, that his opinions are not rational, he becomes
furious when they are disputed.
[Bertrand Russell]
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| User: "Alexander" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
13 Dec 2005 11:08:27 PM |
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Bob Young, There are Atheists within the Unitarian Universalist
Fellowships who are called Humanists. And I have seen Wiccan Athiest Goups
who practice Wicca without the usage of any gods/godesses.
Alexander
(Unitarian Universalist Pantheist)
Atheists reject ALL religions of today and those going back in history
to the
Stone age and any that may well be dreamed up in the coming years by the
'must
have a superstition' types.
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
25 Nov 2005 07:41:29 AM |
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
:-)
James, Seattle
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
26 Nov 2005 09:09:45 PM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:bs4eo1l9mel67faduvolop45rj1tqvrc1i@4ax.com...
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
Why pin it on YHVH? It's much more likely, that YHVH did not instruct
the Jews to "Kill all that breatheth" in the entire country, but Satan did.
If YHVH is anything like Jesus, He would much rather have commanded the Jews
to convert the entire population to Judaism, instead of killing them, don't
you think?
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| User: "Richard Dawkins" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
27 Nov 2005 03:53:35 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:1133060985.c038e442af9e403216949326502e01a5@fe5.teranews.com...
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Pastor Frank,
Why do you continue to play into these God-Haters hands by letting them
rapid fire ignorant and redundant questions at you?
Call them out.
Why do they come into Christian newsgroups to start trouble if they don't
hate and believe in God?
Ask them that.
Watch how fast they fall silent.
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| User: "Paul Erickson" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
30 Nov 2005 01:12:17 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:53:35 -0700, "Richard Dawkins"
<Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:1133060985.c038e442af9e403216949326502e01a5@fe5.teranews.com...
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:bs4eo1l9mel67faduvolop45rj1tqvrc1i@4ax.com...
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Pastor Frank,
Why do you continue to play into these God-Haters hands by letting them
rapid fire ignorant and redundant questions at you?
Call them out.
Why do they come into Christian newsgroups to start trouble if they don't
hate and believe in God?
Ask them that.
Watch how fast they fall silent.
While I don't doubt that there are some atheists who go into Christian
groups just to stir up fun and trouble, I am inclined to believe (and
my own experience supports this) that most of the posts from atheists
that end up in Christian groups are not the result of such intentions.
I'm aware that this message is going to mostly Christian groups, but
alt.atheism is also among them -- which is why I came across it. I
don't know how this thread came to be, but I'm not inclined to snip
groups from headers: if I do, how can I be sure of reaching the person
I'm responding to?
Crossposting _can start with good intentions, but even so nothing
stops the thread from becoming stupid or belligerant from both sides.
For example, I consider your own (above) post _highly likely to get
nasty remarks from atheists, since you have stuck us all in one group
as people who not only believe in and hate God but also attack other
newsgroups out of evil motives. You're _asking for it.
Many people will think that one bad turn deserves another. It ain't
limited to us atheists or you Christians.
To put it simply -- crossposts arise for various reasons, and can get
nasty despite the best of (or because of the worst of) original
intentions. Whoever contributes to the nastiness is to blame -- not
only atheists or only Christians or (at other times) only agnostics or
Hindus or Muslims or Jews, bald people, people with lots of moles,
scientists, Russians, French, Americans, short people, etc...
I certainly don't hold myself perfectly blameless :>
"Watch how fast they fall silent"
-- you (note that I didn't say "Them")
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
26 Nov 2005 10:58:04 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 03:09:45 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:bs4eo1l9mel67faduvolop45rj1tqvrc1i@4ax.com...
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
Why pin it on YHVH? It's much more likely, that YHVH did not instruct
the Jews to "Kill all that breatheth" in the entire country, but Satan did.
If YHVH is anything like Jesus, He would much rather have commanded the Jews
to convert the entire population to Judaism, instead of killing them, don't
you think?
I was trying to give YHVH the benefit of doubt and blame the Jews who
were too ignorant to know the true God. However, after I have found
out the secret buried in Exodus 6:3 and Matt: 22:32, I have no doubt
that YHVH is an evil lord and Jesus was clearly in against the evil
force of YHVH. In other word, I have found the Biblical proof to
support my conviction.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
28 Nov 2005 02:23:09 AM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 03:09:45 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:bs4eo1l9mel67faduvolop45rj1tqvrc1i@4ax.com...
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
Why pin it on YHVH? It's much more likely, that YHVH did not instruct
the Jews to "Kill all that breatheth" in the entire country, but Satan
did.
If YHVH is anything like Jesus, He would much rather have commanded the
Jews
to convert the entire population to Judaism, instead of killing them,
don't
you think?
I was trying to give YHVH the benefit of doubt and blame the Jews who
were too ignorant to know the true God. However, after I have found
out the secret buried in Exodus 6:3 and Matt: 22:32, I have no doubt
that YHVH is an evil lord and Jesus was clearly in against the evil
force of YHVH. In other word, I have found the Biblical proof to
support my conviction.
Those verses don't prove what you claim. In fact only some Gnostics are
into switching titles between God and Satan. We Christians believe, that the
word "God" denotes the absolute of good and the word Satan the absolute of
evil. To us they are titles. To you apparently they are proper names
divorced from principles.
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
28 Nov 2005 04:09:19 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:23:09 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:gieio1htkb8u2bdgdet0t2uvd7n562696h@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 03:09:45 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:bs4eo1l9mel67faduvolop45rj1tqvrc1i@4ax.com...
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
Why pin it on YHVH? It's much more likely, that YHVH did not instruct
the Jews to "Kill all that breatheth" in the entire country, but Satan
did.
If YHVH is anything like Jesus, He would much rather have commanded the
Jews
to convert the entire population to Judaism, instead of killing them,
don't
you think?
I was trying to give YHVH the benefit of doubt and blame the Jews who
were too ignorant to know the true God. However, after I have found
out the secret buried in Exodus 6:3 and Matt: 22:32, I have no doubt
that YHVH is an evil lord and Jesus was clearly in against the evil
force of YHVH. In other word, I have found the Biblical proof to
support my conviction.
Those verses don't prove what you claim.
Yes they do, but I understand people are capable to read the same
words to reach completely different conclusions. That's fine with me.
In fact only some Gnostics are
into switching titles between God and Satan. We Christians believe, that the
word "God" denotes the absolute of good and the word Satan the absolute of
evil.
Very well. That happens to be what I believe also. In fact, it's
exactly because I believe God is the absolute good who can never be
evil, I began to question the true identity of the Jehovah god.
To us they are titles. To you apparently they are proper names
divorced from principles.
What principle is that?
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
29 Nov 2005 04:35:05 PM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:23:09 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:gieio1htkb8u2bdgdet0t2uvd7n562696h@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 03:09:45 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:bs4eo1l9mel67faduvolop45rj1tqvrc1i@4ax.com...
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
Why pin it on YHVH? It's much more likely, that YHVH did not
instruct
the Jews to "Kill all that breatheth" in the entire country, but Satan
did.
If YHVH is anything like Jesus, He would much rather have commanded the
Jews
to convert the entire population to Judaism, instead of killing them,
don't
you think?
I was trying to give YHVH the benefit of doubt and blame the Jews who
were too ignorant to know the true God. However, after I have found
out the secret buried in Exodus 6:3 and Matt: 22:32, I have no doubt
that YHVH is an evil lord and Jesus was clearly in against the evil
force of YHVH. In other word, I have found the Biblical proof to
support my conviction.
Those verses don't prove what you claim.
Yes they do, but I understand people are capable to read the same
words to reach completely different conclusions. That's fine with me.
In fact only some Gnostics are
into switching titles between God and Satan. We Christians believe, that
the
word "God" denotes the absolute of good and the word Satan the absolute of
evil.
Very well. That happens to be what I believe also. In fact, it's
exactly because I believe God is the absolute good who can never be
evil, I began to question the true identity of the Jehovah god.
To us they are titles. To you apparently they are proper names
divorced from principles.
What principle is that?
Ideals of perfection. See below
Pastor Frank
THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST
Jesus in Matthew. 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye
for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: (Exodus 21:23-24)
39: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall
smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40: And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let
him have thy cloke also.
41: And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42: Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee
turn not thou away.
43: Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour,
and hate thine enemy.
44: But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do
good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you,
and persecute you;
45: That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for
he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on
the just and on the unjust.
46: For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? Do not even
the publicans the same?
47: And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? Do
not even the publicans so?
48: Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is
perfect.
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His teaching is a humongous step up from Judaism's Exodus 21:23-24
"If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth
for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound,
stripe for stripe."
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01 Dec 2005 01:00:33 AM |
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:35:05 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
To us they are titles. To you apparently they are proper names
divorced from principles.
What principle is that?
Ideals of perfection.
Which will only prove that Jehovah is an imperfect god who is often in
anger, deception, jealousy, and evil.
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28 Nov 2005 03:31:17 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 23:58:04 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
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In other word, I have found the Biblical proof to
support my conviction.
FINALLY! The truth. This is what EVERY Christian does, and it's
nice to see someone finally admit it.
James, Seattle.
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29 Nov 2005 12:45:39 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 23:58:04 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 03:09:45 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:bs4eo1l9mel67faduvolop45rj1tqvrc1i@4ax.com...
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
Why pin it on YHVH? It's much more likely, that YHVH did not instruct
the Jews to "Kill all that breatheth" in the entire country, but Satan did.
If YHVH is anything like Jesus, He would much rather have commanded the Jews
to convert the entire population to Judaism, instead of killing them, don't
you think?
I was trying to give YHVH the benefit of doubt and blame the Jews who
were too ignorant to know the true God. However, after I have found
out the secret buried in Exodus 6:3 and Matt: 22:32, I have no doubt
that YHVH is an evil lord and Jesus was clearly in against the evil
force of YHVH. In other word, I have found the Biblical proof to
support my conviction.
And you believe things written under the authority of such a being?
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30 Nov 2005 09:46:15 AM |
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:45:39 -0600, Paul Erickson
<prerickson@houston.rr.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 23:58:04 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 03:09:45 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:bs4eo1l9mel67faduvolop45rj1tqvrc1i@4ax.com...
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
Why pin it on YHVH? It's much more likely, that YHVH did not instruct
the Jews to "Kill all that breatheth" in the entire country, but Satan did.
If YHVH is anything like Jesus, He would much rather have commanded the Jews
to convert the entire population to Judaism, instead of killing them, don't
you think?
I was trying to give YHVH the benefit of doubt and blame the Jews who
were too ignorant to know the true God. However, after I have found
out the secret buried in Exodus 6:3 and Matt: 22:32, I have no doubt
that YHVH is an evil lord and Jesus was clearly in against the evil
force of YHVH. In other word, I have found the Biblical proof to
support my conviction.
And you believe things written under the authority of such a being?
No. Jehovah may appear having authority in commanding the Jews and the
Bible writers, yet he can't even hide his own lies and evil. The first
time he appeared in the Bible with his real name in Exodus 6:3,
inadvertently he was forced to confess his lie in deceiving Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob. That shows he himself was controlled by a higher
authority.
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| User: "Paul Erickson" |
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01 Dec 2005 12:22:28 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:46:15 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:45:39 -0600, Paul Erickson
<prerickson@houston.rr.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 23:58:04 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 03:09:45 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:bs4eo1l9mel67faduvolop45rj1tqvrc1i@4ax.com...
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
Why pin it on YHVH? It's much more likely, that YHVH did not instruct
the Jews to "Kill all that breatheth" in the entire country, but Satan did.
If YHVH is anything like Jesus, He would much rather have commanded the Jews
to convert the entire population to Judaism, instead of killing them, don't
you think?
I was trying to give YHVH the benefit of doubt and blame the Jews who
were too ignorant to know the true God. However, after I have found
out the secret buried in Exodus 6:3 and Matt: 22:32, I have no doubt
that YHVH is an evil lord and Jesus was clearly in against the evil
force of YHVH. In other word, I have found the Biblical proof to
support my conviction.
And you believe things written under the authority of such a being?
No. Jehovah may appear having authority in commanding the Jews and the
Bible writers, yet he can't even hide his own lies and evil. The first
time he appeared in the Bible with his real name in Exodus 6:3,
inadvertently he was forced to confess his lie in deceiving Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob. That shows he himself was controlled by a higher
authority.
I was asking why you believe things like the Exodus passage. Why do
you trust so much in a Bible inspired -- at least in its OT -- by an
evil being?
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02 Dec 2005 05:29:48 AM |
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 00:22:28 -0600, Paul Erickson
<prerickson@houston.rr.com> wrote:
No. Jehovah may appear having authority in commanding the Jews and the
Bible writers, yet he can't even hide his own lies and evil. The first
time he appeared in the Bible with his real name in Exodus 6:3,
inadvertently he was forced to confess his lie in deceiving Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob. That shows he himself was controlled by a higher
authority.
I was asking why you believe things like the Exodus passage. Why do
you trust so much in a Bible inspired -- at least in its OT -- by an
evil being?
I do not think Bible is inspired by an evil being. I think Bible is
inspired to expose an evil being.
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| User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort" |
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25 Nov 2005 07:51:48 AM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
And your evidence for this unsupported assertion is... ?
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25 Nov 2005 07:53:29 PM |
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On 25 Nov 2005 05:51:48 -0800, "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason
Gastrich's effort" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
And your evidence for this unsupported assertion is... ?
Hm, let me get my notes...
Here it is:
Exodus 6:3 and Matt 22:32.
Read them over and over again. I'm sure if you read it long enough you
will recognize the truth.
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26 Nov 2005 11:31:07 AM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On 25 Nov 2005 05:51:48 -0800, "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason
Gastrich's effort" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
And your evidence for this unsupported assertion is... ?
Hm, let me get my notes...
Here it is:
Exodus 6:3 and Matt 22:32.
Read them over and over again. I'm sure if you read it long enough you
will recognize the truth.
Exodus 6:3 (King James Version)
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of
God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
Matthew 22:32 (King James Version)
I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God
is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
Huh. Don't see anything there about "the devil in disguise." Too bad.
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26 Nov 2005 10:47:05 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:31:07 GMT, jesshc <jesshc@phantomemail.com>
wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 25 Nov 2005 05:51:48 -0800, "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason
Gastrich's effort" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
And your evidence for this unsupported assertion is... ?
Hm, let me get my notes...
Here it is:
Exodus 6:3 and Matt 22:32.
Read them over and over again. I'm sure if you read it long enough you
will recognize the truth.
Exodus 6:3 (King James Version)
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of
God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
This is Jehovah's self confession for using the name of God Almighty
in deceiving Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Matthew 22:32 (King James Version)
I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God
is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
Jehovah claimed that he was the god of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob who
were all dead at the time of Jesus. Jesus said: "God is not the God of
the dead, but of the living". What does that tell you? To me, Jesus
was implying that his God was not Jehovah .
Huh. Don't see anything there about "the devil in disguise." Too bad.
Try again. I'm sure you are capable to understand the unmistakable
logic.
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| User: "RainLover" |
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25 Nov 2005 11:14:09 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:41:29 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
Really now? I've NEVER heard this before... even from Jews. You
believe that the entire old testament was written by SATAN?
If not all... which parts were and weren't and how do you tell the
difference? What about in the New Testament where Jesus talks of the
Old Testament God as "father"? Is Jesus the son of satan?
Very interesting point of view here...
James, Seattle
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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25 Nov 2005 08:03:29 PM |
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:14:09 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:41:29 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
Really now? I've NEVER heard this before... even from Jews. You
believe that the entire old testament was written by SATAN?
Not exactly. I believe the entire Old Testament was written to reveal
the deception of the devil. If it's the devil wrote the Old Testament,
you would not see any evil and blood in the Old Testament.
If not all... which parts were and weren't and how do you tell the
difference? What about in the New Testament where Jesus talks of the
Old Testament God as "father"? Is Jesus the son of satan?
It's our misunderstanding to think that Jesus talked about Jehovah god
as his "father". If you read Matt. 22:32 carefully enough, you will
see it is exactly the opposite. The problem is, Jesus was unable to
openly denounce the evil Jehovah because it would mean suicide at the
time of Jesus.
Very interesting point of view here...
Yes, because it's time to reveal the truth.
James, Seattle
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| User: "RainLover" |
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28 Nov 2005 03:31:15 PM |
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:03:29 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:14:09 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:41:29 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
Really now? I've NEVER heard this before... even from Jews. You
believe that the entire old testament was written by SATAN?
Not exactly. I believe the entire Old Testament was written to reveal
the deception of the devil. If it's the devil wrote the Old Testament,
you would not see any evil and blood in the Old Testament.
You're making this up. You're inventing your own religious view of
biblical text... not that this is NEW for 'christians' to do, but I
thought it important to point out.
If not all... which parts were and weren't and how do you tell the
difference? What about in the New Testament where Jesus talks of the
Old Testament God as "father"? Is Jesus the son of satan?
It's our misunderstanding to think that Jesus talked about Jehovah god
as his "father". If you read Matt. 22:32 carefully enough, you will
see it is exactly the opposite. The problem is, Jesus was unable to
openly denounce the evil Jehovah because it would mean suicide at the
time of Jesus.
31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read
that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of
Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
33 And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his
doctrine.
For you to say your Jesus is NOT the son of your God is heresy at
best.
Very interesting point of view here...
Yes, because it's time to reveal the truth.
Don't tell me you're yet ANOTHER internet kook who is pretending to be
a Prophet, here to "explain" the "true meaning" in the Christian
Bible? I need to hook you up with Dore... she 100%, honestly and
sincerely believes that she is Jesus... not even reincardnated or
reborn, but the LITERAL Jesus Christ of the bible... she talks first
person and everything.
So who "knows the truth" more? YOU or JESUS CHRIST? I think Jesus
knows more than you.
james, Seattle
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25 Nov 2005 06:20:46 PM |
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Op Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:41:29 +0100 schreef Eric Brze
<brze@no.spam.mail.com>:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
:-)
That's very interesting. Does that mean the devil created men? Perhaps I
should start worshiping him then.
--
Hannele
aa #2221
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25 Nov 2005 08:18:02 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 01:20:46 +0100, "Hannele Huigens"
<Hannele@lycos.nl> wrote:
Op Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:41:29 +0100 schreef Eric Brze
<brze@no.spam.mail.com>:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:32:55 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:04:59 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
That's your misunderstanding. Christians do not believe in the big,
bad sky-daddy. Christians are believers of Christ who is Love.
So why are Christians such psychos?
But why would you rape pillage and murder without whatever you call
it? Is that what you really want to do?
No, that is never what a believer of God should ever do. Only the
believers of the devil would do things like that.
Really? then why is it your god says that soldiers at war should kill
every man and son and then take the Daughters and ***** them... if they
don't LIKE the women in the end, they should pay them something for
taking their innocents and move on...
This is YOUR GOD'S INSTRUCTIONS.
You worship the devil.
No, I do not. That is the devil's instruction, and I do not worship
the devil. It's my belief that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the
devil in disguise.
:-)
That's very interesting. Does that mean the devil created men? Perhaps I
should start worshiping him then.
The evil Jehovah did not exist before Adam/Eve sinned. He did not dare
to use his own name when he appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Not
until Exodus 6:3, did he show up with his own name to make a public
confession. According to Exodus 6:3, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob did not
even know the real name of Jehovah, because he never appeared to them
with his real name. He proved himself a liar in his first public
appearance as Jehovah.
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
21 Nov 2005 02:37:04 PM |
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on 21 Nov 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet Eric Brze
(brze@no.spam.mail.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:35:16 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet alen
(alen1@westserv.net.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
What is nice about this worldly life? What is nice about
labouring in a cold, loveless atmosphere where everyone
competes with everyone else to gain their own interest?
What is nice about a world full of violence and cruelty,
psychological and otherwise, illness, disaster, suffering
and death, and where death always threatens everything
at every moment? Why is it nice to snatch a temporary
companionship with someone today, and stand at the person's
graveside tomorrow? What is nice about labouring to achieve,
or valuing a memory, when everything must end in permanent
annihilation? You may be satisfied to find something nice in a
world like this, but I think that it is all a hell rather than a
heaven,
where anything nice always has its nasty contradiction, so that
finally this life is not really worthy of anything better than
contempt in any way at all.
So what's keeping you from pulling the trigger?
Because we still have Faith in Jesus Christ.
Pulling the trigger would send you to him! What could be better?
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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"This is the anger and low class I was speaking of. It's funny how angry
and
without moral atheist are while pretending to have a humanist type side...
It's a facade... Madaline Murry Ohare atleast admitted to being a
hatefilled
*****!" -- Douglas
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
21 Nov 2005 03:13:58 PM |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:37:04 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
on 21 Nov 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet Eric Brze
(brze@no.spam.mail.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:35:16 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet alen
(alen1@westserv.net.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
What is nice about this worldly life? What is nice about
labouring in a cold, loveless atmosphere where everyone
competes with everyone else to gain their own interest?
What is nice about a world full of violence and cruelty,
psychological and otherwise, illness, disaster, suffering
and death, and where death always threatens everything
at every moment? Why is it nice to snatch a temporary
companionship with someone today, and stand at the person's
graveside tomorrow? What is nice about labouring to achieve,
or valuing a memory, when everything must end in permanent
annihilation? You may be satisfied to find something nice in a
world like this, but I think that it is all a hell rather than a
heaven,
where anything nice always has its nasty contradiction, so that
finally this life is not really worthy of anything better than
contempt in any way at all.
So what's keeping you from pulling the trigger?
Because we still have Faith in Jesus Christ.
Pulling the trigger would send you to him! What could be better?
As the believers of Christ, we are already in the love of Christ
without lifting a finger. So, there is no need to bother pulling
anything. We are better!
:-)
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