Religions > Atheism > The Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University Of Minnesota
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"Sound of Trumpet" |
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20 Oct 2006 05:55:56 PM |
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The Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University Of Minnesota |
http://www.markshea.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_markshea_archive.html#116136311389565938
More Blasphemy Chic
A reader sends the following along:
A blasphemous play called "The Pope and the Witch" is scheduled to
stage at the University of Minnesota and I am asking you to protest
immediately because press reports say it stars a...
Drug-addict, paranoid Pope called John Paul II
The Pope figure is afflicted by "a crucifixion stroke," a mockery
of the Crucifixion of Our Lord Jesus Christ
The play's author, a radical communist, encourages students to think
that Catholic doctrine on abortion causes poverty and hunger
This is public sacrilege! Click here to protest now. Your signature
will make an impact.
You see, according to The New York Times: "The witch, in nun's habit,
turns up as an aide to the doctor summoned to treat the pope, and
before long the Holy Father is seized with a paralytic affliction that,
among other names, is known as 'a crucifixion stroke,' leaving him
with his arms outstretched."
The Yale Herald further states: "The blasphemy aspect of the
production adds another layer of prickly humor..."
To make matters worse, university president Robert H. Bruininks
attempts to justify the offensive production as an expression of
academic freedom.
Sorry. By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Please SIGN YOUR INSTANT E-PROTEST to the University of Minnesota's
president. Demand an apology. Demand that "The Pope and the Witch" be
cancelled.
How to be more effective: After you sign your e-protest, give his
office a call. Be polite and firm. Tell him how you feel. This play is
anti-Catholic bigotry, not academic freedom. It is a slap in the face
to anyone who believes in Christ and His Church. Ask him to have the
play cancelled immediately.
Please call today: 612-626-1616.
Do protests really work? Yes, they do. We stopped two blasphemies with
peaceful protest recently - The Da Vinci Code movie at Saint Francis
College and offensive cartoons against the Virgin Mary in the student
paper of the University of Virginia. So let's stop this blasphemy
too.
Thank you for your love for Jesus and Mary.
John E. Ritchie
TFP Student Action Director
www.tfp.org/sa
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| User: "Midwinter" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University Of Minnesota |
23 Oct 2006 06:24:28 AM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't obliged to
follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god sacred aren't obliged
to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like it, fair enough: but He's
powerful enough to sort it out without your help.
You have the right to protest, of course - protest all you like. But while
your preferred option is gagging people you don't approve of, I don't think
you'll garner much support.
Besides, I'd have thought that religious types - especially Catholics and
some Muslims, who do seem to love a good indignant protest - would have
realised by now that the more fuss YOU make about something being
'blasphemous' and 'evil', the more popular YOU'RE going to make it. In
some cases, films and books *rely* on this sort of free publicity.
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| User: "BAM" |
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23 Oct 2006 08:04:19 AM |
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"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns98657E52FD6C2CYPMNDEXHBCJOIU@216.196.109.145...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't obliged to
follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god sacred aren't obliged
to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like it, fair enough: but He's
powerful enough to sort it out without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God or face eternal damnation.
You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
BAM
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| User: "Midwinter" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University Of Minnesota |
23 Oct 2006 07:01:50 PM |
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"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
All men are required to worship the one true God or face eternal
damnation. You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Then I welcome eternal damnation. I might not make the rules, but I
certainly get to decide whether to obey them. And I don't consider myself
obliged to obey immoral laws.
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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23 Oct 2006 08:38:09 AM |
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BAM wrote:
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns98657E52FD6C2CYPMNDEXHBCJOIU@216.196.109.145...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't obliged to
follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god sacred aren't obliged
to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like it, fair enough: but He's
powerful enough to sort it out without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God or face eternal damnation.
You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Wow, feel that love.
It's amazing how pitiful and hateful and pathetic the christian
religion is, run along little man, run along and play on the railroad
tracks.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
BAM
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| Title: Re: The Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University Of Minnesota |
23 Oct 2006 09:02:58 AM |
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"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161610689.608883.226930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
BAM wrote:
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns98657E52FD6C2CYPMNDEXHBCJOIU@216.196.109.145...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't obliged to
follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god sacred aren't
obliged
to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like it, fair enough: but He's
powerful enough to sort it out without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God or face eternal
damnation.
You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Wow, feel that love.
It's amazing how pitiful and hateful and pathetic the christian
religion is, run along little man, run along and play on the railroad
tracks.
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil worshipper? I
forget why - maybe you can tell me?
BAM
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| User: "Ghod" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University Of Minnesota |
23 Oct 2006 09:50:40 AM |
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"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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BAM wrote:
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns98657E52FD6C2CYPMNDEXHBCJOIU@216.196.109.145...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't
obliged to
follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god sacred
aren't
obliged
to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like it, fair enough: but
He's
powerful enough to sort it out without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God or face eternal
damnation.
You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Wow, feel that love.
It's amazing how pitiful and hateful and pathetic the christian
religion is, run along little man, run along and play on the
railroad
tracks.
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil worshipper?
I
forget why - maybe you can tell me?
First, explain to us why we should give a flying ***** what _you_
think? So far, you've shown yourself to be ignorant, obnoxious,
hateful, wrong, stupid, and foul-smelling.
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| User: "BAM" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University Of Minnesota |
23 Oct 2006 03:45:12 PM |
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"Ghod" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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BAM wrote:
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns98657E52FD6C2CYPMNDEXHBCJOIU@216.196.109.145...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't
obliged to
follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god sacred
aren't
obliged
to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like it, fair enough: but
He's
powerful enough to sort it out without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God or face eternal
damnation.
You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Wow, feel that love.
It's amazing how pitiful and hateful and pathetic the christian
religion is, run along little man, run along and play on the
railroad
tracks.
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil worshipper?
I
forget why - maybe you can tell me?
First, explain to us why we should give a flying ***** what _you_
think? So far, you've shown yourself to be ignorant, obnoxious,
hateful, wrong, stupid, and foul-smelling.
Because I'm right and you're wrong. That's why.
BAM
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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23 Oct 2006 08:52:52 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:45:12 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
Because I'm right and you're wrong. That's why.
But, since you don't know what you're talking about (the fact that *I*
said it makes it true) means that you're wrong. Or aren't you
intelligent enough to understand that?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Midwinter" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University Of Minnesota |
23 Oct 2006 07:03:03 PM |
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"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil worshipper? I
forget why - maybe you can tell me?
The most obvious reply to this would be "in order to demonstrate the moral
superiority of your position". But since that would involve actually
ACTING like a Christian, instead of just ranting about hellfire and
damnation, I can understand why it might be too much effort.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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24 Oct 2006 05:03:16 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:03:03 -0500, Midwinter
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil worshipper? I
forget why - maybe you can tell me?
The most obvious reply to this would be "in order to demonstrate the moral
superiority of your position". But since that would involve actually
ACTING like a Christian, instead of just ranting about hellfire and
damnation, I can understand why it might be too much effort.
Cue the crickets.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"I have never imputed to Nature a purpose or a goal, or anything that could be under-
stood as anthropomorphic. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can
comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of
humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism."
- 1954 or 1955; quoted in Dukas and Hoffman _Albert Einstein the Human Side_, p. 39
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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23 Oct 2006 09:31:45 AM |
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BAM wrote:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161610689.608883.226930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
BAM wrote:
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns98657E52FD6C2CYPMNDEXHBCJOIU@216.196.109.145...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't obliged to
follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god sacred aren't
obliged
to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like it, fair enough: but He's
powerful enough to sort it out without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God or face eternal
damnation.
You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Wow, feel that love.
It's amazing how pitiful and hateful and pathetic the christian
religion is, run along little man, run along and play on the railroad
tracks.
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil worshipper?
Wonderful. Your stupidity knows no bounds
Lucifer simply means light bringer. I am an atheist, now answer my
fucking point, about how hateful your deathcult is, or *****.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
I
forget why - maybe you can tell me?
BAM
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| User: "BAM" |
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23 Oct 2006 03:44:33 PM |
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"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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BAM wrote:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161610689.608883.226930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
BAM wrote:
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns98657E52FD6C2CYPMNDEXHBCJOIU@216.196.109.145...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't obliged
to
follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god sacred aren't
obliged
to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like it, fair enough: but He's
powerful enough to sort it out without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God or face eternal
damnation.
You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Wow, feel that love.
It's amazing how pitiful and hateful and pathetic the christian
religion is, run along little man, run along and play on the railroad
tracks.
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil worshipper?
Wonderful. Your stupidity knows no bounds
Lucifer simply means light bringer. I am an atheist, now answer my
fucking point, about how hateful your deathcult is, or *****.
You're telling me to do something? This must be another one of your foolish
jokes.
BAM
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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24 Oct 2006 12:26:20 AM |
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BAM wrote:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161613905.142461.224840@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
BAM wrote:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161610689.608883.226930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
BAM wrote:
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns98657E52FD6C2CYPMNDEXHBCJOIU@216.196.109.145...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't obliged
to
follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god sacred aren't
obliged
to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like it, fair enough: but He's
powerful enough to sort it out without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God or face eternal
damnation.
You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Wow, feel that love.
It's amazing how pitiful and hateful and pathetic the christian
religion is, run along little man, run along and play on the railroad
tracks.
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil worshipper?
Wonderful. Your stupidity knows no bounds
Lucifer simply means light bringer. I am an atheist, now answer my
fucking point, about how hateful your deathcult is, or *****.
You're telling me to do something? This must be another one of your foolish
jokes.
BAM
Answer the fucking question or be on record as not being able to defend
your hate
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University Of Minnesota |
24 Oct 2006 05:08:31 PM |
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On 23 Oct 2006 22:26:20 -0700, "Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com>
wrote:
BAM wrote:
You're telling me to do something? This must be another one of your foolish
jokes.
Answer the fucking question or be on record as not being able to defend
your hate
He actually has a choice?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of
themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."
- Bertrand Russell
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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26 Oct 2006 02:26:51 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 23 Oct 2006 22:26:20 -0700, "Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com>
wrote:
BAM wrote:
You're telling me to do something? This must be another one of your foolish
jokes.
Answer the fucking question or be on record as not being able to defend
your hate
He actually has a choice?
Well...it could try and defend it (I doubt he would manage), but it
seems to have slunk away with it's tail between it's legs.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of
themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."
- Bertrand Russell
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "Nevermore" |
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23 Oct 2006 05:33:52 PM |
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In <FQ9%g.36196$vi3.17115@bignews3.bellsouth.net> BAM wrote:
From: "BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.wicca,alt.religion.christian.
roman-catholic,alt.society.liberalism,rec.arts.books Subject: Re: The
Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University Of
Minnesota Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:44:33 -0400 Organization:
BellSouth Internet Group
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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BAM wrote:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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BAM wrote:
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't
obliged to follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god
sacred aren't obliged to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like
it, fair enough: but He's powerful enough to sort it out
without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God or face eternal
damnation.
You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Wow, feel that love.
It's amazing how pitiful and hateful and pathetic the christian
religion is, run along little man, run along and play on the
railroad tracks.
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil worshipper?
Wonderful. Your stupidity knows no bounds
Lucifer simply means light bringer. I am an atheist, now answer my
fucking point, about how hateful your deathcult is, or *****.
You're telling me to do something? This must be another one of your
foolish jokes.
BAM
People who are afraid of plays and literature (or worse yet, who worship
ancient allegorical literature as literal truth) ARE foolish jokes.
Nevermore (Sympathy for the Devil? Is that what you're trying to say)
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23 Oct 2006 07:03:19 PM |
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"Nevermore" <burned@thestake.net> wrote in message
news:20061023183352736-0400@news1.news.adelphia.net...
In <FQ9%g.36196$vi3.17115@bignews3.bellsouth.net> BAM wrote:
From: "BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.wicca,alt.religion.christian.
roman-catholic,alt.society.liberalism,rec.arts.books Subject: Re: The
Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University Of
Minnesota Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:44:33 -0400 Organization:
BellSouth Internet Group
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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BAM wrote:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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BAM wrote:
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns98657E52FD6C2CYPMNDEXHBCJOIU@216.196.109.145...
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't
obliged to follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god
sacred aren't obliged to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like
it, fair enough: but He's powerful enough to sort it out
without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God or face eternal
damnation.
You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Wow, feel that love.
It's amazing how pitiful and hateful and pathetic the christian
religion is, run along little man, run along and play on the
railroad tracks.
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil worshipper?
Wonderful. Your stupidity knows no bounds
Lucifer simply means light bringer. I am an atheist, now answer my
fucking point, about how hateful your deathcult is, or *****.
You're telling me to do something? This must be another one of your
foolish jokes.
BAM
People who are afraid of plays and literature (or worse yet, who worship
ancient allegorical literature as literal truth) ARE foolish jokes.
Thanks - I'll remember that generalization - so brilliant.
BAM
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23 Oct 2006 07:50:40 PM |
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In <_Kc%g.3585$Bs.3352@bignews8.bellsouth.net> BAM wrote:
From: "BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.wicca,alt.religion.christian.
roman-catholic,alt.society.liberalism,rec.arts.books Subject: Re: The
Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University Of
Minnesota Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:03:19 -0400 Organization:
BellSouth Internet Group
"Nevermore" <burned@thestake.net> wrote in message
news:20061023183352736-0400@news1.news.adelphia.net...
In <FQ9%g.36196$vi3.17115@bignews3.bellsouth.net> BAM wrote:
From: "BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.wicca,alt.religion.christian.
roman-catholic,alt.society.liberalism,rec.arts.books Subject: Re:
The Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University
Of Minnesota Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:44:33 -0400 Organization:
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"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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BAM wrote:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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BAM wrote:
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't
obliged to follow His laws. Those who don't consider your
god sacred aren't obliged to treat Him as such. If He
doesn't like it, fair enough: but He's powerful enough to
sort it out without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God or face
eternal damnation. You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Wow, feel that love.
It's amazing how pitiful and hateful and pathetic the christian
religion is, run along little man, run along and play on the
railroad tracks.
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil
worshipper?
Wonderful. Your stupidity knows no bounds
Lucifer simply means light bringer. I am an atheist, now answer my
fucking point, about how hateful your deathcult is, or *****.
You're telling me to do something? This must be another one of your
foolish jokes.
BAM
People who are afraid of plays and literature (or worse yet, who
worship ancient allegorical literature as literal truth) ARE foolish
jokes.
Thanks - I'll remember that generalization - so brilliant.
You're using the tautology of "generalization" as a retort to a specific
statement and yet you're willing to state that "blasphemy" (whatever the
Hells that is) is not academic freedom? So stupid.
Nevermore
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| User: "John W. Kennedy" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The UniversityOf Minnesota |
23 Oct 2006 11:53:17 AM |
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BAM wrote:
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil worshipper? I
forget why - maybe you can tell me?
Well, yes. As long as he remains in office, we have to be concerned with
Bush's opinions. Who knows what he'll come up with next?
--
John W. Kennedy
"The blind rulers of Logres
Nourished the land on a fallacy of rational virtue."
-- Charles Williams. "Taliessin through Logres: Prelude"
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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23 Oct 2006 11:38:22 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:02:58 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil worshipper? I
forget why - maybe you can tell me?
We should be interested in the opinion of someone who still believes
in Santa?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is
a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the
crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due
to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious
indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility
corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of
nature and of our own being."
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr., Sept. 28, 1949, from article by
Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
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| User: "BAM" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University Of Minnesota |
23 Oct 2006 03:45:54 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:02:58 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil worshipper? I
forget why - maybe you can tell me?
We should be interested in the opinion of someone who still believes
in Santa?
Yes you should. Our world is much larger than yours.
BAM
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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23 Oct 2006 07:21:00 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:45:54 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:02:58 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
And we should be interested in the sympathies of a devil worshipper? I
forget why - maybe you can tell me?
We should be interested in the opinion of someone who still believes
in Santa?
Yes you should. Our world is much larger than yours.
Fallacy of Argumentum ad numeram.
The world of people who believed that the world was flat once included
100% of the human species. Guess what?
THEY WARE *ALL* WRONG!
If 6 billion people believe in a fantasy, it's still a fantasy.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"We should do unto others as we would want them to do unto us. If I were an unborn
fetus I would want others to use force to protect me, therefore using force against
abortionists is *justifiable homocide*."
- "Pro-Life" doctor killer and corpse Paul Hill
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| User: "raven1" |
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23 Oct 2006 03:46:13 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:04:19 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't obliged to
follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god sacred aren't obliged
to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like it, fair enough: but He's
powerful enough to sort it out without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God
Why would a God desire worship, much less require it?
or face eternal damnation.
The concept of eternal damnation would be enough in itself to abhor
the Biblical God as a monster, rather than worship it, if it existed.
You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Thankfully, neither does your non-existent sky pixie.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "BAM" |
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23 Oct 2006 07:04:51 PM |
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:04:19 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't obliged to
follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god sacred aren't
obliged
to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like it, fair enough: but He's
powerful enough to sort it out without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God
Why would a God desire worship, much less require it?
That's not for you to know.
or face eternal damnation.
The concept of eternal damnation would be enough in itself to abhor
the Biblical God as a monster, rather than worship it, if it existed.
This is light entertainment. You're going to Hell - get serious.
You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Thankfully, neither does your non-existent sky pixie.
You're dreamin'.
BAM
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| User: "Midwinter" |
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24 Oct 2006 05:08:50 AM |
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"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
That's not for you to know.
This is light entertainment. You're going to Hell - get serious.
You're dreamin'.
You really don't seem to have much about you, do you? These aren't smart
responses, 'BAM'. These are weak responses - almost cowardly. But, like
so many other self-appointed preachers, it seems you can only rant and
bleat and try to act all superior, and you think that makes you a godly
authority.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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24 Oct 2006 05:06:05 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:08:50 -0500, Midwinter
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
"BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
That's not for you to know.
This is light entertainment. You're going to Hell - get serious.
You're dreamin'.
You really don't seem to have much about you, do you? These aren't smart
responses, 'BAM'. These are weak responses - almost cowardly. But, like
so many other self-appointed preachers, it seems you can only rant and
bleat and try to act all superior, and you think that makes you a godly
authority.
He's used to preaching to the converted, which is all most preachers
are capable of. When faced with real responses, the best he can do is
grope for an answer, because HIS preacher never answered questions
like that for him - and all he knows is what he's been fed.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"The doctrine that the earth is neither the center of the universe nor immovable, but
moves even with a daily rotation, is absurd, and both philosophically and theologically
false, and at the least an error of faith."
- Catholic Church's decision against Galileo Galilei
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| User: "Nevermore" |
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23 Oct 2006 07:44:46 PM |
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In <qMc%g.3601$Bs.748@bignews8.bellsouth.net> BAM wrote:
From: "BAM" <mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.wicca,alt.religion.christian.
roman-catholic,alt.society.liberalism,rec.arts.books Subject: Re: The
Pope and the Witch: Protest Blasphemous Play At The University Of
Minnesota Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:04:51 -0400 Organization:
BellSouth Internet Group
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:04:19 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't obliged
to follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god sacred
aren't obliged to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like it, fair
enough: but He's powerful enough to sort it out without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God
Why would a God desire worship, much less require it?
That's not for you to know.
Actually, if you have a brain, that's an easy one to figure out.
or face eternal damnation.
The concept of eternal damnation would be enough in itself to abhor
the Biblical God as a monster, rather than worship it, if it existed.
This is light entertainment. You're going to Hell - get serious.
Piffle. My cats have been there. Get a life.
You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Thankfully, neither does your non-existent sky pixie.
You're dreamin'.
It's kind of like walking on water.
Nevermore
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24 Oct 2006 12:11:39 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:04:51 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:04:19 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
By my book, blasphemy is not academic freedom!
Sorry, but it is. Those who don't worship your god aren't obliged to
follow His laws. Those who don't consider your god sacred aren't
obliged
to treat Him as such. If He doesn't like it, fair enough: but He's
powerful enough to sort it out without your help.
All men are required to worship the one true God
Why would a God desire worship, much less require it?
That's not for you to know.
In other words, you have no answer, because even you have to realize
deep down that the idea of an omniscient, omnipotent being desiring
worship is absurd.
or face eternal damnation.
The concept of eternal damnation would be enough in itself to abhor
the Biblical God as a monster, rather than worship it, if it existed.
This is light entertainment. You're going to Hell - get serious.
I am totally serious. If eternal damnation exists, then God is a
monster worthy of execration, not adoration.
You don't make the rules, pipsqueak.
Thankfully, neither does your non-existent sky pixie.
You're dreamin'.
You're hallucinating.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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23 Oct 2006 11:37:25 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:04:19 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
All men are required to worship the one true God or face eternal damnation.
Required by whom?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"The United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion"
- Treaty of Tripoli, 1797, ratified by Congress
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| User: "BAM" |
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23 Oct 2006 03:46:17 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:04:19 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
All men are required to worship the one true God or face eternal
damnation.
Required by whom?
Three guesses.
BAM
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