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"words of truth" |
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14 Dec 2005 04:28:01 PM |
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The Liberal War On Christmas |
http://www.michaelbrendan.com/blog/war-on-christmas.html
War on Christmas
First of all I want to thank my comrades in arms in this long winter
battle in the ongoing War on Christmas. I took a Season's Greetings
grenade blast in my left leg. But I managed to club a store clerk to
death who said "Happy Holidays"
But I'd like to just offer some thoughts on the War on Christmas.
Most liberals are now saying "Hey, hey hey! We didn't declare war
on Christmas."
Here however is the wonderful Andrew Cunningham
This BBC story about the fading English tradition of the nativity play
caught my eye. Actually, England might be a bit behind the curve if
their authorities are trying to deracinate their children by going to
the trouble of entirely banning Christmas. This side of the Atlantic,
the preferred tactic is to submerge the holiday in a sea of allegedly
analogous festivals of other cultures. A friend was telling me that her
kid's class has to celebrate the "season of festivals" by "doing
presentations" such vital December traditions as a Korean Doll Festival
(the one her unlucky son had drawn from the gender-neutral hat)...in
addition, no doubt, to Hanukkah, Kwanza, etc. etc. and, somewhere down
the list, the quaint story of a boy born in Bethlehem. So Christmas is
not "banned" at all--how could anyone say that? Au contraire, my
hysterical rightwing friends your Yule holiday is still very much in
the picture, in much the same sense that "Where's Waldo" is. -
I,Ectomorph
Exactly. There have been other developments that have raised the
consciousness of Christians regarding their situation vis-a-vis their
elite masters. Fifty years ago no Christian would have taken offense to
"Happy Holidays". Now that many Christians do is not, as our
shocked liberals believe, a vicious political radicalism infecting the
right-wing wackos - rather is it that the meaning of "Happy
Holidays" has changed. It still does mean "Happy Holidays" but it
has been, through the mandates of retail employers, ad campaigns, and
general cultural ubiquity come to be the approved, sanitized,
politically correct thing to say. Two years ago one of my fellow retail
clerks, a Christian by baptism, was offended by my using the word
"Christmas" freely with customers. This my friends is not
sensitivity - it is a ghetto mentality. Now that the word "Holiday"
has been taken to include Kwanza and Hanukkah and New Year's - it
is starting to strike at Christian symbols - we have "Holiday
Trees" and "traditional holiday stockings". You know, like Jews
have "Holiday candle-holders."
There is also the increasing elite consensus that religion is entirely
a personal and a private thing - a notion totally at odds with nearly
every religious tradition. This consensus leads to a feeling among
those who share elite sentiments that explicitly religious themes,
ideas and images in the marketplace are somehow shameful or offensive.
This mood trickles down and otherwise sane people begin self-censoring.
So liberals are shocked, shocked, shocked that we accuse them of making
war on Christmas. Then after they express their dismay at being falsely
accused they go on to condescendingly explain to us that the Puritans
banned Christmas, as John Stewart did tonight, and Ron Reagan did
earlier on MSNBC. The Puritans banned Christmas because they were
following their religious faith and imposing their beliefs on the
community - not because they held that Korean doll festivals were
co-equal with the Lord's birth. Then they explain to us that
Christmas is really a pagan holiday because Christmas trees aren't in
the Bible. I suppose because there are democratic institutions in
Washington D.C. (which was just a swamp at our Founding)- the
government in the Beltway isn't really the government of the United
States- it's the government of the Roman Republic. We liberals
don't hate Christmas, we just hate you. We're not insulting your
traditions we are just saying that you have a right to celebrate that
totally idiotic, misguided, half-pagan ritual honoring your hateful
God.
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| User: "655321" |
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| Title: Re: The Liberal War On Christmas |
14 Dec 2005 08:13:41 PM |
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On 2005-12-14 14:28:01 -0800, "words of truth"
<wordsoftruth@hoshmail.com> said:
First of all I want to thank my comrades in arms in this long winter
battle in the ongoing War on Christmas
Didn't the Commies rally the troops around battles against fake enemies?
--
GlennGlenn (655321) -- aa#825 --
"Genocide is used sparingly by God in only extreme circumstances." -Jim Spaza
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: The Liberal War On Christmas |
15 Dec 2005 08:35:38 AM |
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655321 wrote:
On 2005-12-14 14:28:01 -0800, "words of truth"
<wordsoftruth@hoshmail.com> said:
First of all I want to thank my comrades in arms in this long winter
battle in the ongoing War on Christmas
Didn't the Commies rally the troops around battles against fake enemies?
We are at war with Eurasia. We have *always* been at war with Eurasia.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[W]e have never held that moral disapproval, without any other asserted
state interest, is a sufficient rationale under the Equal Protection
Clause to justify a law that discriminates among groups of persons."
- Sandra Day O`Conner, _Lawrence v Texas_
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=000&invol=02-102
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| User: "Michael Brendan" |
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| Title: Re: The Liberal War On Christmas |
15 Dec 2005 05:12:43 PM |
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I saw that people were linking up to my site from here.
Very interesting.
First, as one should expect from humorless atheists - no one
understands that the opening of my post was a parody of the "War on
Christmas" rhetoric. Does anyone really think a liberal hit me with a
hand grenade?
Secondly. It was implied that I supported the war in Iraq - I don't -
have never supported such and never voted for Bush and am not
registered a Republican. I am a "Conservative" of a type. I voted for
Nader in the last election because, he, unlike John Kerry actually
opposed our invasion of Iraq.
Thirdly, I'm not jealous of John Gibson - but an interesting fact - I
was interning at Sentinel Books this past spring and got to see
Gibson's book in pre-production.
No one has substantially engaged what I thought was the main point of
my post. And you have amply demonstrated my final point - which was
that Liberals don't hate Christmas they hate Christians - or at least
Christians that do not temper or qualify their faith with handed down
Enlightenment platitudes or modernist bromides.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The Liberal War On Christmas |
14 Dec 2005 08:11:28 PM |
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The War on Christams was made up by the Republicans just to bash
liberals. It's one of their favorite tactics.
Consider how they berated "liberal" Walmart for saying Happy Holidays
and not Merry Christmas. All the while, if you were to call Walmart and
be placed on hold you'd be listening to Christmas music, and very
Religious Christmas music at that. But this is how the Republicans
nitpick the facts to make it appear to support their stance. It is
exactly what they do when they reference a particular court case
pertaining to the separation of church and state. There are 300 million
people in this country. Obviously there's going to be a couple such
cases going on somewhere in the country at almost any given time --its
the nature of statisics combined with a free society. But Republican
nitpick the cases and make it appear as if the whole nation is being
overrun with the issue.
A perfect example of this kind of tactic which Republicans use, having
nothing to do Chirstmas... you may recall the brief stink about
"Rainbow Parties". They claimed middle school girls would buy mulitple
colors of lipstick, invite boys over, pick colors and give them blow
jobs thus marking them with their color. And if that wasn't bad
enough. Someone wrote a young adults book portraying this activity
which was being put on middle school library shelves and being made
manditroy reading b/c it was sexually educational. This is all true,
Fox News reported it for about a week, and had special expert guest on
to discuss the grave situation --before the story finally disappeared
w/o a trace. Turns out none of it is really true, although the book
does exist --it was only ever on the shelves of one middle school
library --a mostly poor black school (where it was probably planted
anyway) As it turns out the book was written by a well know free-lance
author who works for commissions --someone paid him to write the book.
And guess who published it? Simon and Schuster. You'd think you could
trust Simon and Schuster. But guess who owns them? Viacom Inc. who owns
Nickeldoeon, CBS, UPN, NOGGIN, Paramount and MTV, just to name a few.
BTW perhaps this tactic of making up false pretenses to start a "war"
might sound familiar.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: The Liberal War On Christmas |
14 Dec 2005 08:15:08 PM |
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In article <1134612688.579354.119120@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> writes:
The War on Christams was made up by the Republicans just to bash
liberals. It's one of their favorite tactics.
Consider how they berated "liberal" Walmart for saying Happy Holidays
and not Merry Christmas. All the while, if you were to call Walmart and
be placed on hold you'd be listening to Christmas music, and very
Religious Christmas music at that. But this is how the Republicans
nitpick the facts to make it appear to support their stance. It is
exactly what they do when they reference a particular court case
pertaining to the separation of church and state. There are 300 million
people in this country. Obviously there's going to be a couple such
cases going on somewhere in the country at almost any given time --its
the nature of statisics combined with a free society. But Republican
nitpick the cases and make it appear as if the whole nation is being
overrun with the issue.
A perfect example of this kind of tactic which Republicans use, having
nothing to do Chirstmas... you may recall the brief stink about
"Rainbow Parties". They claimed middle school girls would buy mulitple
colors of lipstick, invite boys over, pick colors and give them blow
jobs thus marking them with their color. And if that wasn't bad
enough. Someone wrote a young adults book portraying this activity
which was being put on middle school library shelves and being made
manditroy reading b/c it was sexually educational. This is all true,
Fox News reported it for about a week, and had special expert guest on
to discuss the grave situation --before the story finally disappeared
w/o a trace. Turns out none of it is really true, although the book
does exist --it was only ever on the shelves of one middle school
library --a mostly poor black school (where it was probably planted
anyway) As it turns out the book was written by a well know free-lance
author who works for commissions --someone paid him to write the book.
And guess who published it? Simon and Schuster. You'd think you could
trust Simon and Schuster. But guess who owns them? Viacom Inc. who owns
Nickeldoeon, CBS, UPN, NOGGIN, Paramount and MTV, just to name a few.
BTW perhaps this tactic of making up false pretenses to start a "war"
might sound familiar.
Well done.
-- cary
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: The Liberal War On Christmas |
14 Dec 2005 08:57:07 PM |
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in article 1134599281.890304.247180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, words of
truth at wrote on 12/14/05 5:28 PM:
http://www.michaelbrendan.com/blog/war-on-christmas.html
Mike resents that all he gets is to rant in his free time, while
John Gibson earns the big money and media spotlight.
Paul
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| User: "GoDrex" |
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| Title: Re: The Liberal War On Christmas |
14 Dec 2005 07:20:06 PM |
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you are a moron and there should be a War on You
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