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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Jerry Kraus" |
| Date: |
30 Nov 2007 01:24:16 PM |
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The Nazi Pope decries Atheism!!! |
Well, excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me, Mr. Ratzinger! Speaking with all the
authority of one of the Third Reiches' own, Pope Benedict aka Cardinal
Ratzinger, the former Wehrmacht soldier who has engineered his way to
the Papacy, much to the regret of catholics worldwide and much to the
embarrassment of Germans, has explained that all of the world's
problems are derived from Atheism. No wonder Dante put all the Popes
in Hell!!
Actually, Ratzo, all the world's problems are derived from lying,
manipulative, hypocrites like yourself, who engineer their way into
positions of power through deception and intimidation, and use their
power to exploit, confuse and control other people for no useful
purpose other than their own personal gratification and power. Just
in case you were wondering. Always nice to chat with you, Ratzo. Do
send us another line, sometime.
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| User: "Topaz" |
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| Title: Re: The Nazi Pope decries Atheism!!! |
30 Nov 2007 09:20:02 PM |
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Here is part of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
Nuernberg on September 13th, 1935 at the Seventh National-Socialist
Party Congress:
"Almost without exception, the intellectual leaders of Marxist atheism
in Germany were Jews, among them being Erich Weinert, Felix Abraham,
Dr. Levy-Lenz and others. At regular meetings, held in the presence of
a notary public, members were requested to register their declaration
of withdrawal from their church for a fee of 2 Marks. And this the
fight for atheism was carried on. Between 1918 and 1933 the
withdrawals from the German Evangelical Churches alone amounted to
two-and-a-half million persons in Germany. The programme which these
atheistic societies laid down in regard to sexual matters is amply
charcterized in the following demands publicly expressed at meetings
and distributed in leaflet form:
1) The complete abrogation of the paragraphs of the law dealing with
the crime of abortion, and the right to have abortion procured free of
charge in State Hospitals.
2) Non-interference with prostitution.
3) The abrogation of all bourgeois-capitalistic regulations in regard
to marriage and divorce.
4) Official registration to be optional and the children to be
educated by the community.
5) Abrogation of all penalties for sexual perversities and amnesty to
be granted to all persons condemned as 'sexual criminals'.
"Truly a case of methodical insanity, which has for its aim the
wilful destruction of the nations and their civilization and the
substitute of barbarism as a fundamental principle of public life.
"Where are the men behind the scenes of this virulent world
movement? Who are the inventors of all this madness? Who transplanted
this ensemble into Russia and is today making the attempt to have it
prevail in other countries? The answer to these question discloses the
actual secret of our anti-Jewish policy and our uncomromising fight
against Jewry; for the Bolshevic International is in reality nothing
less than a Jewish International."
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: The Nazi Pope decries Atheism!!! |
01 Dec 2007 12:15:01 AM |
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Topaz wrote:
Here is part of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
Nuernberg on September 13th, 1935 at the Seventh National-Socialist
Party Congress:
no wonder he did away with himself rather than be tried by three
Christian countries, Britain, America and France !
"Almost without exception, the intellectual leaders of Marxist atheism
in Germany were Jews, among them being Erich Weinert, Felix Abraham,
Dr. Levy-Lenz and others. At regular meetings, held in the presence of
a notary public, members were requested to register their declaration
of withdrawal from their church for a fee of 2 Marks. And this the
fight for atheism was carried on. Between 1918 and 1933 the
withdrawals from the German Evangelical Churches alone amounted to
two-and-a-half million persons in Germany. The programme which these
atheistic societies laid down in regard to sexual matters is amply
charcterized in the following demands publicly expressed at meetings
and distributed in leaflet form:
1) The complete abrogation of the paragraphs of the law dealing with
the crime of abortion, and the right to have abortion procured free of
charge in State Hospitals.
2) Non-interference with prostitution.
3) The abrogation of all bourgeois-capitalistic regulations in regard
to marriage and divorce.
4) Official registration to be optional and the children to be
educated by the community.
5) Abrogation of all penalties for sexual perversities and amnesty to
be granted to all persons condemned as 'sexual criminals'.
"Truly a case of methodical insanity, which has for its aim the
wilful destruction of the nations and their civilization and the
substitute of barbarism as a fundamental principle of public life.
"Where are the men behind the scenes of this virulent world
movement? Who are the inventors of all this madness? Who transplanted
this ensemble into Russia and is today making the attempt to have it
prevail in other countries? The answer to these question discloses the
actual secret of our anti-Jewish policy and our uncomromising fight
against Jewry; for the Bolshevic International is in reality nothing
less than a Jewish International."
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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| User: "Topaz" |
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01 Dec 2007 05:44:56 PM |
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German leaders believed in death before dishonor. They knew the
allies were subhuman monsters:
Eyewitness account by Mrs. Leonora Geier (nee Cavoa, born Oct 22,
1925, Sao Paulo,
Brazil) to Dr. Trutz Foelsche, Ph.D
Deutsche Nationalzeitung, No. 17-65, p. 7:
"On the morning of February, 16, (1945) a Russian detachment
occupied the RAD
(Reichsarbeitsdienst) camp Vilmsee near Neustettin. The Commissar told
me in good
German language that the camp was dissolved and that we, as a unit
with uniforms (RAD - German Labour Service, not military uniforms),
would be transported to a collection camp. Since I, as a Brazilian
citizen, belong to an allied nation, he asked me to take over
as a leader of the transport that went to Neustettin, into the yard of
the former iron factory. We were about 500 girls (Maidens of the
Reichsarbeitsdienst - German Labour Service).
He said I could come into the orderly room, which I accepted.
Immediately he directed
me to make no further contact with other women, because they were
members of an illegal army. On my response that this what not true, he
cut me off with the remark that I would be shot immediately, if I
would repeat in any form a similar statement.
"Suddenly I heard loud screams, and promptly five girls were brought
in by the two Red Armists. The Commissar ordered them to undress. When
they, in a sense of shame, refused to do so, he ordered me to undress
them and follow him with the girls. We walked through the yard to the
former factory kitchen, which was completely cleared out
except for some tables along the window wall. It was dreadfully cold
and the unfortunate girls trembled. In the huge tiled room several
Russians waited for us who were obviously making obscene remarks
because every word was followed by loud laughter.
The Commissar then directed me to watch how one makes sissies out of
'The Master Race'.
Now two Poles, clad in trousers only, entered the room. At their
sight the girls cried out.
Briskly, they seized the first of the two girls and bent her over with
her back over the edge of the table until her joints cracked. I almost
fainted when one of the men pulled his knife and cut off her right
breast in the presence of the other girls. I have never heard a
human being scream as desperately as this young woman. After this
'operation' both men stabbed her several times in the abdomen,
accompanied by the howling of the Russians.
The next girl cried for mercy, in vain, since she was exceptionally
pretty. I had the impression that the 'work' was carried out very
slowly. The other three girls were completely broken down, cried for
their mothers and begged for a speedy death, but also
fate them overtook.
The last of the girls was still half a child, with barely developed
breasts, one tore the
flesh literally from her ribs until the white bone appeared.
Again, five girls were brought in. This time, they had been selected
carefully. All were
developed and pretty. When they saw the bodies of their predecessors,
they began to cry and scream. Weak as they were, they tried to defend
themselves but to no avail; the Poles became more cruel every time.
One of the girls, they cut open her womb and trunk over the whole
length; poured a can of machine oil into the mutilated body and tried
to set fire
to it. Another was shot in the genitals by a Russia, before they cut
off her breasts.
A great howling began when someone brought a saw from a toolbox.
Now, using the saw, they set to work to the breasts of the girls to
pieces, which in a short period of time
led to the floor being covered with blood. A blood rage seized the
Russians. Continuously
one of them brought more and more girls.
Like a red fog, I saw the gruesome happenings again and again and I
perceived the inhuman screaming at the torture of their breasts and
the load groaning at the mutilation of their private parts. When my
legs failed me I was forced into a chair. The Commissar persistently
watched me to make sure I was looking toward the torture scenes. In
fact, when I had to vomit, they even paused with their tortures. One
girl had not undressed completely, she may have been somewhat older
than the rest of the girls who were about 17-years old. One of the
torturers soaked her bra with oil and ignited it and, while she cried
out, another drove a thin iron rod into her vagina until it emerged at
her naval.
In the yard they liquidated entire groups of girls, after they had
selected the prettiest ones for the torture room. The air was filled
with the death cries of many hundreds of girls. But in view of what
happened here, the slaughter outside could be considered more humane.
It was a dreadful fact that not one of the girls brought into the
torture room lost here consciousness.
In their horror all were equal in their expressions. It was always
the same; the begging for mercy, the high-pitched scream when their
breasts were cut and their genitals mutilated. Several times the
slaughter was interrupted to sweep out the blood and to clear away the
corpses.
That evening I sank into a severe nerve fever. From then on I lack
any recollection
until the moment I awoke in a military hospital. German troops had
recaptured Neustettin temporarily, and had liberated us. As I learned
later, approximately 2,000 girls were murdered during the first three
days of the first round of Russian occupation."
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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| User: "PerfectlyAble" |
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| Title: Re: The Nazi Pope decries Atheism!!! |
01 Dec 2007 12:59:43 AM |
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On Dec 1, 7:15 pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:
Topaz wrote:
Here is part of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
Nuernberg on September 13th, 1935 at the Seventh National-Socialist
Party Congress:
no wonder he did away with himself rather than be tried by three
Christian countries, Britain, America and France !
Talk about theft, Christians claiming every soldier in
the Allied Armies died for Jesus. Atheists,
Protestants, Catholics, Muslims, Hindus, Jews all
have died for the defense of freedom in both
World Wars. I pity you that you lie to save face.
Freedom from religious states.
"Almost without exception, the intellectual leaders of Marxist atheism
in Germany were Jews, among them being Erich Weinert, Felix Abraham,
Dr. Levy-Lenz and others. At regular meetings, held in the presence of
a notary public, members were requested to register their declaration
of withdrawal from their church for a fee of 2 Marks. And this the
fight for atheism was carried on. Between 1918 and 1933 the
withdrawals from the German Evangelical Churches alone amounted to
two-and-a-half million persons in Germany. The programme which these
atheistic societies laid down in regard to sexual matters is amply
charcterized in the following demands publicly expressed at meetings
and distributed in leaflet form:
1) The complete abrogation of the paragraphs of the law dealing with
the crime of abortion, and the right to have abortion procured free of
charge in State Hospitals.
2) Non-interference with prostitution.
3) The abrogation of all bourgeois-capitalistic regulations in regard
to marriage and divorce.
4) Official registration to be optional and the children to be
educated by the community.
5) Abrogation of all penalties for sexual perversities and amnesty to
be granted to all persons condemned as 'sexual criminals'.
"Truly a case of methodical insanity, which has for its aim the
wilful destruction of the nations and their civilization and the
substitute of barbarism as a fundamental principle of public life.
"Where are the men behind the scenes of this virulent world
movement? Who are the inventors of all this madness? Who transplanted
this ensemble into Russia and is today making the attempt to have it
prevail in other countries? The answer to these question discloses the
actual secret of our anti-Jewish policy and our uncomromising fight
against Jewry; for the Bolshevic International is in reality nothing
less than a Jewish International."
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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| User: "Bum A. Long" |
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01 Dec 2007 06:20:45 AM |
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Call me all the names you like. ATHEISTS MURDER MORE PEOPLE THAN
CHRISTIANS AND JEWS, AND I AM NOT BUDGING FROM THAT STATEMENT!!!
WHY OH WHY DO ATHEISTS FEAR GOD???? IF HE DOES NOT EXIST, THEN WHY DO
YOU FEAR HIM????
You lie when you breathe. You trip over your tongues when you vomit
your anti-God nonsense. You deliberately blind yourself to the
obvious truth.
NO WONDER THE WORLD IS IN SUCH TURMOIL!!!!!
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:59:43 -0800 (PST), PerfectlyAble
<jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote:
On Dec 1, 7:15 pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:
Topaz wrote:
Here is part of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered
in
Nuernberg on September 13th, 1935 at the Seventh
National-Socialist
Party Congress:
no wonder he did away with himself rather than be tried by three
Christian countries, Britain, America and France !
Talk about theft, Christians claiming every soldier in
the Allied Armies died for Jesus. Atheists,
Protestants, Catholics, Muslims, Hindus, Jews all
have died for the defense of freedom in both
World Wars. I pity you that you lie to save face.
Freedom from religious states.
"Almost without exception, the intellectual leaders of Marxist
atheism
in Germany were Jews, among them being Erich Weinert, Felix
Abraham,
Dr. Levy-Lenz and others. At regular meetings, held in the
presence of
a notary public, members were requested to register their
declaration
of withdrawal from their church for a fee of 2 Marks. And this
the
fight for atheism was carried on. Between 1918 and 1933 the
withdrawals from the German Evangelical Churches alone amounted
to
two-and-a-half million persons in Germany. The programme which
these
atheistic societies laid down in regard to sexual matters is
amply
charcterized in the following demands publicly expressed at
meetings
and distributed in leaflet form:
1) The complete abrogation of the paragraphs of the law dealing
with
the crime of abortion, and the right to have abortion procured
free of
charge in State Hospitals.
2) Non-interference with prostitution.
3) The abrogation of all bourgeois-capitalistic regulations in
regard
to marriage and divorce.
4) Official registration to be optional and the children to be
educated by the community.
5) Abrogation of all penalties for sexual perversities and
amnesty to
be granted to all persons condemned as 'sexual criminals'.
"Truly a case of methodical insanity, which has for its aim
the
wilful destruction of the nations and their civilization and the
substitute of barbarism as a fundamental principle of public
life.
"Where are the men behind the scenes of this virulent world
movement? Who are the inventors of all this madness? Who
transplanted
this ensemble into Russia and is today making the attempt to have
it
prevail in other countries? The answer to these question
discloses the
actual secret of our anti-Jewish policy and our uncomromising
fight
against Jewry; for the Bolshevic International is in reality
nothing
less than a Jewish International."
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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| User: "thomas p." |
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| Title: Re: The Nazi Pope decries Atheism!!! |
01 Dec 2007 09:22:16 AM |
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"Bum A. Long" <bumalong@aol.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:77k2l3lvk39j3d96tr7mp3r4u29jmgk283@4ax.com...
Call me all the names you like. ATHEISTS MURDER MORE PEOPLE THAN
CHRISTIANS AND JEWS, AND I AM NOT BUDGING FROM THAT STATEMENT!!!
How terrible! I am so upset; you just wouldn't believe how upset I am.
WHY OH WHY DO ATHEISTS FEAR GOD???? IF HE DOES NOT EXIST, THEN WHY DO
YOU FEAR HIM????
If you love your wife, why do you keep beating her?
You lie when you breathe. You trip over your tongues when you vomit
your anti-God nonsense. You deliberately blind yourself to the
obvious truth.
NO WONDER THE WORLD IS IN SUCH TURMOIL!!!!!
If only you would stop torturing little kittens the world would be fine.
snip
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| User: "bob young" |
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01 Dec 2007 10:51:02 PM |
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"Bum A. Long" wrote:
Call me all the names you like.
Wouldn't dream of doing that. We leave the name calling to religionists,
they never fail ti become nasty and insulting after getting their backs
up against the wall which usually takes the exchange of about three posts
ATHEISTS MURDER MORE PEOPLE THAN
CHRISTIANS AND JEWS, AND I AM NOT BUDGING FROM THAT STATEMENT!!!
Well try proving it.
[show mw one atheist military flag and then go to your local church and
see all the Christian war flags hanging in the nave.
WHY OH WHY DO ATHEISTS FEAR GOD???? IF HE DOES NOT EXIST, THEN WHY DO
YOU FEAR HIM????
You fool. it is not your imaginary god we fear it is what idiots do in
the name of their gods. Right now in Sudan they are rioting in the
street wanting to hang a British school teacher because she let her class
name a teddy bear Mohammed. Six months ago in Indonesia three Christians
had their throats cut in a church by Muslims and the local press said the
government were waiting fro the Christian back lash.
You lie when you breathe.
No it was the prophets who did that. Moses for example - he climbed a
mountain to be near his god where, back then, they thought god lived,
just above the clouds. He then came down the mountain to the waiting
masses and lied through his teeth claiming to have talked with this god
which we now know does not live 'just above the clouds' since we fly
commercial jets there now. And you wonder why there are atheists !!!
Groan
You trip over your tongues when you vomit
your anti-God nonsense. You deliberately blind yourself to the
obvious truth.
Show, demonstrate and prove the 'obvious truth'. You cannot and you
never will - you follow a lost cause
NO WONDER THE WORLD IS IN SUCH TURMOIL!!!!!
See my notes above
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:59:43 -0800 (PST), PerfectlyAble
<jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote:
On Dec 1, 7:15 pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:
Topaz wrote:
Here is part of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered
in
Nuernberg on September 13th, 1935 at the Seventh
National-Socialist
Party Congress:
no wonder he did away with himself rather than be tried by three
Christian countries, Britain, America and France !
Talk about theft, Christians claiming every soldier in
the Allied Armies died for Jesus. Atheists,
Protestants, Catholics, Muslims, Hindus, Jews all
have died for the defense of freedom in both
World Wars. I pity you that you lie to save face.
Freedom from religious states.
"Almost without exception, the intellectual leaders of Marxist
atheism
in Germany were Jews, among them being Erich Weinert, Felix
Abraham,
Dr. Levy-Lenz and others. At regular meetings, held in the
presence of
a notary public, members were requested to register their
declaration
of withdrawal from their church for a fee of 2 Marks. And this
the
fight for atheism was carried on. Between 1918 and 1933 the
withdrawals from the German Evangelical Churches alone amounted
to
two-and-a-half million persons in Germany. The programme which
these
atheistic societies laid down in regard to sexual matters is
amply
charcterized in the following demands publicly expressed at
meetings
and distributed in leaflet form:
1) The complete abrogation of the paragraphs of the law dealing
with
the crime of abortion, and the right to have abortion procured
free of
charge in State Hospitals.
2) Non-interference with prostitution.
3) The abrogation of all bourgeois-capitalistic regulations in
regard
to marriage and divorce.
4) Official registration to be optional and the children to be
educated by the community.
5) Abrogation of all penalties for sexual perversities and
amnesty to
be granted to all persons condemned as 'sexual criminals'.
"Truly a case of methodical insanity, which has for its aim
the
wilful destruction of the nations and their civilization and the
substitute of barbarism as a fundamental principle of public
life.
"Where are the men behind the scenes of this virulent world
movement? Who are the inventors of all this madness? Who
transplanted
this ensemble into Russia and is today making the attempt to have
it
prevail in other countries? The answer to these question
discloses the
actual secret of our anti-Jewish policy and our uncomromising
fight
against Jewry; for the Bolshevic International is in reality
nothing
less than a Jewish International."
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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| User: "Bum A. Long" |
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02 Dec 2007 06:39:40 AM |
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Stalin was a warm, cuddly Uncle Joe Russian Orthodox Priest? Hitlerwas
a charming, well-mannered Catholic altar boy? Mao was a kindly, wise
Buddhist monk? You need treatment.
On 1 Dec 2007 22:51:02 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:
"Bum A. Long" wrote:
Call me all the names you like.
Wouldn't dream of doing that. We leave the name calling to
religionists,
they never fail ti become nasty and insulting after getting their
backs
up against the wall which usually takes the exchange of about three
posts
ATHEISTS MURDER MORE PEOPLE THAN
CHRISTIANS AND JEWS, AND I AM NOT BUDGING FROM THAT STATEMENT!!!
Well try proving it.
[show mw one atheist military flag and then go to your local church
and
see all the Christian war flags hanging in the nave.
WHY OH WHY DO ATHEISTS FEAR GOD???? IF HE DOES NOT EXIST, THEN WHY
DO
YOU FEAR HIM????
You fool. it is not your imaginary god we fear it is what idiots do
in
the name of their gods. Right now in Sudan they are rioting in the
street wanting to hang a British school teacher because she let her
class
name a teddy bear Mohammed. Six months ago in Indonesia three
Christians
had their throats cut in a church by Muslims and the local press said
the
government were waiting fro the Christian back lash.
You lie when you breathe.
No it was the prophets who did that. Moses for example - he climbed
a
mountain to be near his god where, back then, they thought god
lived,
just above the clouds. He then came down the mountain to the waiting
masses and lied through his teeth claiming to have talked with this
god
which we now know does not live 'just above the clouds' since we fly
commercial jets there now. And you wonder why there are atheists !!!
Groan
You trip over your tongues when you vomit
your anti-God nonsense. You deliberately blind yourself to the
obvious truth.
Show, demonstrate and prove the 'obvious truth'. You cannot and you
never will - you follow a lost cause
NO WONDER THE WORLD IS IN SUCH TURMOIL!!!!!
See my notes above
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:59:43 -0800 (PST), PerfectlyAble
<jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote:
On Dec 1, 7:15 pm, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:
Topaz wrote:
Here is part of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels,
delivered
in
Nuernberg on September 13th, 1935 at the Seventh
National-Socialist
Party Congress:
no wonder he did away with himself rather than be tried by three
Christian countries, Britain, America and France !
Talk about theft, Christians claiming every soldier in
the Allied Armies died for Jesus. Atheists,
Protestants, Catholics, Muslims, Hindus, Jews all
have died for the defense of freedom in both
World Wars. I pity you that you lie to save face.
Freedom from religious states.
"Almost without exception, the intellectual leaders of Marxist
atheism
in Germany were Jews, among them being Erich Weinert, Felix
Abraham,
Dr. Levy-Lenz and others. At regular meetings, held in the
presence of
a notary public, members were requested to register their
declaration
of withdrawal from their church for a fee of 2 Marks. And this
the
fight for atheism was carried on. Between 1918 and 1933 the
withdrawals from the German Evangelical Churches alone
amounted
to
two-and-a-half million persons in Germany. The programme which
these
atheistic societies laid down in regard to sexual matters is
amply
charcterized in the following demands publicly expressed at
meetings
and distributed in leaflet form:
1) The complete abrogation of the paragraphs of the law
dealing
with
the crime of abortion, and the right to have abortion procured
free of
charge in State Hospitals.
2) Non-interference with prostitution.
3) The abrogation of all bourgeois-capitalistic regulations in
regard
to marriage and divorce.
4) Official registration to be optional and the children to be
educated by the community.
5) Abrogation of all penalties for sexual perversities and
amnesty to
be granted to all persons condemned as 'sexual criminals'.
"Truly a case of methodical insanity, which has for its aim
the
wilful destruction of the nations and their civilization and
the
substitute of barbarism as a fundamental principle of public
life.
"Where are the men behind the scenes of this virulent
world
movement? Who are the inventors of all this madness? Who
transplanted
this ensemble into Russia and is today making the attempt to
have
it
prevail in other countries? The answer to these question
discloses the
actual secret of our anti-Jewish policy and our uncomromising
fight
against Jewry; for the Bolshevic International is in reality
nothing
less than a Jewish International."
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: The Nazi Pope decries Atheism!!! |
03 Dec 2007 08:36:50 AM |
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"Bum A. Long" <bumalong@aol.com> wrote in message
news:nn95l31fglaqb5e4r7nve30bhl01cmgi08@4ax.com...
Stalin was a warm, cuddly Uncle Joe Russian Orthodox Priest? Hitlerwas
a charming, well-mannered Catholic altar boy? Mao was a kindly, wise
Buddhist monk? You need treatment.
You don't actually think all those Nazi soldiers were atheists, do you?
Perhaps you could explain why they had "God is with us" on their uniform
belt buckles.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Jerry Kraus" |
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| Title: Re: The Nazi Pope decries Atheism!!! |
03 Dec 2007 09:15:56 AM |
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On Dec 3, 8:36 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Bum A. Long" <bumal...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:nn95l31fglaqb5e4r7nve30bhl01cmgi08@4ax.com...
Stalin was a warm, cuddly Uncle Joe Russian Orthodox Priest? Hitlerwas
a charming, well-mannered Catholic altar boy? Mao was a kindly, wise
Buddhist monk? You need treatment.
You don't actually think all those Nazi soldiers were atheists, do you?
Perhaps you could explain why they had "God is with us" on their uniform
belt buckles.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
Nazism in particular, and Fascism in general, are a direct outgrowth
of Christianity. They are a natural extension of the Book of
Revelation, and the notion that unlimited violence is necessary and
justifiable in order to separate the "just" from the "unjust".
Communism, on the other hand, is a direct outgrowth from Judaism. An
all-powerful central government -- Jehovah, by any other name --
regulates and controls all aspects of society for the benefit of all.
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03 Dec 2007 06:49:27 PM |
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Here is a quote from "The Battle for Berlin" by Joseph Goebbels:
We had no idea of the danger that threatened us then. I myself did not
yet know Marxism well enough to foresee the possible consequences. I
shrugged my shoulders as I read the dark prose of the red press and
awaited expectantly the decisive evening.
Around 8 p.m. we drove in an old rusty car from the city center to
Wedding. A cold gray mist hung under a starless sky. Our hearts were
bursting with impatience and expectation.
As we drove down Müllerstraße it was already clear that the evening
did not bode well. Groups of dark figures stood on every street
corner. They apparently planned to teach our party members a bloody
lesson before they even got to the meeting.
Dark masses of people stood outside the Pharus Hall, expressing their
rage and hate with loud and impudent threats.
The leader of the protective forces cleared a way for us and reported
briefly that the hall had been packed since 7:15 p.m. and had been
closed by police. About two-thirds of the audience were Red Front
Fighters. That was what we wanted. There would be a decision. We were
ready to give it all we had.
Entering the hall, we encountered a warm, stiffling aroma of beer and
tobacco. The hall was hot. A lively roar of voices filled the hall.
People were packed in tightly. We reached the podium only with
difficulty.
No sooner was I recognized than hundreds of voices filled with rage
and revenge thundered in my ears: "Bloodhound! Murder of Workers!"
Those were the mildest words they shouted. But a welcoming group of
some party members and S.A. Men answered with passion. Excited battle
cries sounded from the platform. I saw immediately that we were a
minority, but a minority determined to fight, and therefore win.
It was still our custom then for an S.A. leader to chair all of the
party's public meetings. Here too. Tall as a tree he stood up front
and asked for silence with his upraised arm. That was easier said than
done. Mocking laughter was the answer. Insults flew toward the
platform from every corner of the room. People growled and screamed
and raged. There were world revolutionaries scattered about who
apparently had gained the courage they needed by drinking. It was
impossible to quiet the hall. The class-conscious proletariat had not
come to discuss but to fight, to break things up, to put an end to the
Fascist specter with callused workers' fists.
We were not uncertain, even for a moment. We also knew that if the
enemy did not succeed this time in what he had threatened, the future
success of the movement in Berlin was assured.
Fifteen or twenty S.A. and S.S. men stood before the platform in
uniforms and arm bands, an impudent and direct provocation to the Red
Front Fighters. Behind me was a select group of reliable people ready
at any moment to risk their lives to defend me from the onrushing red
mob with brutal force.
The Communists made an obvious mistake in their tactics. They had
scattered small groups throughout the hall, but clumped most of the
rest in the right rear of the hall. I recognized immediately that
there was the center of unrest, and if anything was to be done, we
first had to deal ruthlessly with them. Whenever the chair tried to
open the meeting, a dark chap stood up on a stool and shouted "Point
of Order!" Hundreds of others yelled the same after him.
If one takes from the mass their leader or also their seducer, they
are leaderless and easily controlled. Our tactic therefore was to
silence this cowardly troublemaker at any cost. He felt secure back
there, surrounded by his comrades. We tried to do this peacefully a
few times. The chair shouted over the uproar: "There will be
discussion afterward! But we determine the rules of order!"
That was an ineffective attempt at an unsuitable object. The screamer
wanted to throw the meeting into confusion by his endless shouts and
bring things to the boiling point. Then a general melee would result.
As our efforts to bring the meeting to order peacefully proved
unsuccessful, I took the head of the defensive forces to the side, and
immediately after groups of his men slipped through the thundering
Communist masses. Before the astonished and surprised Red Front troops
realized what was happening, our comrades had hauled the troublemaker
down from his stool and brought him through the raging crowd to the
podium. That was unexpected, but what followed was no surprise. A beer
glass flew through the air and crashed to the floor. That was the
signal for the first major meeting hall battle. Chairs were broken and
legs ripped from tables. Glasses and bottles suddenly appeared and all
hell broke loose. The battle raged for ten minutes. Glasses, bottles,
table and chair legs flew randomly through the air. A deafening roar
rose; the red beast was set free and wanted its victims.
At first it looked as if we were lost. The Communist attack was sudden
and explosive, completely unexpected. But soon the S.A. and S.S. men
distributed throughout the hall and in front of the platform recovered
from their surprise and counterattacked with bold courage. It quickly
became clear that although the Communist Party had masses behind it,
these masses became cowards when faced with a firmly disciplined and
determined opponent. They ran. In short order the red mob that had
come to break up our meeting had been driven from the hall. The order
that could not be secured by good will was gained by brute force.
Usually one is not aware of the stages of a meeting hall battle. Only
later does one recall them. I still remember a scene that I will never
forget; on the podium stood a young S.A. man whom I did not know. He
was hurling his missiles into the on-coming red mob. Suddenly a beer
glass thrown from the distance hit him on the head. A wide stream of
blood ran down his face. He sank with a cry. After a few seconds he
stood up again, grabbed water bottle from the table and threw it into
the hall, where it clattered against the head of an opponent.
The face of this young man is engraved in my memory. This
lightening-fast moment is unforgettable. This gravely-wounded S.A. man
would soon, and indeed for all times, become my most reliable and
loyal comrade.
Only after the red mob had been driven howling, growling and cursing
from the field could one tell how serious and costly the battle had
been. Ten lay in their blood on the platform, most with head injuries,
two with severe concussions. The table and stairs to the platform were
covered in blood. The whole hall resembled a field of ruins.
In the midst of this bloody and ruined wasteland, our tree-high S.A.
leader resumed his place and declared with iron calm: "The meeting
will continue. The speaker has the floor."
Never before or since have I spoken under such dramatic conditions.
Behind me, groaning in pain and bleeding, were seriously injured S.A.
comrades. Around me were broken chair legs, shattered beer glasses and
blood. The whole meeting was icily silent.
We lacked then a medical corps. Since we were in a proletarian
district, we had to have our seriously wounded carried out by
so-called worker volunteers. There were scenes outdoors of
unimaginable inhumanity. The bestial people who were supposedly
fighting for universal brotherhood insulted our poor and defenseless
injured with phases like: "Isn't that pig dead yet?"
Under such conditions it was impossible to give a coherent speech.
Scarcely had I begun to speak when another group of volunteers entered
the hall to carry off a seriously wounded S.A. man on a stretcher. One
of them, encountering the brutal apostles of humanity outside the door
and their unflattering and crude language, shouted for me in
desperation. His voice could be heard loudly and unmistakably on the
platform I interrupted my speech and went through the hall, where
there were still scattered Communist commando groups. Still surprised
by what had happened, they stood quietly and shyly to the side. I bade
farewell to the seriously wounded S.A. comrades.
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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| User: "cactus" |
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03 Dec 2007 07:11:21 PM |
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Topaz wrote:
Here is a quote from "The Battle for Berlin" by Joseph Goebbels:
<snip nazi drivel from our resident nazi wannabe>
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| User: "cactus" |
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03 Dec 2007 11:00:03 AM |
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Jerry Kraus wrote:
On Dec 3, 8:36 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Bum A. Long" <bumal...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:nn95l31fglaqb5e4r7nve30bhl01cmgi08@4ax.com...
Stalin was a warm, cuddly Uncle Joe Russian Orthodox Priest? Hitlerwas
a charming, well-mannered Catholic altar boy? Mao was a kindly, wise
Buddhist monk? You need treatment.
You don't actually think all those Nazi soldiers were atheists, do you?
Perhaps you could explain why they had "God is with us" on their uniform
belt buckles.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
Nazism in particular, and Fascism in general, are a direct outgrowth
of Christianity. They are a natural extension of the Book of
Revelation, and the notion that unlimited violence is necessary and
justifiable in order to separate the "just" from the "unjust".
Communism, on the other hand, is a direct outgrowth from Judaism. An
all-powerful central government -- Jehovah, by any other name --
regulates and controls all aspects of society for the benefit of all.
That second paragraph is bizarre. Judaism's covenant is predicated on
both parties taking specified actions, a quid pro quo if you will.
There is no expression whatsoever of G-d running things for the benefit
of humanity. If you want to be mythic about it, the only place where
that happened was the Garden of Eden, where Adam and Eve did things that
spoiled it for everyone else who followed.
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| User: "Jerry Kraus" |
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03 Dec 2007 11:34:05 AM |
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On Dec 3, 11:00 am, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Jerry Kraus wrote:
On Dec 3, 8:36 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Bum A. Long" <bumal...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:nn95l31fglaqb5e4r7nve30bhl01cmgi08@4ax.com...
Stalin was a warm, cuddly Uncle Joe Russian Orthodox Priest? Hitlerwas
a charming, well-mannered Catholic altar boy? Mao was a kindly, wise
Buddhist monk? You need treatment.
You don't actually think all those Nazi soldiers were atheists, do you?
Perhaps you could explain why they had "God is with us" on their uniform
belt buckles.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
Nazism in particular, and Fascism in general, are a direct outgrowth
of Christianity. They are a natural extension of the Book of
Revelation, and the notion that unlimited violence is necessary and
justifiable in order to separate the "just" from the "unjust".
Communism, on the other hand, is a direct outgrowth from Judaism. An
all-powerful central government -- Jehovah, by any other name --
regulates and controls all aspects of society for the benefit of all.
That second paragraph is bizarre. Judaism's covenant is predicated on
both parties taking specified actions, a quid pro quo if you will.
There is no expression whatsoever of G-d running things for the benefit
of humanity. If you want to be mythic about it, the only place where
that happened was the Garden of Eden, where Adam and Eve did things that
spoiled it for everyone else who followed.- Hide quoted text -
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There's no "quid pro quo" in the Tanach -- the Old Testament. The
"Covenant" wasn't a sales contract! God didn't say "hey, give me so
many sacrifices, and follow these rules, and I'll give you
prosperity! Otherwise, you're on your own!" God said, "Do what I
say, or YOU'RE DEAD!!!!" Very Stalinist. Every heard of Sodom and
Gomorrah?
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| User: "Topaz" |
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03 Dec 2007 06:52:46 PM |
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:00:03 GMT, cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote:
of humanity. If you want to be mythic about it, the only place where
that happened was the Garden of Eden, where Adam and Eve did things that
spoiled it for everyone else who followed.
Probably evolution really happened. But at what point can we first
call a man a man.
We could call this man Adam. What about the point where a being first
has the knowledge of good and evil? Animals can be punished and taught
good from evil, but they don't figure it out on their own. Adam ate
from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Now what can be so
bad about having the knowledge of good and evil? Nothing, except that
it makes Adam like the Gods, which is exactly what Genesis says.
Before that they were borderline human but still animals. Now they
started to wear clothes. Genesis 3:6 says "And the eyes of them both
were opened, and they knew that they were naked."
And now people had to work. Before that they just climbed trees for
the bananas and so forth. They didn't really work. Genesis 3:19 says
"In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread."
Genesis 3:8 says "And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in
the garden." God was walking in the garden and God was a physical
person. The oldest version of the Bible is the Septuagint. (It's 3:
9-11 in that version) This is what it says: "And they heard the voice
of the Lord God walking in the garden in the afternoon; and both Adam
and his wife hid themselves from the face of the Lord God in the midst
of the trees of the garden. And the Lord God called Adam and said to
him, Adam where art thou? And he said to him, I heard thou voice as
thou walkest in the garden, and I feared because I was naked and I hid
myself."
Clearly God was walking the garden and God was a person.
Verse 23 (3:22 in the King James) says "And God said, Behold, Adam
has become as one of us." So now God is in the plural "us". So there
was not just one, but people nearby who Adam called Gods.
Who were these Gods? Probably a group of humanoids that had evolved
before Adam. The apes today probably consider humans to be gods. Are
we not gods compared to apes?
Maybe Judeo Christians will answer saying when God said "us" he meant
the trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. But there is no
hint of this in Genesis. Certainly they are stretching things a long
way rather than just reading what it says. And if they say it is
literally true then there is no "devil" in the story but a literal
serpent. This serpent walked around like a dragon but lost it's legs
in Genesis 3:14
"And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this,
thou are cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field;
upon thy belly shalt thou go."
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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| User: "cactus" |
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03 Dec 2007 07:12:41 PM |
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Topaz wrote:
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:00:03 GMT, cactus <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote:
of humanity. If you want to be mythic about it, the only place where
that happened was the Garden of Eden, where Adam and Eve did things that
spoiled it for everyone else who followed.
Probably evolution really happened. But at what point can we first
call a man a man.
We could call this man Adam. What about the point where a being first
has the knowledge of good and evil? Animals can be punished and taught
good from evil, but they don't figure it out on their own. Adam ate
from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Now what can be so
bad about having the knowledge of good and evil? Nothing, except that
it makes Adam like the Gods, which is exactly what Genesis says.
Before that they were borderline human but still animals. Now they
started to wear clothes. Genesis 3:6 says "And the eyes of them both
were opened, and they knew that they were naked."
And now people had to work. Before that they just climbed trees for
the bananas and so forth. They didn't really work. Genesis 3:19 says
"In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread."
Genesis 3:8 says "And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in
the garden." God was walking in the garden and God was a physical
person. The oldest version of the Bible is the Septuagint. (It's 3:
9-11 in that version) This is what it says: "And they heard the voice
of the Lord God walking in the garden in the afternoon; and both Adam
and his wife hid themselves from the face of the Lord God in the midst
of the trees of the garden. And the Lord God called Adam and said to
him, Adam where art thou? And he said to him, I heard thou voice as
thou walkest in the garden, and I feared because I was naked and I hid
myself."
Clearly God was walking the garden and God was a person.
Verse 23 (3:22 in the King James) says "And God said, Behold, Adam
has become as one of us." So now God is in the plural "us". So there
was not just one, but people nearby who Adam called Gods.
Who were these Gods? Probably a group of humanoids that had evolved
before Adam. The apes today probably consider humans to be gods. Are
we not gods compared to apes?
Maybe Judeo Christians will answer saying when God said "us" he meant
the trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. But there is no
hint of this in Genesis. Certainly they are stretching things a long
way rather than just reading what it says. And if they say it is
literally true then there is no "devil" in the story but a literal
serpent. This serpent walked around like a dragon but lost it's legs
in Genesis 3:14
"And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this,
thou are cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field;
upon thy belly shalt thou go."
And your point is?
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| User: "Jerry Kraus" |
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04 Dec 2007 10:51:38 AM |
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On Dec 3, 7:12 pm, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
Topaz wrote:
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:00:03 GMT, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
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I could be wrong about this, but I think Topaz is a bit on the anti-
semitic side.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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03 Dec 2007 09:00:30 AM |
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:36:50 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Bum A. Long" <bumalong@aol.com> wrote in message
news:nn95l31fglaqb5e4r7nve30bhl01cmgi08@4ax.com...
Stalin was a warm, cuddly Uncle Joe Russian Orthodox Priest? Hitlerwas
a charming, well-mannered Catholic altar boy? Mao was a kindly, wise
Buddhist monk? You need treatment.
You don't actually think all those Nazi soldiers were atheists, do you?
Perhaps you could explain why they had "God is with us" on their uniform
belt buckles.
It takes a pig-ignorant, stupid bigot to imagine that atheism can be a
motivation for anything.
It's as much of a non-event as not watching baseball is.
At most it means that atheists aren't going to give the religious the
unjustified free ride they imagine they deserve.
I have a neighbour who doesn't mow his lawn on Sunday because his
religion tells him to do something else.
I simply do it when it is convenient for me. Being atheist doesn't
come into it no matter how many Christians might imagine I do it on
Sunday "because I am atheist".
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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03 Dec 2007 11:27:05 AM |
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"Christopher A.Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:9j58l3dja8p0bb5h43peni4gop94qp4d8n@4ax.com...
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:36:50 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Bum A. Long" <bumalong@aol.com> wrote in message
news:nn95l31fglaqb5e4r7nve30bhl01cmgi08@4ax.com...
Stalin was a warm, cuddly Uncle Joe Russian Orthodox Priest? Hitlerwas
a charming, well-mannered Catholic altar boy? Mao was a kindly, wise
Buddhist monk? You need treatment.
You don't actually think all those Nazi soldiers were atheists, do you?
Perhaps you could explain why they had "God is with us" on their uniform
belt buckles.
It takes a pig-ignorant, stupid bigot to imagine that atheism can be a
motivation for anything.
It's as much of a non-event as not watching baseball is.
At most it means that atheists aren't going to give the religious the
unjustified free ride they imagine they deserve.
I have a neighbour who doesn't mow his lawn on Sunday because his
religion tells him to do something else.
I simply do it when it is convenient for me. Being atheist doesn't
come into it no matter how many Christians might imagine I do it on
Sunday "because I am atheist".
Oh my goodness, I raked the leaves on Sunday! Are you telling me I shouldn't
have? Whoopsie! :)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: The Nazi Pope decries Atheism!!! |
03 Dec 2007 12:11:10 PM |
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:27:05 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Christopher A.Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:9j58l3dja8p0bb5h43peni4gop94qp4d8n@4ax.com...
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:36:50 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Bum A. Long" <bumalong@aol.com> wrote in message
news:nn95l31fglaqb5e4r7nve30bhl01cmgi08@4ax.com...
Stalin was a warm, cuddly Uncle Joe Russian Orthodox Priest? Hitlerwas
a charming, well-mannered Catholic altar boy? Mao was a kindly, wise
Buddhist monk? You need treatment.
You don't actually think all those Nazi soldiers were atheists, do you?
Perhaps you could explain why they had "God is with us" on their uniform
belt buckles.
It takes a pig-ignorant, stupid bigot to imagine that atheism can be a
motivation for anything.
It's as much of a non-event as not watching baseball is.
At most it means that atheists aren't going to give the religious the
unjustified free ride they imagine they deserve.
I have a neighbour who doesn't mow his lawn on Sunday because his
religion tells him to do something else.
I simply do it when it is convenient for me. Being atheist doesn't
come into it no matter how many Christians might imagine I do it on
Sunday "because I am atheist".
Oh my goodness, I raked the leaves on Sunday! Are you telling me I shouldn't
have? Whoopsie! :)
I took a whoopsie on Sunday. Does that count?
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: The Nazi Pope decries Atheism!!! |
03 Dec 2007 12:18:00 PM |
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"Christopher A.Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:6kh8l3539rfu4fc5kj66jmgfbl73eia2ss@4ax.com...
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:27:05 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Christopher A.Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:9j58l3dja8p0bb5h43peni4gop94qp4d8n@4ax.com...
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:36:50 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Bum A. Long" <bumalong@aol.com> wrote in message
news:nn95l31fglaqb5e4r7nve30bhl01cmgi08@4ax.com...
Stalin was a warm, cuddly Uncle Joe Russian Orthodox Priest? Hitlerwas
a charming, well-mannered Catholic altar boy? Mao was a kindly, wise
Buddhist monk? You need treatment.
You don't actually think all those Nazi soldiers were atheists, do you?
Perhaps you could explain why they had "God is with us" on their uniform
belt buckles.
It takes a pig-ignorant, stupid bigot to imagine that atheism can be a
motivation for anything.
It's as much of a non-event as not watching baseball is.
At most it means that atheists aren't going to give the religious the
unjustified free ride they imagine they deserve.
I have a neighbour who doesn't mow his lawn on Sunday because his
religion tells him to do something else.
I simply do it when it is convenient for me. Being atheist doesn't
come into it no matter how many Christians might imagine I do it on
Sunday "because I am atheist".
Oh my goodness, I raked the leaves on Sunday! Are you telling me I
shouldn't
have? Whoopsie! :)
I took a whoopsie on Sunday. Does that count?
Probably ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Topaz" |
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02 Dec 2007 02:10:55 PM |
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"He was born into humble circumstances, the son of an obscure civil
servant in a remote corner of a crumbling empire, yet his name
resounds throughout the world to this day.
He was rejected by the universities of his time for formal enrollment
in art and in architecture, and yet he erected mighty buildings and
monuments, and today a simple postcard that he drew in ink or charcoal
fetches staggering sums at auction.
He fought as a front line soldier through all four years of the
greatest war in history up to that time, never rising above the rank
of corporal, but he won both of his country's highest decorations for
bravery under fire and rose to command the mightiest armies on earth.
Almost unique in the history of his century, he was not a lawyer or an
aristocrat or a man of inherited wealth and privilege, but a man who
once earned his daily bread with the labor of his hands, and yet he
conquered politics and rose to the leadership of the most brilliant
and creative nation on earth. So that his people might travel across
the land he loved quickly and cheaply, he created a simple and sturdy
automobile still in use today, and a network of highways that still
spans Germany. His game and forestry laws are still in force, and are
praised by ecologists as a model of environmental protection. His
economic program received the sincerest form of flattery from the
loathsome Roosevelt, who stole it and copied it into the context of
the American Depression as his own.
Every man who ever met him personally, even those who became his
bitterest enemies, spoke of him forever afterwards with awe and
admiration. His courtesy and his gallantry toward women were
legendary. With his power and his prestige he could have had any woman
he wanted, but the woman he chose as his life's partner, and who
eventually died by his side, was a simple and humble daughter of the
people.
He did not drink. He did not smoke. He was a lifelong lover of animals
and children and was happiest in the company of toddlers rather than
statesmen and soldiers, and no one ever overheard him use a profane
word or tell a smutty joke. He lifted his people up from the mud of
defeat and despair and alien domination, and he died trying to do the
same for all of us.
To this day, his memory is kept green by the Aryan peoples of Germany
and the world, even though it means prison, and in some countries
death, to honor him or his legacy within the sight or hearing of the
tyrant. He has been slandered, vilified, lied about, cursed,
distorted, and damned every day since his death by the most powerful
and evil tyranny mankind has ever known, and yet his name and his
Symbol cannot be suppressed by force or by propaganda. As we begin
this new Millennium, his book is read and his name is on more lips
than ever before and his image and his strength fills the hearts of a
whole new generation of young Aryan men and women."
"When your mother has grown older,
When her dear, faithful eyes
no longer see life as they once did,
When her feet, grown tired,
No longer want to carry her as she walks -
Then lend her your arm in support,
Escort her with happy pleasure.
The hour will come when, weeping, you
Must accompany her on her final walk.
And if she asks you something,
Then give her an answer.
And if she asks again, then speak!
And if she asks yet again, respond to her,
Not impatiently, but with gentle calm.
And if she cannot understand you properly
Explain all to her happily.
The hour will come, the bitter hour,
When her mouth asks for nothing more."
Those lines were written by Adolf Hitler, in 1923."
In the Thicket of the Forest at Artois
"It was in the thicket of the Artois Wood.
Deep in the trees, on blood-soaked ground,
Lay stretched a wounded German warrior,
And his cries rang out in the night.
In vain ... no echo answered his plea ...
Will he bleed to death like a beast,
That shot in the gut dies alone?
Then suddenly ...
Heavy steps approach from the right
He hears how they stamp on the forest floor ...
And new hope springs from his soul.
And now from the left ...
And now from both sides ...
Two men approach his miserable bed
A German it is, and a Frenchman.
And each watches the other with distrustful glance, And threatening
they aim their weapons.
The German warrior asks:
"What do you do here?"
"I was touched by the needy one's call for help."
"It's your enemy!"
"It is a man who suffers."
And both, wordless, lowered their weapons.
Then entwined their hands
And, with muscles tensed, carefully lifted
The wounded warrior, as if on a stretcher,
And carried him through the woods.
'Til they came to the German outposts.
"Now it is over. He will get good care."
And the Frenchman turns back toward the woods.
But the German grasps for his hand,
Looks, moved, into sorrow-dimmed eyes
And says to him with earnest foreboding:
"I know not what fate holds for us,
Which inscrutably rules in the stars.
Perhaps I shall fall, a victim of your bullet.
Maybe mine will fell you on the sand
For indifferent is the chance of battles.
Yet, however it may be and whatever may come:
We lived these sacred hours,
Where man found himself in man ...
And now, farewell! And God be with you!"
Adolf Hitler, 1916
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
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01 Dec 2007 12:22:37 PM |
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On Dec 1, 7:20 am, Bum A. Long <bumal...@aol.com> wrote:
Call me all the names you like. ATHEISTS MURDER MORE PEOPLE THAN
CHRISTIANS AND JEWS, AND I AM NOT BUDGING FROM THAT STATEMENT!!!
Fine. Then be prepared to get called a liar every time you post this
lie. We are under no obligation to recognize your delusion.
WHY OH WHY DO ATHEISTS FEAR GOD???? IF HE DOES NOT EXIST, THEN WHY DO
YOU FEAR HIM????
It's not your god we're worried about, sunshine.
Some of his followers are not, shall we say, the most stable people
around.
PDW
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01 Dec 2007 12:55:46 PM |
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On Dec 1, 10:22 am, "Syd M." <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Dec 1, 7:20 am, Bum A. Long <bumal...@aol.com> wrote:
Call me all the names you like. ATHEISTS MURDER MORE PEOPLE THAN
CHRISTIANS AND JEWS, AND I AM NOT BUDGING FROM THAT STATEMENT!!!
Fine. Then be prepared to get called a liar every time you post this
lie. We are under no obligation to recognize your delusion.
WHY OH WHY DO ATHEISTS FEAR GOD???? IF HE DOES NOT EXIST, THEN WHY DO
YOU FEAR HIM????
It's not your god we're worried about, sunshine.
Some of his followers are not, shall we say, the most stable people
around.
PDW
Sure sure..
Like the famous atheists Stalin, Mao-tse-Tung, and Pol-Pot were the
paragons of stability?
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01 Dec 2007 01:03:43 PM |
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In
news:70ae17d1-6125-44c6-9d63-66aedc8f2886@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com
lorad474@cs.com wrote:
Like the famous atheists Stalin, Mao-tse-Tung, and Pol-Pot were the
paragons of stability?
You seem to have missed the point that when those folks acted, they
weren't acting in the name of "atheism", but in the name of their own
perverted ideology.
Further, if they claimed that their movements were atheist in nature, it
was merely because they rightly viewed organized religions as their
competition.
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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
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01 Dec 2007 03:57:04 PM |
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On Dec 1, 11:03 am, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
Innews:70ae17d1-6125-44c6-9d63-66aedc8f2886@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com
lorad...@cs.com wrote:
Like the famous atheists Stalin, Mao-tse-Tung, and Pol-Pot were the
paragons of stability?
You seem to have missed the point that when those folks acted, they
weren't acting in the name of "atheism", but in the name of their own
perverted ideology.
Of course.. their political ideology which included atheism.
Just as yours seems to.
Further, if they claimed that their movements were atheist in nature, it
was merely because they rightly viewed organized religions as their
competition.
Exactly.
Just as you recognize organized religion as your competion.
The salient question is; What moral basis do you wish to replace
organized religion with?
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| User: "Jerry Kraus" |
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01 Dec 2007 04:04:23 PM |
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On Dec 1, 3:57 pm, wrote:
On Dec 1, 11:03 am, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
Further, if they claimed that their movements were atheist in nature, it
was merely because they rightly viewed organized religions as their
competition.
Exactly.
Just as you recognize organized religion as your competion.
The salient question is; What moral basis do you wish to replace
organized religion with?
Well, secular humanism perhaps. Law, philosophy, science.
Utilitarianism has its points -- the greatest happiness for the
greatest number. The problem with much of organized religion is that
it is highly irrational -- mass delusion, mass hysteria. That's why
it leads to events like the Nazi holocaust of Jews, the Turkish
holocaust of Armenian Christians etc. At least people like Stalin and
Mao had functional purposes to their mass killings -- control for the
benefit of the majority. Religious nuts kill for abstract reasons
that have nothing to do with helping anyone -- they're looking to the
"next life"!!
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| User: "Bert Hyman" |
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01 Dec 2007 04:10:00 PM |
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In news:244425f6-ef5e-4c64-b2fa-bbc8580dbdb5@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1999@yahoo.com> wrote:
Utilitarianism has its points -- the greatest happiness for the
greatest number.
Which means that "the greatest number" gets to decide what makes it
happy at any instant, and to hell with everybody else.
In practice, a small group or an individual who claim to represent
"the greatest number" makes the decisions.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
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| User: "Jerry Kraus" |
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01 Dec 2007 04:38:07 PM |
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On Dec 1, 4:10 pm, Bert Hyman <> wrote:
Innews:244425f6-ef5e-4c64-b2fa-bbc8580dbdb5@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Utilitarianism has its points -- the greatest happiness for the
greatest number.
Which means that "the greatest number" gets to decide what makes it
happy at any instant, and to hell with everybody else.
In practice, a small group or an individual who claim to represent
"the greatest number" makes the decisions.
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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN
Not if you use referenda to decide everything, direct democracy! But,
Bert, you call that "mob rule"! I'm still not really too clear on
what system of government, if any, you favor. You say, a
"consitutional republic" at times. But that leads to the "small group
claiming the represent 'the greatest number' " problem you cite above.
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| User: "Bert Hyman" |
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01 Dec 2007 04:59:11 PM |
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In
news:dec13c74-71da-497c-8500-fafea7b9ff32@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1999@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm still not really too clear on what system of government, if any,
you favor. You say, a "consitutional republic" at times. But that
leads to the "small group claiming the represent 'the greatest number'
" problem you cite above.
You've left out the constitution part of "constitutional republic", which
puts constraints on what the government can do.
We have a pretty good one, although a few ambiguities and what were
possibly intentional misinterpretations have led to some of our current
problems.
These things have a way of correcting themselves over the long run.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
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