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"Gods Truth" |
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20 Nov 2005 07:17:01 PM |
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The good things about atheism |
The good things about atheism...
1) they see the ***** of religion
2) they see the joke of $churches
3) they see the commercialization of the whole $church $racket
4) they see how ridiculous it is to sit there in front of men and women
every Sunday talking of things they don't have a clue about
5) 1000's of different religious ways to heaven? really....hmmmm
6) doctrines that just don't make any sense at all...some say Rapture...some
say "just say no to rapture"
7) atheists say if this hell is from God I want nothing to do with him...I
don't blame them...been there...
8) they plainly see the phoniest of the quote "spirit filled" people
9) watch the newsgroups and see all the hate of...and in religion...
10) why would an atheists want to be apart of such obvious crap?
11) atheists are always looked down at by the worldly Christians...like they
really care...
12) atheist don't believe that if there is a God why go too church$....isn't
he everywhere?
13) to a atheist it's pretty obvious why going to church$ is so important$
14) atheist see allot of soap box preachers standing in front of the
congregations...and see right through them and see there's not much truth
coming from them lips
15) an atheists will wonder what in hell (if there's such a place) does
sinta claws and christ-mas got to do with anything...an atheist will look up
the history of such pagan wholly days and think this is just a bunch of B/S
plain and simple...it's real easy to look up the truth...an atheist will do
just that...most Christians are to lazy or too trusting of the soap
boxers...shame on them...
16) an atheist looks at easter and bunnies and eggs and look will it up the
history of it all and scratch their heads in disbelief and say "you got to
be kidding"...this is Christianity?? "just a bunch of brain washed fools is
all it is"
17) atheists say there is no God...gee I wonder why? hmmm
18) atheists hear from religion that the earth is 7000 years old...they say
What! really? when clearly it's much older than that...Hmmmm oh oh in the
name of God....
19) atheist hear that God the father and his son and the holy spirit are
"one?" than they here they're three "Trinity"...than they hear there's God
the father and Jesus the son of God which makes 2...hmmm I wonder why they
don't believe in much of anything? hmmm
20) could go on...but you get the idea...the bottom line is atheist see
religion and church for what it really is...Hell...(if there's such a place)
For many years I too was an atheists...saw the hell of it all...church and
religion...the franchising of the blood of Christ...go too church give them
your money...buy their books and tapes...and go too heaven...after all
everyone else is doing it...all churches brag about the numbers of the poor
souls...oh oh I mean blessed souls who sit there being spoon fed this hell
every week...
I always hated church...which turned out a blessing from God...cuz I never
was subjected to such hell week after week...I used too watch and listen to
people of different religions argue over religious doctrine...and
think...what a crock of *****...listen to these assholes...and all they
really knew was what the guy standing on the Sunday soap box would tell
them...and week after week...people go to these places...most from their
youth...and than they bring their babies and sit them in front of the Sunday
soap box preacher and the cycle con-tinues how sad religion and church truly
is....
The only Ones that Hate religion and church more than I is God and
Christ...the spirit of religion is the same spirit that murder Jesus my
brother and Lord...that same spirit of hell past down through the
ages...from the Jews to the calf-licks than on too the protestants...same
wicked spirit of death is still here working it's hell in Christianity too
this day...
God and Christ are calling their own too them...you can't serve two
masters...too see the light you first must see the darkness of
religion...what it always has been...hell...yes there is such a place!!!
just go to church...
God bless the atheist cuz they're allot closer to the truth than a pompous
pious religious person who's taken of heart and soul...the hell of church
and religion...cuz at least the atheist is not duped by the obvious hell
that it is...
www.godstruthtous.com
God Bless
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
20 Dec 2005 04:59:23 PM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:59:45 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:19:11 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:42:26 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
Reality is rarely found in ideological isms.
Truer words were never spoken. Reality is rarely found in any form of
religion.
But reality can be found in the faith of the heart.
I don't think so. Christianity is about the Kingdom of God we are to
aspire to, not mere "reality.
The Kingdom of God is the Reality. The physical world is only a
reflection of God's spiritual reality.
You may have something there! Most religions feature multiple realities,
such as the here and now, numerous heavens, hell, if not purgatory as well.
It's all about relationship with God, and therefore ultimately with
ourselves. The "physical world" is merely the stage upon which this
relationship plays out.
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| User: "Carl Kaufmann" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
14 Dec 2005 11:24:06 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:59:45 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:19:11 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:42:26 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
Reality is rarely found in ideological isms.
Truer words were never spoken. Reality is rarely found in any form of
religion.
But reality can be found in the faith of the heart.
I don't think so. Christianity is about the Kingdom of God we are to
aspire to, not mere "reality.
The Kingdom of God is the Reality. The physical world is only a
reflection of God's spiritual reality.
Take your Platonic ideal and shove it up your (presumably) real *****.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
14 Dec 2005 01:14:31 PM |
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In article <o1q0q1hlnjl5hvvplph595q8oqre2s062r@4ax.com> Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com> writes:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:59:45 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:19:11 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:42:26 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
Reality is rarely found in ideological isms.
Truer words were never spoken. Reality is rarely found in any form of
religion.
But reality can be found in the faith of the heart.
I don't think so. Christianity is about the Kingdom of God we are to
aspire to, not mere "reality.
The Kingdom of God is the Reality. The physical world is only a
reflection of God's spiritual reality.
It's the illusion of the veil of Maya?
-- cary
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| User: "RainLover" |
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14 Dec 2005 06:13:18 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:52:37 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:59:45 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:19:11 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:42:26 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
Reality is rarely found in ideological isms.
Truer words were never spoken. Reality is rarely found in any form of
religion.
But reality can be found in the faith of the heart.
I don't think so. Christianity is about the Kingdom of God we are to
aspire to, not mere "reality.
The Kingdom of God is the Reality. The physical world is only a
reflection of God's spiritual reality.
If the physical world is a REFLECTION of your god's "spiritual
reality" then your god is more fucked up and disturbed than anyone
here imagined.
What part of your god's spiritual reality does a tsunami that kills
100,000 innocent people reflect?
What part of your god's spiritual reality does a baby born with no
legs and a third arm growing out of it's head reflect?
Do you even THINK before repeating the crap you were told?
James, Seattle
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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14 Dec 2005 08:36:26 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:13:18 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:52:37 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:59:45 +0000, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:19:11 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:42:26 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
Reality is rarely found in ideological isms.
Truer words were never spoken. Reality is rarely found in any form of
religion.
But reality can be found in the faith of the heart.
I don't think so. Christianity is about the Kingdom of God we are to
aspire to, not mere "reality.
The Kingdom of God is the Reality. The physical world is only a
reflection of God's spiritual reality.
If the physical world is a REFLECTION of your god's "spiritual
reality" then your god is more fucked up and disturbed than anyone
here imagined.
What part of your god's spiritual reality does a tsunami that kills
100,000 innocent people reflect?
What part of your god's spiritual reality does a baby born with no
legs and a third arm growing out of it's head reflect?
Do you even THINK before repeating the crap you were told?
Your questions are easily answered. All good things of the physical
world are positive reflections of God's spiritual reality. All evil
things of the physical world are negative reflections of God's
spiritual reality. The good things show what heaven is. The evil
things show what heaven is not.
James, Seattle
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| User: "Brian Henderson" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
07 Dec 2005 02:32:49 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 07:44:51 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:19:11 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
Truer words were never spoken. Reality is rarely found in any form of
religion.
But reality can be found in the faith of the heart.
Only if demonstrable. Faith without basis is empty and without truth
or reality.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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12 Dec 2005 02:59:51 PM |
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"Brian Henderson" <BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 07:44:51 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:19:11 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
Truer words were never spoken. Reality is rarely found in any form of
religion.
But reality can be found in the faith of the heart.
Only if demonstrable. Faith without basis is empty and without truth
or reality.
Wrong track!!!!! We married men have faith in our wives, that they don't
secretly have affairs with other men. The "basis of fact" is an assumption.
It's pure belief held in faith. We have no proof unless one makes one's wife
wear a chastity belt.
To say that therefore my wife and children, parents and friends need to
"demonstrate" loyalty to me beyond a shadow of doubt, or alternatively the
faith I have in them is "empty" and without "truth" is of course ludicrous.
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
08 Dec 2005 09:41:14 AM |
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On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:32:49 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 07:44:51 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:19:11 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
Truer words were never spoken. Reality is rarely found in any form of
religion.
But reality can be found in the faith of the heart.
Only if demonstrable. Faith without basis is empty and without truth
or reality.
Faith without basis is not faith.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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06 Dec 2005 03:01:52 PM |
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:19:11 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:42:26 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
Reality is rarely found in ideological isms.
Truer words were never spoken. Reality is rarely found in any form of
religion.
Most religionists have a religion mode they enter but return to
realisty afterwards. Fundamentalists don't.
It's like watching a movie. You suspend disbelief when you enter the
theatre. In the real world we know that you can't hear explosions in
space because sound can't propagate in a vacuum. We don't even think
about this when we watch a sci fi movie. But afterwards we return to
reality.
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| User: "stoney" |
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08 Dec 2005 09:47:47 AM |
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:01:52 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:19:11 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:42:26 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
Reality is rarely found in ideological isms.
Truer words were never spoken. Reality is rarely found in any form of
religion.
Most religionists have a religion mode they enter but return to
realisty afterwards. Fundamentalists don't.
It's like watching a movie. You suspend disbelief when you enter the
theatre. In the real world we know that you can't hear explosions in
space because sound can't propagate in a vacuum. We don't even think
about this when we watch a sci fi movie. But afterwards we return to
reality.
Fundies are too busy fouling their diapers and drooling copiously.
There's no evidence thought is part of their capabilities.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
22 Nov 2005 06:59:08 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and Eric Brze
<brze@no.spam.mail.com> posting the following on Tue, 22 Nov 2005
02:03:40 -0500 iin alt.atheism?
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 03:23:49 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and Eric Brze
<brze@no.spam.mail.com> posting the following on Mon, 21 Nov 2005
16:09:04 -0500 iin alt.atheism?
None of the above. Evil is never the work of God. Evil is always the
work of the devil.
Isiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
create evil: I the LORD do all these things
Amazing, isn't it? I'm an athesit and I know the Bible better than
you.
Not so fast buddy. Do you know Jehovah is an evil lord instead of the
good Almighty? I have biblical proof to support my discovery. Do you
want to know the relevant verses?
Amuse me.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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22 Nov 2005 07:33:38 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:59:08 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and Eric Brze
<brze@no.spam.mail.com> posting the following on Tue, 22 Nov 2005
02:03:40 -0500 iin alt.atheism?
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 03:23:49 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and Eric Brze
<brze@no.spam.mail.com> posting the following on Mon, 21 Nov 2005
16:09:04 -0500 iin alt.atheism?
None of the above. Evil is never the work of God. Evil is always the
work of the devil.
Isiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
create evil: I the LORD do all these things
Amazing, isn't it? I'm an athesit and I know the Bible better than
you.
Not so fast buddy. Do you know Jehovah is an evil lord instead of the
good Almighty? I have biblical proof to support my discovery. Do you
want to know the relevant verses?
Amuse me.
My pleasure.
Exodus 6:3 is where Jehovah first appeared in the Old Testament using
his real name. Before Exodus 6:3, he appeared to Abraham claiming to
be the Almighty. Exodus 6:3 is his own confession. Jehovah is such a
coward, that he wasn't dare to use his real name until the time of
Moses.
Matt 22:32 is where Jesus told the crowd that his God was not Jehovah
by pointing out that the god of Abraham was the god of dead since
Abraham was long dead.
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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21 Nov 2005 07:23:25 AM |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 05:12:10 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
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None of the above. Evil is never the work of God. Evil is always the
work of the devil.
1- Who created everything?
2- Who created the devil?
Thank you for playing, little Eric. Have a nice day!
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| User: "bob young" |
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22 Nov 2005 07:02:03 AM |
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Jos Flachs wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 05:12:10 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
None of the above. Evil is never the work of God. Evil is always the
work of the devil.
1- Who created everything?
2- Who created the devil?
1) Evolution
2) Man
Thank you for playing, little Eric. Have a nice day!
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| User: "William T. Goat" |
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21 Nov 2005 11:25:58 AM |
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Douglas wrote:
Atheists don't believe in God. They say you cease to exist when you die.
With that in mind, I wonder at the rage atheists express over Alejandro
Avila and his murder
of Samantha Runnion, or their rage at any other killer. What if someone
wanted to rape and murder a seven year old girl? Sure, you might be able to
say it's morally wrong. But what does that matter? In their opinion we are
all going to face the horror of oblivion one day. One day when our bodies
die, that will be it... we will cease to exist. Hitler, Stalin, PolPot, Mao,
Genghis Khan, all faced or will face the exact same fate that happened to
Jesus christ, Mother Theresa and Ghandi. Atheists tell us that no
matter how morally good you are, you will face the exact same end
result as the worst child molestor that ever lived. So what's the point
of being good? The answer is that there is none.
So, you're saying that people can earn a ticket to Heaven by being
good? Most Christians disagree with you on that point.
--Billy
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| User: "EagleEye" |
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23 Nov 2005 02:20:20 AM |
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So, you're saying that people can earn a ticket to Heaven by being
good? Most Christians disagree with you on that point.
Our work is to recieve and to believe and in the process of being
processed, we become good as a cup overflowing with the goodness of
God.
There is no TRY. No half measures. No luke warm. It's either yes, or
no, and when we fail we fail, and when we fall we fall, but however
slowly or quickly, a transformation is going to occur, one way or
another. We either must give ourselves wholeheartedly, or give nothing
of ourselves. Christ goes to the depths, and to the core, and is
totally uncompromising in his love, thank GOD!
Be careful atheists and unbelievers, because if you hang around these
Christian NG's long enough, you will end up becoming a Christian. Can't
not in the end. It touches you, and then eventually it lays hold of
you, and there is no escape. :-) Don't worry, it's ALL good! There is
only one part of you which might worry, and that's the very part who
needs to die or be enveloped and transformed by the Spirit of God who
loves you, the whole you worts and all, but he'll treat the worts
BECAUSE he loves you and only wants the very best for you, so that you
will be truly happy and joy filled.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
23 Nov 2005 02:46:35 AM |
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On 23 Nov 2005 00:20:20 -0800 in alt.atheism, EagleEye ("EagleEye"
<jnewton@globalmanagement.ca>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
So, you're saying that people can earn a ticket to Heaven by being
good? Most Christians disagree with you on that point.
Our work is to recieve and to believe and in the process of being
processed, we become good as a cup overflowing with the goodness of
God.
There is no TRY. No half measures. No luke warm. It's either yes, or
no, and when we fail we fail, and when we fall we fall, but however
slowly or quickly, a transformation is going to occur, one way or
another. We either must give ourselves wholeheartedly, or give nothing
of ourselves. Christ goes to the depths, and to the core, and is
totally uncompromising in his love, thank GOD!
Be careful atheists and unbelievers, because if you hang around these
Christian NG's long enough, you will end up becoming a Christian.
Actually, I think you'll find that it's vastly the other way around.
Perhaps someone here in aa will be kind enough to post a link to the
deconversion list.
By the same token, I'd be surprised if you could name 5 aa regulars
who've converted to any form of Christianity.
Can't
not in the end. It touches you, and then eventually it lays hold of
you, and there is no escape. :-) Don't worry, it's ALL good! There is
only one part of you which might worry, and that's the very part who
needs to die or be enveloped and transformed by the Spirit of God who
loves you, the whole you worts and all, but he'll treat the worts
BECAUSE he loves you and only wants the very best for you, so that you
will be truly happy and joy filled.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. www.video2cd.co.uk. Your 8mm films on DVD.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
23 Nov 2005 09:34:39 AM |
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"EagleEye" <jnewton@globalmanagement.ca> wrote in
news:1132734020.847495.37510@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
So, you're saying that people can earn a ticket to Heaven by being
good? Most Christians disagree with you on that point.
Our work is to recieve and to believe and in the process of being
processed, we become good as a cup overflowing with the goodness of
God.
There is no TRY. No half measures. No luke warm. It's either yes, or
no, and when we fail we fail, and when we fall we fall, but however
slowly or quickly, a transformation is going to occur, one way or
another. We either must give ourselves wholeheartedly, or give nothing
of ourselves. Christ goes to the depths, and to the core, and is
totally uncompromising in his love, thank GOD!
Be careful atheists and unbelievers, because if you hang around these
Christian NG's long enough, you will end up becoming a Christian.\
Don't hold your breath. We in alt.atheism have a pretty good record of
deconversions of people from Christian NGs.
Can't not in the end. It touches you, and then eventually it lays hold
of you, and there is no escape. :-) Don't worry, it's ALL good! There
is only one part of you which might worry, and that's the very part
who needs to die or be enveloped and transformed by the Spirit of God
who loves you, the whole you worts and all, but he'll treat the worts
BECAUSE he loves you and only wants the very best for you, so that you
will be truly happy and joy filled.
It's nice that you've managed to touch the core of your emotional being,
but what makes you so sure that atheists can't do that without all the
God trappings?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I actually think what we learned during the inspection
made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than,
in fact, we thought it was even before the war." -- David Kay
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6075
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
23 Nov 2005 08:39:38 AM |
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"EagleEye" <jnewton@globalmanagement.ca> wrote in message
news:1132734020.847495.37510@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
So, you're saying that people can earn a ticket to Heaven by being
good? Most Christians disagree with you on that point.
Our work is to recieve and to believe and in the process of being
processed, we become good as a cup overflowing with the goodness of
God.
There is no TRY. No half measures. No luke warm. It's either yes, or
no, and when we fail we fail, and when we fall we fall, but however
slowly or quickly, a transformation is going to occur, one way or
another. We either must give ourselves wholeheartedly, or give nothing
of ourselves. Christ goes to the depths, and to the core, and is
totally uncompromising in his love, thank GOD!
Be careful atheists and unbelievers, because if you hang around these
Christian NG's long enough, you will end up becoming a Christian.
What a crock!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
24 Nov 2005 09:44:13 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3ujd7hF11ib2uU1@individual.net...
"EagleEye" <jnewton@globalmanagement.ca> wrote in message
news:1132734020.847495.37510@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
So, you're saying that people can earn a ticket to Heaven by being
good? Most Christians disagree with you on that point.
Our work is to recieve and to believe and in the process of being
processed, we become good as a cup overflowing with the goodness of
God.
There is no TRY. No half measures. No luke warm. It's either yes, or
no, and when we fail we fail, and when we fall we fall, but however
slowly or quickly, a transformation is going to occur, one way or
another. We either must give ourselves wholeheartedly, or give nothing
of ourselves. Christ goes to the depths, and to the core, and is
totally uncompromising in his love, thank GOD!
Be careful atheists and unbelievers, because if you hang around these
Christian NG's long enough, you will end up becoming a Christian.
What a crock!
Robyn Resident Witchypoo #1557
No, the hope is, that more Christians can be converted to "Witchypoos"
or perhaps to just plain poo. I mean, why else would atheists proselytize in
our pristine Christian NGs?
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
24 Nov 2005 10:15:10 AM |
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"I mean, why else would atheists proselytize in our pristine Christian
NGs?"
[Try following the headers from the ORIGINAL poster, God's Truth, a
THEIST, who posted into your "prisitine" newsgroups as well as
alt.atheism. Tell that to him.]
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| User: "William T. Goat" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
26 Nov 2005 08:43:56 PM |
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EagleEye wrote:
William T. Goat wrote:
So, you're saying that people can earn a ticket to Heaven by being
good? Most Christians disagree with you on that point.
Our work is to recieve and to believe and in the process of being
processed, we become good as a cup overflowing with the goodness of
God.
All right, then. How can I believe?
Be careful atheists and unbelievers, because if you hang around these
Christian NG's long enough, you will end up becoming a Christian. Can't
not in the end. It touches you, and then eventually it lays hold of
you, and there is no escape. :-) Don't worry, it's ALL good!
I am asking you these questions, because I am sincerely trying to
understand. People accuse me of not looking hard enough, or caring
enough, to find God. So, I am going to keep asking these questions, and
trying to understand, so that nobody can say I wasn't trying.
I was raised Christian. I was convinced that God wanted me to kill
someone. Is that ALL good? If I ever became truly certain that the God
of Christianity exists... the God whose son said "Bring all those who
would not have me as their king, and slay them before me" (Luke
19:27)... I will kill people. Will God love me more that way?
My mother's third pregnancy ended in miscarriage. An unborn baby, who
never heard of Jesus, and thus was never a Christian. Thus, the unborn
baby is in Hell. Is that ALL good?
Please help me understand this.
--Billy
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
26 Nov 2005 08:56:44 PM |
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On 26 Nov 2005 18:43:56 -0800, "William T. Goat"
<ericvonl@my-deja.com> wrote:
EagleEye wrote:
William T. Goat wrote:
So, you're saying that people can earn a ticket to Heaven by being
good? Most Christians disagree with you on that point.
Our work is to recieve and to believe and in the process of being
processed, we become good as a cup overflowing with the goodness of
God.
All right, then. How can I believe?
Be careful atheists and unbelievers, because if you hang around these
Christian NG's long enough, you will end up becoming a Christian. Can't
not in the end. It touches you, and then eventually it lays hold of
you, and there is no escape. :-) Don't worry, it's ALL good!
I am asking you these questions, because I am sincerely trying to
understand. People accuse me of not looking hard enough, or caring
enough, to find God. So, I am going to keep asking these questions, and
trying to understand, so that nobody can say I wasn't trying.
I've never understood why they imagine we should do that. After all,
we would have to believe it exists to be searched for. Why can't they
enable brain before opening mouth?
I was raised Christian. I was convinced that God wanted me to kill
someone. Is that ALL good? If I ever became truly certain that the God
of Christianity exists... the God whose son said "Bring all those who
would not have me as their king, and slay them before me" (Luke
19:27)... I will kill people. Will God love me more that way?
My mother's third pregnancy ended in miscarriage. An unborn baby, who
never heard of Jesus, and thus was never a Christian. Thus, the unborn
baby is in Hell. Is that ALL good?
Please help me understand this.
--Billy
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
28 Nov 2005 02:23:04 AM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:rv7io193si5n367i4couj8litne61574at@4ax.com...
On 26 Nov 2005 18:43:56 -0800, "William T. Goat"
<ericvonl@my-deja.com> wrote:
EagleEye wrote:
William T. Goat wrote:
So, you're saying that people can earn a ticket to Heaven by being
good? Most Christians disagree with you on that point.
Our work is to recieve and to believe and in the process of being
processed, we become good as a cup overflowing with the goodness of
God.
All right, then. How can I believe?
Be careful atheists and unbelievers, because if you hang around these
Christian NG's long enough, you will end up becoming a Christian. Can't
not in the end. It touches you, and then eventually it lays hold of
you, and there is no escape. :-) Don't worry, it's ALL good!
I am asking you these questions, because I am sincerely trying to
understand. People accuse me of not looking hard enough, or caring
enough, to find God. So, I am going to keep asking these questions, and
trying to understand, so that nobody can say I wasn't trying.
I've never understood why they imagine we should do that. After all,
we would have to believe it exists to be searched for. Why can't they
enable brain before opening mouth?
I was raised Christian. I was convinced that God wanted me to kill
someone. Is that ALL good? If I ever became truly certain that the God
of Christianity exists... the God whose son said "Bring all those who
would not have me as their king, and slay them before me" (Luke
19:27)... I will kill people. Will God love me more that way?
My mother's third pregnancy ended in miscarriage. An unborn baby, who
never heard of Jesus, and thus was never a Christian. Thus, the unborn
baby is in Hell. Is that ALL good?
Please help me understand this.
--Billy
It's all very simple. That god of YOUR definition doesn't exist. Toss
him already and find a definition which makes sense. See below Christ
explaining the term to Philip.
Pastor Frank
"GOD" THE CHRISTIAN MEANING OF THE WORD ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE:
Jesus in Jn:4:24: "GOD IS A SPIRIT, and they that worship him must
worship him in spirit and in truth."
Jesus in John 14:6-10: Jesus saith unto him: "I am the way, the truth,
and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me,
ye should have known my Father also, and from henceforth YE KNOW HIM AND
HAVE SEEN HIM."
Philip saith unto him: "Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us."
Jesus saith unto him: "Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast
thou not known me, Philip? HE THAT HAS SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER;
and how sayest thou then: Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am
in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak
not of myself, but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
27 Nov 2005 12:06:26 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:56:44 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On 26 Nov 2005 18:43:56 -0800, "William T. Goat"
<ericvonl@my-deja.com> wrote:
EagleEye wrote:
William T. Goat wrote:
So, you're saying that people can earn a ticket to Heaven by being
good? Most Christians disagree with you on that point.
Our work is to recieve and to believe and in the process of being
processed, we become good as a cup overflowing with the goodness of
God.
All right, then. How can I believe?
Be careful atheists and unbelievers, because if you hang around these
Christian NG's long enough, you will end up becoming a Christian. Can't
not in the end. It touches you, and then eventually it lays hold of
you, and there is no escape. :-) Don't worry, it's ALL good!
I am asking you these questions, because I am sincerely trying to
understand. People accuse me of not looking hard enough, or caring
enough, to find God. So, I am going to keep asking these questions, and
trying to understand, so that nobody can say I wasn't trying.
I've never understood why they imagine we should do that. After all,
we would have to believe it exists to be searched for. Why can't they
enable brain before opening mouth?
Because they lack the functioning neurons.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "William T. Goat" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
25 Nov 2005 07:00:34 PM |
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EagleEye wrote:
So, you're saying that people can earn a ticket to Heaven by being
good? Most Christians disagree with you on that point.
Our work is to recieve and to believe and in the process of being
processed, we become good as a cup overflowing with the goodness of
God.
All right, then. How can I believe?
Be careful atheists and unbelievers, because if you hang around these
Christian NG's long enough, you will end up becoming a Christian. Can't
not in the end. It touches you, and then eventually it lays hold of
you, and there is no escape. :-) Don't worry, it's ALL good!
I was raised Christian. I was convinced that God wanted me to kill
someone. Is that ALL good?
--Billy
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
27 Nov 2005 03:09:12 PM |
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"William T. Goat" <ericvonl@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1132966834.625625.79430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
EagleEye wrote:
So, you're saying that people can earn a ticket to Heaven by being
good? Most Christians disagree with you on that point.
Our work is to recieve and to believe and in the process of being
processed, we become good as a cup overflowing with the goodness of
God.
All right, then. How can I believe?
Be careful atheists and unbelievers, because if you hang around these
Christian NG's long enough, you will end up becoming a Christian. Can't
not in the end. It touches you, and then eventually it lays hold of
you, and there is no escape. :-) Don't worry, it's ALL good!
I was raised Christian. I was convinced that God wanted me to kill
someone. Is that ALL good?
I was raised atheist and I was convince that we had to "liquidate" all
Christians. Fortunately I met Christ, much like Paul did, while aiming to
kill some more Christians.
It was all to the good.
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| User: "Bear" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
27 Nov 2005 04:36:41 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" wrote
: I was raised atheist and I was convince that we had to "liquidate" all
: Christians.
Are you sure that you are lying?
--
Bear
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn’t a choice or act of will — like theism; it’s a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
01 Dec 2005 05:45:35 AM |
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"Bear" <bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net> wrote in message
news:s-mdnQa7r9WLqBfeRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
"Pastor Frank" wrote
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: I was raised atheist and I was convince that we had to "liquidate"
all
: Christians.
Are you sure that you are lying?
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn’t a choice or act of will — like theism; it’s a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
Thanks for proving, that atheism is a crock. There are existing gods
aplenty in our museums and libraries, coming in both concrete and abstract
form. Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) and even the dumbest
atheist should know, that love exists.
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| User: "ZenIsWhen" |
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| Title: Re: The good things about atheism |
01 Dec 2005 08:09:06 AM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:1133437535.8f5e9fe976f733b8198b0e54063b67c8@fe5.teranews.com...
"Bear" <bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net> wrote in message
news:s-mdnQa7r9WLqBfeRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
"Pastor Frank" wrote
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: I was raised atheist and I was convince that we had to "liquidate"
all
: Christians.
Are you sure that you are lying?
There but for circumstances go I.
Being an atheist isn't a choice or act of will - like theism; it's a
consequence of what one knows and how one reasons.
Thanks for proving, that atheism is a crock. There are existing gods
aplenty in our museums and libraries, coming in both concrete and abstract
form. Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) and even the dumbest
atheist should know, that love exists.
But even the dumbest atheist recognizes - contrary to your lying claims -
"god=love" does NOT equate to "love=god"!
You've been told that numerous times ...................... claimed you
NEVER meant that .... and continue the bare faced lie!
The bible has MANY definitions and descriptions of god ......... your "god =
love" is but just one ...... and, obviously, a minor one at that!
Even the dumbest atheist would easily recognize that you are nothing more
than an egomaniac who uses, abuses and distorts the meaning of the bible and
christianity for your own arrogant use.
Christian, hell - you're nothing but a fraud!
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