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03 Aug 2006 12:03:48 AM |
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The Leftist Pledge Of Allegiance |
http://www.times-post.com/
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the socialist
doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular humanism,
inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral relativism for all.
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03 Aug 2006 01:32:46 AM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the socialist
doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular humanism,
inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral relativism for all.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| Title: Re: Jon Young's Pledge Of Allegiance |
03 Aug 2006 10:16:43 AM |
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On 03 Aug 2006 06:32:46 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Ray Fischer
racist pos
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| User: "Brian Westley" |
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| Title: Re: The Leftist Pledge Of Allegiance |
03 Aug 2006 10:43:33 AM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.times-post.com/
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the socialist
doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular humanism,
inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral relativism for all.
Hey moron, the original pledge of allegiance WAS written by a leftist.
He wrote it to promote Socialism.
Of course, it's rightwing fascists who want to require it,
because they're STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID!
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Merlyn LeRoy
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| User: "Chris H. Fleming" |
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03 Aug 2006 03:13:15 PM |
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Brian Westley wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.times-post.com/
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the socialist
doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular humanism,
inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral relativism for all.
Hey moron, the original pledge of allegiance WAS written by a leftist.
He wrote it to promote Socialism.
Of course, it's rightwing fascists who want to require it,
because they're STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID!
And with the intention to brainwash children into blind obedience to
the state.
Pledges of allegiance are examples of fascism, as are laws outlawing
the desecration of symbols. A country does not always deserve
allegiance nor respect. Our founding fathers seemed to understand this.
http://tinyurl.com/98rbf
No, that's not the Hitler Youth.
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| User: "Tinny Ray" |
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06 Aug 2006 03:34:12 PM |
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Another school year is here and it is time to teach students about
their right to reject the Pledge of Allegiance. The media should find
the courage to do their duty and inform the public about the anti
libertarian pledge and about shocking new historical discoveries from
the historian Dr. Rex Curry (a libertarian lawyer and author of "Pledge
of Allegiance Secrets" who provides pro bono services in schools
nationwide to educate students and teachers about their rights):
1. Professor Curry showed that the early Pledge to the USA's flag used
a straight-arm salute and it was the origin of the salute to the
swastika flag under the monstrous National Socialist German Workers'
Party (Nazis). Frightening photographs are at
http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html
2. The pledge began with a military salute that then stretched out
toward the flag. Due to the way that both gestures were used
sequentially, the military salute led to the Nazi salute. The Nazi
salute is an extended military salute.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html
3. The person who created the pledge was a self-proclaimed socialist in
the nationalism movement in the USA and he called his dogma "military
socialism" and it influenced socialists in Germany, and his pledge was
the origin of their salute to the swastika flag. "Nazi" means "National
Socialist German Workers' Party." Although the swastika was an ancient
symbol, it was also used sometimes by German National Socialists to
represent "S" letters for their "socialism," as shown by Dr. Curry
(author of "Swastika Secrets"). Hitler altered his own signature to
use the same stylized "S" letter for "socialist" and similar alphabetic
symbolism still shows on Volkswagens.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html
A new legal brief at the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
argues that the entire Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional and
should end. It also exposes the pledge as the origin of the notorious
striaght-arm salute used in Germany before WWII.
http://rexcurry.net/pledge-of-allegiance-newdow-rio-linda.html
Recent proposals of anti-desecration laws were aimed at a new fad in
schools: students and teachers remove flags from class rooms. School
officials occasionally find some of the flags desecrated or burned. In
the oddball states that mandate daily robotic chanting, students
sometimes see an empty space where the flag once hung. The trend
coincides with a spike in the number of students and teachers who
refuse to chanting each morning. Shocking new discoveries about the
Pledge of Allegiance, coupled with the the USA's expanding government,
are causing the anti-government trend among students.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1a1pledge-ch8a1a2.html
The pledge is part of the USA's growing police state. The insane
government in the USA could cause comatose persons to pledge
dis-allegiance, desecrate the flag, and recite a declaration of
independence. Remove the pledge from the flag, remove flags from
schools, remove schools from government.
http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html
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| User: "Bernard Curry" |
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10 Aug 2006 02:53:58 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:43:33 -0000, Brian Westley
<westley@visi.com> wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.times-post.com/
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the socialist
doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular humanism,
inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral relativism for all.
Hey moron, the original pledge of allegiance WAS written by a leftist.
He wrote it to promote Socialism.
Of course, it's rightwing fascists who want to require it,
because they're STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID!
Merlyn LeRoy
You should have seen that the pledge (which originally had
no reference to God ???) was not written by a communist
because it is nationalistic and opposed to communistic "one
world beliefs".
You also miss that "socialism", which signifies "belief in
society", is skewed by communists to signify "belief in
government control of capital" or "communism".
You also miss that there are two forms of communism: marxism
and fabianism (as in the Fabian Socialist Society of England
and its counterpart the CFR in the US). Marxism is
revolutionary. Fabianism is developmental (as in our US
school and tax systems). Both are forms of authoritarian
socialism -- the opposite of which is libertarian socialism.
Bernard Curry
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authority that begins within ourselves as individuals and within
the groups to which we belong.--Bernard Curry
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| User: "Brian Westley" |
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| Title: Re: The Leftist Pledge Of Allegiance |
10 Aug 2006 10:08:45 PM |
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Bernard Curry <bccom@ispwest.com> writes:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:43:33 -0000, Brian Westley
<westley@visi.com> wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.times-post.com/
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the socialist
doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular humanism,
inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral relativism for all.
Hey moron, the original pledge of allegiance WAS written by a leftist.
He wrote it to promote Socialism.
Of course, it's rightwing fascists who want to require it,
because they're STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID!
Merlyn LeRoy
You should have seen that the pledge (which originally had
no reference to God ???) was not written by a communist
because it is nationalistic and opposed to communistic "one
world beliefs".
Oddly enough, that's why I said it was written by a leftist
to promote Socialism.
You also miss that "socialism", which signifies "belief in
society", is skewed by communists to signify "belief in
government control of capital" or "communism".
No, you seemed to have missed my point.
My point was, and remains, that the pledge of allegiance was
written by a leftist to promote Socialism.
You also miss that there are two forms of communism: marxism
and fabianism (as in the Fabian Socialist Society of England
and its counterpart the CFR in the US). Marxism is
revolutionary. Fabianism is developmental (as in our US
school and tax systems). Both are forms of authoritarian
socialism -- the opposite of which is libertarian socialism.
You seemed to have missed my point yet again.
My point was, and remains, that the pledge of allegiance was
written by a leftist to promote Socialism.
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Merlyn LeRoy
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| User: "Bernard Curry" |
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| Title: Re: The Leftist Pledge Of Allegiance |
11 Aug 2006 01:50:50 AM |
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:08:45 -0000, Brian Westley
<westley@visi.com> wrote:
Bernard Curry < > writes:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:43:33 -0000, Brian Westley
<westley@visi.com> wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.times-post.com/
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the socialist
doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular humanism,
inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral relativism for all.
Hey moron, the original pledge of allegiance WAS written by a leftist.
He wrote it to promote Socialism.
Of course, it's rightwing fascists who want to require it,
because they're STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID!
Merlyn LeRoy
You should have seen that the pledge (which originally had
no reference to God ???) was not written by a communist
because it is nationalistic and opposed to communistic "one
world beliefs".
Oddly enough, that's why I said it was written by a leftist
to promote Socialism.
You also miss that "socialism", which signifies "belief in
society", is skewed by communists to signify "belief in
government control of capital" or "communism".
No, you seemed to have missed my point.
My point was, and remains, that the pledge of allegiance was
written by a leftist to promote Socialism.
You also miss that there are two forms of communism: marxism
and fabianism (as in the Fabian Socialist Society of England
and its counterpart the CFR in the US). Marxism is
revolutionary. Fabianism is developmental (as in our US
school and tax systems). Both are forms of authoritarian
socialism -- the opposite of which is libertarian socialism.
You seemed to have missed my point yet again.
My point was, and remains, that the pledge of allegiance was
written by a leftist to promote Socialism.
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Merlyn LeRoy
"Leftist" as you use it signifies communist.
"Socialism" as you use it signifies communism.
That is the significance given those words today.
So your point is that:
The pledge of allegiance was written by a communist to
promote communism.
Isn't that the point you are trying to make?
The only other point you could be trying to make, given that
"God" was aded to the pledge, is that:
The pledge of allegiance was written by a fascist to promote
fascism.
Otherwise, I have to admit, I can't discern the point you
are trying to make. Why don't you sharpen your point by
clarifying your verbiage.
Bernard Curry
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authority that begins within ourselves as individuals and within
the groups to which we belong.--Bernard Curry
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| User: "Brian Westley" |
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| Title: Re: The Leftist Pledge Of Allegiance |
11 Aug 2006 08:54:02 AM |
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Bernard Curry <bccom@ispwest.com> writes:
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:08:45 -0000, Brian Westley
<westley@visi.com> wrote:
Bernard Curry <bccom@ispwest.com> writes:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:43:33 -0000, Brian Westley
<westley@visi.com> wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.times-post.com/
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the socialist
doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular humanism,
inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral relativism for all.
Hey moron, the original pledge of allegiance WAS written by a leftist.
He wrote it to promote Socialism.
Of course, it's rightwing fascists who want to require it,
because they're STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID!
Merlyn LeRoy
You should have seen that the pledge (which originally had
no reference to God ???) was not written by a communist
because it is nationalistic and opposed to communistic "one
world beliefs".
Oddly enough, that's why I said it was written by a leftist
to promote Socialism.
You also miss that "socialism", which signifies "belief in
society", is skewed by communists to signify "belief in
government control of capital" or "communism".
No, you seemed to have missed my point.
My point was, and remains, that the pledge of allegiance was
written by a leftist to promote Socialism.
You also miss that there are two forms of communism: marxism
and fabianism (as in the Fabian Socialist Society of England
and its counterpart the CFR in the US). Marxism is
revolutionary. Fabianism is developmental (as in our US
school and tax systems). Both are forms of authoritarian
socialism -- the opposite of which is libertarian socialism.
You seemed to have missed my point yet again.
My point was, and remains, that the pledge of allegiance was
written by a leftist to promote Socialism.
"Leftist" as you use it signifies communist.
Not at all. "Leftist" as *I* use it, signifies "Leftist".
"Socialism" as you use it signifies communism.
Not at all. "Socialism" as *I* use it, signifies "Socialism".
That is the significance given those words today.
Only by people who are dumb enough to try to argue using
labels instead of actual concepts.
So your point is that:
The pledge of allegiance was written by a communist to
promote communism.
Isn't that the point you are trying to make?
No. You have to know what words actually mean to
understand what I write.
For example, "Communism" didn't even exist when Bellamy wrote
the pledge, so it would be nonsense to say a communist wrote
it to promote communism.
The only other point you could be trying to make, given that
"God" was aded to the pledge, is that:
The pledge of allegiance was written by a fascist to promote
fascism.
Otherwise, I have to admit, I can't discern the point you
are trying to make. Why don't you sharpen your point by
clarifying your verbiage.
My point was, and remains, that the pledge of allegiance was
written by a leftist to promote Socialism.
However, since you can't understand that "Leftist" means
"Leftist" and "Socialism" means "Socialism", I suppose
you will never be able to understand what I write.
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Merlyn LeRoy
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| Title: Re: The Leftist Pledge Of Allegiance |
11 Aug 2006 11:41:59 PM |
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"Brian Westley" <westley@visi.com> wrote in message
news:12dp2vq2hr92pe8@corp.supernews.com...
Bernard Curry <bccom@ispwest.com> writes:
Otherwise, I have to admit, I can't discern the point you
are trying to make. Why don't you sharpen your point by
clarifying your verbiage.
My point was, and remains, that the pledge of allegiance was
written by a leftist to promote Socialism.
However, since you can't understand that "Leftist" means
"Leftist" and "Socialism" means "Socialism", I suppose
you will never be able to understand what I write.
You could clarify your comments by explaining why Socialists aren't
Leftists. KM
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11 Aug 2006 09:17:43 AM |
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Alohacyberian wrote:
You could clarify your comments by explaining why Socialists aren't
Leftists. KM
Read Mussolini's 1922 definition of fascism.
Its socialism but explicitly against liberalism.
Socialism there is rightist.
Socialsim is wide range of economic ideas,
but there is no built in political orientation.
Socialists can very much be extreme rightists
ala Hitler and Mussolini. Or Peronism of Argentina.
Since far right socialism disappeared after WWII destroyed
far right socialism, you ignorant right wingers forget that
even existed for two decades.
The anti-liberalism of Hitler and Mussolinin escapes your
notice, due to your deep ingorance.
Nor is teh marxist collectivism socialsm, its colectivism which is
different.
Socialism as we know it today, in Sweden, Norway,
et al, is far different than the 'socialism'
of Stalin or Hitler.
Socialism is a strange word, It cause brain damage
in most people that hear that word.
--
"The world holds two classes of men -- intelligent
men without religion, and religious men without
intelligence".
- Abu'l-Ala-Al-Ma'arri (973-1057; Syrian poet)
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Bernard Curry" |
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13 Aug 2006 02:11:04 PM |
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:17:43 -0500, wcb
<wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
Snipped
Socialism is a strange word, It cause brain damage
in most people that hear that word.
Not least to yourself.
"Socialism" is a generic or primary "classification" word
that includes all classes of beliefs (isms) re social
organizatiion. The two sub-classes of "socialism" are
authoritarianism and libertarianism.
At that point there is more branching, so to focus on the
most important social doctrine, which is economics, one
needs focus on socioeconomics. Then, two subclasses of
socioecomics become apparent: authoritarian socioeconomics
and libertarian socioecomics.
That is where things clarify a bit. The two main subclasses
of authoritarian socioeconomics are communism and fascism.
At that point there is a logical or "word usage", problem
because of use of ambiguity. One form of ambiguity is
synonymy. Synonymy comes into the ideological picture
because in (supposedly) libertarian society such as the US,
no one openly espouses authoritarian socioeconomic doctrine.
So no authoritarian uses "fascism" or "communism".
Instead, in US socioeconomic theorizing today,"socialism",
"liberalism", "progressivism", "leftism", and ???, are used
as synonyms of "communism". To grasp that, one needs only to
cognize that authoritarians, by nature, deceive.
It can also be said that many men deceive themselves simply
because more are drawn to natural authoritarianism than to
artificial libertarianism. It is easy for such men to
nurture the idea of authoritarian, communist "One World
Government" or fascist "Economic Globalization".
Worse is that communists have learned to cooperate with the
fascists; who dominate authoritarianism (authoritarian
socioeconomics) anyway.
Bernard Curry
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The eternal vigil that is the price of liberty is a vigil against
authority that begins within ourselves as individuals and within
the groups to which we belong.--Bernard Curry
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| User: "Brian Westley" |
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13 Aug 2006 04:58:57 PM |
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Bernard Curry <bccom@ispwest.com> writes:
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Instead, in US socioeconomic theorizing today,"socialism",
"liberalism", "progressivism", "leftism", and ???, are used
as synonyms of "communism". To grasp that, one needs only to
cognize that authoritarians, by nature, deceive.
No, that's apparently how YOU use the words, to play idiotic
word games when other, more sensible people use different words
to refer to DIFFERENT concepts.
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Merlyn LeRoy
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03 Aug 2006 08:38:39 AM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:6YCdnYawMsdvHkzZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@giganews.com:
http://www.times-post.com/
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the
socialist doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular
humanism, inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral
relativism for all.
It lacks "snap."
--
Doc Smartass
Investigate.
Indict.
Impeach.
Imprison.
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03 Aug 2006 01:06:28 AM |
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wrote:
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations,
You know it was George Bush senior -- the first Bush
disaster -- who declared a "New World Order" back
in 1991.
Right?
That is when the term entered into popular use... and
lunatic right-wing mythology.
Why do I say "Lunatic" right-wing mythology?
Because you same mental cases who denouce world
government -- the "New World Order" -- as the tool
of Satan also support the people bringing it about.
Bush squeezes out a few Jesus references... beats on
homos now and then.... and you psychos *Coo* all
over him like a bunch of love birds.... even though he's
laboring on behalf of Satan, according to your own
mythology.
Now THAT'S insane!
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| User: "Harold Burton" |
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09 Aug 2006 06:39:55 PM |
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In article <1154585188.068137.236710@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
"JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
youngopinions@aol.com wrote:
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations,
You know it was George Bush senior -- the first Bush
disaster -- who declared a "New World Order" back
in 1991.
So?
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| User: "Bernard Curry" |
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08 Aug 2006 11:03:44 PM |
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On 2 Aug 2006 23:06:28 -0700, "JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com>
wrote:
youngopinions@aol.com wrote:
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations,
You know it was George Bush senior -- the first Bush
disaster -- who declared a "New World Order" back
in 1991.
Right?
Correct
That is when the term entered into popular use... and
lunatic right-wing mythology.
Incorrect. And you should know it. One world government
under communism is older than the League of Nations and the
communist Internationales.
Why do I say "Lunatic" right-wing mythology?
Because you same mental cases who denouce world
government -- the "New World Order" -- as the tool
of Satan also support the people bringing it about.
What you are choosing to ignore is that there are two sides
to such authoritarian world governing: communism and
fascism.
The communists have long been dominated by the fascists. One
of the Rockefellers supposedly had the only free entry into
Russiann air when communism still reigned there.
Bush 1's announcement of the "New World Order" was mere open
affirmation of fascist control of the communists and a
declaration that the New World Order is to be structured on
on fascist principles.
Bush squeezes out a few Jesus references... beats on
homos now and then.... and you psychos *Coo* all
over him like a bunch of love birds.... even though he's
laboring on behalf of Satan, according to your own
mythology.
Now THAT'S insane!
You are unaware or choose to ignore that Bush 2 and
Kerry are both members of Skull & Bones. (As is Bush 1 and,
I think, his father was too.) How's that for cooperation
between communists and fascists.
You do a pretty good *Coo* for communism yourself.
Bernard Curry
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The eternal vigil that is the price of liberty is a vigil against
authority that begins within ourselves as individuals and within
the groups to which we belong.--Bernard Curry
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| User: "Curt" |
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09 Aug 2006 01:56:09 AM |
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"Bernard Curry" <bccom@ispwest.com> wrote in message
news:bhmid2d5l5futegnt26cjgrd613ru2pahd@4ax.com...
You are unaware or choose to ignore that Bush 2 and
Kerry are both members of Skull & Bones. (As is Bush 1 and,
I think, his father was too.) How's that for cooperation
between communists and fascists.
While I'm aware of it, I don't find it significant. They went to the same
college. (Kerry earned his way in, bush The Lesser's family bought his way
in, of course, but they were both legitimately students at the same
college.) It's not surprising they might have belonged to some of the same
clubs. Eaten at the same commons, walked around on the same quad, etc etc.
Curt
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09 Aug 2006 05:36:30 PM |
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 23:56:09 -0700, "Curt" <cje@hevanet.com>
wrote:
"Bernard Curry" < > wrote in message
news:bhmid2d5l5futegnt26cjgrd613ru2pahd@4ax.com...
You are unaware or choose to ignore that Bush 2 and
Kerry are both members of Skull & Bones. (As is Bush 1 and,
I think, his father was too.) How's that for cooperation
between communists and fascists.
While I'm aware of it, I don't find it significant. They went to the same
college. (Kerry earned his way in, bush The Lesser's family bought his way
in, of course, but they were both legitimately students at the same
college.) It's not surprising they might have belonged to some of the same
clubs. Eaten at the same commons, walked around on the same quad, etc etc.
Curt
It would seem that way, I agree. But S&B is different.
Membership is closed to all but small number of prospective
members (I think 12 or 15)-- no more -- who are carefully
selected each year. As the relatively few that they are,
they occupy a disproportionate number of high places in
government. And most seem to be committed to life long
brotherood and complete secrecy.
I am convinced it was not coincidence that brought two of
them into contest for the presidency. The S&B wanted one of
their own in office. And for their own purposes.
In any case, it seems Bush 2 has less faith in our
Constitution than in the S&B.
Bernard Curry
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authority that begins within ourselves as individuals and within
the groups to which we belong.--Bernard Curry
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| Title: Re: The Leftist Pledge Of Allegiance |
08 Aug 2006 06:02:43 PM |
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Bernard Curry wrote:
Incorrect. And you should know it. One world government
under communism is older than the League of Nations and the
communist Internationales.
Wasn't that the goal both under the
Holy Roman empire and the Turks?
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"The world holds two classes of men -- intelligent
men without religion, and religious men without
intelligence".
- Abu'l-Ala-Al-Ma'arri (973-1057; Syrian poet)
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Bernard Curry" |
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| Title: Re: The Leftist Pledge Of Allegiance |
10 Aug 2006 12:56:06 PM |
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:02:43 -0500, wcb
<wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
Bernard Curry wrote:
Incorrect. And you should know it. One world government
under communism is older than the League of Nations and the
communist Internationales.
Wasn't that the goal both under the
Holy Roman empire and the Turks?
Well, using contemporary terms for historical systems, I
would say that the Roman and Turkish systems and goals were
fascistic. Fascism and communism are opposite forms of
authoritarianism but historical regimes never made any
pretense of working for the benefit of the populace as do
contemporary communists.
Authoritarian social systems are non-perpetuable. Our
problem in the U.S. is that communism and fascism now work
together (at least on the practical level) for mutual
benefit.
The solutions to social problems are in libertarianism --
but not _LPism_. LPists are more fascist authoritarian than
libertarian.
Bernard Curry
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authority that begins within ourselves as individuals and within
the groups to which we belong.--Bernard Curry
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| User: "Conspiracy of Doves" |
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| Title: Re: The Leftist Pledge Of Allegiance |
10 Aug 2006 03:15:48 PM |
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wrote:
http://www.times-post.com/
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the socialist
doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular humanism,
inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral relativism for all.
How about this one?
I pledge allegiance to my flag
And to the republic for which it stands
One nation, indivisible,
With liberty and justice for all.
By the way, you do realize that the original pledge of allegiance was
written by a socialist, don't you?
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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| Title: Re: The Leftist Pledge Of Allegiance |
03 Aug 2006 12:29:07 AM |
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wrote:
http://www.times-post.com/
*ahem* I would like to point out the following poll found on the
indicated site.
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WHICH OF THE FOLLOWING COURSES OF ACTION SHOULD ISRAEL TAKE?
Destroy Hezbollah
Destroy Hezbollah And Then Syria
Destroy Hezbollah, Syria, And Then Iran
Agree To A Cease-Fire And Continue Being Abused By Terrorists Forever
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Along with that "pledge" and the fact that their stories include at
least one discussing how Bush is in relatively good shape, I think we
can see precisely how credible this site is.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the socialist
doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular humanism,
inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral relativism for all.
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: The Leftist Pledge Of Allegiance |
03 Aug 2006 08:18:51 AM |
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Ku Klux Kook <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:6YCdnYawMsdvHkzZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.times-post.com/
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the
socialist doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular
humanism, inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral
relativism for all.
Looks like umlaut-boy has been visiting his favorite fascist websites again.
There's a surprise...
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J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: The Leftist Pledge Of Allegiance |
03 Aug 2006 09:42:53 AM |
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"LC" <LCisnot@this.com> wrote in message
news:east3q01e5f@enews1.newsguy.com...
Ku Klux Kook <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:6YCdnYawMsdvHkzZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.times-post.com/
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the
socialist doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular
humanism, inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral
relativism for all.
Looks like umlaut-boy has been visiting his favorite fascist websites
again.
There's a surprise...
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J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
Look at the people who inserted the words 'under God' into the 'Pledge' and
then ask yourself *who* is trying to impose *what* on whom?
Greywolf
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| User: "Don Homuth" |
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| Title: Re: The Leftist Pledge Of Allegiance |
03 Aug 2006 12:13:15 AM |
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On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 01:03:48 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Nations, and to the socialist
doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular humanism,
inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral relativism for all.
No Actual Leftist ever made that up.
It was composed by a Right Wingnut.
Most such nonsense is. This is no exception.
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