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The party of hypocrites |
The party of hypocrites
By Joseph Hughes
The Republican Party, during an election season, is typically in high
cotton. The run-up to each all-important vote allows them to do what
they do best - attack. Not only attack, but also attack with the brand
of venom and dishonesty usually associated with the matron and patron
saints of the party, Ann Coulter and Karl Rove. As the big day
approaches, we learn that our favorite Democratic candidates are
terrorist-appeasing, tax-raising, gay-loving flip-floppers who have no
moral fiber or are, in the words of Coulter, godless. Republicans hurl
these false smears, hoping something sticks with voters. But what
Republicans weren't counting on this fall, however, was the terrible,
terrible taste of their own medicine. While no outcomes are certain,
the wheels are appearing to be falling off the vaunted Republican
machine. Everywhere you look, a new scandal is weighing down the
right's chances of holding both houses of Congress. From racism to
corruption to covering for a child predator, the so-called "party of
values" more accurately looks to America like the party of hypocrites.
And if the Republicans finally collapse under the weight of their own
hypocrisy, come November, the party may be over.
Hypocrisy, as I've said before, is a matter of degree. Take the Terri
Schiavo saga, for example. At every turn, the party of state's rights
couldn't even let Schiavo's home state decide what was right and
wrong. What's worse, the same president who barely lifted a finger
when the terrible tsunami struck across the globe moved heaven and
earth to interfere with Schiavo's final wishes. But something that got
lost in the shuffle of an entire nationwide political apparatus
injecting itself into one family's private affairs was the spectacular
hypocrisy surrounding Tom DeLay, one of the biggest advocates for
needlessly keeping Schiavo alive. DeLay, if you'll recall, was faced
with a similar decision nearly 20 years ago. In that case, with his
own father ailing, DeLay agreed to end his father's life. I wonder
what those protesting outside of Schiavo's hospice would have thought
of DeLay's behavior? Of his moral scolding despite his ties to forced
prostitution and forced abortion in the Northern Mariana Islands. Of
the fact that, about what was occurring there, DeLay said, "You
represent everything that is good about what we are trying to do in
America."
Other hypocrisies strike the Republican base close to home, too. Take,
for instance, the party of "compassionate conservatives" saying things
that they would spend a lifetime decrying if they came from the mouths
of our enemies. You know, like Pat Robertson praying for vacancies to
open on the Supreme Court. Or Michael Reagan, son of the former
president, saying, "Howard Dean should be arrested and hung for
treason or put in a hole until the end of the Iraq war!" Or Coulter
echoing Robertson and saying, "We need somebody to put rat poisoning
in Justice Stevens' creme brulee. That's just a joke, for you in the
media." In other words, things that Fox News would spend an eternity
blasting if they came from, say, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or Hugo Chavez.
When words just aren't enough, of course, some faith-based individuals
took matters into their own hands, physically assaulting a man whose
crime was disagreeing with them ideologically. While I claim no faith,
I suspect that is something Jesus wouldn't do. Republican Jesus,
maybe.
When they're not telling you how pious they are, Republicans love to
remind you that theirs is the party of national security. That theirs
is the party of protecting our freedom. That theirs is the party of
supporting the troops. Reality, however, is a cruel judge of the
Republicans' hubris. First, the party that purports to be the party of
national security has repeatedly put politics above keeping America
safe. Rove, himself a walking national security threat is, at last
check, both a Republican and remains employed by the Bush White House,
the same White House responsible for outing an undercover CIA
operative solely to attack one of its opponents. That agent's job?
Keeping track of the flow of WMD technology to and from Iran. Second,
the party that purports to be the party of protecting our freedom has
repeatedly sacrificed our civil liberties in the name of our safety.
But tell me, exactly how much safer are we? Were we safer after the
Madrid bombings? The London bombings? In the midst of a war that
experts say has only made the world a more dangerous place? Third, the
party that purports to support the troops has repeatedly proven that
they do support the troops - with a knife in the back. From feeding
them spoiled food to caring more for public relations than treating
the signature wound of the war to not providing our men and women with
the proper equipment, nothing is as it seems for the Republican Party.
In fact, I can safely say this: Hypocrisy accomplished.
But the latest - and worst - example of the hypocrisy of the
Republican moralists is Foleygate. What started as a case of a
Republican congressman, Mark Foley, using his position of power to
take advantage of minors soon became much, much more. Foley,
supposedly an advocate for missing and exploited children, was instead
a child predator, engaging in inappropriate online conversations with
underage pages (later having sex with a former page), interrupting an
important vote to engage in cybersex and showing up drunk at the
pages' Washington dorm, only to be turned away. And what did the
Republican leadership do, knowing about Foley's behavior for quite
some time? They coddled and covered up for a child predator, appearing
more concerned about protecting their majority than protecting
underage children. What's worse, knowing what they knew and when they
knew it, the leader of the National Republican Congressional
Committee, Tom Reynolds, urged a hesitant Foley to seek re-election.
And what, when on the defensive, did the Republicans do? While
continuing to play Russian roulette with their electoral chances this
fall, they turned the Foley scandal into yet another opportunity to
appeal to their anti-gay base.
But that effort, like so many others before, smacks of hypocrisy. The
Republican Party represents itself as the party that wants to keep
gays from marrying, adopting and, when taken to the extreme by the
Robertsons of the world, even existing, yet they knowingly cover for a
child predator, going so far as to urge him to stay in office. What's
more, the Republican Party represents itself as the party of the big
tent, yet one of its top 2008 presidential hopefuls, George Allen, has
a history of racist behavior. On top of that, the Republican party
represents itself as the party of small government and responsible
spending, yet they've bloated the bureaucracy to unprecedented
proportions and have sunk billions into an ill-conceived foreign
policy, with disastrous results. And for once, it appears as though
the two-faced nature of the Republican Party is catching up to them.
To me, nothing speaks to the perils facing the Republican Party than
the fact that the party known for its vicious election-season attack
ads is forced to run two ads in which two GOP congressional
incumbents, Reynolds and Don Sherwood, apologize to voters for letting
them down. This November, however, sorry won't be good enough.
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11 Oct 2006 05:48:20 AM |
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"ksmith" <ksmith@adws.tv> wrote in message
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The party of hypocrites
By Joseph Hughes
Yes, as seen by the democrats attack on Foley, they have proved themselves
to be the hypocrites we know them to be.
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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11 Oct 2006 09:43:28 AM |
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"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"ksmith" <ksmith@adws.tv> wrote in message
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The party of hypocrites
By Joseph Hughes
Yes, as seen by the democrats attack on Foley, they have proved themselves
to be the hypocrites we know them to be.
we understand your'rere upset when republicscums are shown trying to suckoff
teenage *****.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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11 Oct 2006 05:42:30 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:43:28 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"ksmith" <ksmith@adws.tv> wrote in message
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The party of hypocrites
By Joseph Hughes
Yes, as seen by the democrats attack on Foley, they have proved themselves
to be the hypocrites we know them to be.
we understand your'rere upset when republicscums are shown trying to suckoff
teenage *****.
Perhaps in trying to shift the blame for Foley's downfall onto the
Democrats, Mr. Hughes (and 'ksmith' by extension..) are trying to say
that Foley's behavior would have been acceptable as long as nobody
found out. <G>
But then, "anything you can get away with is OK" is pretty much the
rightard mantra, isn't it?
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| User: "John Baker" |
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11 Oct 2006 09:56:31 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:42:30 -0400, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net>
wrote:
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:43:28 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
<killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"ksmith" <ksmith@adws.tv> wrote in message
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The party of hypocrites
By Joseph Hughes
Yes, as seen by the democrats attack on Foley, they have proved themselves
to be the hypocrites we know them to be.
we understand your'rere upset when republicscums are shown trying to suckoff
teenage *****.
Perhaps in trying to shift the blame for Foley's downfall onto the
Democrats, Mr. Hughes (and 'ksmith' by extension..) are trying to say
that Foley's behavior would have been acceptable as long as nobody
found out. <G>
But then, "anything you can get away with is OK" is pretty much the
rightard mantra, isn't it?
Oops. Should have read the whole article. Well, since I'm not a
Republican any more, I don't have a problem with admitting my
mistakes. <G>
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| User: "Geoff" |
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11 Oct 2006 07:51:23 AM |
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"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"ksmith" <ksmith@adws.tv> wrote in message
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The party of hypocrites
By Joseph Hughes
Yes, as seen by the democrats attack on Foley, they have proved themselves
to be the hypocrites we know them to be.
Seems to me that was all self-inflicted.
Whatever gets you through the night, man.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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11 Oct 2006 10:07:06 PM |
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Dana wrote:
Yes, as seen by the democrats attack on Foley,
they have proved themselves to be the hypocrites
we know them to be.
Yeah, those darn Democrats should have protected
Foley the way the Republicans did, honoring him
in partisan ceremonies, the way Republicans did, and
most of all keeping his secret... the way the Republicans
did for years on end.
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| User: "duke" |
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11 Oct 2006 10:40:37 PM |
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On 11 Oct 2006 15:07:06 -0700, "JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, those darn Democrats should have protected
Foley the way the Republicans did, honoring him
in partisan ceremonies, the way Republicans did, and
most of all keeping his secret... the way the Republicans
did for years on end.
Youi mean the way the 'rats protected studds in 1983, or kennedy in the 60's and
his nephew in 2005.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "TDL" |
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11 Oct 2006 11:18:35 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On 11 Oct 2006 15:07:06 -0700, "JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, those darn Democrats should have protected
Foley the way the Republicans did, honoring him
in partisan ceremonies, the way Republicans did, and
most of all keeping his secret... the way the Republicans
did for years on end.
Youi mean the way the 'rats protected studds in 1983, or kennedy in the
60's and
his nephew in 2005.
duke, American-American
Get real, dimwit, the GOP is the party that professes to be the champion of
family values, it opposes Gay Marriage between consenting adults, it tried
to impeach Clinton for getting a ***** from a member of the opposite
sex....
....and NOW, it is discovered that this self-righteous family value party has
been covering up one of it's own gays who has been soliciting sex from
underage interns for years --- and the really cool irony, the guy was
responsible for some of the very laws which he will likely be convicted of
violating.
If that is not hypocrisy, man, send me your dictionary.
--
Terrell D Lewis
http://www.songbookz.com
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| User: "duke" |
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12 Oct 2006 06:21:04 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:18:35 GMT, "TDL" <NOSPAM@NOWAY.net> wrote:
Youi mean the way the 'rats protected studds in 1983, or kennedy in the
60's and
his nephew in 2005.
Get real, dimwit, the GOP is the party that professes to be the champion of
family values, it opposes Gay Marriage between consenting adults, it tried
to impeach Clinton for getting a ***** from a member of the opposite
sex....
And foley left the organization he disgraced.
Not so the kennedy's and studds.
...and NOW, it is discovered that this self-righteous family value party has
been covering up one of it's own gays who has been soliciting sex from
underage interns for years --- and the really cool irony, the guy was
responsible for some of the very laws which he will likely be convicted of
violating.
If that is not hypocrisy, man, send me your dictionary.
He is gone. Get the message. No so the kennedy's or the studds.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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11 Oct 2006 11:15:30 PM |
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In article <0lsqi2htab4d32dpsn18kv83u1hljv456l@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On 11 Oct 2006 15:07:06 -0700, "JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, those darn Democrats should have protected
Foley the way the Republicans did, honoring him
in partisan ceremonies, the way Republicans did, and
most of all keeping his secret... the way the Republicans
did for years on end.
Youi mean the way the 'rats protected studds in 1983,
True, if your own private meaning of "protected" is "participated
in a 420-3 vote to censure him".
-- cary
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| User: "duke" |
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12 Oct 2006 06:19:30 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:15:30 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Youi mean the way the 'rats protected studds in 1983,
True, if your own private meaning of "protected" is "participated
in a 420-3 vote to censure him".
An "honorable" man leaves that which he disgraced.
A dishonorable man (studds, kennedy, kennedy - all 'rats) tells his peers to
shove it where the sun don't shine and hangs around anyway.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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12 Oct 2006 06:34:21 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:15:30 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Youi mean the way the 'rats protected studds in 1983,
True, if your own private meaning of "protected" is "participated
in a 420-3 vote to censure him".
An "honorable" man leaves that which he disgraced.
Your claim was that that the democrats "protected studds in 1983".
I have demonstrated that precisely the opposite was the case.
Change the subject much?
Don't worry, everyone here understands why you have to.
-- cary
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| User: "duke" |
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13 Oct 2006 02:23:12 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:34:21 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Youi mean the way the 'rats protected studds in 1983,
True, if your own private meaning of "protected" is "participated
in a 420-3 vote to censure him".
An "honorable" man leaves that which he disgraced.
Your claim was that that the democrats "protected studds in 1983".
I have demonstrated that precisely the opposite was the case.
Shirley you're referring to something other than to call him a bad name and slap
him on the rest? The 'rats stood by him for another 13 years.
Studds had homo sex with a page. Foley had dirty talk with a page.
Compared to Studds, Foley is an honorable man. Compared to the 'rats, the
Republicans are an honorable group.
Change the subject much?
gotcha.
Don't worry, everyone here understands why you have to.
-- cary
The truth be known above.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "hopeful" |
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13 Oct 2006 02:47:20 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:34:21 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Youi mean the way the 'rats protected studds in 1983,
True, if your own private meaning of "protected" is "participated
in a 420-3 vote to censure him".
An "honorable" man leaves that which he disgraced.
Your claim was that that the democrats "protected studds in 1983".
I have demonstrated that precisely the opposite was the case.
Shirley you're referring to something other than to call him a bad name
and slap
him on the rest? The 'rats stood by him for another 13 years.
While you are criticizing folks what do you think of the citizens of Stubbs'
district in Massachusetts? Those amoral folks reelected him. Says a lot
about them. They are the ones that should be blamed.
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| User: "" |
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12 Oct 2006 02:35:28 AM |
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duke wrote:
"JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, those darn Democrats should have protected
Foley the way the Republicans did, honoring him
in partisan ceremonies, the way Republicans did, and
most of all keeping his secret... the way the Republicans
did for years on end.
Youi mean the way the 'rats protected studds in 1983,
The Democrats censored Studds, the Republicans kept
Foley's secret... for years and years.
That one whopping HUGE difference.
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| User: "duke" |
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12 Oct 2006 06:21:58 PM |
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On 11 Oct 2006 19:35:28 -0700, wrote:
Youi mean the way the 'rats protected studds in 1983,
The Democrats censored Studds, the Republicans kept
Foley's secret... for years and years.
That one whopping HUGE difference.
Yeah, it was the 'rats that knew for years and years what studds was about, and
definitely about killer kennedy and his drunken nephew.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "" |
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13 Oct 2006 06:46:09 AM |
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duke wrote:
Yeah, it was the 'rats that knew for years and years
what studds was about,
Well we all know that the Republican leadership knew
about Foley since at least 1999, and kept his secret.
They didn't punish him the way the Democrats punished
Studds.
Why do you support that kind of behavior? Why do you
constantly endorse it?
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| User: "hopeful" |
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13 Oct 2006 02:10:49 PM |
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<jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well we all know that the Republican leadership knew
about Foley since at least 1999, and kept his secret.
They didn't punish him the way the Democrats punished
Studds.
Well one thing in the Democrats favor is that they never claimed to be the
party of high morals. The Republicans did and they have politicked at lot
on "family values". These people are just as corrupt, as immoral and as
greedy as the worst Democrat.
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| User: "Vernon athere@athere" |
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13 Oct 2006 02:45:22 PM |
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"hopeful" <hopetruthpeace@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well we all know that the Republican leadership knew
about Foley since at least 1999, and kept his secret.
They didn't punish him the way the Democrats punished
Studds.
Well one thing in the Democrats favor is that they never claimed to be the
party of high morals. The Republicans did and they have politicked at lot
on "family values". These people are just as corrupt, as immoral and as
greedy as the worst Democrat.
Maybe, but not "as the worst Democrat"
Nobody on either party approaches Ted Kennedy and a couple of his cohorts.
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14 Oct 2006 03:02:25 AM |
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Vernon wrote:
Nobody on either party approaches Ted Kennedy
and a couple of his cohorts.
You need to do a google search on "laura bush" and
"boyfriend".
Then you can read all about that guy she snuffed.
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11 Oct 2006 06:09:55 PM |
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:48:20 -0800, Dana wrote:
"ksmith" <ksmith@adws.tv> wrote in message
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The party of hypocrites
By Joseph Hughes
Yes, as seen by the democrats attack on Foley, they have proved themselves
to be the hypocrites we know them to be.
But for the party of "family values" to cover up for a sexual predator,
that's okay huh?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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11 Oct 2006 07:58:28 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:09:55 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:48:20 -0800, Dana wrote:
"ksmith" <ksmith@adws.tv> wrote in message
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The party of hypocrites
By Joseph Hughes
Yes, as seen by the democrats attack on Foley, they have proved themselves
to be the hypocrites we know them to be.
But for the party of "family values" to cover up for a sexual predator,
that's okay huh?
They don't seem to grasp that - but then they're parroting what comes
down from Fox "News", Limbaugh, Coulter etc.
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11 Oct 2006 07:33:37 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:09:55 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:48:20 -0800, Dana wrote:
"ksmith" <ksmith@adws.tv> wrote in message
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The party of hypocrites
By Joseph Hughes
Yes, as seen by the democrats attack on Foley, they have proved
themselves to be the hypocrites we know them to be.
But for the party of "family values" to cover up for a sexual
predator, that's okay huh?
They don't seem to grasp that - but then they're parroting what comes
down from Fox "News", Limbaugh, Coulter etc.
It seems difficult for Democrats to understand the concept of *personal
responsibility* here. Yes, Foley's a sleazebag, that's *HIS* problem,
not the entire Republican party's problem.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Some days the impatience with Iraq just seems artificial — as though
the real argument is about something else entirely." - Dinocrat
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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11 Oct 2006 08:34:45 PM |
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On 11 Oct 2006 19:33:37 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
in message <Xns9859A7DBEB5EDfstone69@66.150.105.47>:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in
news:t4jqi2phh75er752id37249lckalq1qc34@4ax.com:
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:09:55 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:48:20 -0800, Dana wrote:
"ksmith" <ksmith@adws.tv> wrote in message
news:h8soi2lmv19gh779cv7hmaefum3003pe72@4ax.com...
The party of hypocrites
By Joseph Hughes
Yes, as seen by the democrats attack on Foley, they have proved
themselves to be the hypocrites we know them to be.
But for the party of "family values" to cover up for a sexual
predator, that's okay huh?
They don't seem to grasp that - but then they're parroting what comes
down from Fox "News", Limbaugh, Coulter etc.
It seems difficult for Democrats to understand the concept of *personal
responsibility* here. Yes, Foley's a sleazebag, that's *HIS* problem,
not the entire Republican party's problem.
It seems difficult for Fred to understand that covering up for a
sexual predator, as an increasingly large amount of Republicans sure
seem to have done, is in fact a problem.
And, yes, it is the entire party's problem now, Freddy.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: The party of hypocrites |
12 Oct 2006 01:54:52 AM |
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IAAH <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote in
news:ualqi2hc2s6v3lf1ehnh307i3jcoj8fvov@fe06.highwinds-media.phx:
On 11 Oct 2006 19:33:37 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
in message <Xns9859A7DBEB5EDfstone69@66.150.105.47>:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in
news:t4jqi2phh75er752id37249lckalq1qc34@4ax.com:
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:09:55 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:48:20 -0800, Dana wrote:
"ksmith" <ksmith@adws.tv> wrote in message
news:h8soi2lmv19gh779cv7hmaefum3003pe72@4ax.com...
The party of hypocrites
By Joseph Hughes
Yes, as seen by the democrats attack on Foley, they have proved
themselves to be the hypocrites we know them to be.
But for the party of "family values" to cover up for a sexual
predator, that's okay huh?
They don't seem to grasp that - but then they're parroting what
comes down from Fox "News", Limbaugh, Coulter etc.
It seems difficult for Democrats to understand the concept of
*personal responsibility* here. Yes, Foley's a sleazebag, that's *HIS*
problem, not the entire Republican party's problem.
It seems difficult for Fred to understand that covering up for a
sexual predator, as an increasingly large amount of Republicans sure
seem to have done, is in fact a problem.
There was no coverup. When Foley's indiscretion's became known, he
resigned immediately. As opposed to certain members of a certain other
political party who committed rather more egregious sex crimes with
minors.
And, yes, it is the entire party's problem now, Freddy.
And no, collective guilt is not the Repub's problem.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Some days the impatience with Iraq just seems artificial — as though
the real argument is about something else entirely." - Dinocrat
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "IAAH" |
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| Title: Re: The party of hypocrites |
12 Oct 2006 03:08:12 AM |
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On 12 Oct 2006 01:54:52 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
in message <Xns9859E881375BDfstone69@66.150.105.47>:
IAAH <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote in
news:ualqi2hc2s6v3lf1ehnh307i3jcoj8fvov@fe06.highwinds-media.phx:
On 11 Oct 2006 19:33:37 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
in message <Xns9859A7DBEB5EDfstone69@66.150.105.47>:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in
news:t4jqi2phh75er752id37249lckalq1qc34@4ax.com:
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:09:55 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:48:20 -0800, Dana wrote:
"ksmith" <ksmith@adws.tv> wrote in message
news:h8soi2lmv19gh779cv7hmaefum3003pe72@4ax.com...
The party of hypocrites
By Joseph Hughes
Yes, as seen by the democrats attack on Foley, they have proved
themselves to be the hypocrites we know them to be.
But for the party of "family values" to cover up for a sexual
predator, that's okay huh?
They don't seem to grasp that - but then they're parroting what
comes down from Fox "News", Limbaugh, Coulter etc.
It seems difficult for Democrats to understand the concept of
*personal responsibility* here. Yes, Foley's a sleazebag, that's *HIS*
problem, not the entire Republican party's problem.
It seems difficult for Fred to understand that covering up for a
sexual predator, as an increasingly large amount of Republicans sure
seem to have done, is in fact a problem.
There was no coverup.
Right, because knowing of these 'indiscretions' for 6 years and
mentioning them to nobody isn't covering anything up. Warning pages
but doing nothing else isn't a coverup, it's a fuckin' public service,
right?
When Foley's indiscretion's became known, he
resigned immediately. As opposed to certain members of a certain other
political party who committed rather more egregious sex crimes with
minors.
Yep, there's the tu quoque fallacy train, right on time.
And, yes, it is the entire party's problem now, Freddy.
And no, collective guilt is not the Repub's problem.
When you made it the Dems problem, you made it the Repubs problem,
Freddy. Take your self-serving hypocrisy and jam it up your cloaca
(I'd say *****, but reptiles don't have that opening).
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: The party of hypocrites |
12 Oct 2006 10:37:04 AM |
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IAAH <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote in
news:o7cri2teue5q866gc9g7a7rf0l88k7j2pf@fe06.highwinds-media.phx:
On 12 Oct 2006 01:54:52 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
in message <Xns9859E881375BDfstone69@66.150.105.47>:
IAAH <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote in
news:ualqi2hc2s6v3lf1ehnh307i3jcoj8fvov@fe06.highwinds-media.phx:
On 11 Oct 2006 19:33:37 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote in message <Xns9859A7DBEB5EDfstone69@66.150.105.47>:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in
news:t4jqi2phh75er752id37249lckalq1qc34@4ax.com:
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:09:55 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:48:20 -0800, Dana wrote:
"ksmith" <ksmith@adws.tv> wrote in message
news:h8soi2lmv19gh779cv7hmaefum3003pe72@4ax.com...
The party of hypocrites
By Joseph Hughes
Yes, as seen by the democrats attack on Foley, they have proved
themselves to be the hypocrites we know them to be.
But for the party of "family values" to cover up for a sexual
predator, that's okay huh?
They don't seem to grasp that - but then they're parroting what
comes down from Fox "News", Limbaugh, Coulter etc.
It seems difficult for Democrats to understand the concept of
*personal responsibility* here. Yes, Foley's a sleazebag, that's
*HIS* problem, not the entire Republican party's problem.
It seems difficult for Fred to understand that covering up for a
sexual predator, as an increasingly large amount of Republicans sure
seem to have done, is in fact a problem.
There was no coverup.
Right, because knowing of these 'indiscretions' for 6 years and
mentioning them to nobody isn't covering anything up. Warning pages
but doing nothing else isn't a coverup, it's a fuckin' public service,
right?
You don't have a case, "I'mAnAsshole".
When Foley's indiscretion's became known, he
resigned immediately. As opposed to certain members of a certain other
political party who committed rather more egregious sex crimes with
minors.
Yep, there's the tu quoque fallacy train, right on time.
And, yes, it is the entire party's problem now, Freddy.
And no, collective guilt is not the Repub's problem.
When you made it the Dems problem, you made it the Repubs problem,
Freddy. Take your self-serving hypocrisy and jam it up your cloaca
(I'd say *****, but reptiles don't have that opening).
The *Democrats* made it their problem when *they* made it an October
Surprise. Voters aren't as stupid as you are.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Some days the impatience with Iraq just seems artificial — as though
the real argument is about something else entirely." - Dinocrat
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "IAAH" |
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| Title: Re: The party of hypocrites |
12 Oct 2006 01:31:58 PM |
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On 12 Oct 2006 10:37:04 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
in message <Xns985A4CDFDDFCEfstone69@66.150.105.47>:
IAAH <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote in
news:o7cri2teue5q866gc9g7a7rf0l88k7j2pf@fe06.highwinds-media.phx:
On 12 Oct 2006 01:54:52 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
in message <Xns9859E881375BDfstone69@66.150.105.47>:
IAAH <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote in
news:ualqi2hc2s6v3lf1ehnh307i3jcoj8fvov@fe06.highwinds-media.phx:
On 11 Oct 2006 19:33:37 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote in message <Xns9859A7DBEB5EDfstone69@66.150.105.47>:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in
news:t4jqi2phh75er752id37249lckalq1qc34@4ax.com:
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:09:55 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:48:20 -0800, Dana wrote:
"ksmith" <ksmith@adws.tv> wrote in message
news:h8soi2lmv19gh779cv7hmaefum3003pe72@4ax.com...
The party of hypocrites
By Joseph Hughes
Yes, as seen by the democrats attack on Foley, they have proved
themselves to be the hypocrites we know them to be.
But for the party of "family values" to cover up for a sexual
predator, that's okay huh?
They don't seem to grasp that - but then they're parroting what
comes down from Fox "News", Limbaugh, Coulter etc.
It seems difficult for Democrats to understand the concept of
*personal responsibility* here. Yes, Foley's a sleazebag, that's
*HIS* problem, not the entire Republican party's problem.
It seems difficult for Fred to understand that covering up for a
sexual predator, as an increasingly large amount of Republicans sure
seem to have done, is in fact a problem.
There was no coverup.
Right, because knowing of these 'indiscretions' for 6 years and
mentioning them to nobody isn't covering anything up. Warning pages
but doing nothing else isn't a coverup, it's a fuckin' public service,
right?
You don't have a case, "I'mAnAsshole".
No answer from Freddy. As usual.
When Foley's indiscretion's became known, he
resigned immediately. As opposed to certain members of a certain other
political party who committed rather more egregious sex crimes with
minors.
Yep, there's the tu quoque fallacy train, right on time.
And, yes, it is the entire party's problem now, Freddy.
And no, collective guilt is not the Repub's problem.
When you made it the Dems problem, you made it the Repubs problem,
Freddy. Take your self-serving hypocrisy and jam it up your cloaca
(I'd say *****, but reptiles don't have that opening).
The *Democrats* made it their problem when *they* made it an October
Surprise. Voters aren't as stupid as you are.
More lies from Fred. When you can show how a Dem brought this out
(when it's already confirmed that it was a Republican recently - a Dem
tried to bring it to the press a year ago and they weren't interested)
come on back. But until then, your lies are boring and obvious.
But, to explain myself, since even the slightest subtlety is beyond
you - when you and your freeper buddies made Clinton's problem one for
the entire Democratic party, you made this a problem for the
Republicans. Tought *****, birds, home to roost, all that. Time to
accept that what the public thinks in this matter is the Repubs'
problem, and the Repubs' behaviour in this has been so idiotic that
they deserve every bad opinion the public holds.
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13 Oct 2006 10:46:10 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:31:58 -0400, IAAH <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
On 12 Oct 2006 10:37:04 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
in message <Xns985A4CDFDDFCEfstone69@66.150.105.47>:
IAAH <iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote in
news:o7cri2teue5q866gc9g7a7rf0l88k7j2pf@fe06.highwinds-media.phx:
[]
It seems difficult for Fred to understand that covering up for a
sexual predator, as an increasingly large amount of Republicans sure
seem to have done, is in fact a problem.
There was no coverup.
Right, because knowing of these 'indiscretions' for 6 years and
mentioning them to nobody isn't covering anything up. Warning pages
but doing nothing else isn't a coverup, it's a fuckin' public service,
right?
You don't have a case, "I'mAnAsshole".
No answer from Freddy. As usual.
When Foley's indiscretion's became known, he
resigned immediately. As opposed to certain members of a certain other
political party who committed rather more egregious sex crimes with
minors.
Yep, there's the tu quoque fallacy train, right on time.
And, yes, it is the entire party's problem now, Freddy.
And no, collective guilt is not the Repub's problem.
When you made it the Dems problem, you made it the Repubs problem,
Freddy. Take your self-serving hypocrisy and jam it up your cloaca
(I'd say *****, but reptiles don't have that opening).
The *Democrats* made it their problem when *they* made it an October
Surprise. Voters aren't as stupid as you are.
More lies from Fred. When you can show how a Dem brought this out
(when it's already confirmed that it was a Republican recently - a Dem
tried to bring it to the press a year ago and they weren't interested)
come on back. But until then, your lies are boring and obvious.
But, to explain myself, since even the slightest subtlety is beyond
you - when you and your freeper buddies made Clinton's problem one for
the entire Democratic party, you made this a problem for the
Republicans. Tought *****, birds, home to roost, all that. Time to
accept that what the public thinks in this matter is the Repubs'
problem, and the Repubs' behaviour in this has been so idiotic that
they deserve every bad opinion the public holds.
Not to mention the Rethugs wasted four years and over $50 million USD
over a blow-job while at least three of the 'pristine witch hunters'
were committing at least adultry. Not much was heard about that with
the bellowing and pointing with 'righteous fury' about a blow-job.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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13 Oct 2006 11:38:08 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:46:10 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
Not to mention the Rethugs wasted four years and over $50 million USD
over a blow-job while at least three of the 'pristine witch hunters'
were committing at least adultry. Not much was heard about that with
the bellowing and pointing with 'righteous fury' about a blow-job.
Just like nothing much is being heard about Foley, Hastert and the
committee, with N. Korea poised to do something mean and nasty. If
they can stretch that out for 3 weeks they've got it made.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"The United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion"
- Treaty of Tripoli, 1797, ratified by Congress
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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