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"Budikka666" |
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02 Feb 2005 11:43:00 PM |
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The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/02/02/pope.health/index.html
passionatelt discusses the Pope's health. Who gives a damn about the
thousands of St. Stephen's Tsunami victims that are homeless, hungry
and facing disease, when this god-wannabe can be prayed for instead?
Now about that praying. Do these people teally think they can change
this god's perfect plan with a selfish prayer? Why would someone even
have to pray? God is supposed to know what we want before we ask, so
what's with the asking? Does this maniacal god demand that we *beg*
before he'll give us something? Prayer doesn't work anyway - it's just
another in a long, long line of Bible myths.
Now about the Pope's lack of faith. Didn't the myth called Jesus tell
his disciples (according to the gospel liars) that this god would grant
whatever they asked for in his name? So why was it that the Pope got a
flu shot? One reason, and one reason only! It's the very same reason
that people the world over are praying for this punk right now. They
all of them have zero faith in this god of theirs.
Budikka
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
04 Feb 2005 11:22:00 AM |
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On 2 Feb 2005 15:43:00 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Now about that praying. Do these people teally think they can change
this god's perfect plan with a selfish prayer?
I'll give you a clue, plabud. John 13:34.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
05 Feb 2005 04:20:19 AM |
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duke wrote:
On 2 Feb 2005 15:43:00 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:
Now about that praying. Do these people teally think they can
change
this god's perfect plan with a selfish prayer?
I'll give you a clue, plabud. John 13:34.
Yeah, well if you followed that one, you wouldn't be inventing and
perpetuating lies about me on Usenet, would you now, you pathetic
hypocrite.
And once again your cowardice is noted. Your straw man here is a Bible
quote that has nothing whatsoever to do with the absolute fact that
prayer is a proven failure and an illogical premise to begin with.
Budikka
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
05 Feb 2005 04:31:38 PM |
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On 4 Feb 2005 20:20:19 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
I'll give you a clue, plabud. John 13:34.
Yeah, well if you followed that one, you wouldn't be inventing and
perpetuating lies about me on Usenet, would you now, you pathetic
hypocrite.
Yet, I'm not lying about you on the ng, plabud.
And once again your cowardice is noted. Your straw man here is a Bible
quote that has nothing whatsoever to do with the absolute fact that
prayer is a proven failure and an illogical premise to begin with.
Swoosh - right past your left ear.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
06 Feb 2005 11:31:07 AM |
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PUKE LIED:
Yet, I'm not lying about you on the ng
16 lies are documented here: http://tinyurl.com/5zlzx
You were invited to rebut them and **YOU RAN AWAY** like you always do
when I challenge you.
This proves that when you say you never lie on the ng, you're lying.
You're a proven liar, a proven coward and a proven hypocrite, as well
as a homophobe and a misogynist.
Swoosh - right past your left ear.
Swoosh, my foot right in your stupid flabby *****.
Budikka
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| User: "Tukla Ratte" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
07 Feb 2005 08:52:33 PM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
PUKE LIED:
< snip >
Swoosh - right past your left ear.
Swoosh, my foot right in your stupid flabby *****.
Not again, Budikka! <sigh> Oh, well. I'll go get the Jaws of Life so
we can get your foot out of there.
--
Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
07 Feb 2005 11:40:28 PM |
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:52:33 -0600, Tukla Ratte <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote:
Budikka666 wrote:
PUKE LIED:
< snip >
Swoosh - right past your left ear.
Swoosh, my foot right in your stupid flabby *****.
Not again, Budikka! <sigh> Oh, well. I'll go get the Jaws of Life so
we can get your foot out of there.
Don't give the kid hope, tr.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
08 Feb 2005 11:48:41 PM |
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PUKE LIED:
Don't give the kid hope, tr.
This from the Internet's biggest coward who has run from over one
hundred threads in the last year (two-a-week) in which I've challenged
you, who never supports a thing he claims, and has fifty unanswered
questions and 16 documented lies he has been running from for months?
You seriously think you're in a position to hand out advice, you lying
sack of *****?
Budikka
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
08 Feb 2005 11:55:53 PM |
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In article <1107906521.843482.105880@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> writes:
PUKE LIED:
Don't give the kid hope, tr.
This from the Internet's biggest coward who has run from over one
hundred threads in the last year (two-a-week) in which I've challenged
you, who never supports a thing he claims, and has fifty unanswered
questions and 16 documented lies he has been running from for months?
You seriously think you're in a position to hand out advice, you lying
sack of *****?
Perhaps it's time for the Duke FUQ? You know, "Frequently
Unanswered Questions"?
-- cary
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
09 Feb 2005 09:42:44 PM |
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
Perhaps it's time for the Duke FUQ? You know, "Frequently
Unanswered Questions"?
That's actually a good idea! We should run it by the keeper O' the
a.a. FAQ
Budikka
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| User: "stoney" |
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10 Feb 2005 08:04:14 PM |
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:55:53 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <1107906521.843482.105880@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> writes:
PUKE LIED:
Don't give the kid hope, tr.
This from the Internet's biggest coward who has run from over one
hundred threads in the last year (two-a-week) in which I've challenged
you, who never supports a thing he claims, and has fifty unanswered
questions and 16 documented lies he has been running from for months?
You seriously think you're in a position to hand out advice, you lying
sack of *****?
Perhaps it's time for the Duke FUQ? You know, "Frequently
Unanswered Questions"?
Puke's FUQ'd up in more ways than one.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
07 Feb 2005 09:13:34 PM |
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Tukla Ratte wrote:
Budikka666 wrote:
PUKE LIED:
< snip >
Swoosh - right past your left ear.
Swoosh, my foot right in your stupid flabby *****.
Not again, Budikka! <sigh> Oh, well. I'll go get the Jaws of Life
so
we can get your foot out of there.
LoL!
B.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
07 Feb 2005 11:41:24 PM |
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On 7 Feb 2005 13:13:34 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Tukla Ratte wrote:
Budikka666 wrote:
PUKE LIED:
< snip >
Swoosh - right past your left ear.
Swoosh, my foot right in your stupid flabby *****.
Not again, Budikka! <sigh> Oh, well. I'll go get the Jaws of Life
so
we can get your foot out of there.
LoL!
Very well thought out, plagiabud.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
08 Feb 2005 11:46:46 PM |
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PUKE LIED:
Very well thought out, plagiabud.
Any time you want to support your fucking worthless invention that I'm
a plagiarist, I'll be happy to whip your worthless lying piece of *****
***** in a thread dedicated to the topic. Dare you stand behind your
accusation or are you going to run under the nearest rock like you
usually do, you piece of pigshit?
Budikka
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| User: "old hoodoo" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
03 Feb 2005 12:56:31 AM |
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Reality tends to take the shine off the old crown, doesn't it? I have to
deal with a Catholic family every day, married into it, was annulled out
of it, but they still like me around because I have always done things
for the family and my kids binds us. However the inconsistencies in a
Catholic family are absolutely farcical, but like the Emperor's New
Clothes they will not see the nakedness.
Every day you see the things that prove that the Pope and his Bishops
have no more power than a protestant TV evangelist or a Muslim Imam.
Yet people choose to worship and follow and hang on the Pope's every
pampered breath. Jesus said it best (according to King Jame's I think),
...."none are so blind as they who will not see". Jesus's mistake was
that caught up in his "new" interpretation of religion, and ridiculed,
punished, and vilified, he saw himself and his followers as the knowig
minority and the the rest of the unbelieving world as blind. He did
not realize that once his religion took hold and became the majority
view, that the blind would be his followers.
It was a basic error in human nature. Jesus lived in a time awash in
ignorance and thought he was bringing light...but all he brought was
another bucket of ignorance.
Budikka666 wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/02/02/pope.health/index.html
passionatelt discusses the Pope's health. Who gives a damn about the
thousands of St. Stephen's Tsunami victims that are homeless, hungry
and facing disease, when this god-wannabe can be prayed for instead?
Now about that praying. Do these people teally think they can change
this god's perfect plan with a selfish prayer? Why would someone even
have to pray? God is supposed to know what we want before we ask, so
what's with the asking? Does this maniacal god demand that we *beg*
before he'll give us something? Prayer doesn't work anyway - it's just
another in a long, long line of Bible myths.
Now about the Pope's lack of faith. Didn't the myth called Jesus tell
his disciples (according to the gospel liars) that this god would grant
whatever they asked for in his name? So why was it that the Pope got a
flu shot? One reason, and one reason only! It's the very same reason
that people the world over are praying for this punk right now. They
all of them have zero faith in this god of theirs.
Budikka
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
03 Feb 2005 05:50:34 AM |
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:56:31 -0600, old hoodoo
<alflags@cox-internet.com> said in alt.atheism:
Jesus lived
Really?
--
"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education and social
ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he
had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
03 Feb 2005 10:44:46 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 05:50:34 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
Jesus lived
Really?
Absolutely. Even bud can't fake her words thru that one.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
06 Feb 2005 11:36:34 AM |
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PUKE LIED:
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 05:50:34 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
Jesus lived
Really?
Absolutely. Even bud can't fake her words thru that one.
You were challenged to provide evidence for the existence of Jesus
almost a year ago. You couldn't do it. To cover your appalling
impotence, you came up with five ***** "evidences" for the existence
of God, which I told you were not evidence and rebutted them at least
three times in three different ways.
After repeatedly lying about this "evidence", you finally admitted the
truth - that these were not five evidences but your own blind beliefs!
In short, you've been given every opportunity to support your claims
regarding your mythical worthless god and your useless mythical Jesus,
and every time you've been asked, you've run away like a limp Peter at
the crucifixion. You failed. There is no evidence. You lose. Duck
***** will out.
Swoosh. My foot right in your sorry, stupid flabby ***** again. You
keep asking to be humiliated and I'm be happy to oblige.
Budikka
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: The Pope's Appalling Lack of Faith |
06 Feb 2005 02:39:27 PM |
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On 6 Feb 2005 03:36:34 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Jesus lived
Really?
Absolutely. Even bud can't fake her words thru that one.
You were challenged to provide evidence for the existence of Jesus
almost a year ago. You couldn't do it.
Yet I did, and you were unable to refute it. How easy you forget - especially
when it's in your best interest.
After repeatedly lying about this "evidence", you finally admitted the
truth - that these were not five evidences but your own blind beliefs!
Say what? Hey, put the bottle down, bud.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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12 Feb 2005 12:23:35 AM |
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duke wrote:
You were challenged to provide evidence for the existence of Jesus
almost a year ago. You couldn't do it.
Yet I did, and you were unable to refute it.
No, what you provided was what you claimed was 5 evidences of God, not
of Jesus, and you later admitted it wasn't even evidence, but your own
personal blind belief. So that's another of your lies. I'll add it to
the list.
How easy you forget - especially
when it's in your best interest.
This from the coward who has run away from over 100 threads in which
I;ve challenged him. Another lie, another exmaple of hypocrisy and
cowardice. No surprises there. Duck ***** will out.
Budikka
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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03 Feb 2005 04:40:05 PM |
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old hoodoo wrote:
Reality tends to take the shine off the old crown, doesn't it? I have
to
deal with a Catholic family every day, married into it, was annulled
out
of it, but they still like me around because I have always done
things
for the family and my kids binds us. However the inconsistencies in
a
Catholic family are absolutely farcical, but like the Emperor's New
Clothes they will not see the nakedness.
Every day you see the things that prove that the Pope and his Bishops
have no more power than a protestant TV evangelist or a Muslim Imam.
Yet people choose to worship and follow and hang on the Pope's every
pampered breath. Jesus said it best (according to King Jame's I
think),
..."none are so blind as they who will not see". Jesus's mistake was
that caught up in his "new" interpretation of religion, and
ridiculed,
punished, and vilified, he saw himself and his followers as the
knowig
minority and the the rest of the unbelieving world as blind. He did
not realize that once his religion took hold and became the majority
view, that the blind would be his followers.
It was a basic error in human nature. Jesus lived in a time awash in
ignorance and thought he was bringing light...but all he brought was
another bucket of ignorance.
I like that phrase! I'm sorry you still have to deal with that crap.
Do you believe that Jesus lived, as Al questions, or was that just a
figure of speech? I don't believe there ever was a Jesus to begin
with. I've never seen any evdence for one and the Bible stories make
no sense.
Budikka
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07 Feb 2005 10:01:40 PM |
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I like that phrase! I'm sorry you still have to deal with that crap.
Do you believe that Jesus lived, as Al questions, or was that just a
figure of speech? I don't believe there ever was a Jesus to begin
with. I've never seen any evdence for one and the Bible stories make
no sense.
My personal opinion is that Jesus is a combination of real person(s),
legends and writer's fiction.
Christianity appeared almost suddenly, during a change from a Republic
to Empire. Any movement which appeared in a so quick time must have a
founder. There is nothing unusual that this founder was called Jesus,
or that Jesus was Kumran's Big Teacher of Justice.
But, later he was deified, maybe under influences of Heraclus myths
(son of god capable raising from death), and miracles, angels and
talking with God are added to the story.
It is quite common that real historical persons are deified. Sidartha
Gothama Budha was atheist philosopher, and his followers later
proclaimed him as god. Something that he would never like.
Many Roman Ceasars, and Egyptian Pharaons were considered as gods too,
but it is not reason to tell that they did not exist.
Budikka
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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08 Feb 2005 02:22:26 AM |
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On 7 Feb 2005 14:01:40 -0800, said in
alt.atheism:
Christianity appeared almost suddenly, during a change from a Republic
to Empire. Any movement which appeared in a so quick time must have a
founder. There is nothing unusual that this founder was called Jesus
Nor would it have been unusual if the founder had been called "Saul of
Tarsus". Remember, well into the 2nd century there was no man-god
Jesus - Saul's Jesus was a spirit creature. The stories about what a
man did date to long after Saul's death. By the ending of the 1st
century there was no way to tell Christian Jews from any other sect of
Jew. There was no formal writing of "Christianity" yet.
--
"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in horror. 'But what
shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A ferocious animal has sucked the
blood of my relatives. I tell you to rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what
you shall put in its place?" - Voltaire
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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04 Feb 2005 12:17:10 AM |
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On 3 Feb 2005 08:40:05 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
said in alt.atheism:
I like that phrase! I'm sorry you still have to deal with that crap.
Do you believe that Jesus lived, as Al questions, or was that just a
figure of speech? I don't believe there ever was a Jesus to begin
with. I've never seen any evdence for one
Even aside from the claims of miracles, I've seen a lot of evidence
that the Jesus described in the bible never lived.
--
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid
consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and
ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who
works on the basis of reward and punishment. "
- Letter to M. Berkowitz, October 25, 1950; Einstein Archive 59-215
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