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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Gods Truth"
Date: 20 Nov 2005 07:17:01 PM
Object: The good things about atheism
The good things about atheism...
1) they see the ***** of religion
2) they see the joke of $churches
3) they see the commercialization of the whole $church $racket
4) they see how ridiculous it is to sit there in front of men and women
every Sunday talking of things they don't have a clue about
5) 1000's of different religious ways to heaven? really....hmmmm
6) doctrines that just don't make any sense at all...some say Rapture...some
say "just say no to rapture"
7) atheists say if this hell is from God I want nothing to do with him...I
don't blame them...been there...
8) they plainly see the phoniest of the quote "spirit filled" people
9) watch the newsgroups and see all the hate of...and in religion...
10) why would an atheists want to be apart of such obvious crap?
11) atheists are always looked down at by the worldly Christians...like they
really care...
12) atheist don't believe that if there is a God why go too church$....isn't
he everywhere?
13) to a atheist it's pretty obvious why going to church$ is so important$
14) atheist see allot of soap box preachers standing in front of the
congregations...and see right through them and see there's not much truth
coming from them lips
15) an atheists will wonder what in hell (if there's such a place) does
sinta claws and christ-mas got to do with anything...an atheist will look up
the history of such pagan wholly days and think this is just a bunch of B/S
plain and simple...it's real easy to look up the truth...an atheist will do
just that...most Christians are to lazy or too trusting of the soap
boxers...shame on them...
16) an atheist looks at easter and bunnies and eggs and look will it up the
history of it all and scratch their heads in disbelief and say "you got to
be kidding"...this is Christianity?? "just a bunch of brain washed fools is
all it is"
17) atheists say there is no God...gee I wonder why? hmmm
18) atheists hear from religion that the earth is 7000 years old...they say
What! really? when clearly it's much older than that...Hmmmm oh oh in the
name of God....
19) atheist hear that God the father and his son and the holy spirit are
"one?" than they here they're three "Trinity"...than they hear there's God
the father and Jesus the son of God which makes 2...hmmm I wonder why they
don't believe in much of anything? hmmm
20) could go on...but you get the idea...the bottom line is atheist see
religion and church for what it really is...Hell...(if there's such a place)
For many years I too was an atheists...saw the hell of it all...church and
religion...the franchising of the blood of Christ...go too church give them
your money...buy their books and tapes...and go too heaven...after all
everyone else is doing it...all churches brag about the numbers of the poor
souls...oh oh I mean blessed souls who sit there being spoon fed this hell
every week...
I always hated church...which turned out a blessing from God...cuz I never
was subjected to such hell week after week...I used too watch and listen to
people of different religions argue over religious doctrine...and
think...what a crock of *****...listen to these assholes...and all they
really knew was what the guy standing on the Sunday soap box would tell
them...and week after week...people go to these places...most from their
youth...and than they bring their babies and sit them in front of the Sunday
soap box preacher and the cycle con-tinues how sad religion and church truly
is....
The only Ones that Hate religion and church more than I is God and
Christ...the spirit of religion is the same spirit that murder Jesus my
brother and Lord...that same spirit of hell past down through the
ages...from the Jews to the calf-licks than on too the protestants...same
wicked spirit of death is still here working it's hell in Christianity too
this day...
God and Christ are calling their own too them...you can't serve two
masters...too see the light you first must see the darkness of
religion...what it always has been...hell...yes there is such a place!!!
just go to church...
God bless the atheist cuz they're allot closer to the truth than a pompous
pious religious person who's taken of heart and soul...the hell of church
and religion...cuz at least the atheist is not duped by the obvious hell
that it is...
www.godstruthtous.com

God Bless
.

User: "Virgil"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 21 Nov 2005 02:28:50 PM
In article <dMigf.46430$0l5.23950@dukeread06>,
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote:

"God's Truth" <gods_truth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Is2dndshbISTvRzeRVn-vw@giganews.com...

The good things about atheism...

1) they see the ***** of religion
2) they see the joke of $churches
3) they see the commercialization of the whole $church $racket
4) they see how ridiculous it is to sit there in front of men and women
every Sunday talking of things they don't have a clue about
5) 1000's of different religious ways to heaven? really....hmmmm
6) doctrines that just don't make any sense at all...some say
Rapture...some say "just say no to rapture"
7) atheists say if this hell is from God I want nothing to do with him...I
don't blame them...been there...
8) they plainly see the phoniest of the quote "spirit filled" people
9) watch the newsgroups and see all the hate of...and in religion...
10) why would an atheists want to be apart of such obvious crap?
11) atheists are always looked down at by the worldly Christians...like
they really care...
12) atheist don't believe that if there is a God why go too
church$....isn't he everywhere?
13) to a atheist it's pretty obvious why going to church$ is so important$
14) atheist see allot of soap box preachers standing in front of the
congregations...and see right through them and see there's not much truth
coming from them lips
15) an atheists will wonder what in hell (if there's such a place) does
sinta claws and christ-mas got to do with anything...an atheist will look
up the history of such pagan wholly days and think this is just a bunch of
B/S plain and simple...it's real easy to look up the truth...an atheist
will do just that...most Christians are to lazy or too trusting of the
soap boxers...shame on them...
16) an atheist looks at easter and bunnies and eggs and look will it up
the history of it all and scratch their heads in disbelief and say "you
got to be kidding"...this is Christianity?? "just a bunch of brain washed
fools is all it is"
17) atheists say there is no God...gee I wonder why? hmmm
18) atheists hear from religion that the earth is 7000 years old...they
say What! really? when clearly it's much older than that...Hmmmm oh oh in
the name of God....
19) atheist hear that God the father and his son and the holy spirit are
"one?" than they here they're three "Trinity"...than they hear there's God
the father and Jesus the son of God which makes 2...hmmm I wonder why they
don't believe in much of anything? hmmm
20) could go on...but you get the idea...the bottom line is atheist see
religion and church for what it really is...Hell...(if there's such a
place)

For many years I too was an atheists...saw the hell of it all...church and
religion...the franchising of the blood of Christ...go too church give
them your money...buy their books and tapes...and go too heaven...after
all everyone else is doing it...all churches brag about the numbers of the
poor souls...oh oh I mean blessed souls who sit there being spoon fed this
hell every week...

I always hated church...which turned out a blessing from God...cuz I never
was subjected to such hell week after week...I used too watch and listen
to people of different religions argue over religious doctrine...and
think...what a crock of *****...listen to these assholes...and all they
really knew was what the guy standing on the Sunday soap box would tell
them...and week after week...people go to these places...most from their
youth...and than they bring their babies and sit them in front of the
Sunday soap box preacher and the cycle con-tinues how sad religion and
church truly is....

The only Ones that Hate religion and church more than I is God and
Christ...the spirit of religion is the same spirit that murder Jesus my
brother and Lord...that same spirit of hell past down through the
ages...from the Jews to the calf-licks than on too the protestants...same
wicked spirit of death is still here working it's hell in Christianity too
this day...

God and Christ are calling their own too them...you can't serve two
masters...too see the light you first must see the darkness of
religion...what it always has been...hell...yes there is such a place!!!
just go to church...

God bless the atheist cuz they're allot closer to the truth than a pompous
pious religious person who's taken of heart and soul...the hell of church
and religion...cuz at least the atheist is not duped by the obvious hell
that it is...
www.godstruthtous.com


God Bless


And the reason you cross-posted this in Christina newsgroups
is...___________

Probably because people from all of those newsgroups have been posting
their nastiness in alt. atheism.
.

User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 20 Nov 2005 08:40:18 PM
"God's Truth" <gods_truth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Is2dndshbISTvRzeRVn-vw@giganews.com...

The good things about atheism...

1) they see the ***** of religion
2) they see the joke of $churches
3) they see the commercialization of the whole $church $racket
4) they see how ridiculous it is to sit there in front of men and women
every Sunday talking of things they don't have a clue about
5) 1000's of different religious ways to heaven? really....hmmmm
6) doctrines that just don't make any sense at all...some say
Rapture...some say "just say no to rapture"
7) atheists say if this hell is from God I want nothing to do with him...I
don't blame them...been there...
8) they plainly see the phoniest of the quote "spirit filled" people
9) watch the newsgroups and see all the hate of...and in religion...
10) why would an atheists want to be apart of such obvious crap?
11) atheists are always looked down at by the worldly Christians...like
they really care...
12) atheist don't believe that if there is a God why go too
church$....isn't he everywhere?
13) to a atheist it's pretty obvious why going to church$ is so important$
14) atheist see allot of soap box preachers standing in front of the
congregations...and see right through them and see there's not much truth
coming from them lips
15) an atheists will wonder what in hell (if there's such a place) does
sinta claws and christ-mas got to do with anything...an atheist will look
up the history of such pagan wholly days and think this is just a bunch of
B/S plain and simple...it's real easy to look up the truth...an atheist
will do just that...most Christians are to lazy or too trusting of the
soap boxers...shame on them...
16) an atheist looks at easter and bunnies and eggs and look will it up
the history of it all and scratch their heads in disbelief and say "you
got to be kidding"...this is Christianity?? "just a bunch of brain washed
fools is all it is"
17) atheists say there is no God...gee I wonder why? hmmm
18) atheists hear from religion that the earth is 7000 years old...they
say What! really? when clearly it's much older than that...Hmmmm oh oh in
the name of God....
19) atheist hear that God the father and his son and the holy spirit are
"one?" than they here they're three "Trinity"...than they hear there's God
the father and Jesus the son of God which makes 2...hmmm I wonder why they
don't believe in much of anything? hmmm
20) could go on...but you get the idea...the bottom line is atheist see
religion and church for what it really is...Hell...(if there's such a
place)

I'm not an atheist, but there is also:
21) Atheists know that death is tragic. Most everyone else thinks death is
a good thing. If it were not for atheist's political influence, therefore,
murder would probably be legal.
.

User: "Douglas"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 20 Nov 2005 07:27:42 PM
"God's Truth" <gods_truth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Is2dndshbISTvRzeRVn-vw@giganews.com...

The good things about atheism...

PolPot
Lenin
Gorby
Kurschev
Stalin
Atheists don't believe in God. They say you cease to exist when you die.
With that in mind, I wonder at the rage atheists express over Alejandro
Avila and his murder
of Samantha Runnion, or their rage at any other killer. What if someone
wanted to rape and murder a seven year old girl? Sure, you might be able to
say it's morally wrong. But what does that matter? In their opinion we are
all going to face the horror of oblivion one day. One day when our bodies
die, that will be it... we will cease to exist. Hitler, Stalin, PolPot, Mao,
Genghis Khan, all faced or will face the exact same fate that happened to
Jesus christ, Mother Theresa and Ghandi. Atheists tell us that no
matter how morally good you are, you will face the exact same end
result as the worst child molestor that ever lived. So what's the point
of being good? The answer is that there is none. Atheist are trying to make
valid
their points of linger judeo-christian values.. and those after religion is
gone will deplete.
It's just a fact of "nature".. which is precisely why Christians and many
religions believe that the natural man is an enemy to Gods will.
However, I like the fact you tied capitalism and socialism to your list of
utter bulls__t. It shows your opinions are more based on politics and less
based on your lack of belief in an afterlife.


1) they see the ***** of religion
2) they see the joke of $churches
3) they see the commercialization of the whole $church $racket
4) they see how ridiculous it is to sit there in front of men and women
every Sunday talking of things they don't have a clue about
5) 1000's of different religious ways to heaven? really....hmmmm
6) doctrines that just don't make any sense at all...some say
Rapture...some say "just say no to rapture"
7) atheists say if this hell is from God I want nothing to do with him...I
don't blame them...been there...
8) they plainly see the phoniest of the quote "spirit filled" people
9) watch the newsgroups and see all the hate of...and in religion...
10) why would an atheists want to be apart of such obvious crap?
11) atheists are always looked down at by the worldly Christians...like
they really care...
12) atheist don't believe that if there is a God why go too
church$....isn't he everywhere?
13) to a atheist it's pretty obvious why going to church$ is so important$
14) atheist see allot of soap box preachers standing in front of the
congregations...and see right through them and see there's not much truth
coming from them lips
15) an atheists will wonder what in hell (if there's such a place) does
sinta claws and christ-mas got to do with anything...an atheist will look
up the history of such pagan wholly days and think this is just a bunch of
B/S plain and simple...it's real easy to look up the truth...an atheist
will do just that...most Christians are to lazy or too trusting of the
soap boxers...shame on them...
16) an atheist looks at easter and bunnies and eggs and look will it up
the history of it all and scratch their heads in disbelief and say "you
got to be kidding"...this is Christianity?? "just a bunch of brain washed
fools is all it is"
17) atheists say there is no God...gee I wonder why? hmmm
18) atheists hear from religion that the earth is 7000 years old...they
say What! really? when clearly it's much older than that...Hmmmm oh oh in
the name of God....
19) atheist hear that God the father and his son and the holy spirit are
"one?" than they here they're three "Trinity"...than they hear there's God
the father and Jesus the son of God which makes 2...hmmm I wonder why they
don't believe in much of anything? hmmm
20) could go on...but you get the idea...the bottom line is atheist see
religion and church for what it really is...Hell...(if there's such a
place)

For many years I too was an atheists...saw the hell of it all...church and
religion...the franchising of the blood of Christ...go too church give
them your money...buy their books and tapes...and go too heaven...after
all everyone else is doing it...all churches brag about the numbers of the
poor souls...oh oh I mean blessed souls who sit there being spoon fed this
hell every week...

I always hated church...which turned out a blessing from God...cuz I never
was subjected to such hell week after week...I used too watch and listen
to people of different religions argue over religious doctrine...and
think...what a crock of *****...listen to these assholes...and all they
really knew was what the guy standing on the Sunday soap box would tell
them...and week after week...people go to these places...most from their
youth...and than they bring their babies and sit them in front of the
Sunday soap box preacher and the cycle con-tinues how sad religion and
church truly is....

The only Ones that Hate religion and church more than I is God and
Christ...the spirit of religion is the same spirit that murder Jesus my
brother and Lord...that same spirit of hell past down through the
ages...from the Jews to the calf-licks than on too the protestants...same
wicked spirit of death is still here working it's hell in Christianity too
this day...

God and Christ are calling their own too them...you can't serve two
masters...too see the light you first must see the darkness of
religion...what it always has been...hell...yes there is such a place!!!
just go to church...

God bless the atheist cuz they're allot closer to the truth than a pompous
pious religious person who's taken of heart and soul...the hell of church
and religion...cuz at least the atheist is not duped by the obvious hell
that it is...
www.godstruthtous.com


God Bless

.
User: "Enkidu the Atheist"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 20 Nov 2005 07:32:07 PM
"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:io9gf.3034$Vu2.1494@trnddc06:

"God's Truth" <gods_truth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Is2dndshbISTvRzeRVn-vw@giganews.com...

The good things about atheism...


PolPot
Lenin
Gorby
Kurschev
Stalin

Atheists don't believe in God. They say you cease to exist when you
die.

With that in mind, I wonder at the rage atheists express over
Alejandro Avila and his murder
of Samantha Runnion, or their rage at any other killer. What if
someone wanted to rape and murder a seven year old girl? Sure, you
might be able to say it's morally wrong. But what does that matter? In
their opinion we are all going to face the horror of oblivion one day.
One day when our bodies die, that will be it... we will cease to
exist.

So, the only reason you don't rape every child you see is that you're
afraid of what God will do to you? What a sorry excuse for a man you
are. You just keep on believing so that the rest of us thinking men and
women needn't fear you.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
Faith is defined briefly as an illogical belief in the occurrence of the
improbable.

-- H.L. Mencken
.
User: "Douglas"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 20 Nov 2005 10:29:19 PM
"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714B26E26B42255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:io9gf.3034$Vu2.1494@trnddc06:
So, the only reason you don't rape every child you see is that you're
afraid of what God will do to you? What a sorry excuse for a man you
are. You just keep on believing so that the rest of us thinking men and
women needn't fear you.

Not at all... but hopefully the only reason your neighbor doesnt is because
he has some kind of moral to fight whatever sick urges pop into his head.


--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0

Faith is defined briefly as an illogical belief in the occurrence of the
improbable.

-- H.L. Mencken

.
User: "Mark Stahl"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 21 Nov 2005 11:52:12 PM
"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in message
news:z2cgf.1949$PC2.1820@trnddc03...


"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714B26E26B42255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:io9gf.3034$Vu2.1494@trnddc06:
So, the only reason you don't rape every child you see is that you're
afraid of what God will do to you? What a sorry excuse for a man you
are. You just keep on believing so that the rest of us thinking men and
women needn't fear you.


Not at all... but hopefully the only reason your neighbor doesnt is
because he has some kind of moral to fight whatever sick urges pop into
his head.

But you yourself said, "Sure, you might be able to
say it's morally wrong. But what does that matter?"
So apparently you are unconcerned about morality unless faced with
punishment. Sick, sick sick.
.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 22 Nov 2005 12:21:03 AM
Mark Stahl wrote:

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in message
news:z2cgf.1949$PC2.1820@trnddc03...


"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714B26E26B42255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:io9gf.3034$Vu2.1494@trnddc06:
So, the only reason you don't rape every child you see is that you're
afraid of what God will do to you? What a sorry excuse for a man you
are. You just keep on believing so that the rest of us thinking men and
women needn't fear you.


Not at all... but hopefully the only reason your neighbor doesnt is
because he has some kind of moral to fight whatever sick urges pop into
his head.


But you yourself said, "Sure, you might be able to
say it's morally wrong. But what does that matter?"

So apparently you are unconcerned about morality unless faced with
punishment. Sick, sick sick.

He did not say or imply that
and sick sick sick is 'groveling' to an imaginary deity that never shows
Thats' sick
.
User: "Mark Stahl"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 22 Nov 2005 12:59:14 AM
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Mark Stahl wrote:

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in message
news:z2cgf.1949$PC2.1820@trnddc03...


"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714B26E26B42255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:io9gf.3034$Vu2.1494@trnddc06:
So, the only reason you don't rape every child you see is that you're
afraid of what God will do to you? What a sorry excuse for a man you
are. You just keep on believing so that the rest of us thinking men
and
women needn't fear you.


Not at all... but hopefully the only reason your neighbor doesnt is
because he has some kind of moral to fight whatever sick urges pop into
his head.


But you yourself said, "Sure, you might be able to
say it's morally wrong. But what does that matter?"

So apparently you are unconcerned about morality unless faced with
punishment. Sick, sick sick.


He did not say or imply that

He obviously did. Didn't you read the quote?


and sick sick sick is 'groveling' to an imaginary deity that never shows

Thats' sick

That's sick too.
.


User: "stoney"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 22 Nov 2005 06:42:23 PM
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:52:12 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:


"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in message
news:z2cgf.1949$PC2.1820@trnddc03...


"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714B26E26B42255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:io9gf.3034$Vu2.1494@trnddc06:
So, the only reason you don't rape every child you see is that you're
afraid of what God will do to you? What a sorry excuse for a man you
are. You just keep on believing so that the rest of us thinking men and
women needn't fear you.


Not at all... but hopefully the only reason your neighbor doesnt is
because he has some kind of moral to fight whatever sick urges pop into
his head.


But you yourself said, "Sure, you might be able to
say it's morally wrong. But what does that matter?"

So apparently you are unconcerned about morality unless faced with
punishment. Sick, sick sick.

The perversion of Christianity.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.


User: "Enkidu the Atheist"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 20 Nov 2005 10:40:03 PM
"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:z2cgf.1949$PC2.1820@trnddc03:


"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714B26E26B42255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:io9gf.3034$Vu2.1494@trnddc06:
So, the only reason you don't rape every child you see is that you're
afraid of what God will do to you? What a sorry excuse for a man you
are. You just keep on believing so that the rest of us thinking men
and women needn't fear you.


Not at all... but hopefully the only reason your neighbor doesnt is
because he has some kind of moral to fight whatever sick urges pop
into his head.

I wonder where you get your information. I don't have "sick urges" pop
into my head. I don't think most people do. Are you extrapolating from
your own personal experience with "sick urges"?
Most people act more or less as they expect others to act. We are social
creatures, evolved to get along with each other, to rally around our
friends and family in times of danger.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"That was amazing! Did you have to swear a circus oath to never reveal
the source of your clown powers?"
*The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius
.
User: "Douglas"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 20 Nov 2005 10:48:06 PM
"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714D24ACDDE2255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:z2cgf.1949$PC2.1820@trnddc03:
I wonder where you get your information. I don't have "sick urges" pop
into my head. I don't think most people do.

4 thousand women a year are killed by domestic violence... 10's of thousands
are killed by illegal use of hand guns... hundereds of thousands more are
killed by legal use of weaponry... 10's of millions of children are abused
physically or sexually each year. Certainly most people dont have these sick
urges but aparently alot do... and in 50 years from now if everything was
secularist where would we be? People would only have to answer to the
physical laws, many of which escape those laws each year... The fact is
morals play a crucial roll in keeping society together. The more secularist
we become, the more atheistic we become, the more we seperate from God, then
the more bad seems to happen. That theory is written in the bible btw...
Interesting that it's fact.

Are you extrapolating from
your own personal experience with "sick urges"?

Is this where I am supose to entertain your unfounded accusation so you can
say "see, I told ya so" by my denial? Please, I don't intend on playing this
game. I encounter such tactics with atheist all of the time because they
lack credibility.
You may have the last word.
.
User: "Mark Stahl"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 21 Nov 2005 11:58:49 PM
"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in message
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"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
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"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:z2cgf.1949$PC2.1820@trnddc03:
I wonder where you get your information. I don't have "sick urges" pop
into my head. I don't think most people do.


4 thousand women a year are killed by domestic violence... 10's of
thousands are killed by illegal use of hand guns... hundereds of thousands
more are killed by legal use of weaponry... 10's of millions of children
are abused physically or sexually each year. Certainly most people dont
have these sick urges but aparently alot do... and in 50 years from now if
everything was secularist where would we be?

Far better off than where we are now, when 90+% of people are religionists.

People would only have to answer to the physical laws, many of which
escape those laws each year...

How stupid. No one escapes from physical laws.

The fact is morals play a crucial roll in keeping society together.

It's "role", and yes, they do. Morals which you, as a religionist,
apparently have no use for because instead of morals you have "rules".

The more secularist we become, the more atheistic we become, the more we
seperate from God, then the more bad seems to happen.

How do you figure that?
Near as I can tell, the opposite is the case. The populations of prisons are
more likely to be believers than the general population. The largest
problems in the world toaday are caused by religious scism. The ills of
religious superstition run the gamut from micro to macro.

That theory is written in the bible btw...

Where? If so, it's yet another place where the bible is wrong. Add it to the
long list.

Interesting that it's fact.

Except, of course, that it isn't. Interesting that the most religious parts
of the USA, for example, have the highest rates of illiteracy, abortion,
divorce, and poverty while the relatively more secular northeast has the
lowest. Also interesting that the most religious nations of the world are
places like Iran and Afghanistan while the most secular are peaceful,
prosperous democracies like Sweeden.
Please explain this contradiction with your claimed "fact".
.

User: "ManMadeGod"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 20 Nov 2005 11:06:05 PM
"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in message
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"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714D24ACDDE2255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:z2cgf.1949$PC2.1820@trnddc03:
I wonder where you get your information. I don't have "sick urges" pop
into my head. I don't think most people do.


4 thousand women a year are killed by domestic violence... 10's of
thousands are killed by illegal use of hand guns... hundereds of thousands
more are killed by legal use of weaponry... 10's of millions of children
are abused physically or sexually each year. Certainly most people dont
have these sick urges but aparently alot do... and in 50 years from now if
everything was secularist where would we be? People would only have to
answer to the physical laws, many of which escape those laws each year...
The fact is morals play a crucial roll in keeping society together. The
more secularist we become, the more atheistic we become, the more we
seperate from God, then the more bad seems to happen. That theory is
written in the bible btw... Interesting that it's fact.

Baloney. Site one recent example of an Atheist committing murder, rape or
any other hanus act. Most all the mass murders come from religious freaks
like Dalmer, Manson, etc. Most abuses of children come from christians,
catholics and preists.
For some sick reason, they think their "god" will forgive them. I certainly
don't.
.

User: "Enkidu the Atheist"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 20 Nov 2005 10:58:04 PM
"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:akcgf.1955$PC2.143@trnddc03:


"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714D24ACDDE2255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:z2cgf.1949$PC2.1820@trnddc03:
I wonder where you get your information. I don't have "sick urges"
pop into my head. I don't think most people do.


4 thousand women a year are killed by domestic violence... 10's of
thousands are killed by illegal use of hand guns... hundereds of
thousands more are killed by legal use of weaponry... 10's of millions
of children are abused physically or sexually each year.

In the United States, those criminals are nearly all Christian. Atheists
are far less common in prison than their numbers in the population would
have you expect.

Certainly
most people dont have these sick urges but aparently alot do... and in
50 years from now if everything was secularist where would we be?

There would be fewer abused alter boys.

People would only have to answer to the physical laws, many of which
escape those laws each year... The fact is morals play a crucial roll
in keeping society together.

If your morality is based on fear of punishment, then you are weak
indeed.

The more secularist we become, the more
atheistic we become, the more we seperate from God, then the more bad
seems to happen. That theory is written in the bible btw...
Interesting that it's fact.

Except it just isn't true.

Are you extrapolating from
your own personal experience with "sick urges"?

Is this where I am supose to entertain your unfounded accusation so
you can say "see, I told ya so" by my denial? Please, I don't intend
on playing this game. I encounter such tactics with atheist all of the
time because they lack credibility.

What makes you think such urges are common? Most people are law abiding,
and over half of those who aren't are guilty of drug offences harming
nobody except (perhaps) themselves.
Keep your God if it makes you feel good and keeps you honest. I don't
need it.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
I never cease being dumbfounded by the unbelievable things people
believe.

-- Leo Rosten
.

User: ""

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 25 Nov 2005 05:15:35 PM
Douglas wrote:

"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714D24ACDDE2255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:z2cgf.1949$PC2.1820@trnddc03:
I wonder where you get your information. I don't have "sick urges" pop
into my head. I don't think most people do.


4 thousand women a year are killed by domestic violence... 10's of thousands
are killed by illegal use of hand guns... hundereds of thousands more are
killed by legal use of weaponry... 10's of millions of children are abused
physically or sexually each year. Certainly most people dont have these sick
urges but aparently alot do... and in 50 years from now if everything was
secularist where would we be? People would only have to answer to the
physical laws, many of which escape those laws each year... The fact is
morals play a crucial roll in keeping society together. The more secularist
we become, the more atheistic we become, the more we seperate from God, then
the more bad seems to happen. That theory is written in the bible btw...
Interesting that it's fact.

Fact is it is organized religion that is the work of the devil. With so
many wars fought in the name of religion, paedophile priest, and the
self proclaimed war president claiming to be a born again christian,
people who can think and reason can only conclude there is no
relationship between morality, religion, and belief in God.
.
User: "Pastor Frank"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 27 Nov 2005 08:16:53 AM
<ausstu@primus.com.au> wrote in message
news:1132960535.760246.145950@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

Douglas wrote:

"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714D24ACDDE2255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:z2cgf.1949$PC2.1820@trnddc03:

I wonder where you get your information. I don't have "sick urges" pop
into my head. I don't think most people do.


4 thousand women a year are killed by domestic violence... 10's of
thousands
are killed by illegal use of hand guns... hundereds of thousands more are
killed by legal use of weaponry... 10's of millions of children are
abused
physically or sexually each year. Certainly most people dont have these
sick
urges but aparently alot do... and in 50 years from now if everything was
secularist where would we be? People would only have to answer to the
physical laws, many of which escape those laws each year... The fact is
morals play a crucial roll in keeping society together. The more
secularist
we become, the more atheistic we become, the more we seperate from God,
then
the more bad seems to happen. That theory is written in the bible btw...
Interesting that it's fact.


Fact is it is organized religion that is the work of the devil. With so
many wars fought in the name of religion, paedophile priest, and the
self proclaimed war president claiming to be a born again christian,
people who can think and reason can only conclude there is no
relationship between morality, religion, and belief in God.

Are you another revisionist? Why not take a look at what atheist
communism has wrought, for a change. You keep hammering Christians for not
living up to your exalted standards, but ignore atheists who have no known
standard.
Why keep hammering Christians, who are trying at least to be humane
after the example of Christ. Atheists don't!!!
Though many try, few succeed in living up to the high standard that is
Jesus Christ, but many succeed living up to the lack of standards that is
atheism.
.
User: "ManMadeGod"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 19 Dec 2005 02:57:58 PM
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:1133101013.e6c42f4283df0bfeea4dcd2ce09012d8@fe5.teranews.com...

<ausstu@primus.com.au> wrote in message
news:1132960535.760246.145950@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

Douglas wrote:

"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714D24ACDDE2255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:z2cgf.1949$PC2.1820@trnddc03:

I wonder where you get your information. I don't have "sick urges"
pop
into my head. I don't think most people do.


4 thousand women a year are killed by domestic violence... 10's of
thousands
are killed by illegal use of hand guns... hundereds of thousands more
are
killed by legal use of weaponry... 10's of millions of children are
abused
physically or sexually each year. Certainly most people dont have these
sick
urges but aparently alot do... and in 50 years from now if everything
was
secularist where would we be? People would only have to answer to the
physical laws, many of which escape those laws each year... The fact is
morals play a crucial roll in keeping society together. The more
secularist
we become, the more atheistic we become, the more we seperate from God,
then
the more bad seems to happen. That theory is written in the bible btw...
Interesting that it's fact.


Fact is it is organized religion that is the work of the devil. With so
many wars fought in the name of religion, paedophile priest, and the
self proclaimed war president claiming to be a born again christian,
people who can think and reason can only conclude there is no
relationship between morality, religion, and belief in God.

Are you another revisionist? Why not take a look at what atheist
communism has wrought, for a change. You keep hammering Christians for not
living up to your exalted standards, but ignore atheists who have no known
standard.

Do you mean atheists such as Charles Darwin, Thomas Edison, Albert Einstein,
Sigmund Freud, Bill Gates, Ernest Hemingway, Thomas Jefferson, John Lennon,
Abraham Lincoln, James Madison and 3/4 of science professors?
Or are you referring to Hitler, who was a devout Catholic?

Why keep hammering Christians, who are trying at least to be humane
after the example of Christ. Atheists don't!!!
Though many try, few succeed in living up to the high standard that is
Jesus Christ, but many succeed living up to the lack of standards that is
atheism.

Look at this years People of the Year for Time magazine. Bill and Melinda
Gates have raised over 32 Billion for "making mercy smarter and hope
strategic and then daring the rest of us to follow".
Wake up. Atheists and non-believers have done more for mankind than
christians could ever hope for. All christianity does is push man and nature
backwards, with it's lies, discrimination and man-made mythical hogwash.
.


User: "bob young"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 25 Nov 2005 11:18:01 PM
wrote:

Douglas wrote:

"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714D24ACDDE2255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:z2cgf.1949$PC2.1820@trnddc03:
I wonder where you get your information. I don't have "sick urges" pop
into my head. I don't think most people do.


4 thousand women a year are killed by domestic violence... 10's of thousands
are killed by illegal use of hand guns... hundereds of thousands more are
killed by legal use of weaponry... 10's of millions of children are abused
physically or sexually each year. Certainly most people dont have these sick
urges but aparently alot do... and in 50 years from now if everything was
secularist where would we be? People would only have to answer to the
physical laws, many of which escape those laws each year... The fact is
morals play a crucial roll in keeping society together. The more secularist
we become, the more atheistic we become, the more we seperate from God, then
the more bad seems to happen. That theory is written in the bible btw...
Interesting that it's fact.


Fact is it is organized religion that is the work of the devil. With so
many wars fought in the name of religion, paedophile priest, and the
self proclaimed war president claiming to be a born again christian,
people who can think and reason can only conclude there is no
relationship between morality, religion, and belief in God.

Agreed but it is not 'god'; should be 'a god' since there are and have been tens
of thousands of them
.


User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 20 Nov 2005 10:57:45 PM
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Douglas (dg331@gug.com)
made the light shine upon us with this:

4 thousand women a year are killed by domestic violence... 10's of
thousands are killed by illegal use of hand guns... hundereds of
thousands more are killed by legal use of weaponry... 10's of millions
of children are abused physically or sexually each year. Certainly
most people dont have these sick urges but aparently alot do... and in
50 years from now if everything was secularist where would we be?

Where do you get the idea that secularism is to blame? Do you know what
the divorce rate is among the religious, compared to that among atheists?
When was the last time an atheist was in the news for killing someone or
for illegal use of weaponry? No, spanky, those are the religious, who
quake in fear that someone might actually attempt to send them to eternal
bliss, so they urround themselves with instruments of death. Some even
wear one around their necks.
Makes sense, eh?
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
----
"GARGOYLES, PSYCHICS, EVERYTHING UNGODLY, GET THE HELL OUT OF MY
HOUSE, IN JESUS NAME I PRAY. THE DARK SIDE, SHE's NOT A CHRISTIAN,
SHE'S DARK-SIDED, SHE'S DARK-SIDED, THIS IS MY HOUSE, I WANT MY GOD
AND I WANT MY FAMILY. I AM A GOD WARRIOR SHE'S A SPIRITUAL WARRIOR,
SHE WAS THROWN IN THE PITS, OH NO THE HORRORS"
Ain't Christianity great?
.


User: "bob young"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 20 Nov 2005 11:35:03 PM
Enkidu the Atheist wrote:

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:z2cgf.1949$PC2.1820@trnddc03:


"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714B26E26B42255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:io9gf.3034$Vu2.1494@trnddc06:
So, the only reason you don't rape every child you see is that you're
afraid of what God will do to you? What a sorry excuse for a man you
are. You just keep on believing so that the rest of us thinking men
and women needn't fear you.


Not at all... but hopefully the only reason your neighbor doesnt is
because he has some kind of moral to fight whatever sick urges pop
into his head.


I wonder where you get your information. I don't have "sick urges" pop
into my head. I don't think most people do. Are you extrapolating from
your own personal experience with "sick urges"?

Most people act more or less as they expect others to act. We are social
creatures, evolved to get along with each other, to rally around our
friends and family in times of danger.

The Son of Sam had sick urges when he bumped off courting couples in their
cars,
he said "God told him to do it"



--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0

"That was amazing! Did you have to swear a circus oath to never reveal
the source of your clown powers?"
*The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius

.


User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 21 Nov 2005 07:23:25 AM
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 04:29:19 GMT, "Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote:

So, the only reason you don't rape every child you see is that you're
afraid of what God will do to you? What a sorry excuse for a man you
are. You just keep on believing so that the rest of us thinking men and
women needn't fear you.


Not at all... but hopefully the only reason your neighbor doesnt is because
he has some kind of moral to fight whatever sick urges pop into his head.

But if s/he drowns his or her offspring in the bathtub, cause god said
so, that is quite alright I guess.
.
User: "Enkidu the Atheist"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 21 Nov 2005 08:19:58 AM
Jos Flachs <xwcruise@ksc15.th.com> wrote in
news:lhe3o15ogr6t4hbig4t8sb3eic6kqti3n6@4ax.com:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 04:29:19 GMT, "Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote:

So, the only reason you don't rape every child you see is that
you're afraid of what God will do to you? What a sorry excuse for a
man you are. You just keep on believing so that the rest of us
thinking men and women needn't fear you.


Not at all... but hopefully the only reason your neighbor doesnt is
because he has some kind of moral to fight whatever sick urges pop
into his head.


But if s/he drowns his or her offspring in the bathtub, cause god said
so, that is quite alright I guess.

I don't think you'll get an answer. There can be no answer, other than
abandoning Christianity.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past
one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater
purity, the less they are mixed together.
-- James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 22 Nov 2005 06:41:45 PM
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:23:25 +0700, Jos Flachs <xwcruise@ksc15.th.com>
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 04:29:19 GMT, "Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote:

So, the only reason you don't rape every child you see is that you're
afraid of what God will do to you? What a sorry excuse for a man you
are. You just keep on believing so that the rest of us thinking men and
women needn't fear you.


Not at all... but hopefully the only reason your neighbor doesnt is because
he has some kind of moral to fight whatever sick urges pop into his head.


But if s/he drowns his or her offspring in the bathtub, cause god said
so, that is quite alright I guess.

"God's Love." (spit)
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.


User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 20 Nov 2005 10:52:12 PM
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Douglas (dg331@gug.com)
made the light shine upon us with this:


"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714B26E26B42255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:io9gf.3034$Vu2.1494@trnddc06:
So, the only reason you don't rape every child you see is that you're
afraid of what God will do to you? What a sorry excuse for a man you
are. You just keep on believing so that the rest of us thinking men
and women needn't fear you.


Not at all... but hopefully the only reason your neighbor doesnt is
because he has some kind of moral to fight whatever sick urges pop
into his head.

It's called common sense, and it certainly didn't come from the bible,
which teaches a level of morality about equal to that of a hillbilly
survivalist shotgun collector with body lice.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
----
"GARGOYLES, PSYCHICS, EVERYTHING UNGODLY, GET THE HELL OUT OF MY
HOUSE, IN JESUS NAME I PRAY. THE DARK SIDE, SHE's NOT A CHRISTIAN,
SHE'S DARK-SIDED, SHE'S DARK-SIDED, THIS IS MY HOUSE, I WANT MY GOD
AND I WANT MY FAMILY. I AM A GOD WARRIOR SHE'S A SPIRITUAL WARRIOR,
SHE WAS THROWN IN THE PITS, OH NO THE HORRORS"
Ain't Christianity great?
.
User: "ManMadeGod"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 20 Nov 2005 11:13:51 PM
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9714D448CD1EEvicman@216.196.97.136...

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Douglas (dg331@gug.com)
made the light shine upon us with this:


"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714B26E26B42255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:io9gf.3034$Vu2.1494@trnddc06:
So, the only reason you don't rape every child you see is that you're
afraid of what God will do to you? What a sorry excuse for a man you
are. You just keep on believing so that the rest of us thinking men
and women needn't fear you.


Not at all... but hopefully the only reason your neighbor doesnt is
because he has some kind of moral to fight whatever sick urges pop
into his head.


It's called common sense, and it certainly didn't come from the bible,
which teaches a level of morality about equal to that of a hillbilly
survivalist shotgun collector with body lice.

Get er Done! ;-)
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 22 Nov 2005 06:40:30 PM
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:52:12 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Douglas (dg331@gug.com)
made the light shine upon us with this:


"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9714B26E26B42255229@130.133.1.4...

"Douglas" <dg331@gug.com> wrote in news:io9gf.3034$Vu2.1494@trnddc06:
So, the only reason you don't rape every child you see is that you're
afraid of what God will do to you? What a sorry excuse for a man you
are. You just keep on believing so that the rest of us thinking men
and women needn't fear you.


Not at all... but hopefully the only reason your neighbor doesnt is
because he has some kind of moral to fight whatever sick urges pop
into his head.


It's called common sense, and it certainly didn't come from the bible,
which teaches a level of morality

of zero.

about equal to that of a hillbilly
survivalist shotgun collector with body lice.

--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.




User: "bob young"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 20 Nov 2005 11:33:02 PM
Douglas wrote:

"God's Truth" <gods_truth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Is2dndshbISTvRzeRVn-vw@giganews.com...

The good things about atheism...


PolPot
Lenin
Gorby
Kurschev
Stalin

Your god is supposed to have created everything including us, so by your
perverted logic he also created the above.
Why?
By the same perverted logic your god allows one mother in around 400,000 to
bear a grossly deformed fetus, so gross that when it arrives she is never
allowed to see it.
For this there must be one or two explanations:
1) Your god is expressing his perverted sense of humour.
2) The workings of the evolutionary process is out of sync.
Which one please



Atheists don't believe in God. They say you cease to exist when you die.

With that in mind, I wonder at the rage atheists express over Alejandro
Avila and his murder
of Samantha Runnion, or their rage at any other killer. What if someone
wanted to rape and murder a seven year old girl? Sure, you might be able to
say it's morally wrong. But what does that matter? In their opinion we are
all going to face the horror of oblivion one day. One day when our bodies
die, that will be it... we will cease to exist. Hitler, Stalin, PolPot, Mao,
Genghis Khan, all faced or will face the exact same fate that happened to
Jesus christ, Mother Theresa and Ghandi. Atheists tell us that no
matter how morally good you are, you will face the exact same end
result as the worst child molestor that ever lived. So what's the point
of being good? The answer is that there is none. Atheist are trying to make
valid
their points of linger judeo-christian values.. and those after religion is
gone will deplete.

It's just a fact of "nature".. which is precisely why Christians and many
religions believe that the natural man is an enemy to Gods will.

However, I like the fact you tied capitalism and socialism to your list of
utter bulls__t. It shows your opinions are more based on politics and less
based on your lack of belief in an afterlife.


1) they see the ***** of religion
2) they see the joke of $churches
3) they see the commercialization of the whole $church $racket
4) they see how ridiculous it is to sit there in front of men and women
every Sunday talking of things they don't have a clue about
5) 1000's of different religious ways to heaven? really....hmmmm
6) doctrines that just don't make any sense at all...some say
Rapture...some say "just say no to rapture"
7) atheists say if this hell is from God I want nothing to do with him...I
don't blame them...been there...
8) they plainly see the phoniest of the quote "spirit filled" people
9) watch the newsgroups and see all the hate of...and in religion...
10) why would an atheists want to be apart of such obvious crap?
11) atheists are always looked down at by the worldly Christians...like
they really care...
12) atheist don't believe that if there is a God why go too
church$....isn't he everywhere?
13) to a atheist it's pretty obvious why going to church$ is so important$
14) atheist see allot of soap box preachers standing in front of the
congregations...and see right through them and see there's not much truth
coming from them lips
15) an atheists will wonder what in hell (if there's such a place) does
sinta claws and christ-mas got to do with anything...an atheist will look
up the history of such pagan wholly days and think this is just a bunch of
B/S plain and simple...it's real easy to look up the truth...an atheist
will do just that...most Christians are to lazy or too trusting of the
soap boxers...shame on them...
16) an atheist looks at easter and bunnies and eggs and look will it up
the history of it all and scratch their heads in disbelief and say "you
got to be kidding"...this is Christianity?? "just a bunch of brain washed
fools is all it is"
17) atheists say there is no God...gee I wonder why? hmmm
18) atheists hear from religion that the earth is 7000 years old...they
say What! really? when clearly it's much older than that...Hmmmm oh oh in
the name of God....
19) atheist hear that God the father and his son and the holy spirit are
"one?" than they here they're three "Trinity"...than they hear there's God
the father and Jesus the son of God which makes 2...hmmm I wonder why they
don't believe in much of anything? hmmm
20) could go on...but you get the idea...the bottom line is atheist see
religion and church for what it really is...Hell...(if there's such a
place)

For many years I too was an atheists...saw the hell of it all...church and
religion...the franchising of the blood of Christ...go too church give
them your money...buy their books and tapes...and go too heaven...after
all everyone else is doing it...all churches brag about the numbers of the
poor souls...oh oh I mean blessed souls who sit there being spoon fed this
hell every week...

I always hated church...which turned out a blessing from God...cuz I never
was subjected to such hell week after week...I used too watch and listen
to people of different religions argue over religious doctrine...and
think...what a crock of *****...listen to these assholes...and all they
really knew was what the guy standing on the Sunday soap box would tell
them...and week after week...people go to these places...most from their
youth...and than they bring their babies and sit them in front of the
Sunday soap box preacher and the cycle con-tinues how sad religion and
church truly is....

The only Ones that Hate religion and church more than I is God and
Christ...the spirit of religion is the same spirit that murder Jesus my
brother and Lord...that same spirit of hell past down through the
ages...from the Jews to the calf-licks than on too the protestants...same
wicked spirit of death is still here working it's hell in Christianity too
this day...

God and Christ are calling their own too them...you can't serve two
masters...too see the light you first must see the darkness of
religion...what it always has been...hell...yes there is such a place!!!
just go to church...

God bless the atheist cuz they're allot closer to the truth than a pompous
pious religious person who's taken of heart and soul...the hell of church
and religion...cuz at least the atheist is not duped by the obvious hell
that it is...
www.godstruthtous.com


God Bless

.
User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 21 Nov 2005 04:12:10 AM
On 20 Nov 2005 23:33:02 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:



Douglas wrote:

"God's Truth" <gods_truth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Is2dndshbISTvRzeRVn-vw@giganews.com...

The good things about atheism...


PolPot
Lenin
Gorby
Kurschev
Stalin


Your god is supposed to have created everything including us, so by your
perverted logic he also created the above.

Why?

By the same perverted logic your god allows one mother in around 400,000 to
bear a grossly deformed fetus, so gross that when it arrives she is never
allowed to see it.

For this there must be one or two explanations:

1) Your god is expressing his perverted sense of humour.

2) The workings of the evolutionary process is out of sync.

Which one please

None of the above. Evil is never the work of God. Evil is always the
work of the devil.
.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 21 Nov 2005 07:06:09 AM
Eric Brze wrote:

On 20 Nov 2005 23:33:02 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:



Douglas wrote:

"God's Truth" <gods_truth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Is2dndshbISTvRzeRVn-vw@giganews.com...

The good things about atheism...


PolPot
Lenin
Gorby
Kurschev
Stalin


Your god is supposed to have created everything including us, so by your
perverted logic he also created the above.

Why?

By the same perverted logic your god allows one mother in around 400,000 to
bear a grossly deformed fetus, so gross that when it arrives she is never
allowed to see it.

For this there must be one or two explanations:

1) Your god is expressing his perverted sense of humour.

2) The workings of the evolutionary process is out of sync.

Which one please


None of the above. Evil is never the work of God. Evil is always the
work of the devil.

n' you cannot get more childish than that!
.
User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: The good things about atheism 21 Nov 2005 02:21:53 PM
On 21 Nov 2005 07:06:09 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:



Eric Brze wrote:

On 20 Nov 2005 23:33:02 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:



Douglas wrote:

"God's Truth" <gods_truth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Is2dndshbISTvRzeRVn-vw@giganews.com...

The good things about atheism...


PolPot
Lenin
Gorby
Kurschev
Stalin


Your god is supposed to have created everything including us, so by your
perverted logic he also created the above.

Why?

By the same perverted logic your god allows one mother in around 400,000 to
bear a grossly deformed fetus, so gross that when it arrives she is never
allowed to see it.

For this there must be one or two explanations:

1) Your god is expressing his perverted sense of humour.

2) The workings of the evolutionary process is out of sync.

Which one please


None of the above. Evil is never the work of God. Evil is always the
work of the devil.


n' you cannot get more childish than that!

You are wrong again. It's called the simple truth.
:-)
.






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